Why Are We in Ukraine?

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Zelensky needs to show some damn respect. We've gifted him billions of dollars.


lmao, no we didn't gift him anything according to Trump
The last administration did. We gotta get that money back, he's making threats.



I've told yall this several times, but both Russia and Ukraine are corrupt. Ukraine are not Americans, Europeans nor westerners.
Just to be clear, you don't think America is corrupt?

Biden ("the big guy"), the rest of the Dems, and most of the RINO's proved there is plenty of corruption in America. I'm not saying true republicans are pure as the driven snow. They are as human as everyone else. But mafia levels of corruption like we saw under Clinton, Obama, & especially Biden are the realm of so-called "Democrats". They are fascists.

The list of scandals and cover-ups by the Dems seems to be endless just in the past few years. Yet it has been going on for decades.
It's a good thing the founding fathers weren't corrupt. The slave farms had solid core values


Nice, trying to attack the Founding Fathers

You are a real Patriot

For the record

[The exact number of signers who owned slaves is disputed, but most estimates but the number at 17 of the 55 delegates]

So about 30%

So 70% of the Founding Father never owned a slave.

And the ones that did inherited a slave economy in existence long before they were born (one that long existed in West Africa)
I'm sorry that the literal truth hurts your feelings


Not at all

But unlike you I like to be accurate and state the real history

Nor to I attack great men of the past and call them corrupt
Are you saying you can't be a great man if you owned slaves?




And yes….George Washington and Thomas Jefferson remain great men…slaves or no slaves




Jefferson was….

A mediocre president at best.


I disagree




Produced by our diplomats in France and Napolean's need for cash.


Still….Presidents get to claim what our diplomats work on and what geo-political circumstances allow

A big win for TJ

One for the world history books!
TJ had so many loses it is hard to know where to begin.

He routinely raped his female slaves.
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Funny that we have gone down a TJ thread but it's possible he never has sex with his slave.

Entirely possible it was male relative.

Like all history….one narrative is more politically useful than another.





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You dreaming bro.

The evidence of his offspring produced by his rapes is overwhelming.
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KaiBear said:

You dreaming bro.

The evidence of his offspring produced by his rapes is overwhelming.


What's the evidence?

DNA connection to the Jefferson family?

Again read the links….very possible it was a male relative and not TJ himself
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Redbrickbear said:

KaiBear said:

You dreaming bro.

The evidence of his offspring produced by his rapes is overwhelming.


What's the evidence?

DNA connection to the Jefferson family?

Again read the links….very possible it was a male relative and not TJ himself
LOL

Have read many accounts of his life.

Even his white children knew about his slave relations.

The dude was born to money and lived the life of a spoiled brat.

Easily the most overrated president in US history.
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KaiBear said:

Redbrickbear said:

KaiBear said:

You dreaming bro.

The evidence of his offspring produced by his rapes is overwhelming.


What's the evidence?

DNA connection to the Jefferson family?

Again read the links….very possible it was a male relative and not TJ himself
LOL

Have read many accounts of his life.

Even his white children knew about his slave relations.

The dude was born to money and lived the life of a spoiled brat.

Easily the most overrated president in US history.


Got this one in my library

Again the sally story is far from provable

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KaiBear
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Redbrickbear said:

KaiBear said:

Redbrickbear said:

KaiBear said:

You dreaming bro.

The evidence of his offspring produced by his rapes is overwhelming.


What's the evidence?

DNA connection to the Jefferson family?

Again read the links….very possible it was a male relative and not TJ himself
LOL

Have read many accounts of his life.

Even his white children knew about his slave relations.

The dude was born to money and lived the life of a spoiled brat.

Easily the most overrated president in US history.


Got this one in my library

Again the sally story is far from provable


LOL

Then nothing is provable.


And I read this one as well.
Redbrickbear
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KaiBear said:

Redbrickbear said:

KaiBear said:

Redbrickbear said:

KaiBear said:

You dreaming bro.

The evidence of his offspring produced by his rapes is overwhelming.


What's the evidence?

DNA connection to the Jefferson family?

Again read the links….very possible it was a male relative and not TJ himself
LOL

Have read many accounts of his life.

Even his white children knew about his slave relations.

The dude was born to money and lived the life of a spoiled brat.

Easily the most overrated president in US history.


Got this one in my library

Again the sally story is far from provable


LOL

Then nothing is provable.


And I read this one as well.


Buddy there is a lot of things in life and history provable

But not this story you are strangely determined to believe

It might be true…it also might not

[A 1998-1999 DNA test found a match between a descendant of the Jefferson family and a descendant of Hemings' youngest son, Eston.]

That is all we know for sure


PS

[Jefferson's granddaughter, Ellen Randolph Coolidge, blamed Jefferson's nephew Samuel Carr for the paternity of Hemings' children]
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