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Johnny Bear
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Osodecentx said:

muddybrazos said:



I would say firing squad but life in prison is fine. He signed the visas for the 9/11 hijackers to enter the country so there is that.
Firing squad? Life in prison?

What Brennan did was scurrilous, but what crime did he commit?

BTW, the 51 intelligence officials that signed a letter didn't exactly cover themselves with glory. But what they did was not a crime.

So deliberately committing fraud by knowingly lying in writing for the sole purpose of major election interference is nothing more than "not covering yourself with glory".

Wow. Just wow.
Doc Holliday
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Osodecentx said:

muddybrazos said:



I would say firing squad but life in prison is fine. He signed the visas for the 9/11 hijackers to enter the country so there is that.
Firing squad? Life in prison?

What Brennan did was scurrilous, but what crime did he commit?

BTW, the 51 intelligence officials that signed a letter didn't exactly cover themselves with glory. But what they did was not a crime.
It should be a crime. The damage they caused is catastrophic.
Sam Lowry
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It would be ironic for Brennan to go to prison for the disinformation letter, since it was one of the few instances where he didn't lie.
Osodecentx
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Johnny Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

muddybrazos said:



I would say firing squad but life in prison is fine. He signed the visas for the 9/11 hijackers to enter the country so there is that.
Firing squad? Life in prison?

What Brennan did was scurrilous, but what crime did he commit?

BTW, the 51 intelligence officials that signed a letter didn't exactly cover themselves with glory. But what they did was not a crime.

So deliberately committing fraud by knowingly lying in writing for the sole purpose of major election interference is nothing more than "not covering yourself with glory".

Wow. Just wow.
What he did was bad and a disqualification for future appointments to a responsible job in government.

What crime did he commit? Being unethical isn't a crime
Osodecentx
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Doc Holliday said:

Osodecentx said:

muddybrazos said:



I would say firing squad but life in prison is fine. He signed the visas for the 9/11 hijackers to enter the country so there is that.
Firing squad? Life in prison?

What Brennan did was scurrilous, but what crime did he commit?

BTW, the 51 intelligence officials that signed a letter didn't exactly cover themselves with glory. But what they did was not a crime.
It should be a crime. The damage they caused is catastrophic.
He caused a lot of damage and chaos. Brennan has not, to my knowledge, even admitted it.

Reminds me Harry Reid's false accusations against Romney. When asked about it later, he smiled and said "it worked"
riflebear
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The issue is these leaders know unless they murder someone on camera a DC grand jury or judge won't do anything to a liberal in leadership. They know they can get away with just about anything because the DC courts protect them.
muddybrazos
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Osodecentx said:

Johnny Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

muddybrazos said:



I would say firing squad but life in prison is fine. He signed the visas for the 9/11 hijackers to enter the country so there is that.
Firing squad? Life in prison?

What Brennan did was scurrilous, but what crime did he commit?

BTW, the 51 intelligence officials that signed a letter didn't exactly cover themselves with glory. But what they did was not a crime.

So deliberately committing fraud by knowingly lying in writing for the sole purpose of major election interference is nothing more than "not covering yourself with glory".

Wow. Just wow.
What he did was bad and a disqualification for future appointments to a responsible job in government.

What crime did he commit? Being unethical isn't a crime
He attempted a coup of a sitting president. Adam Schiff needs to be his cellmate.
Osodecentx
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muddybrazos said:

Osodecentx said:

Johnny Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

muddybrazos said:



I would say firing squad but life in prison is fine. He signed the visas for the 9/11 hijackers to enter the country so there is that.
Firing squad? Life in prison?

What Brennan did was scurrilous, but what crime did he commit?

BTW, the 51 intelligence officials that signed a letter didn't exactly cover themselves with glory. But what they did was not a crime.

So deliberately committing fraud by knowingly lying in writing for the sole purpose of major election interference is nothing more than "not covering yourself with glory".

Wow. Just wow.
What he did was bad and a disqualification for future appointments to a responsible job in government.

