Cocaine in the White House. Invited transexual titties on display on the White House lawn. No conversation with the leader of our biggest rival/ adversary since he has taken office. Government retaliation against whistleblowers speaking out against government corruption. Supreme Court justices threatened at their own homes with ZERO punishment for the domestic terrorists. Has spent more time at his home in Delaware than at the White House. Why should young people be willing to go back to the office if the President of the United States is not willing to do so?Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
No difference. Republican party will call a man a PoS and still vote for him.
Peoples willingness to run like sheep, jumping imaginary hurdles and following incompetent leaders have gotten to where we are now. Both sides ppint fingers and excuse bevavior be using the "he did it first kindergarten logic". America is slowly spiraling downhill due to voters thst toe the party line.
Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
Trump criticized another politician for playing too much golf. Trump played more golf than and presudent in hidtory. He said if he was mominated he would show his finances like everyone else. He didnt.
He is a damn liar. I would trust him any further than i could throw him.
Biden and Trump are both the same
"bizarre staff appointments."KaiBear said:Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
Trump criticized another politician for playing too much golf. Trump played more golf than and presudent in hidtory. He said if he was mominated he would show his finances like everyone else. He didnt.
He is a damn liar. I would trust him any further than i could throw him.
Biden and Trump are both the same
Absurd post, but apparently it's your norm.
You equate lying about golf playing time with a host of Biden's disastrous policies and bizarre staff appointments.
Biden is easily the worst president in American history and most likely the damage he has inflicted upon the country is permanent.
Yes, that's how we know the Biden administration is disastrous. Mean tweets and overdue library books look great right now.ron.reagan said:"bizarre staff appointments."KaiBear said:Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
Trump criticized another politician for playing too much golf. Trump played more golf than and presudent in hidtory. He said if he was mominated he would show his finances like everyone else. He didnt.
He is a damn liar. I would trust him any further than i could throw him.
Biden and Trump are both the same
Absurd post, but apparently it's your norm.
You equate lying about golf playing time with a host of Biden's disastrous policies and bizarre staff appointments.
Biden is easily the worst president in American history and most likely the damage he has inflicted upon the country is permanent.
"host of disastrous policies"
Have you ever had US history?
ron.reagan said:"bizarre staff appointments."KaiBear said:Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
Trump criticized another politician for playing too much golf. Trump played more golf than and presudent in hidtory. He said if he was mominated he would show his finances like everyone else. He didnt.
He is a damn liar. I would trust him any further than i could throw him.
Biden and Trump are both the same
Absurd post, but apparently it's your norm.
You equate lying about golf playing time with a host of Biden's disastrous policies and bizarre staff appointments.
Biden is easily the worst president in American history and most likely the damage he has inflicted upon the country is permanent.
"host of disastrous policies"
Have you ever had US history?
Mothra said:
Vote on policy. I'll say it again, vote on policy. One more time, vote on policy.
Some people are just too dumb to get this very simple concept. That is why we get presidents like Joe Biden.
Conservatives are underestimating the Dems and the numbers out there. They will vote for the larger concept, over an individual. Democrats seem to vote for the vision, not the person. If the GOP continues to do things the way they have, you may see Biden get 100 million votes and beat Trump by 14 million.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Democrats will proudly vote for a candidate with Dementia, Alzheimer's, or severe stroke limitations. Even if it threatens all of our national security and safety.
Republicans will not.
2024. Vote early. Vote often.
Well, according to the Atlantic (I know not a good source) the Dems are selling themselves as the Conservative Party because the GOP has gone so far right that they are just left of Mussolini.Mothra said:
Vote on policy. I'll say it again, vote on policy. One more time, vote on policy.
Some people are just too dumb to get this very simple concept. That is why we get presidents like Joe Biden.
HuMcK said:Mothra said:
Vote on policy. I'll say it again, vote on policy. One more time, vote on policy.
Some people are just too dumb to get this very simple concept. That is why we get presidents like Joe Biden.
Thing about that is, Biden beats Trump even on Trump's preferred metrics. If Trump was President right now with the exact same policy results, all of you would be singing his praises from the rooftops.
