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ATL : "Talk to your idiot candidate first"

And just who do you consider to be my 'idiot candidate'?


*******-mode is a poor choice for winning people over to your side. And yes, you need as many people as possible to win, and a lot more than you may think. That applies to anyone on the GOP side.

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The one you shill for consistently, that's who. And you can spare us the tears about people or party division from the sycophants of the scorched earth king.

You want to try and win the election? Stop backing someone who has no chance of winning, and is willing to burn the candidates and party if it doesn't happen for him. Reasoning with you and the other die hards has proven futile, so pointing out the inanity is all we're left with.

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But there is another problem RMF. If DeSantis wins the nomination, he still needs Trump's base to win.

Insulting those voters is well beyond stupid.

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The problem with you guys who look the other way when Trump acts like a horse's ass is y'all still suffer under the delusion that Trump can win. And you'll continue to look the other way until we get another 4 years of Biden.

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Strike One: I'm not rooting for Trump. I am only observing that the GOP can't win without his base voting for the nominee.

Stop posting piss-faced, it makes you look like a drunk moron.

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So don't criticize Trump for any reason whatsoever, no matter how despicable his behavior, for fear of pissing off his base, and let him continue to do lasting damage to the party.

Got it.

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Look what Trump just posted on Truth Social. 💀 pic.twitter.com/IQCLZISA1f

— SOVEREIGN BRAH 🇺🇸🏛️⚡️ (@sovereignbrah) May 25, 2023

lol, Trumps trolling of Rob Desanctus is great. His return to twitter is going to be glorious.

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Glorious? Nah. Only you MAGA types eat up his self-aggrandizing bull **** with a spoon. To most Americans he's buffoonish.

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Oh this election will be entertaining, for sure. From the feed of the Axios National Political Correspondent:

Don Jr. among others has shared this video.

I don’t think any of us are ready for this next election online.

pic.twitter.com/LJCNw16VvT

— Alex Thompson (@AlexThomp) May 27, 2023

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You thought that was entertaining?

Huh. Like I said, whatever floats you MAGA types boats…

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Lighten up, Francis. Yes, it was funny.

RDS needs to get a lot more active, with exactly the same kind of ridicule. It's not like Trump doesn't offer a lot of material for the same.

I've heard great things about the Desantis team, and I keep waiting for them to show us something. But frankly, I'm concerned. At this moment (and, yes, it is still early) Trump is pummeling him like Ali beating up on a Wepner doing a pretty bad imitation of rope-a-dope.

I could post more examples but it'd look like I'm trying to beat up on Desantis, which I'm not. EX: Stories all over the internet yesterday about the leak from a Desantis donor meeting, quoting that Desantis will run to the right of Trump in the primary then move to the middle. As an inside baseball analysis, nothing terribly unusual about that, as it happens to some degree in every campaign when the nominee changes messaging to appeal to the general election voter. But the context was dreadful. Desantis has lined up most of the donor class, including the Bushies. Again, one takes the support/funding one gets in a campaign. And one has to speak to the concerns of one's supporters (regardless what one plans to do or not). But as I've said many times here before = a GOP primary is a RINO hunt. The base is just looking looking looking hunting searching prodding to find a RINO. And Team Desantis lets him blunder into the trap.

These fumbles are indicative of something I've said before.......moving up from a Gov. race to a POTUS race is not just the next step up the ladder. It is a quantum leap. I still think (hope, actually) Desantis will get better, but right now, he's holding on to next rung on the ladder by a fingernail. He's GOT to get better or it will be over before it begins.

Net effect of all this? Team Trump may have denied Team Desantis the usual "bump" in support that occurs after formal announcement. We'll see numbers on that in 7-10 days, and can dissect the whys & wherefores then.

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Only a moron would describe it as funny or creative. It was stupid, juvenile humor that you MAGA types eat up with a spoon. It was no surprise that known dbag Trump Jr. posted it. He knows you bumpkins love that stuff. That's red meat to you yahoos.

I was hoping that the issues affecting our country would be debated this election cycle - adult issues. Lord knows we have plenty of them. But I guess we can expect Trump to continue to campaign to the lowest common denominator this election cycle. It's going to be the **** show you know and love. We are doomed.

Btw how many Trump trading cards have you purchased?

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If Desantis would post something funny, I'd laugh and post it here.

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I guess he needs to brush up on his 7th grade put downs for you.

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, Oldbear is on record as being perfectly fine and dandy with Trump and his minions mocking and attacking fellow Republican candidates

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Lying about me is poor debate, Mothra.

Did Hunter hijack your username? Because that post reads like you were on crack when you wrote it.

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Oh that's right. You don't endorse his despicable behavior. You just don't have the backbone to criticize his despicable behavior because…his base.

Such a coward.

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Ron

BTW Thee you left out the number of times each candidate is sued for sexual assault, or bribes. Trump is a tar baby for lawsuits.

I will not vote for Biden or Trump. I will write-in, or vote Libertarian, if Trump is the nominee

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Your vote for Biden is greatly appreciated by the left.

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This un-American trash has got to be spoken out against every time it happens. Just because you will vote for evil doesn't mean anyone else should. Shaming others for their votes is as old as the hills, but America only works as long as in some way we respect that our neighbors might think differently than us. We can cast one mean vote against them, but day to day we have to respect them and their choices.

To cast a vote you believe in, is never wasted, or a vote for a 3rd party. It is the essence of being free. Not bound to vote for 1 of 2 people, but whoever is most qualified. To speak our against that is to try to stifle that freedom. How many Trump lovers would love to remove our right to write a name in?

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We know you are too stupid to understand math. We've all known for a while. Socialists never do.

