"Rich Men North of Richmond" folk singer Oliver Anthony goes viral

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Jack Bauer
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KaiBear said:

Jack Bauer said:

It's about this BS...



This just can't be forreal.

Prohibition-lite...
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KaiBear said:

Jack Bauer said:

It's about this BS...



This just can't be for real.
only 2 and they have to be bud light..
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bear2be2
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Jack Bauer said:

It's about this BS...



Is anyone actually impacted by government health recommendations, though? Toothless health "guidelines" from unnecessary bureaucrats have been a part of American life forever. This isn't something anyone will ever enforce.

On the list of things to get worked up about, this one is pretty low. Silly, yes, but it's just a distraction from the more harmful things government is doing to or not doing for the middle class.
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bear2be2 said:

Jack Bauer said:

It's about this BS...



Is anyone actually impacted by government health recommendations, though? Toothless health "guidelines" from unnecessary bureaucrats have been a part of American life forever. This isn't something anyone will ever enforce.

On the list of things to get worked up about, this one is pretty low. Silly, yes, but it's just a distraction from the more harmful things government is doing to or not doing for the middle class.
Until they start denying/limiting medical treatment to people who are not compliant with recommendations.

Before you say that will never happen, go back and look at what happened 2020-2021. Bureaucrats will grab & stretch for anything to justify stretching their power to the far edge of the margins. All they need is a spark of inspiration.
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Whiskey Pete
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Malbec said:

bear2be2 said:

Rawhide said:

bear2be2 said:

Malbec said:

Reporter: So Mr. Anthony, tell us about your new song.

OA: I hope everyone will listen to it. It's an anti-Big Dairy anthem called Down With Cheese.

Reporter: So it must call out the culprits of milk weaponization in our country, the Big Dairy execs.

OA: Why would it do that? They didn't create this travesty! It was the Jerseys, Guernseys and Holsteins! And I am so tired of people twisting my thoughts to their own agendas. Those execs are the ones trying to rescue us from the evil Butter Lobby and Pro Bovine PACs. Our milk ain't worth **** because of those damn cows, and they try to turn my words around on the people who feed and milk them. You know they are all bought and sold right?
Only not at all.

"Rich Men North of Richmond" calls out all "Rich Men North of Richmond." That some of you convinced yourselves that the politicians on your team were exempt is y'all's problem.
Equally, some of y'all immediately too offense to it because you felt like he was talking about "your guy". Maybe it's telling that deep down you know about your guy
I don't have a guy. That's why I like Oliver Anthony so much. He hates politicians as much as I do, and recognizes the Hunger Games-like disdain the political elites on both sides have for the common, working man.
Do you think we can't read the over 14K posts you have on here? Who are you trying to convince that you are some sort of non-partisan amicus populi? Your protestations aren't some fake mustache that will hide your politics on a political forum. Good grief Linus.
LOL... truth.

Next he'll try to tell you he's a "lifelong Republican" or a moderate or a centrist
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Malbec said:

bear2be2 said:

Rawhide said:

bear2be2 said:

Malbec said:

Reporter: So Mr. Anthony, tell us about your new song.

OA: I hope everyone will listen to it. It's an anti-Big Dairy anthem called Down With Cheese.

Reporter: So it must call out the culprits of milk weaponization in our country, the Big Dairy execs.

OA: Why would it do that? They didn't create this travesty! It was the Jerseys, Guernseys and Holsteins! And I am so tired of people twisting my thoughts to their own agendas. Those execs are the ones trying to rescue us from the evil Butter Lobby and Pro Bovine PACs. Our milk ain't worth **** because of those damn cows, and they try to turn my words around on the people who feed and milk them. You know they are all bought and sold right?
Only not at all.

"Rich Men North of Richmond" calls out all "Rich Men North of Richmond." That some of you convinced yourselves that the politicians on your team were exempt is y'all's problem.
Equally, some of y'all immediately too offense to it because you felt like he was talking about "your guy". Maybe it's telling that deep down you know about your guy
I don't have a guy. That's why I like Oliver Anthony so much. He hates politicians as much as I do, and recognizes the Hunger Games-like disdain the political elites on both sides have for the common, working man.
Do you think we can't read the over 14K posts you have on here? Who are you trying to convince that you are some sort of non-partisan amicus populi? Your protestations aren't some fake mustache that will hide your politics on a political forum. Good grief Linus.
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Jack Bauer said:

It's about this BS...



In fairness, the Biden administration consistently has been a Saturday Night Live skit about collecting a bunch of affirmative action morons and giving them power to control government.
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The Klanocrats definitely love America.

If he had been blek and murdered someone he would have been given a medal by BIden.

What would happen if a school tried to ban the fhag flag?
Jack Bauer
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It's people like this...

whiterock
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Jacques Strap said:


OA may not consider himself a part of any particular political coalition, but he is by any reasonable definition talking about "the uniparty."
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bear2be2 said:

Malbec said:

bear2be2 said:

Rawhide said:

bear2be2 said:

Malbec said:

Reporter: So Mr. Anthony, tell us about your new song.

OA: I hope everyone will listen to it. It's an anti-Big Dairy anthem called Down With Cheese.

Reporter: So it must call out the culprits of milk weaponization in our country, the Big Dairy execs.

OA: Why would it do that? They didn't create this travesty! It was the Jerseys, Guernseys and Holsteins! And I am so tired of people twisting my thoughts to their own agendas. Those execs are the ones trying to rescue us from the evil Butter Lobby and Pro Bovine PACs. Our milk ain't worth **** because of those damn cows, and they try to turn my words around on the people who feed and milk them. You know they are all bought and sold right?
Only not at all.

"Rich Men North of Richmond" calls out all "Rich Men North of Richmond." That some of you convinced yourselves that the politicians on your team were exempt is y'all's problem.
Equally, some of y'all immediately too offense to it because you felt like he was talking about "your guy". Maybe it's telling that deep down you know about your guy
I don't have a guy. That's why I like Oliver Anthony so much. He hates politicians as much as I do, and recognizes the Hunger Games-like disdain the political elites on both sides have for the common, working man.
Do you think we can't read the over 14K posts you have on here? Who are you trying to convince that you are some sort of non-partisan amicus populi? Your protestations aren't some fake mustache that will hide your politics on a political forum. Good grief Linus.
Considering only about a fifth of my posts are on this particular board, which I hadn't posted on for more than a year before last week, you're off to a pretty bad start in characterizing my politics.

I'm a centrist through and through . I vote for the most pragmatic moderate candidate in every primary, regardless of party, and then I either write in that same candidate in the general or abstain from voting altogether in protest. I voted for Kasich in 2016, Buttigieg in 2020 and will likely vote for Haley in this election.

The candidates I could actually support never garner more than 10 or 15 percent of popular support in their parties, both of which can go to hell as far as I'm concerned. Lord knows they've done a good job of dragging our country there already.
The problem with your version of being a centrist is that you don't realize the status quo in the US is extreme corruption and 'pragmatic' candidates don't address it.