Biden's policy has produced record low unemployment rates (after inheriting record highs), all time high O&G energy production (after his predecessor insitigated huge production cuts), a legit manufacturing and re-shoring boom in the US, multiple bi-partisan accomplishments and infrastructure investments that had become a literal punchline under Trump ("it's infrastructure week!"), and on and on. The fly in the ointment of course is inflation, but our inflation rate sits comfortably lower than the rest of the world, and it's still falling fast. The biggest difference is that Trump was handed a thriving and prosperous economy and all he had to do was not screw it up, but Biden was handed something far less than that
Trump's big claims to fame were unemployment rates and "energy independence", but Biden now holds those benchmarks. There is nuance as to why, but Biden in three years has higher net job gains than the last three GOP President's combined. He's done all of this with the headwinds of rising interest rates working against him, as we come out of a black swan event global pandemic and a war in Europe is happening.
You're going to dismiss all of that by chanting "woke" or whatever, but if we listed Biden's accomplishments under Trump's name, then you would be calling it an unprecedented miracle. And he did it without picking any stupid fights or fueds.
FLBear5630 said:Well, according to the Atlantic (I know not a good source) the Dems are selling themselves as the Conservative Party because the GOP has gone so far right that they are just left of Mussolini.Mothra said:
Vote on policy. I'll say it again, vote on policy. One more time, vote on policy.
Some people are just too dumb to get this very simple concept. That is why we get presidents like Joe Biden.
The Democrats Are Now America's Conservative Party (msn.com)
I know nobody pays attention, as 70 million sign up for Zuckerberg's newest addiction...
Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
No difference. Republican party will call a man a PoS and still vote for him.
Peoples willingness to run like sheep, jumping imaginary hurdles and following incompetent leaders have gotten us to where we are now. Both sides point fingers and excuse bevavior by using the "he did it first kindergarten logic". America is slowly spiraling downhill due to voters thst toe the party line.
The idea that Biden's spending package had no effect on inflation is Democrat propaganda and nothing more. He's spent more in his 2 years in office than any president in history, and it's not even close. It's the classic Democrat mantra of believing you can spend without consequence and kick the can down the road. Of course, someday there will be a reckoning, most likely for our kids. The economy is already showing signs of a recession. At some point, the bubble we're in is going to burst.HuMcK said:
There is no credible case that we would not have experienced the same global inflation environment if Trump were President instead of Biden.
History actually indicates that he would have made it far worse. Two of the three stimulus payments conservatives blame inflation for (even though it's not even close to that simple) were given out under Trump, and it was him that got the Fed to keep from raising interest rates in 2018 (right after his giant, wasteful corporate tax cut). He would have stamped his feet about keeping rates low and tried to lower taxes even further, and we would be even worse off than we are.
Biden has kept our inflation rate below all other peer nations, while banking significant investments in infrastructure and high tech manufacturing, and has overseen remarkably robust job growth. He is not perfect, or even close to it, but the strength of our economy continues to defy the doomsayers, our alliances are stronger than ever, and our main enemy is currently getting a daily HIMARS colonic from Ukraine with our regards. Oh yeah, also no mean tweets.
Mothra said:FLBear5630 said:Well, according to the Atlantic (I know not a good source) the Dems are selling themselves as the Conservative Party because the GOP has gone so far right that they are just left of Mussolini.Mothra said:
Vote on policy. I'll say it again, vote on policy. One more time, vote on policy.
Some people are just too dumb to get this very simple concept. That is why we get presidents like Joe Biden.
The Democrats Are Now America's Conservative Party (msn.com)
I know nobody pays attention, as 70 million sign up for Zuckerberg's newest addiction...
The liberal rags love their propaganda. The idea that the Democrats are now the conservative party is total horse***** I think you know that. The Dems are as left as they've ever been. So while the milquetoast republicans complain about how far right the party has gone, there has been a corresponding move to the left by the Dems.
HuMcK said:Mothra said:
Vote on policy. I'll say it again, vote on policy. One more time, vote on policy.
Some people are just too dumb to get this very simple concept. That is why we get presidents like Joe Biden.
Thing about that is, Biden beats Trump even on Trump's preferred metrics. If Trump was President right now with the exact same policy results, all of you would be singing his praises from the rooftops.
