Wangchung said:

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BearFan33 said:

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maybe part of dominion settlement?


No reason was given for letting their top show go.

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100% to do with the settlement. He cost the network nearly $800mm.

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Even Tucker couldn't do that all by himself.

Fox cost themselves $800M and if there's any justice Smartmatic & the others they defamed will put them out of business. Them and their mouthpieces.

I can't count the number of "voter fraud" posts I read on this site. You guys repeated these talking points ad nauseam and some of you will keep doing it.

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Funny.... I don't recall you ever calling for other news outlets to go out of business when they have defamed countless others....

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………And completely 100% fabricated so called "news" like "Russia, Russia, Russia" as just one example that went on for years and needlessly ruined who knows how many lives.

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Russia was a fabrication
So is"stolen election " narrative

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Russia 100% influenced the 2016 election, but they had absolutely no care who won the election. All the cares about was sowing discord in our electorate. Then we have the bogeyman of one person won because of this for 4 years. Then we have the bogeyman of cheating the next go round. Lefties and righties bought this **** hook line and sinker and will never let it go. Russian disinformation was involved, but it wasn't to favor a particular candidate. It was to make us act like a bunch of dogs fighting over the remnants of a tbone.

It is absolutely viable that Biden got more votes than Obama, because trump also got more votes than Obama. The country was 30mm people larger than the 2008 election, and voter turnout was much higher. Not everyone was there to support the pudding pop master, millions were there to vote against the fake haired, bumbling idiot on the other (same) side. It's absolutely hilarious watching the Trumpers and the lefties tear at each other like they're any different.

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You forgot the part where the Clinton campaign fabricated the Russian collusion hoax.

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I didn't. If you don't think for a second there were a **** ton of disinfo campaigns initiated by Russia for both the Clinton and Trump campaigns (unwanted by the way) then I don't know what to tell you.

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trey3216 said:

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Johnny Bear said:

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cowboycwr said:

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J.B.Katz said:

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trey3216 said:

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maybe part of dominion settlement?


No reason was given for letting their top show go.

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100% to do with the settlement. He cost the network nearly $800mm.

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Even Tucker couldn't do that all by himself.

Fox cost themselves $800M and if there's any justice Smartmatic & the others they defamed will put them out of business. Them and their mouthpieces.

I can't count the number of "voter fraud" posts I read on this site. You guys repeated these talking points ad nauseam and some of you will keep doing it.

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Funny.... I don't recall you ever calling for other news outlets to go out of business when they have defamed countless others....

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………And completely 100% fabricated so called "news" like "Russia, Russia, Russia" as just one example that went on for years and needlessly ruined who knows how many lives.

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Russia was a fabrication
So is"stolen election " narrative

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Russia 100% influenced the 2016 election, but they had absolutely no care who won the election. All the cares about was sowing discord in our electorate. Then we have the bogeyman of one person won because of this for 4 years. Then we have the bogeyman of cheating the next go round. Lefties and righties bought this **** hook line and sinker and will never let it go. Russian disinformation was involved, but it wasn't to favor a particular candidate. It was to make us act like a bunch of dogs fighting over the remnants of a tbone.

It is absolutely viable that Biden got more votes than Obama, because trump also got more votes than Obama. The country was 30mm people larger than the 2008 election, and voter turnout was much higher. Not everyone was there to support the pudding pop master, millions were there to vote against the fake haired, bumbling idiot on the other (same) side. It's absolutely hilarious watching the Trumpers and the lefties tear at each other like they're any different.

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You forgot the part where the Clinton campaign fabricated the Russian collusion hoax.

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I didn't. If you don't think for a second there were a **** ton of disinfo campaigns initiated by Russia for both the Clinton and Trump campaigns (unwanted by the way) then I don't know what to tell you.

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There was a specific disinformation campaign created specifically by the Clinton campaign that interfered not only with the election but Trump's entire four year term.

Fox News audience shifting from Fox to News max … under the able leadership of tucker Carlson 😁

pic.twitter.com/3hAvIsslIe

— parody of sureshB(costumes for keenu in john Wick) (@sureshbtweets) April 24, 2023

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Fox is already a uniparty network and now they're going to turn into a full blown democrat shill network along with the rest of MSM.

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Even worse.

A full blown Bush-McCain type Republican network.

Pro-War, Pro-Immigration, Pro-Corporate Business

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As opposed to anti immigration, anti business? What democrats seek to do to the economy needs to be countered. And imagine living in America and being against immigration. You must be Native American, only reasonable explanation.

Carlson is a duplicitous guy as shown by the courts. Nobody should be trusting him. Fox can't afford to alienate Trump lovers, thats the reason he is leaving. They could care less about him brainwashing conservatives on matters he doesn't care for himself.

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Being a slave to corporate America/Wall St is of course not a conservative value at all.

"The Republican orthodox position is that corporations reign supreme, should be showered with special privileges, and should never be held accountable for intervening in the political process. That's Republican policy in a nutshell"

And yes I assume native tribes do wish they could have stopped mass immigration.

Letting your country be conquered by foreign tribes is also not a conservative value.

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Tucker Carlson Out at Fox News

Fox News' top-performing host Tucker Carlson is leaving the network after appearing in the prime-time slot since November 2016.

"Fox News Media and Tucker Carlson have agreed to part ways. We thank him for his service to the network as a host and prior to that as a contributor," the company wrote

The sudden departure did not leave Carlson time to host a final farewell episode of his wildly successful program Tucker Carlson Tonight. His last episode was broadcast on Friday, April 21, the network said.

An interim show featuring a rotating cast of Fox News personalities will fill the 8 p.m. hour until a new host is named.

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This Right Wing extreme Trumpism is not going to end well for the GOP. They are putting out a lot of rhetoric with very little provable fact to back it up. FOX, the Right Wing Bastion for conservative thought is cutting ties with everyone that had anything to do with pushing the "election was stolen" narrative and Trump. If this doesn't send a message that it is a losing horse, I don't know what will short of Trump being convicted.

By the way, Lemon is also out at CNN.

Maybe we are starting to move back to the middle. Maybe some sanity is coming back.

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Fox is already a uniparty network and now they're going to turn into a full blown democrat shill network along with the rest of MSM.

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Even worse.

A full blown Bush-McCain type Republican network.

Pro-War, Pro-Immigration, Pro-Corporate Business

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As opposed to anti immigration, anti business? What democrats seek to do to the economy needs to be countered. And imagine living in America and being against immigration. You must be Native American, only reasonable explanation.

Carlson is a duplicitous guy as shown by the courts. Nobody should be trusting him. Fox can't afford to alienate Trump lovers, thats the reason he is leaving. They could care less about him brainwashing conservatives on matters he doesn't care for himself.

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Being a slave to corporate America/Wall St is of course not a conservative value at all.

"The Republican orthodox position is that corporations reign supreme, should be showered with special privileges, and should never be held accountable for intervening in the political process. That's Republican policy in a nutshell"

And yes I assume native tribes do wish they could have stopped mass immigration.

Letting your country be conquered by foreign tribes is also not a conservative value.

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Weak societies lose. Strong societies get weak and lose, or are beaten by a stronger society. It's the history of the world.

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This just in. Don Lemon fired from CNN. I am sure FoxNews has already offered him a multi-year guest contributor contract.

