Not sure Barr had time for a serious investigation but if they changed the laws for Covid but never changed them back it isn't fraud, necessarily, but it's not honest. But democrats lie all the time in pursuit of power. (See Dominion, the ONE avenue they had time to check?) Some people can see a man is a man despite the claims of that man otherwise. Some people can see the chicanery that went on and some people claim it was the most secure elections ever.RMF5630 said:Yet not one of Trump's brilliant lawyers pursued a case on that, they stuck with fraud. Fraud may sound great in a sound bite, but Courts go by real definitions. Barr even told them there was no fraud and to pursue the other. So, we don't know and will never know. Once again, nothing provable has been shown anywhere. Worse, every avenue that they checked went against that theory, see Dominion.Wangchung said:The Kung flu being real or not is irrelevant. As even you admit, democrats changed the voting rules under the guise of Covid protection and we have no idea which ones repealed those laws and which ones decided they liked the results. Best to be agnostic at worst over this, as making definitive claims either way only comes from personal bias.RMF5630 said:Yet nothing has been proven. It is all innuendo and supposition. They repealed election laws in effect during a pandemic when the pandemic ends. The Cads... How telling...Fre3dombear said:ATL Bear said:I think I've shown I'm as anti-Trump as anyone. But while you are correct that the irregularities, or temporary COVID period allowances, are not fraud, there are pieces of the 2020 election that did have a material impact, and sit in a gray area of abuse vs fraud. The "real votes from people" gets dicey in the process of absentee balloting. Especially when you had a 600% increase in Absentee balloting, and an even greater percentage increase in absentee ballots submitted from "temporary/out of state" addresses when comparing 2016 to 2020. The other anomaly is that comparing 2016 to 2020, in 2016 absentee ballots favored the Republican candidates by a small margin. In 2020 it was a 30% margin (65-35) in favor of Democrats. A large, not traditionally validated batch of votes with a huge margin in favor of a particular party seems odd. Especially when you consider that in person voting (early and election day) hit a record that year too.RMF5630 said:The "irregularities" are not fraud and not nearly enough to impact the election. If anything, the rules enacted by some States were illegal based on their statutes, but no one went after that one.ATL Bear said:The irregularities are real. They just went after the machines, which were not the factor they claimed, and a private company with giant government contracts at stake went after them hard. The main claim is that the machines "switched votes". That has nothing to do with open ended absentee balloting, vote allowance for unmatched signatures, double running ballots, or unverified voter roll data.J.B.Katz said:Even Tucker couldn't do that all by himself.trey3216 said:100% to do with the settlement. He cost the network nearly $800mm.BearFan33 said:
maybe part of dominion settlement?
No reason was given for letting their top show go.
Fox cost themselves $800M and if there's any justice Smartmatic & the others they defamed will put them out of business. Them and their mouthpieces.
I can't count the number of "voter fraud" posts I read on this site. You guys repeated these talking points ad nauseam and some of you will keep doing it.
The one little piece of info people forget is that even if the drop boxes, extended periods, harvesting and mail-ins being allowed was not within their authority to grant, those are real votes from people. They voted for Biden, not Trump. Trump legitimately lost that election and was turned out by the voters. The only way he even comes close to winning is to force the Courts to throw out people's votes because they used a drop box? Mailed in? Went during extended periods? Gave the envelope to someone to take to the election site? What Court is going to disenfranchise that many people? No, Trump lost. Live with it and learn, DO NOT RUN HIM AGAIN!
All one needs to do is look at how many of those unlawful "new laws" have been repealed back to what it was in 2016 for 2024 and it tells you all you need to know
Oh, I forgot. There wasn't really a pandemic it was a plot by the world to make Trump look bad and help Biden win. Or was it a plan to depopulate the earth? Or was it a Chinese pre-bug to WW3? Or a Socialist Plot to over throw Capitalism and enter a Socialist new order. But, the one thing it couldn't be was an infectious disease pandemic that we overreacted too. We are suckers if we believe that one, right? Real thinking people know it was a government plot...
Come on, give us something provable that does not rely on a conspiracy or a new world order. Really. There has been nothing and FOX was almost put out of business saying there was something.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?