Biden's policy has produced record low unemployment rates (after inheriting record highs), all time high O&G energy production (after his predecessor insitigated huge production cuts), a legit manufacturing and re-shoring boom in the US, multiple bi-partisan accomplishments and infrastructure investments that had become a literal punchline under Trump ("it's infrastructure week!"), and on and on. The fly in the ointment of course is inflation, but our inflation rate sits comfortably lower than the rest of the world, and it's still falling fast. The biggest difference is that Trump was handed a thriving and prosperous economy and all he had to do was not screw it up, but Biden was handed something far less than that
Trump's big claims to fame were unemployment rates and "energy independence", but Biden now holds those benchmarks. There is nuance as to why, but Biden in three years has higher net job gains than the last three GOP President's combined. He's done all of this with the headwinds of rising interest rates working against him, as we come out of a black swan event global pandemic and a war in Europe is happening.
You're going to dismiss all of that by chanting "woke" or whatever, but if we listed Biden's accomplishments under Trump's name, then you would be calling it an unprecedented miracle. And he did it without picking any stupid fights or fueds.
The problem is you're defining Biden's behavior as a standard and comparing it to Trump as if others think it's the standard.HuMcK said:
There is no credible case that we would not have experienced the same global inflation environment if Trump were President instead of Biden.
History actually indicates that he would have made it far worse. Two of the three stimulus payments conservatives blame inflation for (even though it's not even close to that simple) were given out under Trump, and it was him that got the Fed to keep from raising interest rates in 2018 (right after his giant, wasteful corporate tax cut). He would have stamped his feet about keeping rates low and tried to lower taxes even further, and we would be even worse off than we are.
Biden has kept our inflation rate below all other peer nations, while banking significant investments in infrastructure and high tech manufacturing, and has overseen remarkably robust job growth. He is not perfect, or even close to it, but the strength of our economy continues to defy the doomsayers, our alliances are stronger than ever, and our main enemy is currently getting a daily HIMARS colonic from Ukraine with our regards. Oh yeah, also no mean tweets.
If this is the case then our country is screwed.FLBear5630 said:Mothra said:FLBear5630 said:Well, according to the Atlantic (I know not a good source) the Dems are selling themselves as the Conservative Party because the GOP has gone so far right that they are just left of Mussolini.Mothra said:
Vote on policy. I'll say it again, vote on policy. One more time, vote on policy.
Some people are just too dumb to get this very simple concept. That is why we get presidents like Joe Biden.
The Democrats Are Now America's Conservative Party (msn.com)
I know nobody pays attention, as 70 million sign up for Zuckerberg's newest addiction...
The liberal rags love their propaganda. The idea that the Democrats are now the conservative party is total horse***** I think you know that. The Dems are as left as they've ever been. So while the milquetoast republicans complain about how far right the party has gone, there has been a corresponding move to the left by the Dems.
I agree, Dem is not conservative. You are missing my point, not that they are right but there are more of them than this Board thinks and this Board is not mainstream voters. To win, the GOP needs the milquetoast Republicans and the independents that believe what is written. Antagonize zing them is not gonna get them to vote Conservative. For example, right now many young people believe Biden is the only one trying to help them on student loans. Telling them you took the loan, deal with it is not gonna get them to vote GOP. I think we overestimate the number of conservatives.
Let's discuss that. What items can DC do better that would impact an election?Doc Holliday said:The problem is you're defining Biden's behavior as a standard and comparing it to Trump as if others think it's the standard.HuMcK said:
There is no credible case that we would not have experienced the same global inflation environment if Trump were President instead of Biden.
History actually indicates that he would have made it far worse. Two of the three stimulus payments conservatives blame inflation for (even though it's not even close to that simple) were given out under Trump, and it was him that got the Fed to keep from raising interest rates in 2018 (right after his giant, wasteful corporate tax cut). He would have stamped his feet about keeping rates low and tried to lower taxes even further, and we would be even worse off than we are.
Biden has kept our inflation rate below all other peer nations, while banking significant investments in infrastructure and high tech manufacturing, and has overseen remarkably robust job growth. He is not perfect, or even close to it, but the strength of our economy continues to defy the doomsayers, our alliances are stronger than ever, and our main enemy is currently getting a daily HIMARS colonic from Ukraine with our regards. Oh yeah, also no mean tweets.