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I pleaded with posters here in 2022 that the abortion issue would kill our candidates. It did. Everyone who told me I was wrong never replied after the red wave collasped.

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Sorry I missed that. You were wrong.

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You do not believe that the anti-abortion card played by GOP candidates did not cost the GOP the promised Red Wave?

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No, I attribute that mostly to Trump and the unqualified candidates he endorsed.

My man is Cruz, has been since 2012.

So the rest of your rant missed the county, let alone the mark.

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Mothra said:

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, Oldbear is on record as being perfectly fine and dandy with Trump and his minions mocking and attacking fellow Republican candidates

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Lying about me is poor debate, Mothra.

Did Hunter hijack your username? Because that post reads like you were on crack when you wrote it.

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Oh that's right. You don't endorse his despicable behavior. You just don't have the backbone to criticize his despicable behavior because…his base.

Such a coward.

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So name-calling and lazy spite is OK when you do it, it's only bad when Trump does it.

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But there is another problem RMF. If DeSantis wins the nomination, he still needs Trump's base to win.

Insulting those voters is well beyond stupid.

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The problem with you guys who look the other way when Trump acts like a horse's ass is y'all still suffer under the delusion that Trump can win. And you'll continue to look the other way until we get another 4 years of Biden.

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Strike One: I'm not rooting for Trump. I am only observing that the GOP can't win without his base voting for the nominee.

Stop posting piss-faced, it makes you look like a drunk moron.

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So don't criticize Trump for any reason whatsoever, no matter how despicable his behavior, for fear of pissing off his base, and let him continue to do lasting damage to the party.

Got it.

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Prove you didn't remember what got you your degree, without saying so directly.

If you really did criticize Trump's behavior, I have no complaint. But we both know you never stop there.

Seriously, have someone with a stable emotional life read your posts, and see how they react. You could do to learn.

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Look what Trump just posted on Truth Social. 💀 pic.twitter.com/IQCLZISA1f

— SOVEREIGN BRAH 🇺🇸🏛️⚡️ (@sovereignbrah) May 25, 2023

lol, Trumps trolling of Rob Desanctus is great. His return to twitter is going to be glorious.

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Glorious? Nah. Only you MAGA types eat up his self-aggrandizing bull **** with a spoon. To most Americans he's buffoonish.

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Oh this election will be entertaining, for sure. From the feed of the Axios National Political Correspondent:

Don Jr. among others has shared this video.

I don’t think any of us are ready for this next election online.

pic.twitter.com/LJCNw16VvT

— Alex Thompson (@AlexThomp) May 27, 2023

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You thought that was entertaining?

Huh. Like I said, whatever floats you MAGA types boats…

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Lighten up, Francis. Yes, it was funny.

RDS needs to get a lot more active, with exactly the same kind of ridicule. It's not like Trump doesn't offer a lot of material for the same.

I've heard great things about the Desantis team, and I keep waiting for them to show us something. But frankly, I'm concerned. At this moment (and, yes, it is still early) Trump is pummeling him like Ali beating up on a Wepner doing a pretty bad imitation of rope-a-dope.

I could post more examples but it'd look like I'm trying to beat up on Desantis, which I'm not. EX: Stories all over the internet yesterday about the leak from a Desantis donor meeting, quoting that Desantis will run to the right of Trump in the primary then move to the middle. As an inside baseball analysis, nothing terribly unusual about that, as it happens to some degree in every campaign when the nominee changes messaging to appeal to the general election voter. But the context was dreadful. Desantis has lined up most of the donor class, including the Bushies. Again, one takes the support/funding one gets in a campaign. And one has to speak to the concerns of one's supporters (regardless what one plans to do or not). But as I've said many times here before = a GOP primary is a RINO hunt. The base is just looking looking looking hunting searching prodding to find a RINO. And Team Desantis lets him blunder into the trap.

These fumbles are indicative of something I've said before.......moving up from a Gov. race to a POTUS race is not just the next step up the ladder. It is a quantum leap. I still think (hope, actually) Desantis will get better, but right now, he's holding on to next rung on the ladder by a fingernail. He's GOT to get better or it will be over before it begins.

Net effect of all this? Team Trump may have denied Team Desantis the usual "bump" in support that occurs after formal announcement. We'll see numbers on that in 7-10 days, and can dissect the whys & wherefores then.

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Only a moron would describe it as funny or creative. It was stupid, juvenile humor that you MAGA types eat up with a spoon. It was no surprise that known dbag Trump Jr. posted it. He knows you bumpkins love that stuff. That's red meat to you yahoos.

I was hoping that the issues affecting our country would be debated this election cycle - adult issues. Lord knows we have plenty of them. But I guess we can expect Trump to continue to campaign to the lowest common denominator this election cycle. It's going to be the **** show you know and love. We are doomed.

Btw how many Trump trading cards have you purchased?

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If Desantis would post something funny, I'd laugh and post it here.

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I guess he needs to brush up on his 7th grade put downs for you.

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Half the electorate has below average intelligence......

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I guess he needs to brush up on his 7th grade put downs for you.

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Half the electorate has below average intelligence......

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It will never change until those Einsteins feel the pain financially. It's coming.

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, Oldbear is on record as being perfectly fine and dandy with Trump and his minions mocking and attacking fellow Republican candidates

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Lying about me is poor debate, Mothra.

Did Hunter hijack your username? Because that post reads like you were on crack when you wrote it.

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Oh that's right. You don't endorse his despicable behavior. You just don't have the backbone to criticize his despicable behavior because…his base.

Such a coward.

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So name-calling and lazy spite is OK when you do it, it's only bad when Trump does it.

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It's interesting that responding in like kind to ad hominems gets you so worked up. It's surprising that an educated man can't see the difference between the two.