If you care about the future of this country then you must realize we need RADICAL change. You have to support a candidate who wants to radically transform this country.

You won't get what I'm saying until you're educated on uniparty politics.
bear2be2
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Doc Holliday said:

bear2be2 said:

Malbec said:

bear2be2 said:

Rawhide said:

bear2be2 said:

Malbec said:

Reporter: So Mr. Anthony, tell us about your new song.

OA: I hope everyone will listen to it. It's an anti-Big Dairy anthem called Down With Cheese.

Reporter: So it must call out the culprits of milk weaponization in our country, the Big Dairy execs.

OA: Why would it do that? They didn't create this travesty! It was the Jerseys, Guernseys and Holsteins! And I am so tired of people twisting my thoughts to their own agendas. Those execs are the ones trying to rescue us from the evil Butter Lobby and Pro Bovine PACs. Our milk ain't worth **** because of those damn cows, and they try to turn my words around on the people who feed and milk them. You know they are all bought and sold right?
Only not at all.

"Rich Men North of Richmond" calls out all "Rich Men North of Richmond." That some of you convinced yourselves that the politicians on your team were exempt is y'all's problem.
Equally, some of y'all immediately too offense to it because you felt like he was talking about "your guy". Maybe it's telling that deep down you know about your guy
I don't have a guy. That's why I like Oliver Anthony so much. He hates politicians as much as I do, and recognizes the Hunger Games-like disdain the political elites on both sides have for the common, working man.
Do you think we can't read the over 14K posts you have on here? Who are you trying to convince that you are some sort of non-partisan amicus populi? Your protestations aren't some fake mustache that will hide your politics on a political forum. Good grief Linus.
Considering only about a fifth of my posts are on this particular board, which I hadn't posted on for more than a year before last week, you're off to a pretty bad start in characterizing my politics.

I'm a centrist through and through . I vote for the most pragmatic moderate candidate in every primary, regardless of party, and then I either write in that same candidate in the general or abstain from voting altogether in protest. I voted for Kasich in 2016, Buttigieg in 2020 and will likely vote for Haley in this election.

The candidates I could actually support never garner more than 10 or 15 percent of popular support in their parties, both of which can go to hell as far as I'm concerned. Lord knows they've done a good job of dragging our country there already.
The problem with your version of being a centrist is that you don't realize the status quo in the US is extreme corruption and 'pragmatic' candidates don't address it.

If you care about the future of this country then you must realize we need RADICAL change. You have to support a candidate who wants to radically transform this country.

You won't get what I'm saying until you're educated on uniparty politics.
I don't want the radicals on either side determining the direction and trajectory of my country. You crazies have already caused enough damage.

The answer to corruption isn't equally corrupt radicals. It's accountability that doesn't stop on tribal lines.
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bear2be2 said:

Doc Holliday said:

bear2be2 said:

Malbec said:

bear2be2 said:

Rawhide said:

bear2be2 said:

Malbec said:

Reporter: So Mr. Anthony, tell us about your new song.

OA: I hope everyone will listen to it. It's an anti-Big Dairy anthem called Down With Cheese.

Reporter: So it must call out the culprits of milk weaponization in our country, the Big Dairy execs.

OA: Why would it do that? They didn't create this travesty! It was the Jerseys, Guernseys and Holsteins! And I am so tired of people twisting my thoughts to their own agendas. Those execs are the ones trying to rescue us from the evil Butter Lobby and Pro Bovine PACs. Our milk ain't worth **** because of those damn cows, and they try to turn my words around on the people who feed and milk them. You know they are all bought and sold right?
Only not at all.

"Rich Men North of Richmond" calls out all "Rich Men North of Richmond." That some of you convinced yourselves that the politicians on your team were exempt is y'all's problem.
Equally, some of y'all immediately too offense to it because you felt like he was talking about "your guy". Maybe it's telling that deep down you know about your guy
I don't have a guy. That's why I like Oliver Anthony so much. He hates politicians as much as I do, and recognizes the Hunger Games-like disdain the political elites on both sides have for the common, working man.
Do you think we can't read the over 14K posts you have on here? Who are you trying to convince that you are some sort of non-partisan amicus populi? Your protestations aren't some fake mustache that will hide your politics on a political forum. Good grief Linus.
Considering only about a fifth of my posts are on this particular board, which I hadn't posted on for more than a year before last week, you're off to a pretty bad start in characterizing my politics.

I'm a centrist through and through . I vote for the most pragmatic moderate candidate in every primary, regardless of party, and then I either write in that same candidate in the general or abstain from voting altogether in protest. I voted for Kasich in 2016, Buttigieg in 2020 and will likely vote for Haley in this election.

The candidates I could actually support never garner more than 10 or 15 percent of popular support in their parties, both of which can go to hell as far as I'm concerned. Lord knows they've done a good job of dragging our country there already.
The problem with your version of being a centrist is that you don't realize the status quo in the US is extreme corruption and 'pragmatic' candidates don't address it.

If you care about the future of this country then you must realize we need RADICAL change. You have to support a candidate who wants to radically transform this country.

You won't get what I'm saying until you're educated on uniparty politics.
I don't want the radicals on either side determining the direction and trajectory of my country. You crazies have already caused enough damage.

The answer to corruption isn't equally corrupt radicals. It's accountability that doesn't stop on tribal lines.
Radical as in different from the status quo.

The status quo is corruption. People just don't realize it.
bear2be2
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Doc Holliday said:

bear2be2 said:

Doc Holliday said:

bear2be2 said:

Malbec said:

bear2be2 said:

Rawhide said:

bear2be2 said:

Malbec said:

Reporter: So Mr. Anthony, tell us about your new song.

OA: I hope everyone will listen to it. It's an anti-Big Dairy anthem called Down With Cheese.

Reporter: So it must call out the culprits of milk weaponization in our country, the Big Dairy execs.

OA: Why would it do that? They didn't create this travesty! It was the Jerseys, Guernseys and Holsteins! And I am so tired of people twisting my thoughts to their own agendas. Those execs are the ones trying to rescue us from the evil Butter Lobby and Pro Bovine PACs. Our milk ain't worth **** because of those damn cows, and they try to turn my words around on the people who feed and milk them. You know they are all bought and sold right?
Only not at all.

"Rich Men North of Richmond" calls out all "Rich Men North of Richmond." That some of you convinced yourselves that the politicians on your team were exempt is y'all's problem.
Equally, some of y'all immediately too offense to it because you felt like he was talking about "your guy". Maybe it's telling that deep down you know about your guy
I don't have a guy. That's why I like Oliver Anthony so much. He hates politicians as much as I do, and recognizes the Hunger Games-like disdain the political elites on both sides have for the common, working man.
Do you think we can't read the over 14K posts you have on here? Who are you trying to convince that you are some sort of non-partisan amicus populi? Your protestations aren't some fake mustache that will hide your politics on a political forum. Good grief Linus.
Considering only about a fifth of my posts are on this particular board, which I hadn't posted on for more than a year before last week, you're off to a pretty bad start in characterizing my politics.