Presidents and DC as a whole has been a sh it show for decades and there's absolutely nothing to praise.
You need to change your perception about the establishment and stop riding their dicks.
Thats not the reality.FLBear5630 said:Let's discuss that. What items can DC do better that would impact an election?Doc Holliday said:The problem is you're defining Biden's behavior as a standard and comparing it to Trump as if others think it's the standard.HuMcK said:
There is no credible case that we would not have experienced the same global inflation environment if Trump were President instead of Biden.
History actually indicates that he would have made it far worse. Two of the three stimulus payments conservatives blame inflation for (even though it's not even close to that simple) were given out under Trump, and it was him that got the Fed to keep from raising interest rates in 2018 (right after his giant, wasteful corporate tax cut). He would have stamped his feet about keeping rates low and tried to lower taxes even further, and we would be even worse off than we are.
Biden has kept our inflation rate below all other peer nations, while banking significant investments in infrastructure and high tech manufacturing, and has overseen remarkably robust job growth. He is not perfect, or even close to it, but the strength of our economy continues to defy the doomsayers, our alliances are stronger than ever, and our main enemy is currently getting a daily HIMARS colonic from Ukraine with our regards. Oh yeah, also no mean tweets.
Presidents and DC as a whole has been a sh it show for decades and there's absolutely nothing to praise.
You need to change your perception about the establishment and stop riding their dicks.
1- Border, no doubt
Others? Keep in mind States responsibilities vs Fed. Health care? That is a State function. Crime, State function.
Biden trying to help on Student Loans vs GOP not, is going to be a tough message to get around. Take responsibility for your loan because I did is not going to sway alot of people....
We are talking 2 different things. You are correct. But those with these loans for decades or the prospect of decades believe the Fed Govt should offset the cost of education. They see Biden as a champion of their cause, the only one in power that actually tried to do something. I know several conservatives that hate Biden but will vote for him on this one issue. This is THE issue that will move the younger generations to the polls, not to the GOP's benefit.Doc Holliday said:Thats not the reality.FLBear5630 said:Let's discuss that. What items can DC do better that would impact an election?Doc Holliday said:The problem is you're defining Biden's behavior as a standard and comparing it to Trump as if others think it's the standard.HuMcK said:
There is no credible case that we would not have experienced the same global inflation environment if Trump were President instead of Biden.
History actually indicates that he would have made it far worse. Two of the three stimulus payments conservatives blame inflation for (even though it's not even close to that simple) were given out under Trump, and it was him that got the Fed to keep from raising interest rates in 2018 (right after his giant, wasteful corporate tax cut). He would have stamped his feet about keeping rates low and tried to lower taxes even further, and we would be even worse off than we are.
Biden has kept our inflation rate below all other peer nations, while banking significant investments in infrastructure and high tech manufacturing, and has overseen remarkably robust job growth. He is not perfect, or even close to it, but the strength of our economy continues to defy the doomsayers, our alliances are stronger than ever, and our main enemy is currently getting a daily HIMARS colonic from Ukraine with our regards. Oh yeah, also no mean tweets.
Presidents and DC as a whole has been a sh it show for decades and there's absolutely nothing to praise.
You need to change your perception about the establishment and stop riding their dicks.
1- Border, no doubt
Others? Keep in mind States responsibilities vs Fed. Health care? That is a State function. Crime, State function.
Biden trying to help on Student Loans vs GOP not, is going to be a tough message to get around. Take responsibility for your loan because I did is not going to sway alot of people....
It's asking taxpayers to pay for those loans without even addressing tuition and the federal structure of student loans.
You highlight another key difference between Republicans and Democrats. Republicans believe they should pay their bills. Democrats believe someone else should pay their bills.FLBear5630 said:But those with these loans for decades or the prospect of decades believe the Fed Govt should offset the cost of education. They see Biden as a champion of their cause, the only one in power that actually tried to do something. I know several conservatives that hate Biden but will vote for him on this one issue. This is THE issue that will move the younger generations to the polls, not to the GOP's benefit.Doc Holliday said:Thats not the reality.FLBear5630 said:Let's discuss that. What items can DC do better that would impact an election?Doc Holliday said:The problem is you're defining Biden's behavior as a standard and comparing it to Trump as if others think it's the standard.HuMcK said:
There is no credible case that we would not have experienced the same global inflation environment if Trump were President instead of Biden.