What crime did he commit? Being unethical isn't a crime
He attempted a coup of a sitting president. Adam Schiff needs to be his cellmate.
For what crime? Please be specific
riflebear
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Doc Holliday said:

Osodecentx said:

muddybrazos said:



I would say firing squad but life in prison is fine. He signed the visas for the 9/11 hijackers to enter the country so there is that.
Firing squad? Life in prison?

What Brennan did was scurrilous, but what crime did he commit?

BTW, the 51 intelligence officials that signed a letter didn't exactly cover themselves with glory. But what they did was not a crime.
It should be a crime. The damage they caused is catastrophic.


They doubled down and Brennan admitted it was political. They messed with the last 3 elections in one of the biggest ways imaginable.

What's also crazy is the FBI tweets they learned their lesson and have made all these changes. But we find out they were colluding with social media networks during the 2020 election and sat on the Hunter Laptop story/evidence for over a year and still are. They have destroyed the trust in our govt yet liberals cheer them on as long as they win.
Robert Wilson
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Banana Republic

Whoever is responsible for weaponizing and politicizing these major law enforcement / governmental institutions has sewn the seeds for the disintegration of this thing.

A substantial % of people no longer trust these institutions nor the mainstream media reports regarding them. The consequences will include disengagement by some from the political process (that's the easiest and most sensible thing to do for yourself, selfishly) and responsive bad behavior by others.

This is going to continue to get uglier. We are already sliding down the slope.
Jack Bauer
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Waco1947
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None of these failures is particularly surprising given the arc of Durham's investigation. When he began to wrap up in September, it was clear that he would be unable to live up to the right-wing hype. The only two cases that he brought to trial resulted in acquittals; the one guilty plea he obtained was of an FBI attorney for altering an email used to obtain a surveillance warrant for a Trump campaign adviser. But Durham still includes many of the allegations that the juries rejected, a move more likely to muddy the waters than provide clarity. MSNBC
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Redbrickbear
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Doc Holliday
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Waco1947 said:

None of these failures is particularly surprising given the arc of Durham's investigation. When he began to wrap up in September, it was clear that he would be unable to live up to the right-wing hype. The only two cases that he brought to trial resulted in acquittals; the one guilty plea he obtained was of an FBI attorney for altering an email used to obtain a surveillance warrant for a Trump campaign adviser. But Durham still includes many of the allegations that the juries rejected, a move more likely to muddy the waters than provide clarity. MSNBC
You are aware that Durham exposed that the FBI knowingly used falsified intel to launch their investigation into Trump and then subsequently lied about it and tried to cover it up? His report explicitly provides evidence to prove such.

If this isn't a big deal to you, then you can't be outraged if a republican ever weaponizes the FBI to do this to a democrat.
Forest Bueller_bf
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Cobretti said:

2017...


These worthless pieces of garbage continued this charade forever and knew all along it was a fabricated story.

They should be in jail.
Forest Bueller_bf
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riflebear said:

And all these corrupt liberals got book/tv deals/promotions with zero consequences.

Not to mention how much our govt waisted on this and follow up investigations and how much it divided the country.

Liberals will spin it and try to justify their corruption because they won.
Looking at the lefts reaction to this, you know they would have absolutely no problem with the storming of the Capital, if it were by them, to support their causes. It would have suddenly become a "just" rebellion against the oppressor. Seen it too many times.
Robert Wilson
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Forest Bueller_bf said:

riflebear said:

And all these corrupt liberals got book/tv deals/promotions with zero consequences.

Not to mention how much our govt waisted on this and follow up investigations and how much it divided the country.

Liberals will spin it and try to justify their corruption because they won.
Looking at the lefts reaction to this, you know they would have absolutely no problem with the storming of the Capital, if it were by them, to support their causes. It would have suddenly become a "just" rebellion against the oppressor. Seen it too many times.
Yep. Similar to what we saw during the covid riot summer. All sorts of destruction and violence either downplayed, supported, or outright encouraged by left wing politicians who believed (or at least found it convenient to say) these things were justified by police brutality against black Americans.
Forest Bueller_bf
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Johnny Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

muddybrazos said:



I would say firing squad but life in prison is fine. He signed the visas for the 9/11 hijackers to enter the country so there is that.
Firing squad? Life in prison?