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Look what Trump just posted on Truth Social. 💀 pic.twitter.com/IQCLZISA1f

— SOVEREIGN BRAH 🇺🇸🏛️⚡️ (@sovereignbrah) May 25, 2023

lol, Trumps trolling of Rob Desanctus is great. His return to twitter is going to be glorious.

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Glorious? Nah. Only you MAGA types eat up his self-aggrandizing bull **** with a spoon. To most Americans he's buffoonish.

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Oh this election will be entertaining, for sure. From the feed of the Axios National Political Correspondent:

Don Jr. among others has shared this video.

I don’t think any of us are ready for this next election online.

pic.twitter.com/LJCNw16VvT

— Alex Thompson (@AlexThomp) May 27, 2023

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You thought that was entertaining?

Huh. Like I said, whatever floats you MAGA types boats…

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Lighten up, Francis. Yes, it was funny.

RDS needs to get a lot more active, with exactly the same kind of ridicule. It's not like Trump doesn't offer a lot of material for the same.

I've heard great things about the Desantis team, and I keep waiting for them to show us something. But frankly, I'm concerned. At this moment (and, yes, it is still early) Trump is pummeling him like Ali beating up on a Wepner doing a pretty bad imitation of rope-a-dope.

I could post more examples but it'd look like I'm trying to beat up on Desantis, which I'm not. EX: Stories all over the internet yesterday about the leak from a Desantis donor meeting, quoting that Desantis will run to the right of Trump in the primary then move to the middle. As an inside baseball analysis, nothing terribly unusual about that, as it happens to some degree in every campaign when the nominee changes messaging to appeal to the general election voter. But the context was dreadful. Desantis has lined up most of the donor class, including the Bushies. Again, one takes the support/funding one gets in a campaign. And one has to speak to the concerns of one's supporters (regardless what one plans to do or not). But as I've said many times here before = a GOP primary is a RINO hunt. The base is just looking looking looking hunting searching prodding to find a RINO. And Team Desantis lets him blunder into the trap.

These fumbles are indicative of something I've said before.......moving up from a Gov. race to a POTUS race is not just the next step up the ladder. It is a quantum leap. I still think (hope, actually) Desantis will get better, but right now, he's holding on to next rung on the ladder by a fingernail. He's GOT to get better or it will be over before it begins.

Net effect of all this? Team Trump may have denied Team Desantis the usual "bump" in support that occurs after formal announcement. We'll see numbers on that in 7-10 days, and can dissect the whys & wherefores then.

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Only a moron would describe it as funny or creative. It was stupid, juvenile humor that you MAGA types eat up with a spoon. It was no surprise that known dbag Trump Jr. posted it. He knows you bumpkins love that stuff. That's red meat to you yahoos.

I was hoping that the issues affecting our country would be debated this election cycle - adult issues. Lord knows we have plenty of them. But I guess we can expect Trump to continue to campaign to the lowest common denominator this election cycle. It's going to be the **** show you know and love. We are doomed.

Btw how many Trump trading cards have you purchased?

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If Desantis would post something funny, I'd laugh and post it here.

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I guess he needs to brush up on his 7th grade put downs for you.

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Half the electorate has below average intelligence......

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So appeal to the lowest common denominator then?

What's your excuse?

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But there is another problem RMF. If DeSantis wins the nomination, he still needs Trump's base to win.

Insulting those voters is well beyond stupid.

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The problem with you guys who look the other way when Trump acts like a horse's ass is y'all still suffer under the delusion that Trump can win. And you'll continue to look the other way until we get another 4 years of Biden.

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Strike One: I'm not rooting for Trump. I am only observing that the GOP can't win without his base voting for the nominee.

Stop posting piss-faced, it makes you look like a drunk moron.

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So don't criticize Trump for any reason whatsoever, no matter how despicable his behavior, for fear of pissing off his base, and let him continue to do lasting damage to the party.

Got it.

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Prove you didn't remember what got you your degree, without saying so directly.

If you really did criticize Trump's behavior, I have no complaint. But we both know you never stop there.

Seriously, have someone with a stable emotional life read your posts, and see how they react. You could do to learn.

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For a guy that constantly posts ad hominems, and isn't very well liked on this board, there's a lot of irony in this post.

Your prove the old adage man is often times blind to his own faults.

[David French, incidentally, wrings his hands today in The New York Times, asking if Ron DeSantis is going to "destroy conservatism as we know it"?

Oh, bother. You know who destroyed conservatism as we knew it? George W. Bush and the Republican Party normies. (For more on this point, check out Tucker Carlson's landmark January 2016 Politico essay titled "Donald Trump Is Shocking, Vulgar And Right".) In today's essay, French, an old-school Republican in the George W. Bush vein, writes:

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This transformation was also tied to a change in the way that Republicans perceive government. Fusionists such as me read the Declaration of Independence and reaffirm that governments are instituted for the purpose of securing our "unalienable rights." Thus, the protection of liberty is an indispensable aspect of American government.
By contrast, the nationalist conservative movement that Trump has helped bring center stage has different priorities. In its view, the right should to cite the words of David Azerrad, a professor at Hillsdale College use the power of government to "reward friends and punish enemies (within the confines of the rule of law)." In an excellent 2022 piece, Philip Klein, the editor of National Review Online, called this "fight club" conservatism and raised the obvious alarm. Any government strong enough to reward friends and punish enemies is also strong enough to do the reverse, to wield the same power to punish you and to reward your opponents. The legal instruments you create to combat your foes can just as easily be turned to attack you.