History actually indicates that he would have made it far worse. Two of the three stimulus payments conservatives blame inflation for (even though it's not even close to that simple) were given out under Trump, and it was him that got the Fed to keep from raising interest rates in 2018 (right after his giant, wasteful corporate tax cut). He would have stamped his feet about keeping rates low and tried to lower taxes even further, and we would be even worse off than we are.
Biden has kept our inflation rate below all other peer nations, while banking significant investments in infrastructure and high tech manufacturing, and has overseen remarkably robust job growth. He is not perfect, or even close to it, but the strength of our economy continues to defy the doomsayers, our alliances are stronger than ever, and our main enemy is currently getting a daily HIMARS colonic from Ukraine with our regards. Oh yeah, also no mean tweets.
Presidents and DC as a whole has been a sh it show for decades and there's absolutely nothing to praise.
You need to change your perception about the establishment and stop riding their dicks.
1- Border, no doubt
Others? Keep in mind States responsibilities vs Fed. Health care? That is a State function. Crime, State function.
Biden trying to help on Student Loans vs GOP not, is going to be a tough message to get around. Take responsibility for your loan because I did is not going to sway alot of people....
It's asking taxpayers to pay for those loans without even addressing tuition and the federal structure of student loans.
Not wrong, at least on certain things.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:You highlight another key difference between Republicans and Democrats. Republicans believe they should pay their bills. Democrats believe someone else should pay their bills.FLBear5630 said:But those with these loans for decades or the prospect of decades believe the Fed Govt should offset the cost of education. They see Biden as a champion of their cause, the only one in power that actually tried to do something. I know several conservatives that hate Biden but will vote for him on this one issue. This is THE issue that will move the younger generations to the polls, not to the GOP's benefit.Doc Holliday said:Thats not the reality.FLBear5630 said:Let's discuss that. What items can DC do better that would impact an election?Doc Holliday said:The problem is you're defining Biden's behavior as a standard and comparing it to Trump as if others think it's the standard.HuMcK said:
There is no credible case that we would not have experienced the same global inflation environment if Trump were President instead of Biden.
History actually indicates that he would have made it far worse. Two of the three stimulus payments conservatives blame inflation for (even though it's not even close to that simple) were given out under Trump, and it was him that got the Fed to keep from raising interest rates in 2018 (right after his giant, wasteful corporate tax cut). He would have stamped his feet about keeping rates low and tried to lower taxes even further, and we would be even worse off than we are.
Biden has kept our inflation rate below all other peer nations, while banking significant investments in infrastructure and high tech manufacturing, and has overseen remarkably robust job growth. He is not perfect, or even close to it, but the strength of our economy continues to defy the doomsayers, our alliances are stronger than ever, and our main enemy is currently getting a daily HIMARS colonic from Ukraine with our regards. Oh yeah, also no mean tweets.
Presidents and DC as a whole has been a sh it show for decades and there's absolutely nothing to praise.
You need to change your perception about the establishment and stop riding their dicks.
1- Border, no doubt
Others? Keep in mind States responsibilities vs Fed. Health care? That is a State function. Crime, State function.
Biden trying to help on Student Loans vs GOP not, is going to be a tough message to get around. Take responsibility for your loan because I did is not going to sway alot of people....
It's asking taxpayers to pay for those loans without even addressing tuition and the federal structure of student loans.
Panhandling and asking for handouts has become mainstream and popular. GoFundMe is a great example.
FLBear5630 said:Mothra said:FLBear5630 said:Well, according to the Atlantic (I know not a good source) the Dems are selling themselves as the Conservative Party because the GOP has gone so far right that they are just left of Mussolini.Mothra said:
Vote on policy. I'll say it again, vote on policy. One more time, vote on policy.
Some people are just too dumb to get this very simple concept. That is why we get presidents like Joe Biden.
The Democrats Are Now America's Conservative Party (msn.com)
I know nobody pays attention, as 70 million sign up for Zuckerberg's newest addiction...
