Imagine being a J6 prisoner standing before a federal judge being sentenced to 30 years in prison for terrorism while her dog shit its brains out on the court room floor. https://t.co/IOBoGjmkuo

— limitanei (@rustbeltvigil) November 21, 2023

Hilarious

Omg this is perfect pic.twitter.com/koNSj7wjTX

— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) November 21, 2023

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Never forget what they did to American Patriots like Matthew Perna's “

Capitol on Jan. 6 Dies By Suicide 😭 dying from a “broken heart” over his case and because “the justice system killed his spirit and his zest for life, pic.twitter.com/tMFm4IsDAN

— 1776 (@TheWakeninq) November 18, 2023

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This...


This is why every democrat involved in J6 should serve life in prison... preferably a prison in Gitmo.

This was a farce of the highest order. Using the judicial system for purely political purposes.

The democrats are pure freakin evil. They cannot be trusted, and they must be destroyed at all costs.

A year of this **** and then we watch 8 months of BLM/Antifa riots that flaunted Covid rules while democrat politicians cheered and funded them and flaunted those same policies for haircuts and dining out. Oh but those 3 hours of rowdy tourists just proves how dangerous the Right is, eh?

https://www.facebook.com/zerocryption/videos/1516284438542096/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

Some in the Palestinian crowd in NYC are now giving the middle finger to Black Friday shoppers: pic.twitter.com/D5VXbLl2WL

— Julio Rosas (@Julio_Rosas11) November 24, 2023

FBI Releases Special Edition Jan 6 Footage DVD With Director's Commentary https://t.co/9aBFabKCJE pic.twitter.com/n1dZUB8LsD

— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) November 25, 2023

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Can we be reasonable and admit that the videos shown in this thread are from the more peaceful side of the 1/6 group and there were more violent and aggressive actions taken by many of the protestors?

Can we also be reasonable and admit that if a democrat-led group did the exact same thing on 1/6/2017 following comments by HRC, everyone on here would be saying they were a bunch of thugs trying to disrupt the democratic process?

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They did. They rioted and caused more damage than anything that happened on 1/6/2020. Go back and watch the videos on Trump's inauguration. Democrats rioted and vandalized not only in D.C. but across the country. However, the usual double standard was deployed by the fascist media.

However, your first point is spot on. There were a small minority of people who acted terribly and criminally. Most of the people did nothing wrong. The fascist left has deployed its usual Orwellian disinformation to create a mythical "insurrection" and THREAT TO DEMOCRACY in order to disinform voters.

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Let's agree both are bad then. One is (a lot) worse than the other. A reasonable person can tell you which one is worse.

Again, if you don't want to be accused to causing an insurrection and threatening democracy, don't storm the capitol building. Protest all you want. Riot all you want. Burn cars all you want. You'll just be called thugs then. Once you storm the capitol with the intent of disrupting the democratic process, you will be labeled as insurrectionists and it will be characterized as a threat to democracy. Even though it was unsuccessful and it had no hopes of being successful, the intent was to disturb the democratic process by preventing the count of the electoral college votes. That's different than letting your anger boil over in a protest that turns into riot.

Neither one is good and neither one should be tolerated, but one is clearly much much worse than the other. If nothing else, one is much much dumber than the other coming from the party that cries for law and order.

The democratic process was subverted on the night of November 3rd, 2020. Everything after that was effect.

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The democratic process was subverted on the night of November 3rd, 2020. Everything after that was effect.

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No no, when democrats interrupt the democratic process it's okay. It's just people expressing their first amendment rights, even when they kill people and cause billions in damages.

Beginnng to think releasing BLM rioters with almost no legal penalties in 2020 was a mistake. https://t.co/KR9hfDjXyy

— Stephen L. Miller (@redsteeze) November 26, 2023

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Beginnng to think releasing BLM rioters with almost no legal penalties in 2020 was a mistake. https://t.co/KR9hfDjXyy

— Stephen L. Miller (@redsteeze) November 26, 2023

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A lot of anger to support people kidnapping grandmas and children.

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Beginnng to think releasing BLM rioters with almost no legal penalties in 2020 was a mistake. https://t.co/KR9hfDjXyy

— Stephen L. Miller (@redsteeze) November 26, 2023

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A lot of anger to support people kidnapping grandmas and children.

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If Obama had white children....

Stealing an election is not democracy!

The U.S. is a republic not a democracy.

