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Harrison Bergeron
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Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

nein51 said:

Waco1947 said:

nein51 said:

People are racist, geography is not.

Not a hard concept really.
Very disingenuous - rural refers to rural people.

You're a moron. Some rural people are racists. Some are not. Some city people are racists. Some are not.

Again. This is a really easy concept. People may be racists; geography is not.

Even when the South had slaves there were southerners who disagreed with that practice. Even though the north was free not every northerner wanted the slaves freed.

See, conceptually this is easy, for almost everyone to understand.
You set up a straw man called "geography" and are trying make some kind of argument about it. Racism still exists. Ask any African American except Tim Scott who believes racism does not exist because his mother's best friend is white. Racism exists.


So what? Great question. Racism continues to divide our country.

Correct. This is why so many of us oppose CRT and many of China Joe's divisive, racist policies.
whiterock
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Frank Galvin said:

whiterock said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

whiterock said:

SIC EM 94 said:

Waco1947 said:

nein51 said:

POS people come in every shape, size, color, creed, ethnicity, sexual orientation, etc. as do really good people.

Most people are really good people. Probably 90% or more.
Yes, they are but racist control the south

Surely your extreme ignorance is an act right? Whether it's politics, sports, religion…anything at all…you are the most misinformed insufferable clown I've ever come across on Sicem365. It's embarrassing if you actually graduated from Baylor and even more disgusting that you claim to be a Christian leader. Do you have mental illness or are you special needs? There has to be something that causes you to be so out of touch with reality!


The single most true political observation I ever heard was from one of the preeminent Austin political consultants, who said "in disagreement, conservatives always go to judgment; liberals always go to character." It is so spot. on. Gets ratified over and over and over again in every political debate. Conservatives are talking facts and reasons, while liberals just label any dissent some kind of -ism or -phobery.

So don't make the mistake of thinking Waco47 is ignorant or misinformed or crazy. There's another problem going on.

Liberalism is a disease?
Well, there are some psychological studies showing a high degree of correlation between liberalism and neuroticism, but that's not at all where I'm going.

Republicans have to quit arguing facts and summon the courage to call out Democrats for what they are - ideological bigots who try to blacklist anyone who disagrees with them. Everybody can see that is true. Even some liberals see it and flinch, will admit in private they are troubled at what they see/hear. Yet, it is just so out of character for Republicans to call it out for what it is.

We have to get tougher.


Is this intentionally ironic?

In disagreement, Republicans always go to judgment; Democrats always go to character.

Reality is, the bigotry is the conscious choice to describe everyone who disagrees with you as some kind of -ist or -phobe and then cancel them from participation in the debate, which is literally what the left does. Look at the Rogan interview with Dr. Peter Hotez. Rogan asked Hotez to come on the show and debate Robt. Kennedy Jr. about vaccines. Hotez reply? "Why would I debate the holocaust with a holocaust denier?"

The left is not interested in a debate on anything it believes to be true. Axiomatic. You hear a guy like Hotez say something like that, then go check his Twitter page and, predictably, you see...........a closed mind.
Harrison Bergeron
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whiterock said:

Frank Galvin said:

whiterock said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

whiterock said:

SIC EM 94 said:

Waco1947 said:

nein51 said:

POS people come in every shape, size, color, creed, ethnicity, sexual orientation, etc. as do really good people.

Most people are really good people. Probably 90% or more.
Yes, they are but racist control the south

Surely your extreme ignorance is an act right? Whether it's politics, sports, religion…anything at all…you are the most misinformed insufferable clown I've ever come across on Sicem365. It's embarrassing if you actually graduated from Baylor and even more disgusting that you claim to be a Christian leader. Do you have mental illness or are you special needs? There has to be something that causes you to be so out of touch with reality!


The single most true political observation I ever heard was from one of the preeminent Austin political consultants, who said "in disagreement, conservatives always go to judgment; liberals always go to character." It is so spot. on. Gets ratified over and over and over again in every political debate. Conservatives are talking facts and reasons, while liberals just label any dissent some kind of -ism or -phobery.

So don't make the mistake of thinking Waco47 is ignorant or misinformed or crazy. There's another problem going on.

Liberalism is a disease?
Well, there are some psychological studies showing a high degree of correlation between liberalism and neuroticism, but that's not at all where I'm going.

