How To Get To Heaven When You Die

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Oldbear83
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And there it is again, that arrogance which - deliberately it appears - ignores the point.

All the popes are sinners, just like the rest of us.

How then is a pope therefore qualified to rule on a doctrine not specifically set out in Scripture?

Your anger serves no good purpose, brother.
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Coke Bear
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Oldbear83 said:

And there it is again, that arrogance which - deliberately it appears - ignores the point.

All the popes are sinners, just like the rest of us.

How then is a pope therefore qualified to rule on a doctrine not specifically set out in Scripture?

Your anger serves no good purpose, brother.

There is no anger here. I actually feel sorry for you.

How would any sinner be able to rule on doctrine? Your premise is illogical.

Scripture says otherwise,

Matt 16:18-19 -

"And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."

John 21:1517 - Jesus Reinstates Peter

When they had finished eating, Jesus said to Simon Peter, "Simon son of John, do you love me more than these?"
"Yes, Lord," he said, "you know that I love you."
Jesus said, "Feed my lambs."
Again Jesus said, "Simon son of John, do you love me?"
He answered, "Yes, Lord, you know that I love you."
Jesus said, "Take care of my sheep."
The third time he said to him, "Simon son of John, do you love me?"
Peter was hurt because Jesus asked him the third time, "Do you love me?" He said, "Lord, you know all things; you know that I love you."
Jesus said, "Feed my sheep."

Just because the pope is a sinner doesn't mean that he can rule on doctrine. Papal infallibility a negative protection from error, not a positive inspiration like a prophet or apostle.

How did sinful men rule at the Council of Nicaea confirm the Divinity of Christ (homoousios) in spite of the Arians?
How did sinful men rule at the Council of Constantinople confirm the Divinity of the Holy Spirit in spite of the Macedonians?

Your sinner men premise fails at the beginning.

Oldbear83
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And yet again, you cherry-pick what you believe supports your opinion, and the rest is ignored.

For that, I feel sorry for you, as you miss much of importance.
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xfrodobagginsx
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A PRAYER OF SALVATION:

If you have any doubts about whether or not you are going to heaven, YOU COULD HUMBLY PRAY SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO GOD FROM YOUR HEART IN FAITH:

"Dear Lord Jesus I know that I am a sinner and need you to save me. I believe that You are the Lord and believe in my heart that You died on the Cross and Rose from the dead, shedding your blood as the Sacrifice for my sins. I turn to You as the only way of Salvation, I submit my life to you, I submit my will to yours, I place my Faith and Trust in You alone as Lord of my life, Please save me and I thank You for it, in Jesus holy name, Amen."

If you have truly placed your faith in Jesus Christ as your Lord, submitting your life to Him, you can know that you are a child of God and on your way to heaven. Now that you are on your way to heaven, you should attend a bible believing Church and follow in baptism.

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Coke Bear
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Oldbear83 said:

And yet again, you cherry-pick what you believe supports your opinion, and the rest is ignored.

For that, I feel sorry for you, as you miss much of importance.

Again, your post is a vague, amorphous sentence with no context.

I'll type slowly for you.

Cite. A. Specific. Belief.

I'm not cherry picking anything. I am believing what has been believed since the beginning of the Church, not what someone made up in the 1500's. Good luck with that.

I can date my beliefs to the Church fathers. Can you?
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Oldbear83
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So much arrogance in your post. And again, older does not mean better, much less flawless,or Christ would not have rebuked the Scribes and Pharisees.

Roman Catholics sin just as much as Protestants, but some RCs take great effort to pretend their hands are cleaner and they merit Heaven more than others
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Coke Bear
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Oldbear83 said:

So much arrogance in your post. And again, older does not mean better, much less flawless,or Christ would not have rebuked the Scribes and Pharisees.

Roman Catholics sin just as much as Protestants, but some RCs take great effort to pretend their hands are cleaner and they merit Heaven more than others

Please elaborate where Catholics "pretend that their hands are cleaner and they merit Heaven more than others."

I'm not a mind reader. If I were, I'd be at a poker table in Vegas.
Oldbear83
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Just read through your ripostes to non-RCC members here

Your tone sometimes reeks of Caiaphas.
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Coke Bear
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Oldbear83 said:

Just read through your ripostes to non-RCC members here

Your tone sometimes reeks of Caiaphas.

In other words, you can't. No worries. I can let your little jab go.

PS. You may claim that my posts contain arrogance, but it's because they are filled with the Truth of the Catholic Church. Maybe you can't handle the truth?

The truth hurts, but only for a bit.
Oldbear83
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Coke Bear said:

Oldbear83 said:

Just read through your ripostes to non-RCC members here

Your tone sometimes reeks of Caiaphas.

In other words, you can't. No worries. I can let your little jab go.

PS. You may claim that my posts contain arrogance, but it's because they are filled with the Truth of the Catholic Church. Maybe you can't handle the truth?

The truth hurts, but only for a bit.

I am choosing not to copy your unchristian tactics.

That is the relevant truth here.

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Oldbear83
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Coke Bear said:



I'll type slowly for you.



Just this shot from you, as an example. There is a spirit which moved you to choose those words, but it's not the Holy Spirit.
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