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]- Rod Dreher

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Look what Trump just posted on Truth Social. 💀 pic.twitter.com/IQCLZISA1f

— SOVEREIGN BRAH 🇺🇸🏛️⚡️ (@sovereignbrah) May 25, 2023

lol, Trumps trolling of Rob Desanctus is great. His return to twitter is going to be glorious.

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Glorious? Nah. Only you MAGA types eat up his self-aggrandizing bull **** with a spoon. To most Americans he's buffoonish.

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Oh this election will be entertaining, for sure. From the feed of the Axios National Political Correspondent:

Don Jr. among others has shared this video.

I don’t think any of us are ready for this next election online.

pic.twitter.com/LJCNw16VvT

— Alex Thompson (@AlexThomp) May 27, 2023

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You thought that was entertaining?

Huh. Like I said, whatever floats you MAGA types boats…

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Lighten up, Francis. Yes, it was funny.

RDS needs to get a lot more active, with exactly the same kind of ridicule. It's not like Trump doesn't offer a lot of material for the same.

I've heard great things about the Desantis team, and I keep waiting for them to show us something. But frankly, I'm concerned. At this moment (and, yes, it is still early) Trump is pummeling him like Ali beating up on a Wepner doing a pretty bad imitation of rope-a-dope.

I could post more examples but it'd look like I'm trying to beat up on Desantis, which I'm not. EX: Stories all over the internet yesterday about the leak from a Desantis donor meeting, quoting that Desantis will run to the right of Trump in the primary then move to the middle. As an inside baseball analysis, nothing terribly unusual about that, as it happens to some degree in every campaign when the nominee changes messaging to appeal to the general election voter. But the context was dreadful. Desantis has lined up most of the donor class, including the Bushies. Again, one takes the support/funding one gets in a campaign. And one has to speak to the concerns of one's supporters (regardless what one plans to do or not). But as I've said many times here before = a GOP primary is a RINO hunt. The base is just looking looking looking hunting searching prodding to find a RINO. And Team Desantis lets him blunder into the trap.

These fumbles are indicative of something I've said before.......moving up from a Gov. race to a POTUS race is not just the next step up the ladder. It is a quantum leap. I still think (hope, actually) Desantis will get better, but right now, he's holding on to next rung on the ladder by a fingernail. He's GOT to get better or it will be over before it begins.

Net effect of all this? Team Trump may have denied Team Desantis the usual "bump" in support that occurs after formal announcement. We'll see numbers on that in 7-10 days, and can dissect the whys & wherefores then.

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Only a moron would describe it as funny or creative. It was stupid, juvenile humor that you MAGA types eat up with a spoon. It was no surprise that known dbag Trump Jr. posted it. He knows you bumpkins love that stuff. That's red meat to you yahoos.

I was hoping that the issues affecting our country would be debated this election cycle - adult issues. Lord knows we have plenty of them. But I guess we can expect Trump to continue to campaign to the lowest common denominator this election cycle. It's going to be the **** show you know and love. We are doomed.

Btw how many Trump trading cards have you purchased?

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If Desantis would post something funny, I'd laugh and post it here.

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I guess he needs to brush up on his 7th grade put downs for you.

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Half the electorate has below average intelligence......

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So appeal to the lowest common denominator then?

What's your excuse?

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They vote!

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[David French, incidentally, wrings his hands today in The New York Times, asking if Ron DeSantis is going to "destroy conservatism as we know it"?

Oh, bother. You know who destroyed conservatism as we knew it? George W. Bush and the Republican Party normies. (For more on this point, check out Tucker Carlson's landmark January 2016 Politico essay titled "Donald Trump Is Shocking, Vulgar And Right".) In today's essay, French, an old-school Republican in the George W. Bush vein, writes:

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This transformation was also tied to a change in the way that Republicans perceive government. Fusionists such as me read the Declaration of Independence and reaffirm that governments are instituted for the purpose of securing our "unalienable rights." Thus, the protection of liberty is an indispensable aspect of American government.
By contrast, the nationalist conservative movement that Trump has helped bring center stage has different priorities. In its view, the right should to cite the words of David Azerrad, a professor at Hillsdale College use the power of government to "reward friends and punish enemies (within the confines of the rule of law)." In an excellent 2022 piece, Philip Klein, the editor of National Review Online, called this "fight club" conservatism and raised the obvious alarm. Any government strong enough to reward friends and punish enemies is also strong enough to do the reverse, to wield the same power to punish you and to reward your opponents. The legal instruments you create to combat your foes can just as easily be turned to attack you.

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]- Rod Dreher

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Right about what? I have not heard Trump talk policy in years. I have seen clever tweets, making fun of people, and attacking people. But does he have a platform? Does he have any details on anything besides saying everyone else is wrong?

Funny, he used to say he was a counter-puncher on attacks, that is not what he is showing. What is his platform?

Being late to declare (for understandable reasons) has hurt Desantis.

He is playing tough on the inside game, though. That will help.

One more actually because it is relevant.

We have two farmers in Iowa who are part of our focus group. One is an Obama/Trump/Trump voter and the other an Obama/Trump/Biden voter, both of whom were leaning DeSantis in December 2022.

No more. They never heard from him. Now it's… https://t.co/qKcHClSzR8

— Rich Baris "The People's Pundit" (@Peoples_Pundit) May 30, 2023

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But there is another problem RMF. If DeSantis wins the nomination, he still needs Trump's base to win.

Insulting those voters is well beyond stupid.

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The problem with you guys who look the other way when Trump acts like a horse's ass is y'all still suffer under the delusion that Trump can win. And you'll continue to look the other way until we get another 4 years of Biden.

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Strike One: I'm not rooting for Trump. I am only observing that the GOP can't win without his base voting for the nominee.