Republicans have to quit arguing facts and summon the courage to call out Democrats for what they are - ideological bigots who try to blacklist anyone who disagrees with them. Everybody can see that is true. Even some liberals see it and flinch, will admit in private they are troubled at what they see/hear. Yet, it is just so out of character for Republicans to call it out for what it is.

We have to get tougher.


Is this intentionally ironic?

In disagreement, Republicans always go to judgment; Democrats always go to character.

Reality is, the bigotry is the conscious choice to describe everyone who disagrees with you as some kind of -ist or -phobe and then cancel them from participation in the debate, which is literally what the left does. Look at the Rogan interview with Dr. Peter Hotez. Rogan asked Hotez to come on the show and debate Robt. Kennedy Jr. about vaccines. Hotez reply? "Why would I debate the holocaust with a holocaust denier?"

The left is not interested in a debate on anything it believes to be true. Axiomatic. You hear a guy like Hotez say something like that, then go check his Twitter page and, predictably, you see...........a closed mind.


Correct. The regressive left has fully embraced 1984 ... the problem is many are so ignorant as to not notice.
Waco1947
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D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

nein51 said:

Waco1947 said:

nein51 said:

People are racist, geography is not.

Not a hard concept really.
Very disingenuous - rural refers to rural people.

You're a moron. Some rural people are racists. Some are not. Some city people are racists. Some are not.

Again. This is a really easy concept. People may be racists; geography is not.

Even when the South had slaves there were southerners who disagreed with that practice. Even though the north was free not every northerner wanted the slaves freed.

See, conceptually this is easy, for almost everyone to understand.
You set up a straw man called "geography" and are trying make some kind of argument about it. Racism still exists. Ask any African American except Tim Scott who believes racism does not exist because his mother's best friend is white. Racism exists.


So what? Great question. Racism continues to divide our country.



How and why, specifically.
Asked and answered
Waco1947 ,la
D. C. Bear
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Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

nein51 said:

Waco1947 said:

nein51 said:

People are racist, geography is not.

Not a hard concept really.
Very disingenuous - rural refers to rural people.

You're a moron. Some rural people are racists. Some are not. Some city people are racists. Some are not.

Again. This is a really easy concept. People may be racists; geography is not.

Even when the South had slaves there were southerners who disagreed with that practice. Even though the north was free not every northerner wanted the slaves freed.

See, conceptually this is easy, for almost everyone to understand.
You set up a straw man called "geography" and are trying make some kind of argument about it. Racism still exists. Ask any African American except Tim Scott who believes racism does not exist because his mother's best friend is white. Racism exists.


So what? Great question. Racism continues to divide our country.



How and why, specifically.
Asked and answered


If you have answered specifically how and why racism "continues to divide our country," you should be able to quote yourself describing the mechanism of and reasons for division in our country caused by racism. Go ahead and do that.
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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Harrison Bergeron said:

whiterock said:

Frank Galvin said:

whiterock said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

whiterock said:

SIC EM 94 said:

Waco1947 said:

nein51 said:

POS people come in every shape, size, color, creed, ethnicity, sexual orientation, etc. as do really good people.

Most people are really good people. Probably 90% or more.
Yes, they are but racist control the south

Surely your extreme ignorance is an act right? Whether it's politics, sports, religion…anything at all…you are the most misinformed insufferable clown I've ever come across on Sicem365. It's embarrassing if you actually graduated from Baylor and even more disgusting that you claim to be a Christian leader. Do you have mental illness or are you special needs? There has to be something that causes you to be so out of touch with reality!


The single most true political observation I ever heard was from one of the preeminent Austin political consultants, who said "in disagreement, conservatives always go to judgment; liberals always go to character." It is so spot. on. Gets ratified over and over and over again in every political debate. Conservatives are talking facts and reasons, while liberals just label any dissent some kind of -ism or -phobery.

So don't make the mistake of thinking Waco47 is ignorant or misinformed or crazy. There's another problem going on.

Liberalism is a disease?
Well, there are some psychological studies showing a high degree of correlation between liberalism and neuroticism, but that's not at all where I'm going.

Republicans have to quit arguing facts and summon the courage to call out Democrats for what they are - ideological bigots who try to blacklist anyone who disagrees with them. Everybody can see that is true. Even some liberals see it and flinch, will admit in private they are troubled at what they see/hear. Yet, it is just so out of character for Republicans to call it out for what it is.

