Ron & Don - Who is More Impressive?

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If all one talks about is electability and the polling turns in the wrong direction…..

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In reply to muddybrazos • 2:27p, 5/27/23
muddybrazos said:


lol, Trumps trolling of Rob Desanctus is great. His return to twitter is going to be glorious.


Glorious? Nah. Only you MAGA types eat up his self-aggrandizing bull **** with a spoon. To most Americans he's buffoonish.
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In reply to BluesBear • 2:30p, 5/27/23
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Ron is s WEF stooge... Do your research....that military service was hiding in some backroom....find me someone else..


Spoken like a true MAGA loving dumbass.
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In reply to BluesBear • 2:38p, 5/27/23
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sombear said:
BluesBear said:
Ron is s WEF stooge... Do your research....that military service was hiding in some backroom....find me someone else..
Truly pathetic to denigrate his service, especially compared to a draft dodger who denigrates war heroes and POWs.
If you remove Names and just list out the accomplishments...it's an easy sell for Trump. Peoples opinion cloud their judgment...

We all have a vote - so use it how you see fit.


Lol at this take . Trump was born with a silver spoon up his ass, was given millions of dollars by dad, and squandered much if it, running a lot of companies into the ground. He's the opposite of a self made man.

And his presidency was a very mixed bag. Lots of broken promises. Remember the border wall?

Trumps biggest accomplishment is fooling people into believing he's accomplished. But I will give him credit for his ability to self-aggrandize.
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In reply to Mothra • 2:58p, 5/27/23
Mothra said:
BluesBear said:
sombear said:
BluesBear said:
Ron is s WEF stooge... Do your research....that military service was hiding in some backroom....find me someone else..
Truly pathetic to denigrate his service, especially compared to a draft dodger who denigrates war heroes and POWs.
If you remove Names and just list out the accomplishments...it's an easy sell for Trump. Peoples opinion cloud their judgment...

We all have a vote - so use it how you see fit.


Lol at this take . Trump was born with a silver spoon up his ass, was given millions of dollars by dad, and squandered much if it, running a lot of companies into the ground. He's the opposite of a self made man.

And his presidency was a very mixed bag. Lots of broken promises. Remember the border wall?

Trumps biggest accomplishment is fooling people into believing he's accomplished. But I will give him credit for his ability to self-aggrandize.


I don't care about any of it. Bottom line is Trumps mouth and tweets have made him politically ineffective. He cannot function in DC. Anything he brings forward is DOA. Even when he was new, with both House and Senate he couldn't pass legislation effectively. Now? Just killing ANY Trump proposal will make a Dem, Progressive or RINO career.

He needs to go back to TV and be the new Rush...
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In reply to Mothra • 5:56p, 5/27/23
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muddybrazos said:


lol, Trumps trolling of Rob Desanctus is great. His return to twitter is going to be glorious.


Glorious? Nah. Only you MAGA types eat up his self-aggrandizing bull **** with a spoon. To most Americans he's buffoonish.


Oh this election will be entertaining, for sure. From the feed of the Axios National Political Correspondent:


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In reply to Cobretti • 8:16p, 5/27/23
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Won't happen in Florida, other states need to get their **** together.
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In reply to whiterock • 7:19a, 5/28/23
whiterock said:
Mothra said:
muddybrazos said:


lol, Trumps trolling of Rob Desanctus is great. His return to twitter is going to be glorious.


Glorious? Nah. Only you MAGA types eat up his self-aggrandizing bull **** with a spoon. To most Americans he's buffoonish.


Oh this election will be entertaining, for sure. From the feed of the Axios National Political Correspondent:




You thought that was entertaining?

Huh. Like I said, whatever floats you MAGA types boats…
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In reply to Mothra • 8:25a, 5/28/23
Mothra said:
whiterock said:
Mothra said:
muddybrazos said:


lol, Trumps trolling of Rob Desanctus is great. His return to twitter is going to be glorious.


Glorious? Nah. Only you MAGA types eat up his self-aggrandizing bull **** with a spoon. To most Americans he's buffoonish.