Stop posting piss-faced, it makes you look like a drunk moron.

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So don't criticize Trump for any reason whatsoever, no matter how despicable his behavior, for fear of pissing off his base, and let him continue to do lasting damage to the party.

Got it.

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Prove you didn't remember what got you your degree, without saying so directly.

If you really did criticize Trump's behavior, I have no complaint. But we both know you never stop there.

Seriously, have someone with a stable emotional life read your posts, and see how they react. You could do to learn.

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For a guy that constantly posts ad hominems, and isn't very well liked on this board, there's a lot of irony in this post.

Your prove the old adage man is often times blind to his own faults.

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I did notice

A) You seem to really enjoy tossing off empty, venal insults. If you had any moral argument against my posts, you threw it away by your own conduct.

B) nothing you said disproved my point in the slightest. You are so anti-Trump that you are now going after people not for supporting him, but for raising issues about the topic.

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Look what Trump just posted on Truth Social. 💀 pic.twitter.com/IQCLZISA1f

— SOVEREIGN BRAH 🇺🇸🏛️⚡️ (@sovereignbrah) May 25, 2023

lol, Trumps trolling of Rob Desanctus is great. His return to twitter is going to be glorious.

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Glorious? Nah. Only you MAGA types eat up his self-aggrandizing bull **** with a spoon. To most Americans he's buffoonish.

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Oh this election will be entertaining, for sure. From the feed of the Axios National Political Correspondent:

Don Jr. among others has shared this video.

I don’t think any of us are ready for this next election online.

pic.twitter.com/LJCNw16VvT

— Alex Thompson (@AlexThomp) May 27, 2023

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You thought that was entertaining?

Huh. Like I said, whatever floats you MAGA types boats…

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Lighten up, Francis. Yes, it was funny.

RDS needs to get a lot more active, with exactly the same kind of ridicule. It's not like Trump doesn't offer a lot of material for the same.

I've heard great things about the Desantis team, and I keep waiting for them to show us something. But frankly, I'm concerned. At this moment (and, yes, it is still early) Trump is pummeling him like Ali beating up on a Wepner doing a pretty bad imitation of rope-a-dope.

I could post more examples but it'd look like I'm trying to beat up on Desantis, which I'm not. EX: Stories all over the internet yesterday about the leak from a Desantis donor meeting, quoting that Desantis will run to the right of Trump in the primary then move to the middle. As an inside baseball analysis, nothing terribly unusual about that, as it happens to some degree in every campaign when the nominee changes messaging to appeal to the general election voter. But the context was dreadful. Desantis has lined up most of the donor class, including the Bushies. Again, one takes the support/funding one gets in a campaign. And one has to speak to the concerns of one's supporters (regardless what one plans to do or not). But as I've said many times here before = a GOP primary is a RINO hunt. The base is just looking looking looking hunting searching prodding to find a RINO. And Team Desantis lets him blunder into the trap.

These fumbles are indicative of something I've said before.......moving up from a Gov. race to a POTUS race is not just the next step up the ladder. It is a quantum leap. I still think (hope, actually) Desantis will get better, but right now, he's holding on to next rung on the ladder by a fingernail. He's GOT to get better or it will be over before it begins.

Net effect of all this? Team Trump may have denied Team Desantis the usual "bump" in support that occurs after formal announcement. We'll see numbers on that in 7-10 days, and can dissect the whys & wherefores then.

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Only a moron would describe it as funny or creative. It was stupid, juvenile humor that you MAGA types eat up with a spoon. It was no surprise that known dbag Trump Jr. posted it. He knows you bumpkins love that stuff. That's red meat to you yahoos.

I was hoping that the issues affecting our country would be debated this election cycle - adult issues. Lord knows we have plenty of them. But I guess we can expect Trump to continue to campaign to the lowest common denominator this election cycle. It's going to be the **** show you know and love. We are doomed.

Btw how many Trump trading cards have you purchased?

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If Desantis would post something funny, I'd laugh and post it here.

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I guess he needs to brush up on his 7th grade put downs for you.

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Half the electorate has below average intelligence......

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So appeal to the lowest common denominator then?

What's your excuse?

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They vote!

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So let's appeal to their basest desires, then. That seems like a sure fire way to lose Trump another election.

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But there is another problem RMF. If DeSantis wins the nomination, he still needs Trump's base to win.

Insulting those voters is well beyond stupid.

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The problem with you guys who look the other way when Trump acts like a horse's ass is y'all still suffer under the delusion that Trump can win. And you'll continue to look the other way until we get another 4 years of Biden.

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Strike One: I'm not rooting for Trump. I am only observing that the GOP can't win without his base voting for the nominee.

Stop posting piss-faced, it makes you look like a drunk moron.

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So don't criticize Trump for any reason whatsoever, no matter how despicable his behavior, for fear of pissing off his base, and let him continue to do lasting damage to the party.

Got it.

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Prove you didn't remember what got you your degree, without saying so directly.

If you really did criticize Trump's behavior, I have no complaint. But we both know you never stop there.

Seriously, have someone with a stable emotional life read your posts, and see how they react. You could do to learn.

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For a guy that constantly posts ad hominems, and isn't very well liked on this board, there's a lot of irony in this post.

Your prove the old adage man is often times blind to his own faults.

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I did notice

A) You seem to really enjoy tossing off empty, venal insults. If you had any moral argument against my posts, you threw it away by your own conduct.

B) nothing you said disproved my point in the slightest. You are so anti-Trump that you are now going after people not for supporting him, but for raising issues about the topic.

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A) Pot, meet kettle.

B) With all due respect, most of your points are terrible. This one is no different. You're cool with base attacks on Republicans not named Trump, but God forbid if someone responds in like kind.