I'm a centrist through and through . I vote for the most pragmatic moderate candidate in every primary, regardless of party, and then I either write in that same candidate in the general or abstain from voting altogether in protest. I voted for Kasich in 2016, Buttigieg in 2020 and will likely vote for Haley in this election.

The candidates I could actually support never garner more than 10 or 15 percent of popular support in their parties, both of which can go to hell as far as I'm concerned. Lord knows they've done a good job of dragging our country there already.
The problem with your version of being a centrist is that you don't realize the status quo in the US is extreme corruption and 'pragmatic' candidates don't address it.

If you care about the future of this country then you must realize we need RADICAL change. You have to support a candidate who wants to radically transform this country.

You won't get what I'm saying until you're educated on uniparty politics.
I don't want the radicals on either side determining the direction and trajectory of my country. You crazies have already caused enough damage.

The answer to corruption isn't equally corrupt radicals. It's accountability that doesn't stop on tribal lines.
Radical as in different from the status quo.

The status quo is corruption. People just don't realize it.
Everyone realizes that. The problem is most are too tribal to do anything about it.

I've never met a "patriot" or "progressive" yet who holds their own side to the same standard they do the other.
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bear2be2 said:

Doc Holliday said:

bear2be2 said:

Doc Holliday said:

bear2be2 said:

Malbec said:

bear2be2 said:

Rawhide said:

bear2be2 said:

Malbec said:

Reporter: So Mr. Anthony, tell us about your new song.

OA: I hope everyone will listen to it. It's an anti-Big Dairy anthem called Down With Cheese.

Reporter: So it must call out the culprits of milk weaponization in our country, the Big Dairy execs.

OA: Why would it do that? They didn't create this travesty! It was the Jerseys, Guernseys and Holsteins! And I am so tired of people twisting my thoughts to their own agendas. Those execs are the ones trying to rescue us from the evil Butter Lobby and Pro Bovine PACs. Our milk ain't worth **** because of those damn cows, and they try to turn my words around on the people who feed and milk them. You know they are all bought and sold right?
Only not at all.

"Rich Men North of Richmond" calls out all "Rich Men North of Richmond." That some of you convinced yourselves that the politicians on your team were exempt is y'all's problem.
Equally, some of y'all immediately too offense to it because you felt like he was talking about "your guy". Maybe it's telling that deep down you know about your guy
I don't have a guy. That's why I like Oliver Anthony so much. He hates politicians as much as I do, and recognizes the Hunger Games-like disdain the political elites on both sides have for the common, working man.
Do you think we can't read the over 14K posts you have on here? Who are you trying to convince that you are some sort of non-partisan amicus populi? Your protestations aren't some fake mustache that will hide your politics on a political forum. Good grief Linus.
Considering only about a fifth of my posts are on this particular board, which I hadn't posted on for more than a year before last week, you're off to a pretty bad start in characterizing my politics.

I'm a centrist through and through . I vote for the most pragmatic moderate candidate in every primary, regardless of party, and then I either write in that same candidate in the general or abstain from voting altogether in protest. I voted for Kasich in 2016, Buttigieg in 2020 and will likely vote for Haley in this election.

The candidates I could actually support never garner more than 10 or 15 percent of popular support in their parties, both of which can go to hell as far as I'm concerned. Lord knows they've done a good job of dragging our country there already.
The problem with your version of being a centrist is that you don't realize the status quo in the US is extreme corruption and 'pragmatic' candidates don't address it.

If you care about the future of this country then you must realize we need RADICAL change. You have to support a candidate who wants to radically transform this country.

You won't get what I'm saying until you're educated on uniparty politics.
I don't want the radicals on either side determining the direction and trajectory of my country. You crazies have already caused enough damage.

The answer to corruption isn't equally corrupt radicals. It's accountability that doesn't stop on tribal lines.
Radical as in different from the status quo.

The status quo is corruption. People just don't realize it.
Everyone realizes that. The problem is most are too tribal to do anything about it.

I've never met a "patriot" or "progressive" yet who holds their own side to the same standard they do the other.
I'm talking about an outsider who's opposed to both parties. That's the opposite of tribal.

None of the candidates you support are in that arena. The guy closest to that right now is Ramaswamy.
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Doc Holliday said:

bear2be2 said:

Doc Holliday said:

bear2be2 said:

Doc Holliday said:

bear2be2 said:

Malbec said:

bear2be2 said:

Rawhide said:

bear2be2 said:

Malbec said:

Reporter: So Mr. Anthony, tell us about your new song.

OA: I hope everyone will listen to it. It's an anti-Big Dairy anthem called Down With Cheese.

Reporter: So it must call out the culprits of milk weaponization in our country, the Big Dairy execs.

OA: Why would it do that? They didn't create this travesty! It was the Jerseys, Guernseys and Holsteins! And I am so tired of people twisting my thoughts to their own agendas. Those execs are the ones trying to rescue us from the evil Butter Lobby and Pro Bovine PACs. Our milk ain't worth **** because of those damn cows, and they try to turn my words around on the people who feed and milk them. You know they are all bought and sold right?
Only not at all.

"Rich Men North of Richmond" calls out all "Rich Men North of Richmond." That some of you convinced yourselves that the politicians on your team were exempt is y'all's problem.
Equally, some of y'all immediately too offense to it because you felt like he was talking about "your guy". Maybe it's telling that deep down you know about your guy
I don't have a guy. That's why I like Oliver Anthony so much. He hates politicians as much as I do, and recognizes the Hunger Games-like disdain the political elites on both sides have for the common, working man.
Do you think we can't read the over 14K posts you have on here? Who are you trying to convince that you are some sort of non-partisan amicus populi? Your protestations aren't some fake mustache that will hide your politics on a political forum. Good grief Linus.
Considering only about a fifth of my posts are on this particular board, which I hadn't posted on for more than a year before last week, you're off to a pretty bad start in characterizing my politics.

I'm a centrist through and through . I vote for the most pragmatic moderate candidate in every primary, regardless of party, and then I either write in that same candidate in the general or abstain from voting altogether in protest. I voted for Kasich in 2016, Buttigieg in 2020 and will likely vote for Haley in this election.

The candidates I could actually support never garner more than 10 or 15 percent of popular support in their parties, both of which can go to hell as far as I'm concerned. Lord knows they've done a good job of dragging our country there already.
The problem with your version of being a centrist is that you don't realize the status quo in the US is extreme corruption and 'pragmatic' candidates don't address it.

If you care about the future of this country then you must realize we need RADICAL change. You have to support a candidate who wants to radically transform this country.

You won't get what I'm saying until you're educated on uniparty politics.
I don't want the radicals on either side determining the direction and trajectory of my country. You crazies have already caused enough damage.

The answer to corruption isn't equally corrupt radicals. It's accountability that doesn't stop on tribal lines.
Radical as in different from the status quo.