Oh this election will be entertaining, for sure. From the feed of the Axios National Political Correspondent:




You thought that was entertaining?

Huh. Like I said, whatever floats you MAGA types boats…
Lighten up, Francis. Yes, it was funny.

RDS needs to get a lot more active, with exactly the same kind of ridicule. It's not like Trump doesn't offer a lot of material for the same.

I've heard great things about the Desantis team, and I keep waiting for them to show us something. But frankly, I'm concerned. At this moment (and, yes, it is still early) Trump is pummeling him like Ali beating up on a Wepner doing a pretty bad imitation of rope-a-dope.

I could post more examples but it'd look like I'm trying to beat up on Desantis, which I'm not. EX: Stories all over the internet yesterday about the leak from a Desantis donor meeting, quoting that Desantis will run to the right of Trump in the primary then move to the middle. As an inside baseball analysis, nothing terribly unusual about that, as it happens to some degree in every campaign when the nominee changes messaging to appeal to the general election voter. But the context was dreadful. Desantis has lined up most of the donor class, including the Bushies. Again, one takes the support/funding one gets in a campaign. And one has to speak to the concerns of one's supporters (regardless what one plans to do or not). But as I've said many times here before = a GOP primary is a RINO hunt. The base is just looking looking looking hunting searching prodding to find a RINO. And Team Desantis lets him blunder into the trap.

These fumbles are indicative of something I've said before.......moving up from a Gov. race to a POTUS race is not just the next step up the ladder. It is a quantum leap. I still think (hope, actually) Desantis will get better, but right now, he's holding on to next rung on the ladder by a fingernail. He's GOT to get better or it will be over before it begins.

Net effect of all this? Team Trump may have denied Team Desantis the usual "bump" in support that occurs after formal announcement. We'll see numbers on that in 7-10 days, and can dissect the whys & wherefores then.
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In reply to whiterock • 9:05a, 5/28/23
whiterock said:
Mothra said:
whiterock said:
Mothra said:
muddybrazos said:


lol, Trumps trolling of Rob Desanctus is great. His return to twitter is going to be glorious.


Glorious? Nah. Only you MAGA types eat up his self-aggrandizing bull **** with a spoon. To most Americans he's buffoonish.


Oh this election will be entertaining, for sure. From the feed of the Axios National Political Correspondent:




You thought that was entertaining?

Huh. Like I said, whatever floats you MAGA types boats…
Lighten up, Francis. Yes, it was funny.

RDS needs to get a lot more active, with exactly the same kind of ridicule. It's not like Trump doesn't offer a lot of material for the same.

I've heard great things about the Desantis team, and I keep waiting for them to show us something. But frankly, I'm concerned. At this moment (and, yes, it is still early) Trump is pummeling him like Ali beating up on a Wepner doing a pretty bad imitation of rope-a-dope.

I could post more examples but it'd look like I'm trying to beat up on Desantis, which I'm not. EX: Stories all over the internet yesterday about the leak from a Desantis donor meeting, quoting that Desantis will run to the right of Trump in the primary then move to the middle. As an inside baseball analysis, nothing terribly unusual about that, as it happens to some degree in every campaign when the nominee changes messaging to appeal to the general election voter. But the context was dreadful. Desantis has lined up most of the donor class, including the Bushies. Again, one takes the support/funding one gets in a campaign. And one has to speak to the concerns of one's supporters (regardless what one plans to do or not). But as I've said many times here before = a GOP primary is a RINO hunt. The base is just looking looking looking hunting searching prodding to find a RINO. And Team Desantis lets him blunder into the trap.

These fumbles are indicative of something I've said before.......moving up from a Gov. race to a POTUS race is not just the next step up the ladder. It is a quantum leap. I still think (hope, actually) Desantis will get better, but right now, he's holding on to next rung on the ladder by a fingernail. He's GOT to get better or it will be over before it begins.

Net effect of all this? Team Trump may have denied Team Desantis the usual "bump" in support that occurs after formal announcement. We'll see numbers on that in 7-10 days, and can dissect the whys & wherefores then.