When we choose cowardice over what's right, that is a problem.

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Oldbear83 said:

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But there is another problem RMF. If DeSantis wins the nomination, he still needs Trump's base to win.

Insulting those voters is well beyond stupid.

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The problem with you guys who look the other way when Trump acts like a horse's ass is y'all still suffer under the delusion that Trump can win. And you'll continue to look the other way until we get another 4 years of Biden.

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Strike One: I'm not rooting for Trump. I am only observing that the GOP can't win without his base voting for the nominee.

Stop posting piss-faced, it makes you look like a drunk moron.

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So don't criticize Trump for any reason whatsoever, no matter how despicable his behavior, for fear of pissing off his base, and let him continue to do lasting damage to the party.

Got it.

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Prove you didn't remember what got you your degree, without saying so directly.

If you really did criticize Trump's behavior, I have no complaint. But we both know you never stop there.

Seriously, have someone with a stable emotional life read your posts, and see how they react. You could do to learn.

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For a guy that constantly posts ad hominems, and isn't very well liked on this board, there's a lot of irony in this post.

Your prove the old adage man is often times blind to his own faults.

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I did notice

A) You seem to really enjoy tossing off empty, venal insults. If you had any moral argument against my posts, you threw it away by your own conduct.

B) nothing you said disproved my point in the slightest. You are so anti-Trump that you are now going after people not for supporting him, but for raising issues about the topic.

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A) Pot, meet kettle.

B) With all due respect, most of your points are terrible. This one is no different. You're cool with base attacks on Republicans not named Trump, but God forbid if someone responds in like kind.

When we choose cowardice over what's right, that is a problem.

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Well, at least you are being consistent now. More insults, no cogent point, and an amazing amount of hubris.

Waco, is that you?

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Oldbear83 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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But there is another problem RMF. If DeSantis wins the nomination, he still needs Trump's base to win.

Insulting those voters is well beyond stupid.

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The problem with you guys who look the other way when Trump acts like a horse's ass is y'all still suffer under the delusion that Trump can win. And you'll continue to look the other way until we get another 4 years of Biden.

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Strike One: I'm not rooting for Trump. I am only observing that the GOP can't win without his base voting for the nominee.

Stop posting piss-faced, it makes you look like a drunk moron.

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So don't criticize Trump for any reason whatsoever, no matter how despicable his behavior, for fear of pissing off his base, and let him continue to do lasting damage to the party.

Got it.

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Prove you didn't remember what got you your degree, without saying so directly.

If you really did criticize Trump's behavior, I have no complaint. But we both know you never stop there.

Seriously, have someone with a stable emotional life read your posts, and see how they react. You could do to learn.

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For a guy that constantly posts ad hominems, and isn't very well liked on this board, there's a lot of irony in this post.

Your prove the old adage man is often times blind to his own faults.

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I did notice

A) You seem to really enjoy tossing off empty, venal insults. If you had any moral argument against my posts, you threw it away by your own conduct.

B) nothing you said disproved my point in the slightest. You are so anti-Trump that you are now going after people not for supporting him, but for raising issues about the topic.

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A) Pot, meet kettle.

B) With all due respect, most of your points are terrible. This one is no different. You're cool with base attacks on Republicans not named Trump, but God forbid if someone responds in like kind.

When we choose cowardice over what's right, that is a problem.

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Well, at least you are being consistent now. More insults, no cogent point, and an amazing amount of hubris.

Waco, is that you?

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And your irony continues...

Waco, is that you?

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Mothra said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Mothra said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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But there is another problem RMF. If DeSantis wins the nomination, he still needs Trump's base to win.

Insulting those voters is well beyond stupid.

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The problem with you guys who look the other way when Trump acts like a horse's ass is y'all still suffer under the delusion that Trump can win. And you'll continue to look the other way until we get another 4 years of Biden.

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Strike One: I'm not rooting for Trump. I am only observing that the GOP can't win without his base voting for the nominee.

Stop posting piss-faced, it makes you look like a drunk moron.

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So don't criticize Trump for any reason whatsoever, no matter how despicable his behavior, for fear of pissing off his base, and let him continue to do lasting damage to the party.

Got it.

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Prove you didn't remember what got you your degree, without saying so directly.

If you really did criticize Trump's behavior, I have no complaint. But we both know you never stop there.

Seriously, have someone with a stable emotional life read your posts, and see how they react. You could do to learn.

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For a guy that constantly posts ad hominems, and isn't very well liked on this board, there's a lot of irony in this post.

Your prove the old adage man is often times blind to his own faults.

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I did notice

A) You seem to really enjoy tossing off empty, venal insults. If you had any moral argument against my posts, you threw it away by your own conduct.

B) nothing you said disproved my point in the slightest. You are so anti-Trump that you are now going after people not for supporting him, but for raising issues about the topic.

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A) Pot, meet kettle.

B) With all due respect, most of your points are terrible. This one is no different. You're cool with base attacks on Republicans not named Trump, but God forbid if someone responds in like kind.

When we choose cowardice over what's right, that is a problem.

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Well, at least you are being consistent now. More insults, no cogent point, and an amazing amount of hubris.

Waco, is that you?

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And your irony continues...

Waco, is that you?

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Awwww, imitation now.

But stop for a moment Mothra and try to take this question seriously.:

What happens if you can't win over Trump's base?

I don't care who wins the GOP nomination as long as Biden gets beaten, but Trump can't do it just with his base, and the Trump haters better understand they need those 30 million or so Trump voters.

I think DeSantis has done a good job so far with his arguments, although I still prefer Cruz (yes, I know he is not running and prolly won't). But the sniping is not healthy or smart.