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DON LEMON ALSO OUT AT CNN https://t.co/1ncQq4ekpi

— Christian Datoc (@TocRadio) April 24, 2023

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CNN is hoping to slide this story under the powerful tailwinds of Tucker Carlson's firing by Fox.

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Young Turks claim that CNN has wanted Lemon gone for a while.

One of my favorite pastimes is pointing out when@cenkuygur and @AnaKasparian correctly predict something. They had this to say after Don Lemon got in trouble for saying Nikki Haley was not in her prime 2 months ago. pic.twitter.com/JhvJUZ2h65

— Dave (@HipHipKilo) April 24, 2023

Both of them are half wit, histrionic, douchbag trolls. Today was a big win for journalism in general.

Apparently, there's only so far down the loony tube you can go.

Damn good time to bring Bill O'Reilly back to Fox.

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J.B.Katz said:

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trey3216 said:

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BearFan33 said:

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maybe part of dominion settlement?


No reason was given for letting their top show go.

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100% to do with the settlement. He cost the network nearly $800mm.

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Even Tucker couldn't do that all by himself.

Fox cost themselves $800M and if there's any justice Smartmatic & the others they defamed will put them out of business. Them and their mouthpieces.

I can't count the number of "voter fraud" posts I read on this site. You guys repeated these talking points ad nauseam and some of you will keep doing it.

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Barack Obama - 69 million votes
Joe Biden - 81 million votes

Ummmm.............No. Did not happen. The Biden campaign couldn't attract flies.

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1. There were 20+ million more registered voters in the country.
2. Millions of "Biden" votes were really just anti-Trump votes.

Watch your back Jesse. They are coming for you next.

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Watch your back Jesse. They are coming for you next.

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Didn't know he lied too

Hadn't noticed

TUCKER CARLSON SENIOR PRODUCER BULLIED FORMER FOX PRODUCER ABBY GROSSBERG WITH ANTI SEMITIC COMMENTS WHICH CAUSED CARLSON’S DISMISSAL FROM FOX - LA TIMES

— The_Real_Fly (@The_Real_Fly) April 24, 2023

If we just let Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries decide what to say, then everything will be ok.

Here's Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer on CNN explaining why he thinks Washington, D.C. can and should dictate to Fox News and Tucker Carlson what they can and cannot say:

"We not only have a right to tell Rupert Murdoch and Fox what to do, but an obligation." pic.twitter.com/FvipIN9Yib

— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) April 24, 2023

Porteroso said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Fox is already a uniparty network and now they're going to turn into a full blown democrat shill network along with the rest of MSM.

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Even worse.

A full blown Bush-McCain type Republican network.

Pro-War, Pro-Immigration, Pro-Corporate Business

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As opposed to anti immigration, anti business? What democrats seek to do to the economy needs to be countered. And imagine living in America and being against immigration. You must be Native American, only reasonable explanation.

Carlson is a duplicitous guy as shown by the courts. Nobody should be trusting him. Fox can't afford to alienate Trump lovers, thats the reason he is leaving. They could care less about him brainwashing conservatives on matters he doesn't care for himself.

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Whether Fox goes or Fox stays, I don't really give a s h I t!!! What you and your ilk need to realize is that us conservatives are not going anywhere. Should you people pick Biden and Harris , strap your seatbelt on. Should you people decide a Memory Care patient should not be running the country, I am sure we will find someone to lead us. All up to you Dems at this point. A new generation? Just a little bit of sanity and cognitive functionality? We shall see. I don't want a Biden, Harris, Obama, Clinton, or Trump on the ballot. ENOUGH!!!!

I was never a huge fan of Tucker. His act of always looking mad and angry is annoying.

With that said, that is a huge loss for Fox and their ratings will take a beating. Tucker will land in a better gig where he can control the production. Probably do what Megan Kelly is doing.

Fox news has just called Arizona for Biden in the 2024 election.

MT_Bear said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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J.B.Katz said:

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trey3216 said:

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BearFan33 said:

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maybe part of dominion settlement?


No reason was given for letting their top show go.

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100% to do with the settlement. He cost the network nearly $800mm.

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Even Tucker couldn't do that all by himself.

Fox cost themselves $800M and if there's any justice Smartmatic & the others they defamed will put them out of business. Them and their mouthpieces.

I can't count the number of "voter fraud" posts I read on this site. You guys repeated these talking points ad nauseam and some of you will keep doing it.

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Barack Obama - 69 million votes
Joe Biden - 81 million votes

Ummmm.............No. Did not happen. The Biden campaign couldn't attract flies.

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1. There were 20+ million more registered voters in the country.
2. Millions of "Biden" votes were really just anti-Trump votes.

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You got it. It will be 40 million I'd he wins the nomination. The guy needs to go away.

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Fox news has just called Arizona for Biden in the 2024 election.

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They were right then, it happened, it is a fact.

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BearFan33 said:

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Fox news has just called Arizona for Biden in the 2024 election.

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They were right then, it happened, it is a fact.

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I don't think its appropriate on this thread to debate if that call was too early and/or correct. But the sarcastic comment was made to symbolize a lurch to the left made by fox news that continues to this day.

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Both of them are half wit, histrionic, douchbag trolls. Today was a big win for journalism in general.

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Very bad take. He speaks for a majority of Americans. Herewith, the best 6 minutes you will spend this month. Hilarious, and absolutely spot on.

Tucker Carlson’s speech over the weekend was powerful. Too powerful apparently. pic.twitter.com/sxncP26Tda

— TexasLindsay™ (@TexasLindsay_) April 24, 2023

J.B.Katz said:

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ATL Bear said:

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J.B.Katz said:

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trey3216 said:

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BearFan33 said:

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maybe part of dominion settlement?


No reason was given for letting their top show go.

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100% to do with the settlement. He cost the network nearly $800mm.

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Even Tucker couldn't do that all by himself.

Fox cost themselves $800M and if there's any justice Smartmatic & the others they defamed will put them out of business. Them and their mouthpieces.

I can't count the number of "voter fraud" posts I read on this site. You guys repeated these talking points ad nauseam and some of you will keep doing it.

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The irregularities are real. They just went after the machines, which were not the factor they claimed, and a private company with giant government contracts at stake went after them hard. The main claim is that the machines "switched votes". That has nothing to do with open ended absentee balloting, vote allowance for unmatched signatures, double running ballots, or unverified voter roll data.

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/apr/05/heritage-foundation-election-voting-rights-republican-states

Three of the most prominent rightwing groups that spread election denial lies and advocate for restrictions on voting rights in the US have joined forces in a secret attempt to woo top election officials in Republican-controlled states.

Led by the Washington-based conservative thinktank the Heritage Foundation, the groups have created an incubator of policies that would restrict access to the ballot box and amplify false claims that fraud is rampant in American elections. The unstated yet implicit goal is to dampen Democratic turnout and help Republican candidates to victory.

Details of the two-day "secretaries of state conference" held in Washington in February were obtained by the watchdog group Documented and shared with the Guardian.

Officials from 13 Republican-controlled states, including 10 top election administrators, participated in the event. Attendees discussed controversial "election integrity" ideas of the sort weaponized by Donald Trump.
Among the participants were nine secretaries of state and Virginia's election commissioner, all of whom preside over both statewide and federal elections in their states including next year's presidential contest. A list of attendees namechecks the chief election officials of Indiana, Florida, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Tennessee, Virginia and West Virginia.