The status quo is corruption. People just don't realize it.
Everyone realizes that. The problem is most are too tribal to do anything about it.

I've never met a "patriot" or "progressive" yet who holds their own side to the same standard they do the other.
I'm talking about an outsider who's opposed to both parties. That's the opposite of tribal.

None of the candidates you support are in that arena. The guy closest to that right now is Ramaswamy.
Ramaswamy is a literal crook, like Trump before him. I'm all for qualified outsiders. The problem is you radicals are too easily taken by grifting pieces of *****
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bear2be2 said:

Doc Holliday said:

bear2be2 said:

Doc Holliday said:

bear2be2 said:

Doc Holliday said:

bear2be2 said:

Malbec said:

bear2be2 said:

Rawhide said:

bear2be2 said:

Malbec said:

Reporter: So Mr. Anthony, tell us about your new song.

OA: I hope everyone will listen to it. It's an anti-Big Dairy anthem called Down With Cheese.

Reporter: So it must call out the culprits of milk weaponization in our country, the Big Dairy execs.

OA: Why would it do that? They didn't create this travesty! It was the Jerseys, Guernseys and Holsteins! And I am so tired of people twisting my thoughts to their own agendas. Those execs are the ones trying to rescue us from the evil Butter Lobby and Pro Bovine PACs. Our milk ain't worth **** because of those damn cows, and they try to turn my words around on the people who feed and milk them. You know they are all bought and sold right?
Only not at all.

"Rich Men North of Richmond" calls out all "Rich Men North of Richmond." That some of you convinced yourselves that the politicians on your team were exempt is y'all's problem.
Equally, some of y'all immediately too offense to it because you felt like he was talking about "your guy". Maybe it's telling that deep down you know about your guy
I don't have a guy. That's why I like Oliver Anthony so much. He hates politicians as much as I do, and recognizes the Hunger Games-like disdain the political elites on both sides have for the common, working man.
Do you think we can't read the over 14K posts you have on here? Who are you trying to convince that you are some sort of non-partisan amicus populi? Your protestations aren't some fake mustache that will hide your politics on a political forum. Good grief Linus.
Considering only about a fifth of my posts are on this particular board, which I hadn't posted on for more than a year before last week, you're off to a pretty bad start in characterizing my politics.

I'm a centrist through and through . I vote for the most pragmatic moderate candidate in every primary, regardless of party, and then I either write in that same candidate in the general or abstain from voting altogether in protest. I voted for Kasich in 2016, Buttigieg in 2020 and will likely vote for Haley in this election.

The candidates I could actually support never garner more than 10 or 15 percent of popular support in their parties, both of which can go to hell as far as I'm concerned. Lord knows they've done a good job of dragging our country there already.
The problem with your version of being a centrist is that you don't realize the status quo in the US is extreme corruption and 'pragmatic' candidates don't address it.

If you care about the future of this country then you must realize we need RADICAL change. You have to support a candidate who wants to radically transform this country.

You won't get what I'm saying until you're educated on uniparty politics.
I don't want the radicals on either side determining the direction and trajectory of my country. You crazies have already caused enough damage.

The answer to corruption isn't equally corrupt radicals. It's accountability that doesn't stop on tribal lines.
Radical as in different from the status quo.

The status quo is corruption. People just don't realize it.
Everyone realizes that. The problem is most are too tribal to do anything about it.

I've never met a "patriot" or "progressive" yet who holds their own side to the same standard they do the other.
I'm talking about an outsider who's opposed to both parties. That's the opposite of tribal.

None of the candidates you support are in that arena. The guy closest to that right now is Ramaswamy.
Ramaswamy is a literal crook, like Trump before him. I'm all for qualified outsiders. The problem is you radicals are too easily taken by grifting pieces of *****
You Biden voters are something else. You can call yourself a centrist or moderate or the Easter bunny for all it matters but your votes empower outright corruption and wars. Congrats on not being a "RaDiCaL", though...
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

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bear2be2 said:

Doc Holliday said:

bear2be2 said:

Doc Holliday said:

bear2be2 said:

Doc Holliday said:

bear2be2 said:

Malbec said:

bear2be2 said:

Rawhide said:

bear2be2 said:

Malbec said:

Reporter: So Mr. Anthony, tell us about your new song.

OA: I hope everyone will listen to it. It's an anti-Big Dairy anthem called Down With Cheese.

Reporter: So it must call out the culprits of milk weaponization in our country, the Big Dairy execs.

OA: Why would it do that? They didn't create this travesty! It was the Jerseys, Guernseys and Holsteins! And I am so tired of people twisting my thoughts to their own agendas. Those execs are the ones trying to rescue us from the evil Butter Lobby and Pro Bovine PACs. Our milk ain't worth **** because of those damn cows, and they try to turn my words around on the people who feed and milk them. You know they are all bought and sold right?
Only not at all.

"Rich Men North of Richmond" calls out all "Rich Men North of Richmond." That some of you convinced yourselves that the politicians on your team were exempt is y'all's problem.
Equally, some of y'all immediately too offense to it because you felt like he was talking about "your guy". Maybe it's telling that deep down you know about your guy
I don't have a guy. That's why I like Oliver Anthony so much. He hates politicians as much as I do, and recognizes the Hunger Games-like disdain the political elites on both sides have for the common, working man.
Do you think we can't read the over 14K posts you have on here? Who are you trying to convince that you are some sort of non-partisan amicus populi? Your protestations aren't some fake mustache that will hide your politics on a political forum. Good grief Linus.
Considering only about a fifth of my posts are on this particular board, which I hadn't posted on for more than a year before last week, you're off to a pretty bad start in characterizing my politics.

I'm a centrist through and through . I vote for the most pragmatic moderate candidate in every primary, regardless of party, and then I either write in that same candidate in the general or abstain from voting altogether in protest. I voted for Kasich in 2016, Buttigieg in 2020 and will likely vote for Haley in this election.

The candidates I could actually support never garner more than 10 or 15 percent of popular support in their parties, both of which can go to hell as far as I'm concerned. Lord knows they've done a good job of dragging our country there already.
The problem with your version of being a centrist is that you don't realize the status quo in the US is extreme corruption and 'pragmatic' candidates don't address it.

If you care about the future of this country then you must realize we need RADICAL change. You have to support a candidate who wants to radically transform this country.

You won't get what I'm saying until you're educated on uniparty politics.
I don't want the radicals on either side determining the direction and trajectory of my country. You crazies have already caused enough damage.

The answer to corruption isn't equally corrupt radicals. It's accountability that doesn't stop on tribal lines.
Radical as in different from the status quo.

The status quo is corruption. People just don't realize it.
Everyone realizes that. The problem is most are too tribal to do anything about it.

I've never met a "patriot" or "progressive" yet who holds their own side to the same standard they do the other.
I'm talking about an outsider who's opposed to both parties. That's the opposite of tribal.