Only a moron would describe it as funny or creative. It was stupid, juvenile humor that you MAGA types eat up with a spoon. It was no surprise that known dbag Trump Jr. posted it. He knows you bumpkins love that stuff. That's red meat to you yahoos.

I was hoping that the issues affecting our country would be debated this election cycle - adult issues. Lord knows we have plenty of them. But I guess we can expect Trump to continue to campaign to the lowest common denominator this election cycle. It's going to be the **** show you know and love. We are doomed.

Btw how many Trump trading cards have you purchased?
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In reply to whiterock • 9:42a, 5/28/23
whiterock said:
If all one talks about is electability and the polling turns in the wrong direction…..

Using your standard . . . Echelon had Walker winning by 7!

But, in all seriousness, my view on electability is not based so much on early 2023 polls, but rather on three things: One, Trump's past performance (a lucky win, a loss, and awful down ballot record); two, Desantis polling historically well for a non-candidate (and now, just announced candidate); and three, generic Republican candidate approvals (somewhat combined with issues polling).
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In reply to whiterock • 10:20a, 5/28/23
whiterock said:
Mothra said:
whiterock said:
Mothra said:
muddybrazos said:


lol, Trumps trolling of Rob Desanctus is great. His return to twitter is going to be glorious.


Glorious? Nah. Only you MAGA types eat up his self-aggrandizing bull **** with a spoon. To most Americans he's buffoonish.


Oh this election will be entertaining, for sure. From the feed of the Axios National Political Correspondent:




You thought that was entertaining?

Huh. Like I said, whatever floats you MAGA types boats…
Lighten up, Francis. Yes, it was funny.

RDS needs to get a lot more active, with exactly the same kind of ridicule. It's not like Trump doesn't offer a lot of material for the same.

I've heard great things about the Desantis team, and I keep waiting for them to show us something. But frankly, I'm concerned. At this moment (and, yes, it is still early) Trump is pummeling him like Ali beating up on a Wepner doing a pretty bad imitation of rope-a-dope.

I could post more examples but it'd look like I'm trying to beat up on Desantis, which I'm not. EX: Stories all over the internet yesterday about the leak from a Desantis donor meeting, quoting that Desantis will run to the right of Trump in the primary then move to the middle. As an inside baseball analysis, nothing terribly unusual about that, as it happens to some degree in every campaign when the nominee changes messaging to appeal to the general election voter. But the context was dreadful. Desantis has lined up most of the donor class, including the Bushies. Again, one takes the support/funding one gets in a campaign. And one has to speak to the concerns of one's supporters (regardless what one plans to do or not). But as I've said many times here before = a GOP primary is a RINO hunt. The base is just looking looking looking hunting searching prodding to find a RINO. And Team Desantis lets him blunder into the trap.

These fumbles are indicative of something I've said before.......moving up from a Gov. race to a POTUS race is not just the next step up the ladder. It is a quantum leap. I still think (hope, actually) Desantis will get better, but right now, he's holding on to next rung on the ladder by a fingernail. He's GOT to get better or it will be over before it begins.

Net effect of all this? Team Trump may have denied Team Desantis the usual "bump" in support that occurs after formal announcement. We'll see numbers on that in 7-10 days, and can dissect the whys & wherefores then.
You are WAY to into the numbers in May 2023! These numbers mean nothing. The Primaries have not even begun. To boot, each Primary is a State race, not a National. The National numbers mean absolutely nothing, especially at this point. Right now, Haley looks like th adult in the room. She is right, this is a marathon. We are in mile 1.

A bit surprised at you Whiterock, you are usually more sophisticated in your analysis than to push National polling as saying this is over, with over a year out to go to the Convention. I know you like Trump, but even Nomination will be determined by key states not some National poll.

As for the support, RDS raised 8.4 million, nice bump.
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In reply to Golem • 10:41a, 5/28/23
Golem said:
Guy Noir said:
Ron

BTW Thee you left out the number of times each candidate is sued for sexual assault, or bribes. Trump is a tar baby for lawsuits.

I will not vote for Biden or Trump. I will write-in, or vote Libertarian, if Trump is the nominee


Your vote for Biden is greatly appreciated by the left.