Documented also obtained the conference agenda which lists a number of Trump associates among the speakers. They include Ken Cuccinelli who, as acting deputy secretary for homeland security, played a key role in setting elections policy for the Trump administration.

Cuccinelli now runs the Election Transparency Initiative which is fighting Democratic efforts in Congress to shore up voting rights, and has been active in pushing state-level vote restriction measures.

The keynote speech was given by Ken Blackwell, former secretary of state in Ohio. He was an early adopter of Trump's lie about rigged elections, championing the idea in the 2016 presidential race which Trump won.
Blackwell now chairs the Center for Election Integrity at the America First Policy Institute, a rightwing thinktank led by former Trump officials. The center has been touting election-related model legislation.
Heritage was careful to organize the conference amid tight secrecy. Among the records obtained by Documented is an email from Hans von Spakovsky, a lawyer at the foundation who leads their election work.
Responding to a query about the event from a Texas official, Von Spakovsky said: "There is no livestream. This is not a public event. It is a private, confidential meeting of the secretaries. I would rather you not send out a press release about it."

Von Spakovsky has long been at the forefront of efforts to undermine US elections by claiming falsely that fraud is endemic. He helped spearhead the attack on voting by mail during the pandemic, holding private briefings with Republican state election officials a drive that became a core part of Trump's efforts to overturn his defeat in the 2020 presidential election.

Heritage and its political arm, Heritage Action for America, have spent tens of millions of dollars promoting their own model bills that impose strict restrictions on voting. They have targeted the investment on key battleground states such as Arizona, Georgia and Michigan that could hold the balance of power in the 2024 presidential race.

Heritage began hosting annual gatherings of Republican secretaries of state at the start of the Trump presidency in 2017. February's in-person conference was the first to be sponsored by three rightwing powerhouses of election denial and voter suppression Heritage, together with the Public Interest Legal Foundation (Pilf), and the Honest Elections Project (HEP).

Pilf is a conservative legal group that sues election officials to force them to purge voter rolls, a process that has affected eligible US voters. The group is led by J Christian Adams, a former justice department lawyer who tried to use the Voting Rights Act to claim voting discrimination against white people.

Trump's former lawyer Cleta Mitchell also sits on the Pilf board.

HEP is a conservative dark-money group closely tied to the Republican operative Leonard Leo who was instrumental in engineering the current conservative supermajority on the US supreme court. Reporting by ProPublica and the New York Times last year revealed that Leo has received control of a staggering $1.6bn to advance rightwing causes.

Concern about the potential of top election officials to subvert democracy intensified during the 2022 midterm elections when a number of individuals committed to Trump's stolen election lie also ran for office. They formed the "America First Secretary of State Coalition" which became a conduit of far-right conspiracy theories linked to QAnon.

Most of those candidates failed in their bid to take over the reins of election administration in their states. But the Heritage conference suggests that the desire to deploy Republican secretaries of state as channels of voter suppression and election misinformation remains very much alive

Though chief election officials are tasked with ensuring that ballots are fair and impartial, the Heritage conference was attended only by Republican secretaries of state.

The Guardian asked Heritage to explain why its conference was held in secret and with only Republican attendees. The group did not answer those questions.

Von Spakovsky said that the event was an "educational summit intended to provide information on current issues in elections and ensure that our election process protects the right to vote for American citizens by making it easy to vote and hard to cheat".

He disputed the argument that security measures at the ballot box such as voter ID suppressed turnout. "The claim that secure elections somehow promote greater restrictions is outrageous and has been clearly disproven," he said.

Von Spakovsky also pointed to Heritage's election fraud database, which he said sampled "proven instances of election fraud from across the country". The database records 1,422 "proven instances of voter fraud" stretching back to 1982 a 41-year period during which billions of votes have been cast in the US.

Several of the participants at the conference have election denial and voter suppression track records. They include Florida's secretary of state, Cord Byrd, who, soon after being appointed by Governor Ron DeSantis last spring, refused to say whether Joe Biden had won the 2020 presidential election.

Byrd runs Florida's "election integrity unit" that was set up by DeSantis last year to investigate election crimes, even though there is scant evidence of substantial voter fraud. More than a dozen citizens accused of illegally voting have been arrested at gunpoint under DeSantis's crackdown on supposed voter fraud.

Another attendee Jay Ashcroft, secretary of state of Missouri has been a leading proponent of that state's new restrictive voting law. His office has been named in numerous lawsuits in the last year for imposing extreme constraints on voter registration, including a recent lawsuit accusing Ashcroft of illegally blocking a ballot measure.

Tennessee's secretary of state, Tre Hargett, another listed participant, has been accused by Democratic leaders in Tennessee of purging thousands of voters from the official rolls.

Panel discussions laid out in the agenda were held on several of the core talking points of the current Republican party. The opening discussion, moderated by Von Spakovsky, was on "Auditing Expertise".
The main speaker was Paul Bettencourt, a state senator in Texas who has sponsored several bills making it harder to vote including a measure that would deploy armed "election marshals" to oversee polling stations.
Before the conference-goers attended a cocktail reception and dinner held at an upscale restaurant in downtown Washington, day one ended with a session entitled: "Realistic Eric Fixes and Reforms". Eric the Electronic Registration Information Center is a non-profit group run collectively by 28 states which is used to finesse the accuracy of state voter rolls.

In recent months it has become the target of rightwing conspiracy theories fueled by Trump who claimed falsely that it was rigged to benefit Democrats.

Ashcroft, the Missouri secretary of state, was one of the speakers in that session. Earlier this month he announced that he was pulling Missouri out of Eric, making it one of the first Republican-controlled states to quit the organization along with Alabama, Florida and West Virginia.

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Typical Guardian gaslighting.

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Osodecentx said:

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Tucker Carlson Out at Fox News

Fox News' top-performing host Tucker Carlson is leaving the network after appearing in the prime-time slot since November 2016.

"Fox News Media and Tucker Carlson have agreed to part ways. We thank him for his service to the network as a host and prior to that as a contributor," the company wrote

The sudden departure did not leave Carlson time to host a final farewell episode of his wildly successful program Tucker Carlson Tonight. His last episode was broadcast on Friday, April 21, the network said.

An interim show featuring a rotating cast of Fox News personalities will fill the 8 p.m. hour until a new host is named.

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This Right Wing extreme Trumpism is not going to end well for the GOP. They are putting out a lot of rhetoric with very little provable fact to back it up. FOX, the Right Wing Bastion for conservative thought is cutting ties with everyone that had anything to do with pushing the "election was stolen" narrative and Trump. If this doesn't send a message that it is a losing horse, I don't know what will short of Trump being convicted.

By the way, Lemon is also out at CNN.

Maybe we are starting to move back to the middle. Maybe some sanity is coming back.

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Serious question: What does moving back to the middle look like to you?

whiterock said:

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TenBears said:

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Both of them are half wit, histrionic, douchbag trolls. Today was a big win for journalism in general.

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Very bad take. He speaks for a majority of Americans. Herewith, the best 6 minutes you will spend this month. Hilarious, and absolutely spot on.