The liberal rags love their propaganda. The idea that the Democrats are now the conservative party is total horse***** I think you know that. The Dems are as left as they've ever been. So while the milquetoast republicans complain about how far right the party has gone, there has been a corresponding move to the left by the Dems.
I agree, Dem is not conservative. You are missing my point, not that they are right but there are more of them than this Board thinks and this Board is not mainstream voters. To win, the GOP needs the milquetoast Republicans and the independents that believe what is written. Antagonize zing them is not gonna get them to vote Conservative. For example, right now many young people believe Biden is the only one trying to help them on student loans. Telling them you took the loan, deal with it is not gonna get them to vote GOP. I think we overestimate the number of conservatives.
Democracy maybe, but definitely not ideology.Doc Holliday said:You can't cede policy and ideology just to win a title.FLBear5630 said:Mothra said:FLBear5630 said:Well, according to the Atlantic (I know not a good source) the Dems are selling themselves as the Conservative Party because the GOP has gone so far right that they are just left of Mussolini.Mothra said:
Vote on policy. I'll say it again, vote on policy. One more time, vote on policy.
Some people are just too dumb to get this very simple concept. That is why we get presidents like Joe Biden.
The Democrats Are Now America's Conservative Party (msn.com)
I know nobody pays attention, as 70 million sign up for Zuckerberg's newest addiction...
The liberal rags love their propaganda. The idea that the Democrats are now the conservative party is total horse***** I think you know that. The Dems are as left as they've ever been. So while the milquetoast republicans complain about how far right the party has gone, there has been a corresponding move to the left by the Dems.
I agree, Dem is not conservative. You are missing my point, not that they are right but there are more of them than this Board thinks and this Board is not mainstream voters. To win, the GOP needs the milquetoast Republicans and the independents that believe what is written. Antagonize zing them is not gonna get them to vote Conservative. For example, right now many young people believe Biden is the only one trying to help them on student loans. Telling them you took the loan, deal with it is not gonna get them to vote GOP. I think we overestimate the number of conservatives.
I agree. There is enough room for the Trumps to the Romney's.Mothra said:FLBear5630 said:Mothra said:FLBear5630 said:Well, according to the Atlantic (I know not a good source) the Dems are selling themselves as the Conservative Party because the GOP has gone so far right that they are just left of Mussolini.Mothra said:
Vote on policy. I'll say it again, vote on policy. One more time, vote on policy.
Some people are just too dumb to get this very simple concept. That is why we get presidents like Joe Biden.
The Democrats Are Now America's Conservative Party (msn.com)
I know nobody pays attention, as 70 million sign up for Zuckerberg's newest addiction...
The liberal rags love their propaganda. The idea that the Democrats are now the conservative party is total horse***** I think you know that. The Dems are as left as they've ever been. So while the milquetoast republicans complain about how far right the party has gone, there has been a corresponding move to the left by the Dems.
I agree, Dem is not conservative. You are missing my point, not that they are right but there are more of them than this Board thinks and this Board is not mainstream voters. To win, the GOP needs the milquetoast Republicans and the independents that believe what is written. Antagonize zing them is not gonna get them to vote Conservative. For example, right now many young people believe Biden is the only one trying to help them on student loans. Telling them you took the loan, deal with it is not gonna get them to vote GOP. I think we overestimate the number of conservatives.
This seems to be a different point than the one I responded to - one that I don't necessarily disagree with. But the difference between us is I don't think anyone is trying to antagonize voters such as yourself. I think the party has a big enough tent for you and the righter wingers. Let's focus on the common ground and go from there.
FLBear5630 said:I agree. There is enough room for the Trumps to the Romney's.Mothra said:FLBear5630 said:Mothra said:FLBear5630 said:Well, according to the Atlantic (I know not a good source) the Dems are selling themselves as the Conservative Party because the GOP has gone so far right that they are just left of Mussolini.Mothra said:
Vote on policy. I'll say it again, vote on policy. One more time, vote on policy.
Some people are just too dumb to get this very simple concept. That is why we get presidents like Joe Biden.
The Democrats Are Now America's Conservative Party (msn.com)
I know nobody pays attention, as 70 million sign up for Zuckerberg's newest addiction...