This un-American trash has got to be spoken out against every time it happens. Just because you will vote for evil doesn't mean anyone else should. Shaming others for their votes is as old as the hills, but America only works as long as in some way we respect that our neighbors might think differently than us. We can cast one mean vote against them, but day to day we have to respect them and their choices.

To cast a vote you believe in, is never wasted, or a vote for a 3rd party. It is the essence of being free. Not bound to vote for 1 of 2 people, but whoever is most qualified. To speak our against that is to try to stifle that freedom. How many Trump lovers would love to remove our right to write a name in?
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In reply to Sam Lowry • 11:14a, 5/28/23
Sam Lowry said:
Aliceinbubbleland said:

I pleaded with posters here in 2022 that the abortion issue would kill our candidates. It did. Everyone who told me I was wrong never replied after the red wave collasped.
Sorry I missed that. You were wrong.
You do not believe that the anti-abortion card played by GOP candidates did not cost the GOP the promised Red Wave?
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In reply to Mothra • 11:15a, 5/28/23
Mothra said:
whiterock said:
Mothra said:
whiterock said:
Mothra said:
muddybrazos said:


lol, Trumps trolling of Rob Desanctus is great. His return to twitter is going to be glorious.


Glorious? Nah. Only you MAGA types eat up his self-aggrandizing bull **** with a spoon. To most Americans he's buffoonish.


Oh this election will be entertaining, for sure. From the feed of the Axios National Political Correspondent:




You thought that was entertaining?

Huh. Like I said, whatever floats you MAGA types boats…
Lighten up, Francis. Yes, it was funny.

RDS needs to get a lot more active, with exactly the same kind of ridicule. It's not like Trump doesn't offer a lot of material for the same.

I've heard great things about the Desantis team, and I keep waiting for them to show us something. But frankly, I'm concerned. At this moment (and, yes, it is still early) Trump is pummeling him like Ali beating up on a Wepner doing a pretty bad imitation of rope-a-dope.

I could post more examples but it'd look like I'm trying to beat up on Desantis, which I'm not. EX: Stories all over the internet yesterday about the leak from a Desantis donor meeting, quoting that Desantis will run to the right of Trump in the primary then move to the middle. As an inside baseball analysis, nothing terribly unusual about that, as it happens to some degree in every campaign when the nominee changes messaging to appeal to the general election voter. But the context was dreadful. Desantis has lined up most of the donor class, including the Bushies. Again, one takes the support/funding one gets in a campaign. And one has to speak to the concerns of one's supporters (regardless what one plans to do or not). But as I've said many times here before = a GOP primary is a RINO hunt. The base is just looking looking looking hunting searching prodding to find a RINO. And Team Desantis lets him blunder into the trap.

These fumbles are indicative of something I've said before.......moving up from a Gov. race to a POTUS race is not just the next step up the ladder. It is a quantum leap. I still think (hope, actually) Desantis will get better, but right now, he's holding on to next rung on the ladder by a fingernail. He's GOT to get better or it will be over before it begins.

Net effect of all this? Team Trump may have denied Team Desantis the usual "bump" in support that occurs after formal announcement. We'll see numbers on that in 7-10 days, and can dissect the whys & wherefores then.


Only a moron would describe it as funny or creative. It was stupid, juvenile humor that you MAGA types eat up with a spoon. It was no surprise that known dbag Trump Jr. posted it. He knows you bumpkins love that stuff. That's red meat to you yahoos.

I was hoping that the issues affecting our country would be debated this election cycle - adult issues. Lord knows we have plenty of them. But I guess we can expect Trump to continue to campaign to the lowest common denominator this election cycle. It's going to be the **** show you know and love. We are doomed.