What Brennan did was scurrilous, but what crime did he commit?

BTW, the 51 intelligence officials that signed a letter didn't exactly cover themselves with glory. But what they did was not a crime.

So deliberately committing fraud by knowingly lying in writing for the sole purpose of major election interference is nothing more than "not covering yourself with glory".

Wow. Just wow.
You don't understand. The end justifies the means. So it is always a "just" cause if it is their cause.
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Waco1947 said:

None of these failures is particularly surprising given the arc of Durham's investigation. When he began to wrap up in September, it was clear that he would be unable to live up to the right-wing hype. The only two cases that he brought to trial resulted in acquittals; the one guilty plea he obtained was of an FBI attorney for altering an email used to obtain a surveillance warrant for a Trump campaign adviser. But Durham still includes many of the allegations that the juries rejected, a move more likely to muddy the waters than provide clarity. MSNBC
Have you ever had an original thought?
EatMoreSalmon
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Osodecentx said:

muddybrazos said:

Osodecentx said:

Johnny Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

muddybrazos said:



I would say firing squad but life in prison is fine. He signed the visas for the 9/11 hijackers to enter the country so there is that.
Firing squad? Life in prison?

What Brennan did was scurrilous, but what crime did he commit?

BTW, the 51 intelligence officials that signed a letter didn't exactly cover themselves with glory. But what they did was not a crime.

So deliberately committing fraud by knowingly lying in writing for the sole purpose of major election interference is nothing more than "not covering yourself with glory".

Wow. Just wow.
What he did was bad and a disqualification for future appointments to a responsible job in government.

What crime did he commit? Being unethical isn't a crime
He attempted a coup of a sitting president. Adam Schiff needs to be his cellmate.
For what crime? Please be specific
If you or I were working together to get the FBI to investigate false information - a false report, if you will - would that not be a crime?
If I collude with my other neighbors to call the police on my next door neighbors that I don't like and want them to move, would I not be breaking the law for being part of a false report?
How is there not a crime here?
FLBear5630
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Wangchung said:

fubar said:

Forest Bueller_bf said:

So the list of those in on it seems to include, Clinton, Obama, Biden, and other luminaries including the FBI Director.

Trump was impeached over this garbage.
No, he wasn't.
Yes, he was. He "obstructed" the witch hunt. Now we know for sure that's all it was was a fake investigation meant to hurt Trump.


Can someone link the findings, not the snippets of text, but the findings, conclusions and recommendations? That is the meat of it. Who will be prosecuted, rightly so if found to break the law.
Redbrickbear
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Jack Bauer
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Redbrickbear said:


That's the laziest argument in DC.

This report is political but my report was NOT political!!!
Redbrickbear
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Jack Bauer said:

Redbrickbear said:


That's the laziest argument in DC.

This report is political but my report was NOT political!!!



Not to mention there is literally never any price to pay for Washington insiders.

[In August 2020, George Mason University announced McCabe would be joining the faculty of the Schar School of Policy and Government as distinguished visiting professor.

In October 2021, McCabe settled with the Justice Department a wrongful termination suit he had filed in August 2019. As part of the settlement, the government agreed to "rescind and vacate" McCabe's termination, correct its records "to reflect that Mr. McCabe was employed continuously by the FBI from July 1996 until he retired on March 19, 2018 as the FBI Deputy Director" in "good standing," restore his pension and other benefits, pay his legal fees and expunge any record of having been fired]

Its faculty positions and good Federal pensions for you even if you are a scumbag.
Osodecentx
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EatMoreSalmon said:

Osodecentx said:

muddybrazos said:

Osodecentx said:

Johnny Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

muddybrazos said:



I would say firing squad but life in prison is fine. He signed the visas for the 9/11 hijackers to enter the country so there is that.
Firing squad? Life in prison?

What Brennan did was scurrilous, but what crime did he commit?

BTW, the 51 intelligence officials that signed a letter didn't exactly cover themselves with glory. But what they did was not a crime.