Tucker Carlson’s speech over the weekend was powerful. Too powerful apparently. pic.twitter.com/sxncP26Tda

— TexasLindsay™ (@TexasLindsay_) April 24, 2023

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Rod Dreher on Tucker being gone:

[So, Tucker Carlson is out. We don't yet know the reason, or reasons, why, though there has been speculation. Some say it has to do with ugly things he said in private about Fox executives, but I doubt that's true. You can tolerate a lot of that kind of thing from your top network star. More plausible are the reports that this has to do with the lawsuit a former Carlson producer filed against the network, alleging sexism and other bad behavior (though not actual sex). These are at this point nothing but allegations; Fox has denied them. But Fox has been through this kind of thing before, with Bill O'Reilly and Roger Ailes who, unlike Carlson, actually sexually harassed women so maybe Rupert Murdoch had no stomach for any sort of replay....


I could be wrong about this, but to my knowledge, now that Tucker is gone, there is nobody not a single host on any cable or broadcast network who is unsympathetic to continuing the US proxy war on Russia in Ukraine. Not one. We have no real antiwar Left, and barely an antiwar Right. This, after the lies that got us into Iraq and kept us in Afghanistan. This, after the deceit revealed by the Teixeira leaks. The Cathedral is all in for this war. It just rid itself of its most powerful and lone major media critic.
Seriously, think about that: it's as if everything that we learned about the US Government, its wars, and the trustworthiness of the leadership class, over the past twenty years has been swept under a rug. Forgotten. Here is a relevant passage from Live Not By Lies:

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"Not to know what happened before you were born is to remain a child forever," said Cicero. This, explains Kundera, is why communists placed such emphasis on conquering the minds and hearts of young people. In his novel The Book of Laughter and Forgetting, Kundera recalls a speech that Czech president Gustv Husk gave to a group of Young Pioneers, urging them to keep pressing forward to the Marxist paradise of peace, justice, and equality.

"Children, never look back!," [cries Kundera's character Husak], and what he meant was that we must never allow the future to collapse under the burden of memory.

A collective loss of historical memory not just memory of communism but memory of our shared cultural past within the West is bound to have a devastating effect on our future. It's not that forgetting the evils of communism means we are in danger of re-creating precisely that form of totalitarianism. It's that the act of forgetting itself makes us vulnerable to totalitarianism in general.
Put another way, we not only have to remember totalitarianism to build a resistance to it; we have to remember how to remember, period.

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Children, never look back! Forget about that trans person who murdered those Christians. Forget about the lies your government told you about Iraq and Afghanistan, and is telling you about Ukraine. Pay no attention to the fact that the political campaign of the man who is now the US president asked a former top CIA official to orchestrate some effort to make a story that was true but potentially hurtful to the cause of making Donald Trump go away and the retired spook did so, corralling fifty of his former colleagues from the senior ranks of the US intelligence establishment.

If you remember those things, the fabulous trans-imperial globalist security-state future they have planned for us might not happen. You might not have the opportunity to eat bugs. Your children might miss out on the chance to discover their true gender in elementary school, and to be raised by the state when Child Protective Services seizes them from you. Your daughter might be denied the opportunity to go into combat to queer the Donbass, and to gain enlightenment by seeing the Girl Todgers Of Progress on the transgendered "women" soldiers in the shower. Think of what you're missing! Tucker Carlson is no saint, but he is was at least someone who raised these issues substantively on his national show. That's over now. He won't be interfering with the future any longer, children. Nobody on TV will. If only he hadn't changed President Trump's mind in 2019, we might have had our jolly war with Iran. Don't worry, that's over now. Lock and load.]

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MT_Bear said:

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trey3216 said:

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BearFan33 said:

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maybe part of dominion settlement?


No reason was given for letting their top show go.

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100% to do with the settlement. He cost the network nearly $800mm.

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Even Tucker couldn't do that all by himself.

Fox cost themselves $800M and if there's any justice Smartmatic & the others they defamed will put them out of business. Them and their mouthpieces.

I can't count the number of "voter fraud" posts I read on this site. You guys repeated these talking points ad nauseam and some of you will keep doing it.

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Barack Obama - 69 million votes
Joe Biden - 81 million votes

Ummmm.............No. Did not happen. The Biden campaign couldn't attract flies.

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1. There were 20+ million more registered voters in the country.
2. Millions of "Biden" votes were really just anti-Trump votes.

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You got it. It will be 40 million I'd he wins the nomination. The guy needs to go away.

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The Democrats will NEVER allow Donald Trump to win another election, by any means necessary. Should we see another Biden vs. Trump election, the Dems will find 101 million votes for Dementia Joe. No doubt in my mind. Conservatives had better realize this or our country will continue to be the laughingstock of the world for four more years.

Redbrickbear said:

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whiterock said:

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TenBears said:

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Both of them are half wit, histrionic, douchbag trolls. Today was a big win for journalism in general.

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Very bad take. He speaks for a majority of Americans. Herewith, the best 6 minutes you will spend this month. Hilarious, and absolutely spot on.

Tucker Carlson’s speech over the weekend was powerful. Too powerful apparently. pic.twitter.com/sxncP26Tda

— TexasLindsay™ (@TexasLindsay_) April 24, 2023

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Rod Dreher on Tucker being gone:

[So, Tucker Carlson is out. We don't yet know the reason, or reasons, why, though there has been speculation. Some say it has to do with ugly things he said in private about Fox executives, but I doubt that's true. You can tolerate a lot of that kind of thing from your top network star. More plausible are the reports that this has to do with the lawsuit a former Carlson producer filed against the network, alleging sexism and other bad behavior (though not actual sex). These are at this point nothing but allegations; Fox has denied them. But Fox has been through this kind of thing before, with Bill O'Reilly and Roger Ailes who, unlike Carlson, actually sexually harassed women so maybe Rupert Murdoch had no stomach for any sort of replay....


I could be wrong about this, but to my knowledge, now that Tucker is gone, there is nobody not a single host on any cable or broadcast network who is unsympathetic to continuing the US proxy war on Russia in Ukraine. Not one. We have no real antiwar Left, and barely an antiwar Right. This, after the lies that got us into Iraq and kept us in Afghanistan. This, after the deceit revealed by the Teixeira leaks. The Cathedral is all in for this war. It just rid itself of its most powerful and lone major media critic.
Seriously, think about that: it's as if everything that we learned about the US Government, its wars, and the trustworthiness of the leadership class, over the past twenty years has been swept under a rug. Forgotten. Here is a relevant passage from Live Not By Lies:

Quote:

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"Not to know what happened before you were born is to remain a child forever," said Cicero. This, explains Kundera, is why communists placed such emphasis on conquering the minds and hearts of young people. In his novel The Book of Laughter and Forgetting, Kundera recalls a speech that Czech president Gustv Husk gave to a group of Young Pioneers, urging them to keep pressing forward to the Marxist paradise of peace, justice, and equality.

"Children, never look back!," [cries Kundera's character Husak], and what he meant was that we must never allow the future to collapse under the burden of memory.

A collective loss of historical memory not just memory of communism but memory of our shared cultural past within the West is bound to have a devastating effect on our future. It's not that forgetting the evils of communism means we are in danger of re-creating precisely that form of totalitarianism. It's that the act of forgetting itself makes us vulnerable to totalitarianism in general.
Put another way, we not only have to remember totalitarianism to build a resistance to it; we have to remember how to remember, period.