We have to get tougher.


Is this intentionally ironic?

In disagreement, Republicans always go to judgment; Democrats always go to character.

Reality is, the bigotry is the conscious choice to describe everyone who disagrees with you as some kind of -ist or -phobe and then cancel them from participation in the debate, which is literally what the left does. Look at the Rogan interview with Dr. Peter Hotez. Rogan asked Hotez to come on the show and debate Robt. Kennedy Jr. about vaccines. Hotez reply? "Why would I debate the holocaust with a holocaust denier?"

The left is not interested in a debate on anything it believes to be true. Axiomatic. You hear a guy like Hotez say something like that, then go check his Twitter page and, predictably, you see...........a closed mind.


Correct. The regressive left has fully embraced 1984 ... the problem is many are so ignorant as to not notice.
We should bring back literacy tests. This would cull out no less than 81 million voters.
"Stand with anyone when he is right; Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong." - Abraham Lincoln
GrowlTowel
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Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

nein51 said:

Waco1947 said:

nein51 said:

People are racist, geography is not.

Not a hard concept really.
Very disingenuous - rural refers to rural people.

You're a moron. Some rural people are racists. Some are not. Some city people are racists. Some are not.

Again. This is a really easy concept. People may be racists; geography is not.

Even when the South had slaves there were southerners who disagreed with that practice. Even though the north was free not every northerner wanted the slaves freed.

See, conceptually this is easy, for almost everyone to understand.
You set up a straw man called "geography" and are trying make some kind of argument about it. Racism still exists. Ask any African American except Tim Scott who believes racism does not exist because his mother's best friend is white. Racism exists.


So what? Great question. Racism continues to divide our country.

It sure does. Only not the way you think it does.

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Waco1947
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D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

nein51 said:

Waco1947 said:

nein51 said:

People are racist, geography is not.

Not a hard concept really.
Very disingenuous - rural refers to rural people.

You're a moron. Some rural people are racists. Some are not. Some city people are racists. Some are not.

Again. This is a really easy concept. People may be racists; geography is not.

Even when the South had slaves there were southerners who disagreed with that practice. Even though the north was free not every northerner wanted the slaves freed.

See, conceptually this is easy, for almost everyone to understand.
You set up a straw man called "geography" and are trying make some kind of argument about it. Racism still exists. Ask any African American except Tim Scott who believes racism does not exist because his mother's best friend is white. Racism exists.


So what? Great question. Racism continues to divide our country.



How and why, specifically.
Asked and answered


If you have answered specifically how and why racism "continues to divide our country," you should be able to quote yourself describing the mechanism of and reasons for division in our country caused by racism. Go ahead and do that.
" The perception that the Republican Party had served as the "vehicle of white supremacy in the South," particularly during the Goldwater campaign and the presidential elections of 1968 and 1972, made it difficult for the Republican Party to win back the support of black voters in the South in later years.[" Wiki
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GrowlTowel
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Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

nein51 said:

Waco1947 said:

nein51 said:

People are racist, geography is not.

Not a hard concept really.
Very disingenuous - rural refers to rural people.

You're a moron. Some rural people are racists. Some are not. Some city people are racists. Some are not.

Again. This is a really easy concept. People may be racists; geography is not.

Even when the South had slaves there were southerners who disagreed with that practice. Even though the north was free not every northerner wanted the slaves freed.

See, conceptually this is easy, for almost everyone to understand.
You set up a straw man called "geography" and are trying make some kind of argument about it. Racism still exists. Ask any African American except Tim Scott who believes racism does not exist because his mother's best friend is white. Racism exists.


So what? Great question. Racism continues to divide our country.



How and why, specifically.
Asked and answered


If you have answered specifically how and why racism "continues to divide our country," you should be able to quote yourself describing the mechanism of and reasons for division in our country caused by racism. Go ahead and do that.
" The perception that the Republican Party had served as the "vehicle of white supremacy in the South," particularly during the Goldwater campaign and the presidential elections of 1968 and 1972, made it difficult for the Republican Party to win back the support of black voters in the South in later years.[" Wiki
Another cut and paste?
D. C. Bear
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Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

nein51 said:

Waco1947 said:

nein51 said:

People are racist, geography is not.

Not a hard concept really.
Very disingenuous - rural refers to rural people.

You're a moron. Some rural people are racists. Some are not. Some city people are racists. Some are not.