The liberal rags love their propaganda. The idea that the Democrats are now the conservative party is total horse***** I think you know that. The Dems are as left as they've ever been. So while the milquetoast republicans complain about how far right the party has gone, there has been a corresponding move to the left by the Dems.
I agree, Dem is not conservative. You are missing my point, not that they are right but there are more of them than this Board thinks and this Board is not mainstream voters. To win, the GOP needs the milquetoast Republicans and the independents that believe what is written. Antagonize zing them is not gonna get them to vote Conservative. For example, right now many young people believe Biden is the only one trying to help them on student loans. Telling them you took the loan, deal with it is not gonna get them to vote GOP. I think we overestimate the number of conservatives.
This seems to be a different point than the one I responded to - one that I don't necessarily disagree with. But the difference between us is I don't think anyone is trying to antagonize voters such as yourself. I think the party has a big enough tent for you and the righter wingers. Let's focus on the common ground and go from there.
My point is that in order to win, the GOP has to offer an alternative to what the Dems are pushing that will make people's lives better on issues that matter to those on the fence. Fixing health care, student loan debt, affordable housing, etc...
They may agree on border issues, but in real life it does not impact the wide swath needed to pull over those that are on the fence. I am not seeing or hearing GOP alternatives to the issues the Dems will push. You may vote on policy, but you are the minority.
Do you want to win and be in a position to make incremental changes. Or, watch Biden give away the farm, push a Progressive agenda and roll over around the world? Pick one, I prefer health care and affordable housing. But, if it is cheaper to do Student Loans, I can live with it.KaiBear said:FLBear5630 said:I agree. There is enough room for the Trumps to the Romney's.Mothra said:FLBear5630 said:Mothra said:FLBear5630 said:Well, according to the Atlantic (I know not a good source) the Dems are selling themselves as the Conservative Party because the GOP has gone so far right that they are just left of Mussolini.Mothra said:
Vote on policy. I'll say it again, vote on policy. One more time, vote on policy.
Some people are just too dumb to get this very simple concept. That is why we get presidents like Joe Biden.
The Democrats Are Now America's Conservative Party (msn.com)
I know nobody pays attention, as 70 million sign up for Zuckerberg's newest addiction...
The liberal rags love their propaganda. The idea that the Democrats are now the conservative party is total horse***** I think you know that. The Dems are as left as they've ever been. So while the milquetoast republicans complain about how far right the party has gone, there has been a corresponding move to the left by the Dems.
I agree, Dem is not conservative. You are missing my point, not that they are right but there are more of them than this Board thinks and this Board is not mainstream voters. To win, the GOP needs the milquetoast Republicans and the independents that believe what is written. Antagonize zing them is not gonna get them to vote Conservative. For example, right now many young people believe Biden is the only one trying to help them on student loans. Telling them you took the loan, deal with it is not gonna get them to vote GOP. I think we overestimate the number of conservatives.
This seems to be a different point than the one I responded to - one that I don't necessarily disagree with. But the difference between us is I don't think anyone is trying to antagonize voters such as yourself. I think the party has a big enough tent for you and the righter wingers. Let's focus on the common ground and go from there.
My point is that in order to win, the GOP has to offer an alternative to what the Dems are pushing that will make people's lives better on issues that matter to those on the fence. Fixing health care, student loan debt, affordable housing, etc...
They may agree on border issues, but in real life it does not impact the wide swath needed to pull over those that are on the fence. I am not seeing or hearing GOP alternatives to the issues the Dems will push. You may vote on policy, but you are the minority.
So republicans need to successfully outbid democrats for the votes of debt riddled , fundamentally lazy , half ignorant voters when our national debt is threatening to destroy our entire economic system?
I always love it when our President is on the golf course. This includes Barack Obama, Donald Trump, and Nose Candy Joe. It means they are not spending money we don't have and they are not ****ing up the country. At least for a few hours.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
You really hate democracy dont you? You seem unwilling to accept the decisions of the voters.
Btw i wasnt criticizing Trumps golf time. The more time he wasted the better. I was pointing out his hypocrisy . Its a difficult point but i thought you could handle it. I often overestimate posters. It may be time for you to change your name again