None of the candidates you support are in that arena. The guy closest to that right now is Ramaswamy.
Ramaswamy is a literal crook, like Trump before him. I'm all for qualified outsiders. The problem is you radicals are too easily taken by grifting pieces of *****
Biden is the OG crook
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I heard he had 120k guarantee to play for an hour. He needs to lower that if he's gonna be lowering ticket prices. It seems like this guy might be a fraud that is just playing up the working class hero bit.
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bear2be2 said:

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Reporter: So Mr. Anthony, tell us about your new song.

OA: I hope everyone will listen to it. It's an anti-Big Dairy anthem called Down With Cheese.

Reporter: So it must call out the culprits of milk weaponization in our country, the Big Dairy execs.

OA: Why would it do that? They didn't create this travesty! It was the Jerseys, Guernseys and Holsteins! And I am so tired of people twisting my thoughts to their own agendas. Those execs are the ones trying to rescue us from the evil Butter Lobby and Pro Bovine PACs. Our milk ain't worth **** because of those damn cows, and they try to turn my words around on the people who feed and milk them. You know they are all bought and sold right?
Only not at all.

"Rich Men North of Richmond" calls out all "Rich Men North of Richmond." That some of you convinced yourselves that the politicians on your team were exempt is y'all's problem.
Equally, some of y'all immediately too offense to it because you felt like he was talking about "your guy". Maybe it's telling that deep down you know about your guy
I don't have a guy. That's why I like Oliver Anthony so much. He hates politicians as much as I do, and recognizes the Hunger Games-like disdain the political elites on both sides have for the common, working man.
Do you think we can't read the over 14K posts you have on here? Who are you trying to convince that you are some sort of non-partisan amicus populi? Your protestations aren't some fake mustache that will hide your politics on a political forum. Good grief Linus.
Considering only about a fifth of my posts are on this particular board, which I hadn't posted on for more than a year before last week, you're off to a pretty bad start in characterizing my politics.

I'm a centrist through and through . I vote for the most pragmatic moderate candidate in every primary, regardless of party, and then I either write in that same candidate in the general or abstain from voting altogether in protest. I voted for Kasich in 2016, Buttigieg in 2020 and will likely vote for Haley in this election.

The candidates I could actually support never garner more than 10 or 15 percent of popular support in their parties, both of which can go to hell as far as I'm concerned. Lord knows they've done a good job of dragging our country there already.
The problem with your version of being a centrist is that you don't realize the status quo in the US is extreme corruption and 'pragmatic' candidates don't address it.

If you care about the future of this country then you must realize we need RADICAL change. You have to support a candidate who wants to radically transform this country.

You won't get what I'm saying until you're educated on uniparty politics.
I don't want the radicals on either side determining the direction and trajectory of my country. You crazies have already caused enough damage.

The answer to corruption isn't equally corrupt radicals. It's accountability that doesn't stop on tribal lines.
Radical as in different from the status quo.

The status quo is corruption. People just don't realize it.
Everyone realizes that. The problem is most are too tribal to do anything about it.

I've never met a "patriot" or "progressive" yet who holds their own side to the same standard they do the other.
I'm talking about an outsider who's opposed to both parties. That's the opposite of tribal.

None of the candidates you support are in that arena. The guy closest to that right now is Ramaswamy.
Ramaswamy is a literal crook, like Trump before him. I'm all for qualified outsiders. The problem is you radicals are too easily taken by grifting pieces of *****
You Biden voters are something else. You can call yourself a centrist or moderate or the Easter bunny for all it matters but your votes empower outright corruption and wars. Congrats on not being a "RaDiCaL", though...
Most amusing are the few who routinely post their voting records as 'proof' of their good intentions.
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I'm not sure why you clowns keep bringing up Biden in relation to me or my posts. I'm not a fan or defender of Joe Biden. He's a **** president just like most of the others in my lifetime -- and like those others, he could give two ****s about those he's "serving."

I understand it's difficult for partisan hacks to think outside of a binary system, but I despise most politicians -- on your team and the other.

That's why I like Oliver Anthony ... and his refusal to be put in a political box. He understands that none of these crooks are worth the time or energy that partisan hacks spend propping up and defending them. They're all screwing us and selling us out, and they benefit each and every time those they're stepping on make poor saps who happen to disagree with them ideologically the enemy because it takes the spotlight off them and their obvious flaws/hypocrisy.
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I'm not sure why you clowns keep bringing up Biden in relation to me or my posts. I'm not a fan or defender of Joe Biden. He's a **** president just like most of the others in my lifetime -- and like those others, he could give two ****s about those he's "serving."

I understand it's difficult for partisan hacks to think outside of a binary system, but I despise most politicians -- on your team and the other.

That's why I like Oliver Anthony ... and his refusal to be put in a political box. He understands that none of these crooks are worth the time or energy that partisan hacks spend propping up and defending them. They're all screwing us and selling us out, and they benefit each and every time those they're stepping on make poor saps who happen to disagree with them ideologically the enemy because it takes the spotlight off them and their obvious flaws/hypocrisy.
LOL the guy sings a little-guy anthem that sets MAGA aroar and furrows dismissive brows on the View but oh, no....he's not in a political box.

Who controls cultural hegemony, B2? Listen to the narratives in all forms of media....is it the left or the right who sets the parameters for political correctness? Who are corporate elites pandering to? Who's getting cancelled and not? To the extent there is a "uniparty," who's on the inside and outside?

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whiterock said:

bear2be2 said:

I'm not sure why you clowns keep bringing up Biden in relation to me or my posts. I'm not a fan or defender of Joe Biden. He's a **** president just like most of the others in my lifetime -- and like those others, he could give two ****s about those he's "serving."

I understand it's difficult for partisan hacks to think outside of a binary system, but I despise most politicians -- on your team and the other.

That's why I like Oliver Anthony ... and his refusal to be put in a political box. He understands that none of these crooks are worth the time or energy that partisan hacks spend propping up and defending them. They're all screwing us and selling us out, and they benefit each and every time those they're stepping on make poor saps who happen to disagree with them ideologically the enemy because it takes the spotlight off them and their obvious flaws/hypocrisy.
LOL the guy sings a little-guy anthem that sets MAGA aroar and furrows dismissive brows on the View but oh, no....he's not in a political box.

Who controls cultural hegemony, B2? Listen to the narratives in all forms of media....is it the left or the right who sets the parameters for political correctness? Who are corporate elites pandering to? Who's getting cancelled and not? To the extent there is a "uniparty," who's on the inside and outside?
The song was never a Republican/MAGA anthem. It was about politicians -- all politicians -- ****ting on the working man.

That some of y'all convinced yourselves he was only talking about the other team is your problem. But the politicians on your side arose from and swim in the exact same ooze as the Democrats -- and they serve the exact same masters: corporate interests and themselves.

The sooner people on all sides of the political aisle realize this, and start viewing their own politicians with the same critical eye, the sooner they'll find that hegemony/hypocrisy doesn't have a party affiliation. It's a required -- and too often rewarded -- trait of all American politicians.