Care to give a serious answer?

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Oldbear83 said:

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Mothra said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Mothra said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Mothra said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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But there is another problem RMF. If DeSantis wins the nomination, he still needs Trump's base to win.

Insulting those voters is well beyond stupid.

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The problem with you guys who look the other way when Trump acts like a horse's ass is y'all still suffer under the delusion that Trump can win. And you'll continue to look the other way until we get another 4 years of Biden.

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Strike One: I'm not rooting for Trump. I am only observing that the GOP can't win without his base voting for the nominee.

Stop posting piss-faced, it makes you look like a drunk moron.

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So don't criticize Trump for any reason whatsoever, no matter how despicable his behavior, for fear of pissing off his base, and let him continue to do lasting damage to the party.

Got it.

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Prove you didn't remember what got you your degree, without saying so directly.

If you really did criticize Trump's behavior, I have no complaint. But we both know you never stop there.

Seriously, have someone with a stable emotional life read your posts, and see how they react. You could do to learn.

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For a guy that constantly posts ad hominems, and isn't very well liked on this board, there's a lot of irony in this post.

Your prove the old adage man is often times blind to his own faults.

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I did notice

A) You seem to really enjoy tossing off empty, venal insults. If you had any moral argument against my posts, you threw it away by your own conduct.

B) nothing you said disproved my point in the slightest. You are so anti-Trump that you are now going after people not for supporting him, but for raising issues about the topic.

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A) Pot, meet kettle.

B) With all due respect, most of your points are terrible. This one is no different. You're cool with base attacks on Republicans not named Trump, but God forbid if someone responds in like kind.

When we choose cowardice over what's right, that is a problem.

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Well, at least you are being consistent now. More insults, no cogent point, and an amazing amount of hubris.

Waco, is that you?

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And your irony continues...

Waco, is that you?

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Awwww, imitation now.

But stop for a moment Mothra and try to take this question seriously.:

What happens if you can't win over Trump's base?

I don't care who wins the GOP nomination as long as Biden gets beaten, but Trump can't do it just with his base, and the Trump haters better understand they need those 30 million or so Trump voters.

I think DeSantis has done a good job so far with his arguments, although I still prefer Cruz (yes, I know he is not running and prolly won't). But the sniping is not healthy or smart.

Care to give a serious answer?

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Are you saying that Trump and his minions' sniping is likewise not smart? Or does that rule only apply to Republicans other than Trump?

If it's across the board, then we agree. However, I don't have a problem fighting fire with fire. Sometimes you have to pop the bully in the nose.

I don't believe Trump can win, but I think it's likely he's the nominee. That being the case, I am not sure there's much of anything to be gained from not offending Trump's sycophants.

"I don't believe Trump can win, but I think it's likely he's the nominee."

First, I don't like Trump's behavior this season, but it does not excuse the same crap in return.

Second, I think the Republican nominee can win, but we all need to stand behind whoever that is. Anything else would be hurting the country out of spite.

That brings us to how to win over Trump's base if he is not the nominee, and how to get a better Trump if he is the nominee.

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"I don't believe Trump can win, but I think it's likely he's the nominee."

First, I don't like Trump's behavior this season, but it does not excuse the same crap in return.

Second, I think the Republican nominee can win, but we all need to stand behind whoever that is. Anything else would be hurting the country out of spite.

That brings us to how to win over Trump's base if he is not the nominee, and how to get a better Trump if he is the nominee.

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Who could possibly behave publically as bad as Trump other than MTG or the wacko up in Colorado?

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"I don't believe Trump can win, but I think it's likely he's the nominee."

First, I don't like Trump's behavior this season, but it does not excuse the same crap in return.

Second, I think the Republican nominee can win, but we all need to stand behind whoever that is. Anything else would be hurting the country out of spite.

That brings us to how to win over Trump's base if he is not the nominee, and how to get a better Trump if he is the nominee.

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Who could possibly behave publically as bad as Trump other than MTG or the wacko up in Colorado?

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Only a fool willingly makes himself blind.

"He's a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren't captured".About McCain, coming from a draft dodger.

"You could see blood coming out of her wherever" re; Megyn Kelly

Mocking Serge Kovaleski.

The purpose of my retort to you was to simply say those you dislike (AOC, Warren, Biden) never ever make such stupid insults but they apparently appeal to a lot of people with similar beliefs.

He lost his re-election because of his big mouth.

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"He's a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren't captured".About McCain, coming from a draft dodger.

"You could see blood coming out of her wherever" re; Megyn Kelly

Mocking Serge Kovaleski.

The purpose of my retort to you was to simply say those you dislike (AOC, Warren, Biden) never ever make such stupid insults but they apparently appeal to a lot of people with similar beliefs.

He lost his re-election because of his big mouth.

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I see you are still ducking the point, Daffy.

But from your posts, Alice, you read like a Biden fanboy anyway.

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"He's a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren't captured".About McCain, coming from a draft dodger.

"You could see blood coming out of her wherever" re; Megyn Kelly

Mocking Serge Kovaleski.

The purpose of my retort to you was to simply say those you dislike (AOC, Warren, Biden) never ever make such stupid insults but they apparently appeal to a lot of people with similar beliefs.

He lost his re-election because of his big mouth.

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"RACIST!!!!"

The other side is even worse. It's politics. Get tougher.

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"He's a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren't captured".About McCain, coming from a draft dodger.

"You could see blood coming out of her wherever" re; Megyn Kelly

Mocking Serge Kovaleski.

The purpose of my retort to you was to simply say those you dislike (AOC, Warren, Biden) never ever make such stupid insults but they apparently appeal to a lot of people with similar beliefs.

He lost his re-election because of his big mouth.