Again. This is a really easy concept. People may be racists; geography is not.

Even when the South had slaves there were southerners who disagreed with that practice. Even though the north was free not every northerner wanted the slaves freed.

See, conceptually this is easy, for almost everyone to understand.
You set up a straw man called "geography" and are trying make some kind of argument about it. Racism still exists. Ask any African American except Tim Scott who believes racism does not exist because his mother's best friend is white. Racism exists.


So what? Great question. Racism continues to divide our country.



How and why, specifically.
Asked and answered


If you have answered specifically how and why racism "continues to divide our country," you should be able to quote yourself describing the mechanism of and reasons for division in our country caused by racism. Go ahead and do that.
" The perception that the Republican Party had served as the "vehicle of white supremacy in the South," particularly during the Goldwater campaign and the presidential elections of 1968 and 1972, made it difficult for the Republican Party to win back the support of black voters in the South in later years.[" Wiki


That's (1) not your words and (2) not really much of an explanation for how and why, in your view, racism "continues to divide our country." I don't think you seem to understand what "asked and answered" means.
Waco1947
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GrowlTowel said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

nein51 said:

Waco1947 said:

nein51 said:

People are racist, geography is not.

Not a hard concept really.
Very disingenuous - rural refers to rural people.

You're a moron. Some rural people are racists. Some are not. Some city people are racists. Some are not.

Again. This is a really easy concept. People may be racists; geography is not.

Even when the South had slaves there were southerners who disagreed with that practice. Even though the north was free not every northerner wanted the slaves freed.

See, conceptually this is easy, for almost everyone to understand.
You set up a straw man called "geography" and are trying make some kind of argument about it. Racism still exists. Ask any African American except Tim Scott who believes racism does not exist because his mother's best friend is white. Racism exists.


So what? Great question. Racism continues to divide our country.



How and why, specifically.
Asked and answered


If you have answered specifically how and why racism "continues to divide our country," you should be able to quote yourself describing the mechanism of and reasons for division in our country caused by racism. Go ahead and do that.
" The perception that the Republican Party had served as the "vehicle of white supremacy in the South," particularly during the Goldwater campaign and the presidential elections of 1968 and 1972, made it difficult for the Republican Party to win back the support of black voters in the South in later years.[" Wiki
Another cut and paste?
Yep, but still the truth
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Waco1947
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D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

nein51 said:

Waco1947 said:

nein51 said:

People are racist, geography is not.

Not a hard concept really.
Very disingenuous - rural refers to rural people.

You're a moron. Some rural people are racists. Some are not. Some city people are racists. Some are not.

Again. This is a really easy concept. People may be racists; geography is not.

Even when the South had slaves there were southerners who disagreed with that practice. Even though the north was free not every northerner wanted the slaves freed.

See, conceptually this is easy, for almost everyone to understand.
You set up a straw man called "geography" and are trying make some kind of argument about it. Racism still exists. Ask any African American except Tim Scott who believes racism does not exist because his mother's best friend is white. Racism exists.


So what? Great question. Racism continues to divide our country.



How and why, specifically.
Asked and answered


If you have answered specifically how and why racism "continues to divide our country," you should be able to quote yourself describing the mechanism of and reasons for division in our country caused by racism. Go ahead and do that.
" The perception that the Republican Party had served as the "vehicle of white supremacy in the South," particularly during the Goldwater campaign and the presidential elections of 1968 and 1972, made it difficult for the Republican Party to win back the support of black voters in the South in later years.[" Wiki


That's (1) not your words and (2) not really much of an explanation for how and why, in your view, racism "continues to divide our country." I don't think you seem to understand what "asked and answered" means.
I talk to countless African American people say racism is still real. Don't lie to yourself.
Waco1947 ,la
nein51
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Racism is definitely real. I don't know a single person who thinks otherwise. This is not utopia.
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

nein51 said:

Waco1947 said:

nein51 said:

People are racist, geography is not.

Not a hard concept really.
Very disingenuous - rural refers to rural people.

You're a moron. Some rural people are racists. Some are not. Some city people are racists. Some are not.

Again. This is a really easy concept. People may be racists; geography is not.

Even when the South had slaves there were southerners who disagreed with that practice. Even though the north was free not every northerner wanted the slaves freed.