So deliberately committing fraud by knowingly lying in writing for the sole purpose of major election interference is nothing more than "not covering yourself with glory".

Wow. Just wow.
What he did was bad and a disqualification for future appointments to a responsible job in government.

What crime did he commit? Being unethical isn't a crime
He attempted a coup of a sitting president. Adam Schiff needs to be his cellmate.
For what crime? Please be specific
If you or I were working together to get the FBI to investigate false information - a false report, if you will - would that not be a crime?
If I collude with my other neighbors to call the police on my next door neighbors that I don't like and want them to move, would I not be breaking the law for being part of a false report?
How is there not a crime here?
Maybe. Which crime? Give us a statute? It may be a crime, maybe not. It is certainly unethical at the least and the Russian hoax did a lot of damage.

Look, the point is some who call themselves conservative have been over promising and underdelivering since the days of "love her up". Some posters want the dearth penalty. My plea is to carefully choose your words and your threats.
Osodecentx
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The FBI Didn't Ignore Russian Intel on Hillary's Plan to Smear Trump It Abetted the Plan

The bureau expected Clinton to be the next president. So her Trump strategy became the FBI's Trump strategy.

Among the most troubling conclusions in special counsel John Durham's Russiagate report is that the FBI even as it relied on Clinton-campaign-funded opposition research against Donald Trump that it failed to verify ignored strongly supported intelligence that Hillary Clinton was intentionally smearing Trump as a Putin puppet.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/05/the-fbi-didnt-ignore-russian-intel-on-hillarys-plan-to-smear-trump-it-abetted-the-plan/
Doc Holliday
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Redbrickbear said:


Not many people realize that McCabe leaked that there was an investigation into HRC to the WSJ back in 2016. He obviously leaked so democrat media would circle the bandwagons against it.

He then lied to Comey, several FBI agents and the inspector general, denying he was the source of the leak. He also sent out emails to over 100 FBI personal demanding they find the leaker...even though he was the leaker.
Quote:

""The OIG found that then-Deputy Director Andrew McCabe lacked candor, including under oath, on multiple occasions in connection with describing his role in connection with a disclosure to the WSJ, and that this conduct violated FBI Offense Codes 2.5 and 2.6," the audit concluded"

That's how much of a POS he is.
ATL Bear
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They brought down a Presidency using inter-agency extra-judicial means. I can't stand that SOB Trump, but this is the type of unelected corruption of power that scares the hell out of me, and should everyone else.
Osodecentx
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ATL Bear said:

They brought down a Presidency using inter-agency extra-judicial means. I can't stand that SOB Trump, but this is the type of unelected corruption of power that scares the hell out of me, and should everyone else.
I'll stand there with you
Wangchung
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RMF5630 said:

Wangchung said:

fubar said:

Forest Bueller_bf said:

So the list of those in on it seems to include, Clinton, Obama, Biden, and other luminaries including the FBI Director.

Trump was impeached over this garbage.
No, he wasn't.
Yes, he was. He "obstructed" the witch hunt. Now we know for sure that's all it was was a fake investigation meant to hurt Trump.


Can someone link the findings, not the snippets of text, but the findings, conclusions and recommendations? That is the meat of it. Who will be prosecuted, rightly so if found to break the law.
The guy who pretends he hasn't been asked about Nick Sandman now wants more research done for him? No no, you funny little coward, you get nothing until you admit you were completely wrong in your claim that Fox is the only news media to have settled a lawsuit over defamation.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

EatMoreSalmon
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Osodecentx said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Osodecentx said:

muddybrazos said:

Osodecentx said:

Johnny Bear said:

Osodecentx said:

muddybrazos said:



I would say firing squad but life in prison is fine. He signed the visas for the 9/11 hijackers to enter the country so there is that.
Firing squad? Life in prison?

What Brennan did was scurrilous, but what crime did he commit?

BTW, the 51 intelligence officials that signed a letter didn't exactly cover themselves with glory. But what they did was not a crime.

So deliberately committing fraud by knowingly lying in writing for the sole purpose of major election interference is nothing more than "not covering yourself with glory".

Wow. Just wow.
What he did was bad and a disqualification for future appointments to a responsible job in government.

