Titus and Titus said:

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whiterock said:

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LOL Jewish fundamentalism as a threat to international order?

You guys are working awfully hard to give yourselves a bad name....

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Judaism teaches Tikkun Olam or "repairing the world". Which completely denies the fact that Christ has already saved the world.

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Tikkun Olam means good actions make the world better. I can't see anyone having a problem with this.

TWD 1974 said:

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Titus and Titus said:

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whiterock said:

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LOL Jewish fundamentalism as a threat to international order?

You guys are working awfully hard to give yourselves a bad name....

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Judaism teaches Tikkun Olam or "repairing the world". Which completely denies the fact that Christ has already saved the world.

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Tikkun Olam means good actions make the world better. I can't see
anyone having a problem with this.

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It means "repairing the world" as rabbinic literature (the Talmud) teaches. Christ had already done this. Denying Christ is the problem.

Titus and Titus said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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Titus and Titus said:

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whiterock said:

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LOL Jewish fundamentalism as a threat to international order?

You guys are working awfully hard to give yourselves a bad name....

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Judaism teaches Tikkun Olam or "repairing the world". Which completely denies the fact that Christ has already saved the world.

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Tikkun Olam means good actions make the world better. I can't see
anyone having a problem with this.

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It means "repairing the world" as rabbinic literature (the Talmud) teaches. Christ had already done this. Denying Christ is the problem.

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You sound like the idea that Jews reject Christianity is a surprise to you. They do not accept Jesus as the Son of God and generally reject the idea of salvation.

More generally, tikkun can mean improvement, establishment, repair, prepare, and more. In this Mishnaic context it generally refers to practical legal measures taken in the present to ameliorate social conditions.

TWD 1974 said:

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Titus and Titus said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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Titus and Titus said:

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whiterock said:

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LOL Jewish fundamentalism as a threat to international order?

You guys are working awfully hard to give yourselves a bad name....

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Judaism teaches Tikkun Olam or "repairing the world". Which completely denies the fact that Christ has already saved the world.

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Tikkun Olam means good actions make the world better. I can't see
anyone having a problem with this.

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It means "repairing the world" as rabbinic literature (the Talmud) teaches. Christ had already done this. Denying Christ is the problem.

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You sound like the idea that Jews reject Christianity is a surprise to you. They do not accept Jesus as the Son of God and generally reject the idea of salvation.

More generally, tikkun can mean improvement, establishment, repair, prepare, and more. In this Mishnaic context it generally refers to practical legal measures taken in the present to ameliorate social conditions.

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Attempting to repair the world without acknowledging Christ is clearly misguided. At best it's futile. At worst it's a direct attack against Christianity.

TWD 1974 said:

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Titus and Titus said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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Titus and Titus said:

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whiterock said:

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LOL Jewish fundamentalism as a threat to international order?

You guys are working awfully hard to give yourselves a bad name....

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Judaism teaches Tikkun Olam or "repairing the world". Which completely denies the fact that Christ has already saved the world.

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Tikkun Olam means good actions make the world better. I can't see
anyone having a problem with this.

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It means "repairing the world" as rabbinic literature (the Talmud) teaches. Christ had already done this. Denying Christ is the problem.

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You sound like the idea that Jews reject Christianity is a surprise to you. They do not accept Jesus as the Son of God and generally reject the idea of salvation.

More generally, tikkun can mean improvement, establishment, repair, prepare, and more. In this Mishnaic context it generally refers to practical legal measures taken in the present to ameliorate social conditions.

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i got this from wiki
In the modern era, particularly among the post-Haskalah movements, tikkun olam has come to refer to the pursuit of social justice[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tikkun_olam#cite_note-:0-1][1][/url] or "the establishment of Godly qualities throughout the world"[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tikkun_olam#cite_note-jilljacobs-2][2][/url] based on the idea that "Jews bear responsibility not only for their own moral, spiritual, and material welfare, but also for the welfare of society at large".[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tikkun_olam#cite_note-shatzwaxmandiament-3][3[/url]

This could explain why so many jews push for liberalism, abortion, trans and hiomosexuality. They see it as righteous and need to push this on society.

Doing good is a direct attack on Christianity.

I have now heard everything.

Is the Talmud the source of the prohibition against rolling on Shabbos?

fubar said:

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Doing good is a direct attack on Christianity.

I have now heard everything.

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You are so right.

My guess i is that 5.4 billion people were stupid enough to be born in another culture.

2.6 billion chose Christian parents.