See, conceptually this is easy, for almost everyone to understand.
You set up a straw man called "geography" and are trying make some kind of argument about it. Racism still exists. Ask any African American except Tim Scott who believes racism does not exist because his mother's best friend is white. Racism exists.


So what? Great question. Racism continues to divide our country.



How and why, specifically.
Asked and answered


If you have answered specifically how and why racism "continues to divide our country," you should be able to quote yourself describing the mechanism of and reasons for division in our country caused by racism. Go ahead and do that.
" The perception that the Republican Party had served as the "vehicle of white supremacy in the South," particularly during the Goldwater campaign and the presidential elections of 1968 and 1972, made it difficult for the Republican Party to win back the support of black voters in the South in later years.[" Wiki


That's (1) not your words and (2) not really much of an explanation for how and why, in your view, racism "continues to divide our country." I don't think you seem to understand what "asked and answered" means.
I talk to countless African American people say racism is still real. Don't lie to yourself.
I am not sure you know any black folks based on some of your comments. I kinda doubt it.

Once again, you perceive all blacks as victims that are in need of help and cannot do for themselves.

Really, really sad and insulting.
"Stand with anyone when he is right; Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong." - Abraham Lincoln
D. C. Bear
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Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

nein51 said:

Waco1947 said:

nein51 said:

People are racist, geography is not.

Not a hard concept really.
Very disingenuous - rural refers to rural people.

You're a moron. Some rural people are racists. Some are not. Some city people are racists. Some are not.

Again. This is a really easy concept. People may be racists; geography is not.

Even when the South had slaves there were southerners who disagreed with that practice. Even though the north was free not every northerner wanted the slaves freed.

See, conceptually this is easy, for almost everyone to understand.
You set up a straw man called "geography" and are trying make some kind of argument about it. Racism still exists. Ask any African American except Tim Scott who believes racism does not exist because his mother's best friend is white. Racism exists.


So what? Great question. Racism continues to divide our country.



How and why, specifically.
Asked and answered


If you have answered specifically how and why racism "continues to divide our country," you should be able to quote yourself describing the mechanism of and reasons for division in our country caused by racism. Go ahead and do that.
" The perception that the Republican Party had served as the "vehicle of white supremacy in the South," particularly during the Goldwater campaign and the presidential elections of 1968 and 1972, made it difficult for the Republican Party to win back the support of black voters in the South in later years.[" Wiki


That's (1) not your words and (2) not really much of an explanation for how and why, in your view, racism "continues to divide our country." I don't think you seem to understand what "asked and answered" means.
I talk to countless African American people say racism is still real. Don't lie to yourself.


I didn't say racism "isn't real." I asked you to define how and why racism "continues to divide our country." So far, you haven't

HOW: Racism continue to divide our country by…
WHY: It is this way because…

If you can answer those questions, my next question is WHAT you think should be done about it, but "racism exists" is not a meaningful response to what I asked.
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Two things come to me immediately:

Racism contributed to an enormous wealth gap that lessens the idea that "all men are created equal." Differences in approach to making sure minorities have equal opportunity play a large role in our division.

The disparate outcomes white and black (not sure about other minorities) face when interacting with the criminal justice system also leads many black to believe they do not have equal protection under the law. And protest as a result.
GrowlTowel
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Waco1947 said:

GrowlTowel said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

nein51 said:

Waco1947 said:

nein51 said:

People are racist, geography is not.

Not a hard concept really.
Very disingenuous - rural refers to rural people.

You're a moron. Some rural people are racists. Some are not. Some city people are racists. Some are not.

Again. This is a really easy concept. People may be racists; geography is not.

Even when the South had slaves there were southerners who disagreed with that practice. Even though the north was free not every northerner wanted the slaves freed.

See, conceptually this is easy, for almost everyone to understand.
You set up a straw man called "geography" and are trying make some kind of argument about it. Racism still exists. Ask any African American except Tim Scott who believes racism does not exist because his mother's best friend is white. Racism exists.


So what? Great question. Racism continues to divide our country.



How and why, specifically.
Asked and answered


If you have answered specifically how and why racism "continues to divide our country," you should be able to quote yourself describing the mechanism of and reasons for division in our country caused by racism. Go ahead and do that.
" The perception that the Republican Party had served as the "vehicle of white supremacy in the South," particularly during the Goldwater campaign and the presidential elections of 1968 and 1972, made it difficult for the Republican Party to win back the support of black voters in the South in later years.[" Wiki
Another cut and paste?
Yep, but still the truth
That you have never had an original thought?
william
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add mcdonalds to the list.