Btw how many Trump trading cards have you purchased?
When you've accepted the most bizarre, unethical, inappropriate, and idiotic behavior as part of your candidates "charm", there is no mocking or insulting of him to his devotees. They are so blind and desensitized to his stupidity they have lost all rational perspective on their guy. Eaten up with the desire for revenge and the fairy tale of his "effectiveness", they play pretender outwardly with some deference to other candidates, but they are true believers unphased by better options or the continued spiral down the cuckoo path of their man. Just look at the DeSantus shade from many on here who were so ready to get behind someone else just a few months ago, They can't quit Trump no matter how hard they try to fake it.
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In reply to Mothra • 11:23a, 5/28/23
Mothra said:
whiterock said:
Mothra said:
muddybrazos said:


lol, Trumps trolling of Rob Desanctus is great. His return to twitter is going to be glorious.


Glorious? Nah. Only you MAGA types eat up his self-aggrandizing bull **** with a spoon. To most Americans he's buffoonish.


Oh this election will be entertaining, for sure. From the feed of the Axios National Political Correspondent:




You thought that was entertaining?

Huh. Like I said, whatever floats you MAGA types boats…

I'd expect a yahoo to share this but for Don Jr to share it is pretty stupid and right on par with what I'd expect.
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In reply to Aliceinbubbleland • 11:47a, 5/28/23
Aliceinbubbleland said:
Sam Lowry said:
Aliceinbubbleland said:

I pleaded with posters here in 2022 that the abortion issue would kill our candidates. It did. Everyone who told me I was wrong never replied after the red wave collasped.
Sorry I missed that. You were wrong.
You do not believe that the anti-abortion card played by GOP candidates did not cost the GOP the promised Red Wave?
I do not think so, and I based it on (1) issues polling, which has abortion far down the list, and equally important for pro-choicers and pro-lifers; and (2) pro-life governors in key states did exceptionally well.
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In reply to Mothra • 12:29p, 5/28/23
You know, one thing that always worried me about the Trump campaign, is how a portion of his supporters will never accept other options for President, to the point of mocking and attacking fellow conservatives. now I see Mothra doing exactly the same thing from the other side, and ATL cheering him on.

Joe Biden is absolutely the worst President in my lifetime, yet this behavior is just how he can win in 2024.

Way to go, Mothra and ATLBear.
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 1:19p, 5/28/23
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You know, one thing that always worried me about the Trump campaign, is how a portion of his supporters will never accept other options for President, to the point of mocking and attacking fellow conservatives. now I see Mothra doing exactly the same thing from the other side, and ATL cheering him on.

Joe Biden is absolutely the worst President in my lifetime, yet this behavior is just how he can win in 2024.

Way to go, Mothra and ATLBear.
We are in a bad situation on the GOP side.

Even the FOX pundits are saying that Trump has a loyal following, probably enough to win a primary, that like is message and his style. But, that will not play well in a General election with the moderates, suburbs and women.

That is a problem. Because Biden may win this thing without doing a thing. Just not being Trump, which is what happened last time.
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 1:49p, 5/28/23
But there is another problem RMF. If DeSantis wins the nomination, he still needs Trump's base to win.

Insulting those voters is well beyond stupid.
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 2:59p, 5/28/23
Oldbear83 said:
But there is another problem RMF. If DeSantis wins the nomination, he still needs Trump's base to win.

Insulting those voters is well beyond stupid.
I don't disagree there. In the game of "who is most liked," getting in pissing matches is not wise. I get your point, true they won't vote for Biden. They just won't vote.
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 3:11p, 5/28/23
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But there is another problem RMF. If DeSantis wins the nomination, he still needs Trump's base to win.

Insulting those voters is well beyond stupid.
Talk to your idiot candidate first before chastising those of us insulting Trump supporters. It's all we're left with since logic and rationality is consistently rejected, and is the juvenile playground Trump chooses to play on.
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 4:02p, 5/28/23
Oldbear83 said:
You know, one thing that always worried me about the Trump campaign, is how a portion of his supporters will never accept other options for President, to the point of mocking and attacking fellow conservatives. now I see Mothra doing exactly the same thing from the other side, and ATL cheering him on.

Joe Biden is absolutely the worst President in my lifetime, yet this behavior is just how he can win in 2024.

Way to go, Mothra and ATLBear.