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"RACIST!!!!"

The other side is even worse. It's politics. Get tougher.

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Perhaps, but they don't come across as 7th grade schoolyard bullies when they do it. You don't typically hear the Dems attacking a Republican's looks or weight. While you are correct they will play the race card, you don't typically hear them making fun of a Republican's name or heritage. You don't typically hear then attacking the looks of Republican's' spouses or questioning the patriotism of their parents. And one thing you never hear them engage in is scathing attacks on each other. They don't shoot members of their own team.

I'm other words, they're not like Trump.

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Look what Trump just posted on Truth Social. 💀 pic.twitter.com/IQCLZISA1f

— SOVEREIGN BRAH 🇺🇸🏛️⚡️ (@sovereignbrah) May 25, 2023

lol, Trumps trolling of Rob Desanctus is great. His return to twitter is going to be glorious.

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Glorious? Nah. Only you MAGA types eat up his self-aggrandizing bull **** with a spoon. To most Americans he's buffoonish.

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Oh this election will be entertaining, for sure. From the feed of the Axios National Political Correspondent:

Don Jr. among others has shared this video.

I don’t think any of us are ready for this next election online.

pic.twitter.com/LJCNw16VvT

— Alex Thompson (@AlexThomp) May 27, 2023

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You thought that was entertaining?

Huh. Like I said, whatever floats you MAGA types boats…

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Lighten up, Francis. Yes, it was funny.

RDS needs to get a lot more active, with exactly the same kind of ridicule. It's not like Trump doesn't offer a lot of material for the same.

I've heard great things about the Desantis team, and I keep waiting for them to show us something. But frankly, I'm concerned. At this moment (and, yes, it is still early) Trump is pummeling him like Ali beating up on a Wepner doing a pretty bad imitation of rope-a-dope.

I could post more examples but it'd look like I'm trying to beat up on Desantis, which I'm not. EX: Stories all over the internet yesterday about the leak from a Desantis donor meeting, quoting that Desantis will run to the right of Trump in the primary then move to the middle. As an inside baseball analysis, nothing terribly unusual about that, as it happens to some degree in every campaign when the nominee changes messaging to appeal to the general election voter. But the context was dreadful. Desantis has lined up most of the donor class, including the Bushies. Again, one takes the support/funding one gets in a campaign. And one has to speak to the concerns of one's supporters (regardless what one plans to do or not). But as I've said many times here before = a GOP primary is a RINO hunt. The base is just looking looking looking hunting searching prodding to find a RINO. And Team Desantis lets him blunder into the trap.

These fumbles are indicative of something I've said before.......moving up from a Gov. race to a POTUS race is not just the next step up the ladder. It is a quantum leap. I still think (hope, actually) Desantis will get better, but right now, he's holding on to next rung on the ladder by a fingernail. He's GOT to get better or it will be over before it begins.

Net effect of all this? Team Trump may have denied Team Desantis the usual "bump" in support that occurs after formal announcement. We'll see numbers on that in 7-10 days, and can dissect the whys & wherefores then.

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Only a moron would describe it as funny or creative. It was stupid, juvenile humor that you MAGA types eat up with a spoon. It was no surprise that known dbag Trump Jr. posted it. He knows you bumpkins love that stuff. That's red meat to you yahoos.

I was hoping that the issues affecting our country would be debated this election cycle - adult issues. Lord knows we have plenty of them. But I guess we can expect Trump to continue to campaign to the lowest common denominator this election cycle. It's going to be the **** show you know and love. We are doomed.

Btw how many Trump trading cards have you purchased?

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If Desantis would post something funny, I'd laugh and post it here.

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I guess he needs to brush up on his 7th grade put downs for you.

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I'd been told that "The Office" was funny. That mashup makes me want to see it.

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"He's a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren't captured".About McCain, coming from a draft dodger.

"You could see blood coming out of her wherever" re; Megyn Kelly

Mocking Serge Kovaleski.

The purpose of my retort to you was to simply say those you dislike (AOC, Warren, Biden) never ever make such stupid insults but they apparently appeal to a lot of people with similar beliefs.

He lost his re-election because of his big mouth.

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"RACIST!!!!"

The other side is even worse. It's politics. Get tougher.

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Perhaps, but they don't come across as 7th grade schoolyard bullies when they do it. You don't typically hear the Dems attacking a Republican's looks or weight. While you are correct they will play the race card, you don't typically hear them making fun of a Republican's name or heritage. You don't typically hear then attacking the looks of Republican's' spouses or questioning the patriotism of their parents. And one thing you never hear them engage in is scathing attacks on each other. They don't shoot members of their own team.

I'm other words, they're not like Trump.

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I'm confident that if Trump loses in primary, he will try to burn it down instead of build up the Republican winner.

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"He's a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren't captured".About McCain, coming from a draft dodger.

"You could see blood coming out of her wherever" re; Megyn Kelly

Mocking Serge Kovaleski.

The purpose of my retort to you was to simply say those you dislike (AOC, Warren, Biden) never ever make such stupid insults but they apparently appeal to a lot of people with similar beliefs.

He lost his re-election because of his big mouth.

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"RACIST!!!!"

The other side is even worse. It's politics. Get tougher.

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Perhaps, but they don't come across as 7th grade schoolyard bullies when they do it. You don't typically hear the Dems attacking a Republican's looks or weight. While you are correct they will play the race card, you don't typically hear them making fun of a Republican's name or heritage. You don't typically hear then attacking the looks of Republican's' spouses or questioning the patriotism of their parents. And one thing you never hear them engage in is scathing attacks on each other. They don't shoot members of their own team.

I'm other words, they're not like Trump.

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or you.