What crime did he commit? Being unethical isn't a crime
He attempted a coup of a sitting president. Adam Schiff needs to be his cellmate.
For what crime? Please be specific
If you or I were working together to get the FBI to investigate false information - a false report, if you will - would that not be a crime?
If I collude with my other neighbors to call the police on my next door neighbors that I don't like and want them to move, would I not be breaking the law for being part of a false report?
How is there not a crime here?
Maybe. Which crime? Give us a statute? It may be a crime, maybe not. It is certainly unethical at the least and the Russian hoax did a lot of damage.

Look, the point is some who call themselves conservative have been over promising and underdelivering since the days of "love her up". Some posters want the dearth penalty. My plea is to carefully choose your words and your threats.
Lying to the FBI

False statements in federal investigations

Using false documents, representations, or statement

Knowingly false accusations
riflebear
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Waco1947 said:

None of these failures is particularly surprising given the arc of Durham's investigation. When he began to wrap up in September, it was clear that he would be unable to live up to the right-wing hype. The only two cases that he brought to trial resulted in acquittals; the one guilty plea he obtained was of an FBI attorney for altering an email used to obtain a surveillance warrant for a Trump campaign adviser. But Durham still includes many of the allegations that the juries rejected, a move more likely to muddy the waters than provide clarity. MSNBC


What laws are on the books for a govt agency to lie and spy on a US President. very few. I don't think anyone saw that coming. Plus those who lied to the FISA court got a slap on their wrist and are now practicing laws shin in DC.

Again, with the DC judges and voting base there we've seen u can do anything u want with zero consequences. Because we all know if this was flipped there would be firings and hearings with jail time and hundreds of press on the door step of the GOP natl security adviser demanding he resign etc etc.

Quit watching msnbc and wake up. It was people like u who bought this story from the beginning and called everyone a conspiracy theorist for saying it wasn't true. Now that it was u say no big deal since no one was arrested. Must be nice to live in that world.
riflebear
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Forest Bueller_bf said:

riflebear said:

And all these corrupt liberals got book/tv deals/promotions with zero consequences.

Not to mention how much our govt waisted on this and follow up investigations and how much it divided the country.

Liberals will spin it and try to justify their corruption because they won.
Looking at the lefts reaction to this, you know they would have absolutely no problem with the storming of the Capital, if it were by them, to support their causes. It would have suddenly become a "just" rebellion against the oppressor. Seen it too many times.


Liberals on Jan 6:
Throw those unarmed nazis in jail and throw away the key. How dare they try to overthrow our govt by taking selfies after breaking a few windows.

GOP on Antifa & BLM
What about antics from BLM & Antifa burning down cities and property for their cause?

Liberals: Never heard of Antifa. That's a myth.
BLM is the only group allowed out of their homes during Covid lockdown to burn down cities.

Liberals on Russia Gate.
There is nothing wrong with intelligence agencies and the President VP Sec of State colluding with the heads of the FBI and CIA and media to alter a Presidential election by making up insane stories then when they lose continue to try and overthrow the govt from inside the walls lying to the people about what they are doing. Then when they are caught say nothing happened. We weren't arrested so it wasn't bad.
Malbec
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C. Jordan said:

So, we spent millions on this and all it yielded were 3 prosecutions (2 of which were acquitted and 1 of which pled to a minor offense), and the conclusion that neither Hillary Clinton nor any other major player committed a prosecutable offense and that the Trump-Russia investigation should never have been launched.

I thought this investigation was going to lead to lots of people going to jail, including Hillary.

Conclusion: There was no there there with the Trump-Russia probe and there was no there there with the Durham Probe.
You are simply not a serious person. The "rat****ing" that sent people to federal prison in Watergate was jaywalking compared to this; and with the full knowledge of the full brain-trust of the sitting Executive Branch.
BusyTarpDuster2017
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Crime or no crime, Trump should sue these people for libel. They made defamatory statements they knew were false, and did so with malice. And the cost needs to be substantial if there's gonna be any real accountability here, and for any hope of restoring trust in our government.
 
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