So, again folks, Oldbear is on record as being perfectly fine and dandy with Trump and his minions mocking and attacking fellow Republican candidates with juvenile and petty insults that only serve to stifle discussion about the real issues facing our country, but God forbid if someone calls out such boorish behavior. That's not only completely beyond the pale, but is actually "attacking and mocking" Trump using Oldbear's warped and twisted logic.

Sure thing, Oldbear.
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 4:07p, 5/28/23
Oldbear83 said:
But there is another problem RMF. If DeSantis wins the nomination, he still needs Trump's base to win.

Insulting those voters is well beyond stupid.


The problem with you guys who look the other way when Trump acts like a horse's ass is y'all still suffer under the delusion that Trump can win. And you'll continue to look the other way until we get another 4 years of Biden.
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I'm ready for a Chris Christie / Nikki Haley or Chris Christie / Tim Scott ticket.

The only concern I'd have is Christie's health.

Trump is a non starter for me. End of topice. DeSantis has been a huge disappointment laying one egg after another so far into the contest.

I could vote for DeSantis but prefer others and I will never vote for Trump.
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In reply to sombear • 7:30p, 5/28/23
sombear said:
whiterock said:
If all one talks about is electability and the polling turns in the wrong direction…..

Using your standard . . . Echelon had Walker winning by 7!

But, in all seriousness, my view on electability is not based so much on early 2023 polls, but rather on three things: One, Trump's past performance (a lucky win, a loss, and awful down ballot record); two, Desantis polling historically well for a non-candidate (and now, just announced candidate); and three, generic Republican candidate approvals (somewhat combined with issues polling).


Valid point. Polling is, rather predictably, all over the map this far out. All of them are guessing what the electorate will be.



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In reply to Mothra • 7:32p, 5/28/23
Mothra said:
whiterock said:
Mothra said:
whiterock said:
Mothra said:
muddybrazos said:


lol, Trumps trolling of Rob Desanctus is great. His return to twitter is going to be glorious.


Glorious? Nah. Only you MAGA types eat up his self-aggrandizing bull **** with a spoon. To most Americans he's buffoonish.


Oh this election will be entertaining, for sure. From the feed of the Axios National Political Correspondent:




You thought that was entertaining?

Huh. Like I said, whatever floats you MAGA types boats…
Lighten up, Francis. Yes, it was funny.

RDS needs to get a lot more active, with exactly the same kind of ridicule. It's not like Trump doesn't offer a lot of material for the same.

I've heard great things about the Desantis team, and I keep waiting for them to show us something. But frankly, I'm concerned. At this moment (and, yes, it is still early) Trump is pummeling him like Ali beating up on a Wepner doing a pretty bad imitation of rope-a-dope.

I could post more examples but it'd look like I'm trying to beat up on Desantis, which I'm not. EX: Stories all over the internet yesterday about the leak from a Desantis donor meeting, quoting that Desantis will run to the right of Trump in the primary then move to the middle. As an inside baseball analysis, nothing terribly unusual about that, as it happens to some degree in every campaign when the nominee changes messaging to appeal to the general election voter. But the context was dreadful. Desantis has lined up most of the donor class, including the Bushies. Again, one takes the support/funding one gets in a campaign. And one has to speak to the concerns of one's supporters (regardless what one plans to do or not). But as I've said many times here before = a GOP primary is a RINO hunt. The base is just looking looking looking hunting searching prodding to find a RINO. And Team Desantis lets him blunder into the trap.

These fumbles are indicative of something I've said before.......moving up from a Gov. race to a POTUS race is not just the next step up the ladder. It is a quantum leap. I still think (hope, actually) Desantis will get better, but right now, he's holding on to next rung on the ladder by a fingernail. He's GOT to get better or it will be over before it begins.

Net effect of all this? Team Trump may have denied Team Desantis the usual "bump" in support that occurs after formal announcement. We'll see numbers on that in 7-10 days, and can dissect the whys & wherefores then.


Only a moron would describe it as funny or creative. It was stupid, juvenile humor that you MAGA types eat up with a spoon. It was no surprise that known dbag Trump Jr. posted it. He knows you bumpkins love that stuff. That's red meat to you yahoos.