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Children, never look back! Forget about that trans person who murdered those Christians. Forget about the lies your government told you about Iraq and Afghanistan, and is telling you about Ukraine. Pay no attention to the fact that the political campaign of the man who is now the US president asked a former top CIA official to orchestrate some effort to make a story that was true but potentially hurtful to the cause of making Donald Trump go away and the retired spook did so, corralling fifty of his former colleagues from the senior ranks of the US intelligence establishment.

If you remember those things, the fabulous trans-imperial globalist security-state future they have planned for us might not happen. You might not have the opportunity to eat bugs. Your children might miss out on the chance to discover their true gender in elementary school, and to be raised by the state when Child Protective Services seizes them from you. Your daughter might be denied the opportunity to go into combat to queer the Donbass, and to gain enlightenment by seeing the Girl Todgers Of Progress on the transgendered "women" soldiers in the shower. Think of what you're missing! Tucker Carlson is no saint, but he is was at least someone who raised these issues substantively on his national show. That's over now. He won't be interfering with the future any longer, children. Nobody on TV will. If only he hadn't changed President Trump's mind in 2019, we might have had our jolly war with Iran. Don't worry, that's over now. Lock and load.]

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Great post. The Kundera story reminds me of the recent trend of censoring classic books by Wodehouse, Dahl, and others. Totalitarianism marketed by woke capital and (mostly) accepted by a willing public. If that's not the canary in the coal mine, I don't know what is.

Wow. They had to have had this planned because they already have Tucker's replacement lined up.

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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J.B.Katz said:

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trey3216 said:

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BearFan33 said:

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maybe part of dominion settlement?


No reason was given for letting their top show go.

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100% to do with the settlement. He cost the network nearly $800mm.

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Even Tucker couldn't do that all by himself.

Fox cost themselves $800M and if there's any justice Smartmatic & the others they defamed will put them out of business. Them and their mouthpieces.

I can't count the number of "voter fraud" posts I read on this site. You guys repeated these talking points ad nauseam and some of you will keep doing it.

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Barack Obama - 69 million votes
Joe Biden - 81 million votes

Ummmm.............No. Did not happen. The Biden campaign couldn't attract flies.

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I understand why some people point to these numbers, but what this tells me is more people actually voted in the 2020 election because it was easier to do so. Trump himself had 12 million more votes than the 2016 election and about 5 million more votes than Obama (the number you indicate above). Does that mean there was shady business going on for Trump, or just that more people voted for him because it was easier to vote?

We can have a discussion whether the remote voting options should have been offered in the pandemic and if they were legally enacted, but the fact is we actually had a more representative election because a higher percentage of people voted than we have had in over 100 years (the last time we had over 65% voter turnout was in 1908 and I have a feeling the size of the electorate - 19th amendment was until 1920 - at that time had something to do with why that number was so high). If you make voting easier to do, more people vote. Anecdotally, I know several people that voted for the first time in a long time because it was easier to do so in 2020. That doesn't mean there wasn't some shady stuff going on and there may have been some shady stuff going on in key districts that potentially turned the outcome of the election, but I don't think Biden picking up over 3 million more votes than Obama in California (as one example) had an impact on the election.

You look silly pointing to large numbers in an election that had a historic turnout.

Redbrickbear said:

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whiterock said:

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TenBears said:

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Both of them are half wit, histrionic, douchbag trolls. Today was a big win for journalism in general.

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Very bad take. He speaks for a majority of Americans. Herewith, the best 6 minutes you will spend this month. Hilarious, and absolutely spot on.

Tucker Carlson’s speech over the weekend was powerful. Too powerful apparently. pic.twitter.com/sxncP26Tda

— TexasLindsay™ (@TexasLindsay_) April 24, 2023

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Rod Dreher on Tucker being gone:

[So, Tucker Carlson is out. We don't yet know the reason, or reasons, why, though there has been speculation. Some say it has to do with ugly things he said in private about Fox executives, but I doubt that's true. You can tolerate a lot of that kind of thing from your top network star. More plausible are the reports that this has to do with the lawsuit a former Carlson producer filed against the network, alleging sexism and other bad behavior (though not actual sex). These are at this point nothing but allegations; Fox has denied them. But Fox has been through this kind of thing before, with Bill O'Reilly and Roger Ailes who, unlike Carlson, actually sexually harassed women so maybe Rupert Murdoch had no stomach for any sort of replay....


I could be wrong about this, but to my knowledge, now that Tucker is gone, there is nobody not a single host on any cable or broadcast network who is unsympathetic to continuing the US proxy war on Russia in Ukraine. Not one. We have no real antiwar Left, and barely an antiwar Right. This, after the lies that got us into Iraq and kept us in Afghanistan. This, after the deceit revealed by the Teixeira leaks. The Cathedral is all in for this war. It just rid itself of its most powerful and lone major media critic.
Seriously, think about that: it's as if everything that we learned about the US Government, its wars, and the trustworthiness of the leadership class, over the past twenty years has been swept under a rug. Forgotten. Here is a relevant passage from Live Not By Lies:

Quote:

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"Not to know what happened before you were born is to remain a child forever," said Cicero. This, explains Kundera, is why communists placed such emphasis on conquering the minds and hearts of young people. In his novel The Book of Laughter and Forgetting, Kundera recalls a speech that Czech president Gustv Husk gave to a group of Young Pioneers, urging them to keep pressing forward to the Marxist paradise of peace, justice, and equality.

"Children, never look back!," [cries Kundera's character Husak], and what he meant was that we must never allow the future to collapse under the burden of memory.

A collective loss of historical memory not just memory of communism but memory of our shared cultural past within the West is bound to have a devastating effect on our future. It's not that forgetting the evils of communism means we are in danger of re-creating precisely that form of totalitarianism. It's that the act of forgetting itself makes us vulnerable to totalitarianism in general.
Put another way, we not only have to remember totalitarianism to build a resistance to it; we have to remember how to remember, period.

---

Children, never look back! Forget about that trans person who murdered those Christians. Forget about the lies your government told you about Iraq and Afghanistan, and is telling you about Ukraine. Pay no attention to the fact that the political campaign of the man who is now the US president asked a former top CIA official to orchestrate some effort to make a story that was true but potentially hurtful to the cause of making Donald Trump go away and the retired spook did so, corralling fifty of his former colleagues from the senior ranks of the US intelligence establishment.

If you remember those things, the fabulous trans-imperial globalist security-state future they have planned for us might not happen. You might not have the opportunity to eat bugs. Your children might miss out on the chance to discover their true gender in elementary school, and to be raised by the state when Child Protective Services seizes them from you. Your daughter might be denied the opportunity to go into combat to queer the Donbass, and to gain enlightenment by seeing the Girl Todgers Of Progress on the transgendered "women" soldiers in the shower. Think of what you're missing! Tucker Carlson is no saint, but he is was at least someone who raised these issues substantively on his national show. That's over now. He won't be interfering with the future any longer, children. Nobody on TV will. If only he hadn't changed President Trump's mind in 2019, we might have had our jolly war with Iran. Don't worry, that's over now. Lock and load.]