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Waco1947
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

nein51 said:

Waco1947 said:

nein51 said:

People are racist, geography is not.

Not a hard concept really.
Very disingenuous - rural refers to rural people.

You're a moron. Some rural people are racists. Some are not. Some city people are racists. Some are not.

Again. This is a really easy concept. People may be racists; geography is not.

Even when the South had slaves there were southerners who disagreed with that practice. Even though the north was free not every northerner wanted the slaves freed.

See, conceptually this is easy, for almost everyone to understand.
You set up a straw man called "geography" and are trying make some kind of argument about it. Racism still exists. Ask any African American except Tim Scott who believes racism does not exist because his mother's best friend is white. Racism exists.


So what? Great question. Racism continues to divide our country.



How and why, specifically.
Asked and answered


If you have answered specifically how and why racism "continues to divide our country," you should be able to quote yourself describing the mechanism of and reasons for division in our country caused by racism. Go ahead and do that.
" The perception that the Republican Party had served as the "vehicle of white supremacy in the South," particularly during the Goldwater campaign and the presidential elections of 1968 and 1972, made it difficult for the Republican Party to win back the support of black voters in the South in later years.[" Wiki


That's (1) not your words and (2) not really much of an explanation for how and why, in your view, racism "continues to divide our country." I don't think you seem to understand what "asked and answered" means.
I talk to countless African American people say racism is still real. Don't lie to yourself.
I am not sure you know any black folks based on some of your comments. I kinda doubt it.

Once again, you perceive all blacks as victims that are in need of help and cannot do for themselves.

Really, really sad and insulting.
Yeah, I know. I live in a community that is 40% African American.
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Frank Galvin said:

Two things come to me immediately:

Racism contributed to an enormous wealth gap that lessens the idea that "all men are created equal." Differences in approach to making sure minorities have equal opportunity play a large role in our division.

The disparate outcomes white and black (not sure about other minorities) face when interacting with the criminal justice system also leads many black to believe they do not have equal protection under the law. And protest as a result.
Agreeded
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D. C. Bear said:

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nein51 said:

Waco1947 said:

nein51 said:

People are racist, geography is not.

Not a hard concept really.
Very disingenuous - rural refers to rural people.

You're a moron. Some rural people are racists. Some are not. Some city people are racists. Some are not.

Again. This is a really easy concept. People may be racists; geography is not.

Even when the South had slaves there were southerners who disagreed with that practice. Even though the north was free not every northerner wanted the slaves freed.

See, conceptually this is easy, for almost everyone to understand.
You set up a straw man called "geography" and are trying make some kind of argument about it. Racism still exists. Ask any African American except Tim Scott who believes racism does not exist because his mother's best friend is white. Racism exists.


So what? Great question. Racism continues to divide our country.



How and why, specifically.
Asked and answered


If you have answered specifically how and why racism "continues to divide our country," you should be able to quote yourself describing the mechanism of and reasons for division in our country caused by racism. Go ahead and do that.
" The perception that the Republican Party had served as the "vehicle of white supremacy in the South," particularly during the Goldwater campaign and the presidential elections of 1968 and 1972, made it difficult for the Republican Party to win back the support of black voters in the South in later years.[" Wiki


That's (1) not your words and (2) not really much of an explanation for how and why, in your view, racism "continues to divide our country." I don't think you seem to understand what "asked and answered" means.
I talk to countless African American people say racism is still real. Don't lie to yourself.


I didn't say racism "isn't real." I asked you to define how and why racism "continues to divide our country." So far, you haven't

HOW: Racism continue to divide our country by…voter suppression , cut poverty programs, legal system, police brutality, everyday interactions, failure to reach out to blacks to understand their culture or to enter black culture events failure to have real conversations
WHY: It is this way because…whites refuse to read or inter stand black history and our racist past and white resistance

If you can answer those questions, my next question is WHAT you think should be done about it, but "racism exists" is not a meaningful response to what I asked.
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Frank Galvin said:

Two things come to me immediately:

Racism contributed to an enormous wealth gap that lessens the idea that "all men are created equal." Differences in approach to making sure minorities have equal opportunity play a large role in our division.

The disparate outcomes white and black (not sure about other minorities) face when interacting with the criminal justice system also leads many black to believe they do not have equal protection under the law. And protest as a result.

Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness or liberty, equality, fraternity; if you prefer the original version. I don't see wealth on that list anywhere. I don't see equality of outcome on the list.

Why do we care about equity from white to black? We don't care about it from white to white or white to Asian or white to Hispanic (though anyone not black is white these days, I suppose).

Non US blacks tend to do quite well (African immigrants, for example). Am I to believe that a black man born in Alabama has a harder road than a black man born in Zambia?

FTR, I don't wholly disagree with you. Justice is not blind but the best way to avoid that problem is to avoid the justice system entirely; something a HUGE chunk of the population manages to do.
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nein51 said:

Frank Galvin said:

Two things come to me immediately:

Racism contributed to an enormous wealth gap that lessens the idea that "all men are created equal." Differences in approach to making sure minorities have equal opportunity play a large role in our division.

The disparate outcomes white and black (not sure about other minorities) face when interacting with the criminal justice system also leads many black to believe they do not have equal protection under the law. And protest as a result.

Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness or liberty, equality, fraternity; if you prefer the original version. I don't see wealth on that list anywhere. I don't see equality of outcome on the list.

Why do we care about equity from white to black? We don't care about it from white to white or white to Asian or white to Hispanic (though anyone not black is white these days, I suppose).

Non US blacks tend to do quite well (African immigrants, for example). Am I to believe that a black man born in Alabama has a harder road than a black man born in Zambia?

FTR, I don't wholly disagree with you. Justice is not blind but the best way to avoid that problem is to avoid the justice system entirely; something a HUGE chunk of the population manages to do.


Life, liberty and property if you are refer the original version. Life, Liberty and Property predates liberty, equality, fraternity by about a quarter century.

Yes, because no one bothered to tell the black man born in that he better know his place or "the man" was out to get him or that he shouldn't "act white." It is amazing what one can accomplish when one doesn't know what one can't do.

Having said that, Black Americans also tend to do quite well, but that doesn't fit the narrative.
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nein51 said:

Racism is definitely real. I don't know a single person who thinks otherwise. This is not utopia.
Not you per se, but genrally that is a loades statement becuase no one can agree on a definition of "racism." The actual defintion of racism is discrimination based on skin color, but the Orwellian left has attempted to re-brand it so it can apply a scary word to anything it does not like.
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Frank Galvin said:

Two things come to me immediately:

Racism contributed to an enormous wealth gap that lessens the idea that "all men are created equal." Differences in approach to making sure minorities have equal opportunity play a large role in our division.

The disparate outcomes white and black (not sure about other minorities) face when interacting with the criminal justice system also leads many black to believe they do not have equal protection under the law. And protest as a result.
Please share the current HHI in the United States by racial / ethnic group.

Does the U.S. criminal justice system systemically discrimate against men and young people?
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D. C. Bear said:

nein51 said:

Frank Galvin said:

Two things come to me immediately:

Racism contributed to an enormous wealth gap that lessens the idea that "all men are created equal." Differences in approach to making sure minorities have equal opportunity play a large role in our division.

The disparate outcomes white and black (not sure about other minorities) face when interacting with the criminal justice system also leads many black to believe they do not have equal protection under the law. And protest as a result.

Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness or liberty, equality, fraternity; if you prefer the original version. I don't see wealth on that list anywhere. I don't see equality of outcome on the list.

Why do we care about equity from white to black? We don't care about it from white to white or white to Asian or white to Hispanic (though anyone not black is white these days, I suppose).

Non US blacks tend to do quite well (African immigrants, for example). Am I to believe that a black man born in Alabama has a harder road than a black man born in Zambia?

FTR, I don't wholly disagree with you. Justice is not blind but the best way to avoid that problem is to avoid the justice system entirely; something a HUGE chunk of the population manages to do.


Life, liberty and property if you are refer the original version. Life, Liberty and Property predates liberty, equality, fraternity by about a quarter century.

Yes, because no one bothered to tell the black man born in that he better know his place or "the man" was out to get him or that he shouldn't "act white." It is amazing what one can accomplish when one doesn't know what one can't do.

Having said that, Black Americans also tend to do quite well, but that doesn't fit the narrative.

Thanks for the correction.

They do incredibly well compared to black people across the globe. There's no doubt they don't do as well as their white or Asian counterparts.