I was hoping that the issues affecting our country would be debated this election cycle - adult issues. Lord knows we have plenty of them. But I guess we can expect Trump to continue to campaign to the lowest common denominator this election cycle. It's going to be the **** show you know and love. We are doomed.

Btw how many Trump trading cards have you purchased?


If Desantis would post something funny, I'd laugh and post it here.
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In reply to ATL Bear • 7:32p, 5/28/23
ATL : "Talk to your idiot candidate first"

And just who do you consider to be my 'idiot candidate'?


*******-mode is a poor choice for winning people over to your side. And yes, you need as many people as possible to win, and a lot more than you may think. That applies to anyone on the GOP side.
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In reply to Mothra • 7:34p, 5/28/23
Mothra said:
Oldbear83 said:
But there is another problem RMF. If DeSantis wins the nomination, he still needs Trump's base to win.

Insulting those voters is well beyond stupid.


The problem with you guys who look the other way when Trump acts like a horse's ass is y'all still suffer under the delusion that Trump can win. And you'll continue to look the other way until we get another 4 years of Biden.
Strike One: I'm not rooting for Trump. I am only observing that the GOP can't win without his base voting for the nominee.

Stop posting piss-faced, it makes you look like a drunk moron.
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In reply to Mothra • 7:36p, 5/28/23
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, Oldbear is on record as being perfectly fine and dandy with Trump and his minions mocking and attacking fellow Republican candidates
Lying about me is poor debate, Mothra.

Did Hunter hijack your username? Because that post reads like you were on crack when you wrote it.
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 7:39p, 5/28/23
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Oldbear83 said:
You know, one thing that always worried me about the Trump campaign, is how a portion of his supporters will never accept other options for President, to the point of mocking and attacking fellow conservatives. now I see Mothra doing exactly the same thing from the other side, and ATL cheering him on.

Joe Biden is absolutely the worst President in my lifetime, yet this behavior is just how he can win in 2024.

Way to go, Mothra and ATLBear.
We are in a bad situation on the GOP side.

Even the FOX pundits are saying that Trump has a loyal following, probably enough to win a primary, that like is message and his style. But, that will not play well in a General election with the moderates, suburbs and women.

That is a problem. Because Biden may win this thing without doing a thing. Just not being Trump, which is what happened last time.
That's the problem.

Trump supporters act out stupid and attack mainstream Republicans.

Now Trump haters act like chasing off all the Trump voters won't hurt them.

Both are incredible stupid, immature takes.

Trump or Biden or Scott or whoever, Republicans have to decide to back whoever wins the GOP nomination.

Four more years of Biden would be worse than anything under any GOP nominee.
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Oldbear83 said:
RMF5630 said:
Oldbear83 said:
You know, one thing that always worried me about the Trump campaign, is how a portion of his supporters will never accept other options for President, to the point of mocking and attacking fellow conservatives. now I see Mothra doing exactly the same thing from the other side, and ATL cheering him on.

Joe Biden is absolutely the worst President in my lifetime, yet this behavior is just how he can win in 2024.

Way to go, Mothra and ATLBear.
We are in a bad situation on the GOP side.

Even the FOX pundits are saying that Trump has a loyal following, probably enough to win a primary, that like is message and his style. But, that will not play well in a General election with the moderates, suburbs and women.

That is a problem. Because Biden may win this thing without doing a thing. Just not being Trump, which is what happened last time.
That's the problem.

Trump supporters act out stupid and attack mainstream Republicans.

Now Trump haters act like chasing off all the Trump voters won't hurt them.

Both are incredible stupid, immature takes.

Trump or Biden or Scott or whoever, Republicans have to decide to back whoever wins the GOP nomination.

Four more years of Biden would be worse than anything under any GOP nominee.

and the main streamers attack, too…..

Very old dynamic. The two parts of the GOP tend to think the other one is the problem, rather than joining up to attack the real problem on the other side of the aisle, who typically has none of those internal difficulties. Liberals in particular will pretty much let the progressives get as nutty and unruly as they want, as long as Republicans are the target.
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