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Tearing down, undermining, and rewriting history is certainly not a recent trend. Where I get lost is how this entire thing ties into the war in Ukraine. It's like a hodge podge guilt by association effort. One can believe the trans movement is horrifically destructive, that Iraq was a mistake, Afghan nation building was a blunder, intelligence and law enforcement are being frighteningly abused, that wokism is an existential threat, but still believe material support of Ukraine is a worthy cause. I mean totalitarianism takes many forms, and the leftist efforts in this nation is one brand, but so is the type that would militarily conquer a nation in order to take its land and enforce its own rule. History would show the latter to be the most prominent instrument of it.

ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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whiterock said:

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TenBears said:

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Both of them are half wit, histrionic, douchbag trolls. Today was a big win for journalism in general.

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Very bad take. He speaks for a majority of Americans. Herewith, the best 6 minutes you will spend this month. Hilarious, and absolutely spot on.

Tucker Carlson’s speech over the weekend was powerful. Too powerful apparently. pic.twitter.com/sxncP26Tda

— TexasLindsay™ (@TexasLindsay_) April 24, 2023

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Rod Dreher on Tucker being gone:

[So, Tucker Carlson is out. We don't yet know the reason, or reasons, why, though there has been speculation. Some say it has to do with ugly things he said in private about Fox executives, but I doubt that's true. You can tolerate a lot of that kind of thing from your top network star. More plausible are the reports that this has to do with the lawsuit a former Carlson producer filed against the network, alleging sexism and other bad behavior (though not actual sex). These are at this point nothing but allegations; Fox has denied them. But Fox has been through this kind of thing before, with Bill O'Reilly and Roger Ailes who, unlike Carlson, actually sexually harassed women so maybe Rupert Murdoch had no stomach for any sort of replay....


I could be wrong about this, but to my knowledge, now that Tucker is gone, there is nobody not a single host on any cable or broadcast network who is unsympathetic to continuing the US proxy war on Russia in Ukraine. Not one. We have no real antiwar Left, and barely an antiwar Right. This, after the lies that got us into Iraq and kept us in Afghanistan. This, after the deceit revealed by the Teixeira leaks. The Cathedral is all in for this war. It just rid itself of its most powerful and lone major media critic.
Seriously, think about that: it's as if everything that we learned about the US Government, its wars, and the trustworthiness of the leadership class, over the past twenty years has been swept under a rug. Forgotten. Here is a relevant passage from Live Not By Lies:

Quote:

---

"Not to know what happened before you were born is to remain a child forever," said Cicero. This, explains Kundera, is why communists placed such emphasis on conquering the minds and hearts of young people. In his novel The Book of Laughter and Forgetting, Kundera recalls a speech that Czech president Gustv Husk gave to a group of Young Pioneers, urging them to keep pressing forward to the Marxist paradise of peace, justice, and equality.

"Children, never look back!," [cries Kundera's character Husak], and what he meant was that we must never allow the future to collapse under the burden of memory.

A collective loss of historical memory not just memory of communism but memory of our shared cultural past within the West is bound to have a devastating effect on our future. It's not that forgetting the evils of communism means we are in danger of re-creating precisely that form of totalitarianism. It's that the act of forgetting itself makes us vulnerable to totalitarianism in general.
Put another way, we not only have to remember totalitarianism to build a resistance to it; we have to remember how to remember, period.

---

Children, never look back! Forget about that trans person who murdered those Christians. Forget about the lies your government told you about Iraq and Afghanistan, and is telling you about Ukraine. Pay no attention to the fact that the political campaign of the man who is now the US president asked a former top CIA official to orchestrate some effort to make a story that was true but potentially hurtful to the cause of making Donald Trump go away and the retired spook did so, corralling fifty of his former colleagues from the senior ranks of the US intelligence establishment.

If you remember those things, the fabulous trans-imperial globalist security-state future they have planned for us might not happen. You might not have the opportunity to eat bugs. Your children might miss out on the chance to discover their true gender in elementary school, and to be raised by the state when Child Protective Services seizes them from you. Your daughter might be denied the opportunity to go into combat to queer the Donbass, and to gain enlightenment by seeing the Girl Todgers Of Progress on the transgendered "women" soldiers in the shower. Think of what you're missing! Tucker Carlson is no saint, but he is was at least someone who raised these issues substantively on his national show. That's over now. He won't be interfering with the future any longer, children. Nobody on TV will. If only he hadn't changed President Trump's mind in 2019, we might have had our jolly war with Iran. Don't worry, that's over now. Lock and load.]

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Tearing down, undermining, and rewriting history is certainly not a recent trend. Where I get lost is how this entire thing ties into the war in Ukraine. It's like a hodge podge guilt by association effort. One can believe the trans movement is horrifically destructive, that Iraq was a mistake, Afghan nation building was a blunder, intelligence and law enforcement are being frighteningly abused, that wokism is an existential threat, but still believe material support of Ukraine is a worthy cause. I mean totalitarianism takes many forms, and the leftist efforts in this nation is one brand, but so is the type that would militarily conquer a nation in order to take its land and enforce its own rule. History would show the latter to be the most prominent instrument of it.

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If the Liberal-Left is for Trans, LGBTQ+, history destruction-revisionism, Afghan nation building and interventionism in general, woke ideological policing, intelligence agencies abuse (if it means spying on conservatives), etc.

Then you also might want to ponder how that side (Liberalism-Leftism) is also all in on fighting the Ukraine war.

Maybe just maybe....if your enemy is in love with something you should question the narrative you are being sold.

Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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whiterock said:

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TenBears said:

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Both of them are half wit, histrionic, douchbag trolls. Today was a big win for journalism in general.

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Very bad take. He speaks for a majority of Americans. Herewith, the best 6 minutes you will spend this month. Hilarious, and absolutely spot on.

Tucker Carlson’s speech over the weekend was powerful. Too powerful apparently. pic.twitter.com/sxncP26Tda

— TexasLindsay™ (@TexasLindsay_) April 24, 2023

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Rod Dreher on Tucker being gone:

[So, Tucker Carlson is out. We don't yet know the reason, or reasons, why, though there has been speculation. Some say it has to do with ugly things he said in private about Fox executives, but I doubt that's true. You can tolerate a lot of that kind of thing from your top network star. More plausible are the reports that this has to do with the lawsuit a former Carlson producer filed against the network, alleging sexism and other bad behavior (though not actual sex). These are at this point nothing but allegations; Fox has denied them. But Fox has been through this kind of thing before, with Bill O'Reilly and Roger Ailes who, unlike Carlson, actually sexually harassed women so maybe Rupert Murdoch had no stomach for any sort of replay....


I could be wrong about this, but to my knowledge, now that Tucker is gone, there is nobody not a single host on any cable or broadcast network who is unsympathetic to continuing the US proxy war on Russia in Ukraine. Not one. We have no real antiwar Left, and barely an antiwar Right. This, after the lies that got us into Iraq and kept us in Afghanistan. This, after the deceit revealed by the Teixeira leaks. The Cathedral is all in for this war. It just rid itself of its most powerful and lone major media critic.
Seriously, think about that: it's as if everything that we learned about the US Government, its wars, and the trustworthiness of the leadership class, over the past twenty years has been swept under a rug. Forgotten. Here is a relevant passage from Live Not By Lies:

Quote:

---

"Not to know what happened before you were born is to remain a child forever," said Cicero. This, explains Kundera, is why communists placed such emphasis on conquering the minds and hearts of young people. In his novel The Book of Laughter and Forgetting, Kundera recalls a speech that Czech president Gustv Husk gave to a group of Young Pioneers, urging them to keep pressing forward to the Marxist paradise of peace, justice, and equality.