And reflexive tribal responses to/defenses of that hypocrisy are the mortar that keeps a government that grows more unrepresentative, dysfunctional and corrupt by the year standing strong.
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bear2be2 said:

whiterock said:

bear2be2 said:

I'm not sure why you clowns keep bringing up Biden in relation to me or my posts. I'm not a fan or defender of Joe Biden. He's a **** president just like most of the others in my lifetime -- and like those others, he could give two ****s about those he's "serving."

I understand it's difficult for partisan hacks to think outside of a binary system, but I despise most politicians -- on your team and the other.

That's why I like Oliver Anthony ... and his refusal to be put in a political box. He understands that none of these crooks are worth the time or energy that partisan hacks spend propping up and defending them. They're all screwing us and selling us out, and they benefit each and every time those they're stepping on make poor saps who happen to disagree with them ideologically the enemy because it takes the spotlight off them and their obvious flaws/hypocrisy.
LOL the guy sings a little-guy anthem that sets MAGA aroar and furrows dismissive brows on the View but oh, no....he's not in a political box.

Who controls cultural hegemony, B2? Listen to the narratives in all forms of media....is it the left or the right who sets the parameters for political correctness? Who are corporate elites pandering to? Who's getting cancelled and not? To the extent there is a "uniparty," who's on the inside and outside?
The song was never a Republican/MAGA anthem. It was about politicians -- all politicians -- ****ting on the working man.

That some of y'all convinced yourselves he was only talking about the other team is your problem. But the politicians on your side arose from and swim in the exact same ooze as the Democrats -- and they serve the exact same masters: corporate interests and themselves.

The sooner people on all sides of the political aisle realize this, and start viewing their own politicians with the same critical eye, the sooner they'll find that hegemony/hypocrisy doesn't have a party affiliation. It's a required -- and too often rewarded -- trait of all American politicians.

And reflexive tribal responses to/defenses of that hypocrisy are the mortar that keeps a government that grows more unrepresentative, dysfunctional and corrupt by the year standing strong.
Yep, I agree with this. A song about Washington DC caring more about themselves and their power and little to nothing of the country or American people.

The problem isn't just with politicians, but also lies with the administrative state and all those alphabet organizations.

It blows my mind that you can have an agency like the EPA, HUD, FCC, FDA, CDC, etc... issue edicts that are then treated like law. A law that wasn't crafted, debated over and vote on by the people we send to D.C. to you know, debate and vote on stuff.

These agencies or departments or committees or what the hell ever should only be allowed to issue recommendations. Then our elected "leaders" should look at those recommendations and decide whether to debate it and write a new law - you know, their JOB. Hell, I know they have enough time and not over-worked, they all have time to live on twitter, write books, make television appearances, go on Ukraine tours and travel to Epstein island.

I'll add... it's far past time for the states to hold a Convention of the States under Article V of the constitution and force term limits down the throats of those rich men north of Richmond... we know they'll NEVER force it upon themselves.
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Rawhide said:

bear2be2 said:

whiterock said:

bear2be2 said:

I'm not sure why you clowns keep bringing up Biden in relation to me or my posts. I'm not a fan or defender of Joe Biden. He's a **** president just like most of the others in my lifetime -- and like those others, he could give two ****s about those he's "serving."

I understand it's difficult for partisan hacks to think outside of a binary system, but I despise most politicians -- on your team and the other.

That's why I like Oliver Anthony ... and his refusal to be put in a political box. He understands that none of these crooks are worth the time or energy that partisan hacks spend propping up and defending them. They're all screwing us and selling us out, and they benefit each and every time those they're stepping on make poor saps who happen to disagree with them ideologically the enemy because it takes the spotlight off them and their obvious flaws/hypocrisy.
LOL the guy sings a little-guy anthem that sets MAGA aroar and furrows dismissive brows on the View but oh, no....he's not in a political box.

Who controls cultural hegemony, B2? Listen to the narratives in all forms of media....is it the left or the right who sets the parameters for political correctness? Who are corporate elites pandering to? Who's getting cancelled and not? To the extent there is a "uniparty," who's on the inside and outside?
The song was never a Republican/MAGA anthem. It was about politicians -- all politicians -- ****ting on the working man.

That some of y'all convinced yourselves he was only talking about the other team is your problem. But the politicians on your side arose from and swim in the exact same ooze as the Democrats -- and they serve the exact same masters: corporate interests and themselves.

The sooner people on all sides of the political aisle realize this, and start viewing their own politicians with the same critical eye, the sooner they'll find that hegemony/hypocrisy doesn't have a party affiliation. It's a required -- and too often rewarded -- trait of all American politicians.

And reflexive tribal responses to/defenses of that hypocrisy are the mortar that keeps a government that grows more unrepresentative, dysfunctional and corrupt by the year standing strong.
Yep, I agree with this. A song about Washington DC caring more about themselves and their power and little to nothing of the country or American people.

The problem isn't just with politicians, but also lies with the administrative state and all those alphabet organizations.

It blows my mind that you can have an agency like the EPA, HUD, FCC, FDA, CDC, etc... issue edicts that are then treated like law. A law that wasn't crafted, debated over and vote on by the people we send to D.C. to you know, debate and vote on stuff.

These agencies or departments or committees or what the hell ever should only be allowed to issue recommendations. Then our elected "leaders" should look at those recommendations and decide whether to debate it and write a new law - you know, their JOB. Hell, I know they have enough time and not over-worked, they all have time to live on twitter, write books, make television appearances, go on Ukraine tours and travel to Epstein island.

I'll add... it's far past time for the states to hold a Convention of the States under Article V of the constitution and force term limits down the throats of those rich men north of Richmond... we know they'll NEVER force it upon themselves.
Won't matter unless you add a requirement that when leaving office, these guys cannot become lobbyists themselves.
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Oldbear83 said:

Rawhide said:

bear2be2 said:

whiterock said:

bear2be2 said:

I'm not sure why you clowns keep bringing up Biden in relation to me or my posts. I'm not a fan or defender of Joe Biden. He's a **** president just like most of the others in my lifetime -- and like those others, he could give two ****s about those he's "serving."

I understand it's difficult for partisan hacks to think outside of a binary system, but I despise most politicians -- on your team and the other.

That's why I like Oliver Anthony ... and his refusal to be put in a political box. He understands that none of these crooks are worth the time or energy that partisan hacks spend propping up and defending them. They're all screwing us and selling us out, and they benefit each and every time those they're stepping on make poor saps who happen to disagree with them ideologically the enemy because it takes the spotlight off them and their obvious flaws/hypocrisy.
LOL the guy sings a little-guy anthem that sets MAGA aroar and furrows dismissive brows on the View but oh, no....he's not in a political box.

Who controls cultural hegemony, B2? Listen to the narratives in all forms of media....is it the left or the right who sets the parameters for political correctness? Who are corporate elites pandering to? Who's getting cancelled and not? To the extent there is a "uniparty," who's on the inside and outside?
The song was never a Republican/MAGA anthem. It was about politicians -- all politicians -- ****ting on the working man.