I wonder when and where these decisions about birthplace are made?
Probably in heaven .when we are given a scrap boo to choose. I cose Waco, Texas

The arrogance of Christians is really mind boggling.

TenBears said:

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Is the Talmud the source of the prohibition against rolling Shabbos?

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Nobody ***s with The Jesus, man.

fubar said:

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Doing good is a direct attack on Christianity.

I have now heard everything.

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beam me up, scotty!

fubar said:

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Doing good is a direct attack on Christianity.

I have now heard everything.

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Clearly you have not read the Talmud.
Tikkun Olam sounds good until you realize it's part of the reason Christian prayer was removed from schools as well as plenty of policies that go against traditional Christian values.

Titus and Titus said:

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fubar said:

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Doing good is a direct attack on Christianity.

I have now heard everything.

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Clearly you have not read the Talmud.
Tikkun Olam sounds good until you realize it's part of the reason Christian prayer was removed from schools as well as plenty of policies that go against traditional Christian values.

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So, again, it's the Jews fault. People of other faiths or no faith have been opposed to being forced to pray, or observe the prayer silently, which is a slightly milder version of making people wear the Star of David--it brands them for all to observe.
The Supreme Court Decision against the Standard prayer in NY Schools in 1962 was based upon the First Amendment to the US Constitution--"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion." And no, there is no evidence that James Madison or Gouverneur Morris had ever read the Talmud.

TWD 1974 said:

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Titus and Titus said:

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fubar said:

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Doing good is a direct attack on Christianity.

I have now heard everything.

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Clearly you have not read the Talmud.
Tikkun Olam sounds good until you realize it's part of the reason Christian prayer was removed from schools as well as plenty of policies that go against traditional Christian values.

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So, again, it's the Jews fault. People of other faiths or no faith have been opposed to being forced to pray, or observe the prayer silently, which is a slightly milder version of making people wear the Star of David--it brands them for all to observe.
The Supreme Court Decision against the Standard prayer in NY Schools in 1962 was based upon the First Amendment to the US Constitution--"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion." And no, there is no evidence that James Madison or Gouverneur Morris had ever read the Talmud.

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Have you read the Talmud?

Why do you bring up Madison and Morris and not the Justices who made the decision?

Titus and Titus said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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Titus and Titus said:

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fubar said:

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Doing good is a direct attack on Christianity.

I have now heard everything.

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Clearly you have not read the Talmud.
Tikkun Olam sounds good until you realize it's part of the reason Christian prayer was removed from schools as well as plenty of policies that go against traditional Christian values.

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So, again, it's the Jews fault. People of other faiths or no faith have been opposed to being forced to pray, or observe the prayer silently, which is a slightly milder version of making people wear the Star of David--it brands them for all to observe.
The Supreme Court Decision against the Standard prayer in NY Schools in 1962 was based upon the First Amendment to the US Constitution--"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion." And no, there is no evidence that James Madison or Gouverneur Morris had ever read the Talmud.

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Have you read the Talmud?

Why do you bring up Madison and Morris and not the Justices who made the decision?

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No. No one on this site has read the Babylonian or Jerusalem Talmud. Including yourself. You are getting your s--t from some hand-me-down internet thing that gives you some talking points. good for you. It's also probably Antisemitic, but that is not necessarily your fault if you are unaware of it. I have known people that have read the Talmud and can tell you it contains volumes of study that would take months to years to absorb. It is immense, contradictory, and difficult to navigate.
I mentioned Madison because you mentioned School prayer and other "Christian Values" being undone by Talmudic thought, which is the most ludicrous statement you have made in among a plethora of such. The Talmud is studied by only a fraction of Jews in this country. Jews have always been a tiny minority with our Country. Decisions like School Prayer, if you want to blame someone, blame James Madison because he wrote the First Amendment.

TWD 1974 said:

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Titus and Titus said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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Titus and Titus said:

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fubar said:

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Doing good is a direct attack on Christianity.

I have now heard everything.

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Clearly you have not read the Talmud.
Tikkun Olam sounds good until you realize it's part of the reason Christian prayer was removed from schools as well as plenty of policies that go against traditional Christian values.

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So, again, it's the Jews fault. People of other faiths or no faith have been opposed to being forced to pray, or observe the prayer silently, which is a slightly milder version of making people wear the Star of David--it brands them for all to observe.
The Supreme Court Decision against the Standard prayer in NY Schools in 1962 was based upon the First Amendment to the US Constitution--"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion." And no, there is no evidence that James Madison or Gouverneur Morris had ever read the Talmud.