"Children, never look back!," [cries Kundera's character Husak], and what he meant was that we must never allow the future to collapse under the burden of memory.

A collective loss of historical memory not just memory of communism but memory of our shared cultural past within the West is bound to have a devastating effect on our future. It's not that forgetting the evils of communism means we are in danger of re-creating precisely that form of totalitarianism. It's that the act of forgetting itself makes us vulnerable to totalitarianism in general.
Put another way, we not only have to remember totalitarianism to build a resistance to it; we have to remember how to remember, period.

---

Children, never look back! Forget about that trans person who murdered those Christians. Forget about the lies your government told you about Iraq and Afghanistan, and is telling you about Ukraine. Pay no attention to the fact that the political campaign of the man who is now the US president asked a former top CIA official to orchestrate some effort to make a story that was true but potentially hurtful to the cause of making Donald Trump go away and the retired spook did so, corralling fifty of his former colleagues from the senior ranks of the US intelligence establishment.

If you remember those things, the fabulous trans-imperial globalist security-state future they have planned for us might not happen. You might not have the opportunity to eat bugs. Your children might miss out on the chance to discover their true gender in elementary school, and to be raised by the state when Child Protective Services seizes them from you. Your daughter might be denied the opportunity to go into combat to queer the Donbass, and to gain enlightenment by seeing the Girl Todgers Of Progress on the transgendered "women" soldiers in the shower. Think of what you're missing! Tucker Carlson is no saint, but he is was at least someone who raised these issues substantively on his national show. That's over now. He won't be interfering with the future any longer, children. Nobody on TV will. If only he hadn't changed President Trump's mind in 2019, we might have had our jolly war with Iran. Don't worry, that's over now. Lock and load.]

---

Tearing down, undermining, and rewriting history is certainly not a recent trend. Where I get lost is how this entire thing ties into the war in Ukraine. It's like a hodge podge guilt by association effort. One can believe the trans movement is horrifically destructive, that Iraq was a mistake, Afghan nation building was a blunder, intelligence and law enforcement are being frighteningly abused, that wokism is an existential threat, but still believe material support of Ukraine is a worthy cause. I mean totalitarianism takes many forms, and the leftist efforts in this nation is one brand, but so is the type that would militarily conquer a nation in order to take its land and enforce its own rule. History would show the latter to be the most prominent instrument of it.

---

If the Liberal-Left is for Trans, LGBTQ+, history destruction-revisionism, Afghan nation building and interventionism in general, woke ideological policing, intelligence agencies abuse (if it means spying on conservatives), etc.

Then you also might want to ponder how that side (Liberalism-Leftism) is also all in on fighting the Ukraine war.

Maybe just maybe....if your enemy is in love with something you should question the narrative you are being sold.

---

Sort of like how they're all in against tax cuts for "the wealthy"? Or how actual racist organizations like the Klan are anti-immigration? Sorry, I don't assume a guilt by association. Each issue has its own merits for debate and agreement/disagreement. Besides, most are more nuanced than a black and white for/against.

ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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whiterock said:

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TenBears said:

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Both of them are half wit, histrionic, douchbag trolls. Today was a big win for journalism in general.

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Very bad take. He speaks for a majority of Americans. Herewith, the best 6 minutes you will spend this month. Hilarious, and absolutely spot on.

Tucker Carlson’s speech over the weekend was powerful. Too powerful apparently. pic.twitter.com/sxncP26Tda

— TexasLindsay™ (@TexasLindsay_) April 24, 2023

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Rod Dreher on Tucker being gone:

[So, Tucker Carlson is out. We don't yet know the reason, or reasons, why, though there has been speculation. Some say it has to do with ugly things he said in private about Fox executives, but I doubt that's true. You can tolerate a lot of that kind of thing from your top network star. More plausible are the reports that this has to do with the lawsuit a former Carlson producer filed against the network, alleging sexism and other bad behavior (though not actual sex). These are at this point nothing but allegations; Fox has denied them. But Fox has been through this kind of thing before, with Bill O'Reilly and Roger Ailes who, unlike Carlson, actually sexually harassed women so maybe Rupert Murdoch had no stomach for any sort of replay....


I could be wrong about this, but to my knowledge, now that Tucker is gone, there is nobody not a single host on any cable or broadcast network who is unsympathetic to continuing the US proxy war on Russia in Ukraine. Not one. We have no real antiwar Left, and barely an antiwar Right. This, after the lies that got us into Iraq and kept us in Afghanistan. This, after the deceit revealed by the Teixeira leaks. The Cathedral is all in for this war. It just rid itself of its most powerful and lone major media critic.
Seriously, think about that: it's as if everything that we learned about the US Government, its wars, and the trustworthiness of the leadership class, over the past twenty years has been swept under a rug. Forgotten. Here is a relevant passage from Live Not By Lies:

Quote:

---

"Not to know what happened before you were born is to remain a child forever," said Cicero. This, explains Kundera, is why communists placed such emphasis on conquering the minds and hearts of young people. In his novel The Book of Laughter and Forgetting, Kundera recalls a speech that Czech president Gustv Husk gave to a group of Young Pioneers, urging them to keep pressing forward to the Marxist paradise of peace, justice, and equality.

"Children, never look back!," [cries Kundera's character Husak], and what he meant was that we must never allow the future to collapse under the burden of memory.

A collective loss of historical memory not just memory of communism but memory of our shared cultural past within the West is bound to have a devastating effect on our future. It's not that forgetting the evils of communism means we are in danger of re-creating precisely that form of totalitarianism. It's that the act of forgetting itself makes us vulnerable to totalitarianism in general.
Put another way, we not only have to remember totalitarianism to build a resistance to it; we have to remember how to remember, period.

---

Children, never look back! Forget about that trans person who murdered those Christians. Forget about the lies your government told you about Iraq and Afghanistan, and is telling you about Ukraine. Pay no attention to the fact that the political campaign of the man who is now the US president asked a former top CIA official to orchestrate some effort to make a story that was true but potentially hurtful to the cause of making Donald Trump go away and the retired spook did so, corralling fifty of his former colleagues from the senior ranks of the US intelligence establishment.

If you remember those things, the fabulous trans-imperial globalist security-state future they have planned for us might not happen. You might not have the opportunity to eat bugs. Your children might miss out on the chance to discover their true gender in elementary school, and to be raised by the state when Child Protective Services seizes them from you. Your daughter might be denied the opportunity to go into combat to queer the Donbass, and to gain enlightenment by seeing the Girl Todgers Of Progress on the transgendered "women" soldiers in the shower. Think of what you're missing! Tucker Carlson is no saint, but he is was at least someone who raised these issues substantively on his national show. That's over now. He won't be interfering with the future any longer, children. Nobody on TV will. If only he hadn't changed President Trump's mind in 2019, we might have had our jolly war with Iran. Don't worry, that's over now. Lock and load.]