That some of y'all convinced yourselves he was only talking about the other team is your problem. But the politicians on your side arose from and swim in the exact same ooze as the Democrats -- and they serve the exact same masters: corporate interests and themselves.

The sooner people on all sides of the political aisle realize this, and start viewing their own politicians with the same critical eye, the sooner they'll find that hegemony/hypocrisy doesn't have a party affiliation. It's a required -- and too often rewarded -- trait of all American politicians.

And reflexive tribal responses to/defenses of that hypocrisy are the mortar that keeps a government that grows more unrepresentative, dysfunctional and corrupt by the year standing strong.
Yep, I agree with this. A song about Washington DC caring more about themselves and their power and little to nothing of the country or American people.

The problem isn't just with politicians, but also lies with the administrative state and all those alphabet organizations.

It blows my mind that you can have an agency like the EPA, HUD, FCC, FDA, CDC, etc... issue edicts that are then treated like law. A law that wasn't crafted, debated over and vote on by the people we send to D.C. to you know, debate and vote on stuff.

These agencies or departments or committees or what the hell ever should only be allowed to issue recommendations. Then our elected "leaders" should look at those recommendations and decide whether to debate it and write a new law - you know, their JOB. Hell, I know they have enough time and not over-worked, they all have time to live on twitter, write books, make television appearances, go on Ukraine tours and travel to Epstein island.

I'll add... it's far past time for the states to hold a Convention of the States under Article V of the constitution and force term limits down the throats of those rich men north of Richmond... we know they'll NEVER force it upon themselves.
Won't matter unless you add a requirement that when leaving office, these guys cannot become lobbyists themselves.
When you look at the net worth of these career politicians, many of which have never done anything substantive in the private sector, it's sickening.

And we continue to defend the actions of the filthy rich men and women on our sides of the aisle to our own -- and our country's -- detriment. Get profiteering out of politics and you'll attract more public servants who come in, represent their constituents for a term or two and pass the torch to the next one -- as our government was designed.
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bear2be2 said:

Oldbear83 said:

Rawhide said:

bear2be2 said:

whiterock said:

bear2be2 said:

I'm not sure why you clowns keep bringing up Biden in relation to me or my posts. I'm not a fan or defender of Joe Biden. He's a **** president just like most of the others in my lifetime -- and like those others, he could give two ****s about those he's "serving."

I understand it's difficult for partisan hacks to think outside of a binary system, but I despise most politicians -- on your team and the other.

That's why I like Oliver Anthony ... and his refusal to be put in a political box. He understands that none of these crooks are worth the time or energy that partisan hacks spend propping up and defending them. They're all screwing us and selling us out, and they benefit each and every time those they're stepping on make poor saps who happen to disagree with them ideologically the enemy because it takes the spotlight off them and their obvious flaws/hypocrisy.
LOL the guy sings a little-guy anthem that sets MAGA aroar and furrows dismissive brows on the View but oh, no....he's not in a political box.

Who controls cultural hegemony, B2? Listen to the narratives in all forms of media....is it the left or the right who sets the parameters for political correctness? Who are corporate elites pandering to? Who's getting cancelled and not? To the extent there is a "uniparty," who's on the inside and outside?
The song was never a Republican/MAGA anthem. It was about politicians -- all politicians -- ****ting on the working man.

That some of y'all convinced yourselves he was only talking about the other team is your problem. But the politicians on your side arose from and swim in the exact same ooze as the Democrats -- and they serve the exact same masters: corporate interests and themselves.

The sooner people on all sides of the political aisle realize this, and start viewing their own politicians with the same critical eye, the sooner they'll find that hegemony/hypocrisy doesn't have a party affiliation. It's a required -- and too often rewarded -- trait of all American politicians.

And reflexive tribal responses to/defenses of that hypocrisy are the mortar that keeps a government that grows more unrepresentative, dysfunctional and corrupt by the year standing strong.
Yep, I agree with this. A song about Washington DC caring more about themselves and their power and little to nothing of the country or American people.

The problem isn't just with politicians, but also lies with the administrative state and all those alphabet organizations.

It blows my mind that you can have an agency like the EPA, HUD, FCC, FDA, CDC, etc... issue edicts that are then treated like law. A law that wasn't crafted, debated over and vote on by the people we send to D.C. to you know, debate and vote on stuff.

These agencies or departments or committees or what the hell ever should only be allowed to issue recommendations. Then our elected "leaders" should look at those recommendations and decide whether to debate it and write a new law - you know, their JOB. Hell, I know they have enough time and not over-worked, they all have time to live on twitter, write books, make television appearances, go on Ukraine tours and travel to Epstein island.

I'll add... it's far past time for the states to hold a Convention of the States under Article V of the constitution and force term limits down the throats of those rich men north of Richmond... we know they'll NEVER force it upon themselves.
Won't matter unless you add a requirement that when leaving office, these guys cannot become lobbyists themselves.
When you look at the net worth of these career politicians, many of which have never done anything substantive in the private sector, it's sickening.

And we continue to defend the actions of the filthy rich men and women on our sides of the aisle to our own -- and our country's -- detriment. Get profiteering out of politics and you'll attract more public servants who come in, represent their constituents for a term or two and pass the torch to the next one -- as our government was designed.
Oooohhhh, but it's worse than that.

Trump aside, the whole Deep State thing is a real issue. Maybe use a less tinfoil-hat name, but anyone who has gone to court and seen dozens of employees standing around doing no work, or road crews that put up signs but don't actually even start to fix the roads for literally weeks, or try to get a straight answer from your city councilman, state or congressional representative on an issue or law, and you'll understand the very serious resentment many Americans have with how their government has become bloated, intrusive and arrogant.

Government at all levels needs to be scaled back. The problem is that all those millions of people on the public teat will push back hard against having to work real jobs in the private sector.
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Oldbear83 said:

Rawhide said:

bear2be2 said:

whiterock said:

bear2be2 said:

I'm not sure why you clowns keep bringing up Biden in relation to me or my posts. I'm not a fan or defender of Joe Biden. He's a **** president just like most of the others in my lifetime -- and like those others, he could give two ****s about those he's "serving."

I understand it's difficult for partisan hacks to think outside of a binary system, but I despise most politicians -- on your team and the other.

That's why I like Oliver Anthony ... and his refusal to be put in a political box. He understands that none of these crooks are worth the time or energy that partisan hacks spend propping up and defending them. They're all screwing us and selling us out, and they benefit each and every time those they're stepping on make poor saps who happen to disagree with them ideologically the enemy because it takes the spotlight off them and their obvious flaws/hypocrisy.
LOL the guy sings a little-guy anthem that sets MAGA aroar and furrows dismissive brows on the View but oh, no....he's not in a political box.