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Have you read the Talmud?

Why do you bring up Madison and Morris and not the Justices who made the decision?

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No. No one on this site has read the Babylonian or Jerusalem Talmud. Including yourself. You are getting your s--t from some hand-me-down internet thing that gives you some talking points. good for you. It's also probably Antisemitic, but that is not necessarily your fault if you are unaware of it. I have known people that have read the Talmud and can tell you it contains volumes of study that would take months to years to absorb. It is immense, contradictory, and difficult to navigate.
I mentioned Madison because you mentioned School prayer and other "Christian Values" being undone by Talmudic thought, which is the most ludicrous statement you have made in among a plethora of such. The Talmud is studied by only a fraction of Jews in this country. Jews have always been a tiny minority with our Country. Decisions like School Prayer, if you want to blame someone, blame James Madison because he wrote the First Amendment.

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Please read the Talmud if you are going to give any further input.

I skimmed a couple of chapters. Geez-a-Lou. Incomprehensible, and I'm a skeptical anyone has actually made it through the whole thing with any semblance of understanding what on earth it means.

TenBears said:

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I skimmed a couple of chapters. Geez-a-Lou. Incomprehensible, and I'm a skeptical anyone has actually made it through the whole thing with any semblance of understanding what on earth it means.

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Luckily the Disputation of Paris gives us some clarity. Plenty has been said on this thread that previous commenters want to ignore. I recommend finding a physical copy of the Mishnah and cross referencing it with verses that have been highlighted in this thread

Mishnah Niddah 5:4 is perhaps one of the most potent examples that previous commenters would like us to ignore.

Titus and Titus said:

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whiterock said:

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LOL Jewish fundamentalism as a threat to international order?

You guys are working awfully hard to give yourselves a bad name....

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Judaism teaches Tikkun Olam or "repairing the world". Which completely denies the fact that Christ has already saved the world.

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What else would we expect?
What religion would develop theology recognizing the legitimacy of another faith?
Does any other religion in the world recognize Christ as redeemer?
(Islam comes close, recognizing him as a great prophet).

It's not at all -phobic for a particular religion to critique the legitimacy of other theologies/faiths. Such happens all over the place between sects of the same religion? Do Catholics not have well developed theology which casts doubt the salvation of Protestants?

It's worth mentioning that if we were to subject any other middle east country to such critique we would find more than theological derision going on. We'd find well-developed, thoroughly encompassing law enforcing onerous second-class citizenship on non-believers which dwarfs anything being critiqued here........

Titus and Titus said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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Titus and Titus said:

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TWD 1974 said:

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Titus and Titus said:

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fubar said:

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Doing good is a direct attack on Christianity.

I have now heard everything.

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Clearly you have not read the Talmud.
Tikkun Olam sounds good until you realize it's part of the reason Christian prayer was removed from schools as well as plenty of policies that go against traditional Christian values.

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So, again, it's the Jews fault. People of other faiths or no faith have been opposed to being forced to pray, or observe the prayer silently, which is a slightly milder version of making people wear the Star of David--it brands them for all to observe.
The Supreme Court Decision against the Standard prayer in NY Schools in 1962 was based upon the First Amendment to the US Constitution--"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion." And no, there is no evidence that James Madison or Gouverneur Morris had ever read the Talmud.

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Have you read the Talmud?

Why do you bring up Madison and Morris and not the Justices who made the decision?

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No. No one on this site has read the Babylonian or Jerusalem Talmud. Including yourself. You are getting your s--t from some hand-me-down internet thing that gives you some talking points. good for you. It's also probably Antisemitic, but that is not necessarily your fault if you are unaware of it. I have known people that have read the Talmud and can tell you it contains volumes of study that would take months to years to absorb. It is immense, contradictory, and difficult to navigate.
I mentioned Madison because you mentioned School prayer and other "Christian Values" being undone by Talmudic thought, which is the most ludicrous statement you have made in among a plethora of such. The Talmud is studied by only a fraction of Jews in this country. Jews have always been a tiny minority with our Country. Decisions like School Prayer, if you want to blame someone, blame James Madison because he wrote the First Amendment.

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Please read the Talmud if you are going to give any further input.

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If you read the 2 million words of it, congratulations. You seem to have made the effort to find dirt on another religion. I do not feel the need for that, in fact, I find such efforts anti Christian as well as anti-Jewish.

This Kabbalah 'tree of life' joke did have me laughing…