Why, is the debate, I suppose. I would posit there are a lot of social aspects at play
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Harrison Bergeron said:

nein51 said:

Racism is definitely real. I don't know a single person who thinks otherwise. This is not utopia.
Not you per se, but genrally that is a loades statement becuase no one can agree on a definition of "racism." The actual defintion of racism is discrimination based on skin color, but the Orwellian left has attempted to re-brand it so it can apply a scary word to anything it does not like.

I can't define racism but I know it when I see it. I don't think there's any real debate that racism exists.
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nein51 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

nein51 said:

Racism is definitely real. I don't know a single person who thinks otherwise. This is not utopia.
Not you per se, but genrally that is a loades statement becuase no one can agree on a definition of "racism." The actual defintion of racism is discrimination based on skin color, but the Orwellian left has attempted to re-brand it so it can apply a scary word to anything it does not like.

I can't define racism but I know it when I see it. I don't think there's any real debate that racism exists.
Apologies if it read like I was disputing you ... I don't think it is arguable that 99.99% of people are racist at some level.
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Waco1947 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

D. C. Bear said:

Waco1947 said:

nein51 said:

Waco1947 said:

nein51 said:

People are racist, geography is not.

Not a hard concept really.
Very disingenuous - rural refers to rural people.

You're a moron. Some rural people are racists. Some are not. Some city people are racists. Some are not.

Again. This is a really easy concept. People may be racists; geography is not.

Even when the South had slaves there were southerners who disagreed with that practice. Even though the north was free not every northerner wanted the slaves freed.

See, conceptually this is easy, for almost everyone to understand.
You set up a straw man called "geography" and are trying make some kind of argument about it. Racism still exists. Ask any African American except Tim Scott who believes racism does not exist because his mother's best friend is white. Racism exists.


So what? Great question. Racism continues to divide our country.



How and why, specifically.
Asked and answered


If you have answered specifically how and why racism "continues to divide our country," you should be able to quote yourself describing the mechanism of and reasons for division in our country caused by racism. Go ahead and do that.
" The perception that the Republican Party had served as the "vehicle of white supremacy in the South," particularly during the Goldwater campaign and the presidential elections of 1968 and 1972, made it difficult for the Republican Party to win back the support of black voters in the South in later years.[" Wiki


That's (1) not your words and (2) not really much of an explanation for how and why, in your view, racism "continues to divide our country." I don't think you seem to understand what "asked and answered" means.
I talk to countless African American people say racism is still real. Don't lie to yourself.
I am not sure you know any black folks based on some of your comments. I kinda doubt it.

Once again, you perceive all blacks as victims that are in need of help and cannot do for themselves.

Really, really sad and insulting.
Yeah, I know. I live in a community that is 40% African American.
I would recommend you go outside and meet your neighbors. You might be surprised what you learn.
"Stand with anyone when he is right; Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong." - Abraham Lincoln
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D. C. Bear said:

nein51 said:

Frank Galvin said:

Two things come to me immediately:

Racism contributed to an enormous wealth gap that lessens the idea that "all men are created equal." Differences in approach to making sure minorities have equal opportunity play a large role in our division.

The disparate outcomes white and black (not sure about other minorities) face when interacting with the criminal justice system also leads many black to believe they do not have equal protection under the law. And protest as a result.

Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness or liberty, equality, fraternity; if you prefer the original version. I don't see wealth on that list anywhere. I don't see equality of outcome on the list.

Why do we care about equity from white to black? We don't care about it from white to white or white to Asian or white to Hispanic (though anyone not black is white these days, I suppose).

Non US blacks tend to do quite well (African immigrants, for example). Am I to believe that a black man born in Alabama has a harder road than a black man born in Zambia?

FTR, I don't wholly disagree with you. Justice is not blind but the best way to avoid that problem is to avoid the justice system entirely; something a HUGE chunk of the population manages to do.


Life, liberty and property if you are refer the original version. Life, Liberty and Property predates liberty, equality, fraternity by about a quarter century.

Yes, because no one bothered to tell the black man born in that he better know his place or "the man" was out to get him or that he shouldn't "act white." It is amazing what one can accomplish when one doesn't know what one can't do.

Having said that, Black Americans also tend to do quite well, but that doesn't fit the narrative.
and Black immigrants are among the highest income earners on the scale. Not that such would be relevant to the systemic oppression narrative, or anything.....
 
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