Who controls cultural hegemony, B2? Listen to the narratives in all forms of media....is it the left or the right who sets the parameters for political correctness? Who are corporate elites pandering to? Who's getting cancelled and not? To the extent there is a "uniparty," who's on the inside and outside?
The song was never a Republican/MAGA anthem. It was about politicians -- all politicians -- ****ting on the working man.

That some of y'all convinced yourselves he was only talking about the other team is your problem. But the politicians on your side arose from and swim in the exact same ooze as the Democrats -- and they serve the exact same masters: corporate interests and themselves.

The sooner people on all sides of the political aisle realize this, and start viewing their own politicians with the same critical eye, the sooner they'll find that hegemony/hypocrisy doesn't have a party affiliation. It's a required -- and too often rewarded -- trait of all American politicians.

And reflexive tribal responses to/defenses of that hypocrisy are the mortar that keeps a government that grows more unrepresentative, dysfunctional and corrupt by the year standing strong.
Yep, I agree with this. A song about Washington DC caring more about themselves and their power and little to nothing of the country or American people.

The problem isn't just with politicians, but also lies with the administrative state and all those alphabet organizations.

It blows my mind that you can have an agency like the EPA, HUD, FCC, FDA, CDC, etc... issue edicts that are then treated like law. A law that wasn't crafted, debated over and vote on by the people we send to D.C. to you know, debate and vote on stuff.

These agencies or departments or committees or what the hell ever should only be allowed to issue recommendations. Then our elected "leaders" should look at those recommendations and decide whether to debate it and write a new law - you know, their JOB. Hell, I know they have enough time and not over-worked, they all have time to live on twitter, write books, make television appearances, go on Ukraine tours and travel to Epstein island.

I'll add... it's far past time for the states to hold a Convention of the States under Article V of the constitution and force term limits down the throats of those rich men north of Richmond... we know they'll NEVER force it upon themselves.
Won't matter unless you add a requirement that when leaving office, these guys cannot become lobbyists themselves.
I can get behind that
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Oldbear83 said:

bear2be2 said:

Oldbear83 said:

Rawhide said:

bear2be2 said:

whiterock said:

bear2be2 said:

I'm not sure why you clowns keep bringing up Biden in relation to me or my posts. I'm not a fan or defender of Joe Biden. He's a **** president just like most of the others in my lifetime -- and like those others, he could give two ****s about those he's "serving."

I understand it's difficult for partisan hacks to think outside of a binary system, but I despise most politicians -- on your team and the other.

That's why I like Oliver Anthony ... and his refusal to be put in a political box. He understands that none of these crooks are worth the time or energy that partisan hacks spend propping up and defending them. They're all screwing us and selling us out, and they benefit each and every time those they're stepping on make poor saps who happen to disagree with them ideologically the enemy because it takes the spotlight off them and their obvious flaws/hypocrisy.
LOL the guy sings a little-guy anthem that sets MAGA aroar and furrows dismissive brows on the View but oh, no....he's not in a political box.

Who controls cultural hegemony, B2? Listen to the narratives in all forms of media....is it the left or the right who sets the parameters for political correctness? Who are corporate elites pandering to? Who's getting cancelled and not? To the extent there is a "uniparty," who's on the inside and outside?
The song was never a Republican/MAGA anthem. It was about politicians -- all politicians -- ****ting on the working man.

That some of y'all convinced yourselves he was only talking about the other team is your problem. But the politicians on your side arose from and swim in the exact same ooze as the Democrats -- and they serve the exact same masters: corporate interests and themselves.

The sooner people on all sides of the political aisle realize this, and start viewing their own politicians with the same critical eye, the sooner they'll find that hegemony/hypocrisy doesn't have a party affiliation. It's a required -- and too often rewarded -- trait of all American politicians.

And reflexive tribal responses to/defenses of that hypocrisy are the mortar that keeps a government that grows more unrepresentative, dysfunctional and corrupt by the year standing strong.
Yep, I agree with this. A song about Washington DC caring more about themselves and their power and little to nothing of the country or American people.

The problem isn't just with politicians, but also lies with the administrative state and all those alphabet organizations.

It blows my mind that you can have an agency like the EPA, HUD, FCC, FDA, CDC, etc... issue edicts that are then treated like law. A law that wasn't crafted, debated over and vote on by the people we send to D.C. to you know, debate and vote on stuff.

These agencies or departments or committees or what the hell ever should only be allowed to issue recommendations. Then our elected "leaders" should look at those recommendations and decide whether to debate it and write a new law - you know, their JOB. Hell, I know they have enough time and not over-worked, they all have time to live on twitter, write books, make television appearances, go on Ukraine tours and travel to Epstein island.

I'll add... it's far past time for the states to hold a Convention of the States under Article V of the constitution and force term limits down the throats of those rich men north of Richmond... we know they'll NEVER force it upon themselves.
Won't matter unless you add a requirement that when leaving office, these guys cannot become lobbyists themselves.
When you look at the net worth of these career politicians, many of which have never done anything substantive in the private sector, it's sickening.

And we continue to defend the actions of the filthy rich men and women on our sides of the aisle to our own -- and our country's -- detriment. Get profiteering out of politics and you'll attract more public servants who come in, represent their constituents for a term or two and pass the torch to the next one -- as our government was designed.
Oooohhhh, but it's worse than that.

Trump aside, the whole Deep State thing is a real issue. Maybe use a less tinfoil-hat name, but anyone who has gone to court and seen dozens of employees standing around doing no work, or road crews that put up signs but don't actually even start to fix the roads for literally weeks, or try to get a straight answer from your city councilman, state or congressional representative on an issue or law, and you'll understand the very serious resentment many Americans have with how their government has become bloated, intrusive and arrogant.

Government at all levels needs to be scaled back. The problem is that all those millions of people on the public teat will push back hard against having to work real jobs in the private sector.
I don't have the same issue with local government than I do with state and federal government. There's accountability at the local level because no one cares if you're a Republican or Democrat. You either do a good job and actually serve the community you're living in or you get replaced.

State and federal politics would benefit tremendously from that same level of accountability, but politicians have convinced their constituencies that the other party is so bad/evil/ineffectual/corrupt that they've created immunity in all but the most purple of districts and states.

Tribal fear is the fuel that keeps our ****ty government running.
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"There's accountability at the local level because no one cares if you're a Republican or Democrat. You either do a good job and actually serve the community you're living in or you get replaced."

That's just not true anymore. In any city with a million or more in population, party identity and name recognition rule the day. Here in Houston, Mayor Turner does nothing right yet was re-elected without issue, and the two top contenders to replace him now he is term limited are career politicians whose names are well-known, even though neither has ever done a thing to help the lives of their constituents.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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Here he is reading scripture and being interviewed by Jordan Peterson, channeling a bit of Dreher and Reno, but oh no…..he's speaking to progressives, too…. LOL

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whiterock said:

Here he is reading scripture and being interviewed by Jordan Peterson, channeling a bit of Dreher and Reno, but oh no…..he's speaking to progressives, too…. LOL


Do Dreher and Reno have nothing to say to progressives at all?
 
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