---

Tearing down, undermining, and rewriting history is certainly not a recent trend. Where I get lost is how this entire thing ties into the war in Ukraine. It's like a hodge podge guilt by association effort. One can believe the trans movement is horrifically destructive, that Iraq was a mistake, Afghan nation building was a blunder, intelligence and law enforcement are being frighteningly abused, that wokism is an existential threat, but still believe material support of Ukraine is a worthy cause. I mean totalitarianism takes many forms, and the leftist efforts in this nation is one brand, but so is the type that would militarily conquer a nation in order to take its land and enforce its own rule. History would show the latter to be the most prominent instrument of it.

---

If the Liberal-Left is for Trans, LGBTQ+, history destruction-revisionism, Afghan nation building and interventionism in general, woke ideological policing, intelligence agencies abuse (if it means spying on conservatives), etc.

Then you also might want to ponder how that side (Liberalism-Leftism) is also all in on fighting the Ukraine war.

Maybe just maybe....if your enemy is in love with something you should question the narrative you are being sold.

---

Sort of like how they're all in against tax cuts for "the wealthy"? Or how actual racist organizations like the Klan are anti-immigration? Sorry, I don't assume a guilt by association. Each issue has its own merits for debate and agreement/disagreement. Besides, most are more nuanced than a black and white for/against.

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Obviously its something to think about.

If you really come to the conclusion that the entire Regime that hates you and is actively working against your material, cultural, political interests....is also right about Ukraine....then fine go a head and support it.

For me it at least gives me serious pause.

Why is our corrupt-Godless-outright evil ruling class and D.C. regime also so interested in a corrupt ex-Soviet satellite state?

Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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whiterock said:

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TenBears said:

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Both of them are half wit, histrionic, douchbag trolls. Today was a big win for journalism in general.

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Very bad take. He speaks for a majority of Americans. Herewith, the best 6 minutes you will spend this month. Hilarious, and absolutely spot on.

Tucker Carlson’s speech over the weekend was powerful. Too powerful apparently. pic.twitter.com/sxncP26Tda

— TexasLindsay™ (@TexasLindsay_) April 24, 2023

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Rod Dreher on Tucker being gone:

[So, Tucker Carlson is out. We don't yet know the reason, or reasons, why, though there has been speculation. Some say it has to do with ugly things he said in private about Fox executives, but I doubt that's true. You can tolerate a lot of that kind of thing from your top network star. More plausible are the reports that this has to do with the lawsuit a former Carlson producer filed against the network, alleging sexism and other bad behavior (though not actual sex). These are at this point nothing but allegations; Fox has denied them. But Fox has been through this kind of thing before, with Bill O'Reilly and Roger Ailes who, unlike Carlson, actually sexually harassed women so maybe Rupert Murdoch had no stomach for any sort of replay....


I could be wrong about this, but to my knowledge, now that Tucker is gone, there is nobody not a single host on any cable or broadcast network who is unsympathetic to continuing the US proxy war on Russia in Ukraine. Not one. We have no real antiwar Left, and barely an antiwar Right. This, after the lies that got us into Iraq and kept us in Afghanistan. This, after the deceit revealed by the Teixeira leaks. The Cathedral is all in for this war. It just rid itself of its most powerful and lone major media critic.
Seriously, think about that: it's as if everything that we learned about the US Government, its wars, and the trustworthiness of the leadership class, over the past twenty years has been swept under a rug. Forgotten. Here is a relevant passage from Live Not By Lies:

Quote:

---

"Not to know what happened before you were born is to remain a child forever," said Cicero. This, explains Kundera, is why communists placed such emphasis on conquering the minds and hearts of young people. In his novel The Book of Laughter and Forgetting, Kundera recalls a speech that Czech president Gustv Husk gave to a group of Young Pioneers, urging them to keep pressing forward to the Marxist paradise of peace, justice, and equality.

"Children, never look back!," [cries Kundera's character Husak], and what he meant was that we must never allow the future to collapse under the burden of memory.

A collective loss of historical memory not just memory of communism but memory of our shared cultural past within the West is bound to have a devastating effect on our future. It's not that forgetting the evils of communism means we are in danger of re-creating precisely that form of totalitarianism. It's that the act of forgetting itself makes us vulnerable to totalitarianism in general.
Put another way, we not only have to remember totalitarianism to build a resistance to it; we have to remember how to remember, period.

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Children, never look back! Forget about that trans person who murdered those Christians. Forget about the lies your government told you about Iraq and Afghanistan, and is telling you about Ukraine. Pay no attention to the fact that the political campaign of the man who is now the US president asked a former top CIA official to orchestrate some effort to make a story that was true but potentially hurtful to the cause of making Donald Trump go away and the retired spook did so, corralling fifty of his former colleagues from the senior ranks of the US intelligence establishment.

If you remember those things, the fabulous trans-imperial globalist security-state future they have planned for us might not happen. You might not have the opportunity to eat bugs. Your children might miss out on the chance to discover their true gender in elementary school, and to be raised by the state when Child Protective Services seizes them from you. Your daughter might be denied the opportunity to go into combat to queer the Donbass, and to gain enlightenment by seeing the Girl Todgers Of Progress on the transgendered "women" soldiers in the shower. Think of what you're missing! Tucker Carlson is no saint, but he is was at least someone who raised these issues substantively on his national show. That's over now. He won't be interfering with the future any longer, children. Nobody on TV will. If only he hadn't changed President Trump's mind in 2019, we might have had our jolly war with Iran. Don't worry, that's over now. Lock and load.]

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Tearing down, undermining, and rewriting history is certainly not a recent trend. Where I get lost is how this entire thing ties into the war in Ukraine. It's like a hodge podge guilt by association effort. One can believe the trans movement is horrifically destructive, that Iraq was a mistake, Afghan nation building was a blunder, intelligence and law enforcement are being frighteningly abused, that wokism is an existential threat, but still believe material support of Ukraine is a worthy cause. I mean totalitarianism takes many forms, and the leftist efforts in this nation is one brand, but so is the type that would militarily conquer a nation in order to take its land and enforce its own rule. History would show the latter to be the most prominent instrument of it.

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If the Liberal-Left is for Trans, LGBTQ+, history destruction-revisionism, Afghan nation building and interventionism in general, woke ideological policing, intelligence agencies abuse (if it means spying on conservatives), etc.

Then you also might want to ponder how that side (Liberalism-Leftism) is also all in on fighting the Ukraine war.

Maybe just maybe....if your enemy is in love with something you should question the narrative you are being sold.

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Sort of like how they're all in against tax cuts for "the wealthy"? Or how actual racist organizations like the Klan are anti-immigration? Sorry, I don't assume a guilt by association. Each issue has its own merits for debate and agreement/disagreement. Besides, most are more nuanced than a black and white for/against.

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Obviously its something to think about.

If you really come to the conclusion that the entire Regime that hates you and is actively working against your material, cultural, political interests....is also right about Ukraine....then fine go a head and support it.

For me it at least gives me serious pause.

Why is our corrupt-Godless-outright evil ruling class and D.C. regime also so interested in a corrupt ex-Soviet satellite state?

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Just do what the left does and say, "coincidence!"

Jack Bauer said:

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If we just let Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries decide what to say, then everything will be ok.

Here's Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer on CNN explaining why he thinks Washington, D.C. can and should dictate to Fox News and Tucker Carlson what they can and cannot say:

"We not only have a right to tell Rupert Murdoch and Fox what to do, but an obligation." pic.twitter.com/FvipIN9Yib

— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) April 24, 2023

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Liberals hate freedom of speech