🚨#BREAKING: Thousands of Pro-Palestine Protestors are Occupying the Manhattan Bridge, Bringing Traffic to a Halt and Forcing Shutdown.
⁰📌#Manhattan | #NewYork

Currently, approximately 500-1100 or possibly more Pro Palestine protesters and activists are occupying and shutting… pic.twitter.com/bhY1kX6AuN

— R A W S A L E R T S (@rawsalerts) November 26, 2023

contrario said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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contrario said:

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Can we be reasonable and admit that the videos shown in this thread are from the more peaceful side of the 1/6 group and there were more violent and aggressive actions taken by many of the protestors?

Can we also be reasonable and admit that if a democrat-led group did the exact same thing on 1/6/2017 following comments by HRC, everyone on here would be saying they were a bunch of thugs trying to disrupt the democratic process?

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They did. They rioted and caused more damage than anything that happened on 1/6/2020. Go back and watch the videos on Trump's inauguration. Democrats rioted and vandalized not only in D.C. but across the country. However, the usual double standard was deployed by the fascist media.

However, your first point is spot on. There were a small minority of people who acted terribly and criminally. Most of the people did nothing wrong. The fascist left has deployed its usual Orwellian disinformation to create a mythical "insurrection" and THREAT TO DEMOCRACY in order to disinform voters.

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Let's agree both are bad then. One is (a lot) worse than the other. A reasonable person can tell you which one is worse.

Again, if you don't want to be accused to causing an insurrection and threatening democracy, don't storm the capitol building. Protest all you want. Riot all you want. Burn cars all you want. You'll just be called thugs then. Once you storm the capitol with the intent of disrupting the democratic process, you will be labeled as insurrectionists and it will be characterized as a threat to democracy. Even though it was unsuccessful and it had no hopes of being successful, the intent was to disturb the democratic process by preventing the count of the electoral college votes. That's different than letting your anger boil over in a protest that turns into riot.

Neither one is good and neither one should be tolerated, but one is clearly much much worse than the other. If nothing else, one is much much dumber than the other coming from the party that cries for law and order.

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I agree both are bad, but let's be intellectual honest and acknowledge calling one worse than the other is simple partisan pandering.

I guess at first we need to agree on what is a the definition of THREAT TO DEMOCRACY. I would argue it is anything that could circumvent to legally expressed will of the people in terms of the outcomes of an election.

So yes, a dozen people attempting to slow the certification of an election could fall into a THREAT TO DEMCORACY. But as a matter of degree, one would have to consider the probability it would actually impact the outcome of an election, which is zero.

What are more actual THREATS TO DEMOCRACY:
- What the Clinton campaign did in 2016 in collusion with big money donors to literally ask Trump Electors to vote disloyally for her instead of Trump; while not did, it actually was a legitimate tactic and an actual THREAT TO DEMOCRACY
- Illegally changing voting procedures and rules that potentially disenfranchised millions of voters
- Blocking any effort to affirm the integrity of the voting system through measures that would reduce disenfranchisement and both ensure the most people had access to the franchise and one person one vote legitimately case
- Using specious legal prosecutions to undermine voters from casting a vote for the candidate of their chocie

All of those are actually exponentially larger THREATS TO DEMOCRACY than a man in a buffalo costume peacefully walking through the Capitol. Especially when the U.S. Capitol and myriad state capitols have faced must larger attempts to disrupt the legislative process than anything on Jan. 6.

It is possible both to condemn the actions of many on January 6 and acknowledge the disinformation and political theater it has become for the Owellian regressives.

You may disagree with me on policy positions, but I am consistent with simply wanting a single standard regardless of party, opposing disinformation and propaganda, and opposing violating longstanding polity and protocol for power.

🚨#UPDATE: Organizers has declared that they won't leave until they secure a permanent ceasefire emphasizing that the police are overwhelmed. They state that the NYPD hasn't encountered a situation like this in decades with Protestors pledging to continue to block the Manhattan… pic.twitter.com/BSkR957dHJ

— R A W S A L E R T S (@rawsalerts) November 26, 2023

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🚨#UPDATE: Organizers has declared that they won't leave until they secure a permanent ceasefire emphasizing that the police are overwhelmed. They state that the NYPD hasn't encountered a situation like this in decades with Protestors pledging to continue to block the Manhattan… pic.twitter.com/BSkR957dHJ

— R A W S A L E R T S (@rawsalerts) November 26, 2023

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Flash back of 2020 when Burn Loot Murder was terrorizing the nation based on disinformation. The brownshirts come out when the Democrats need to energize the base ... this time it might backfire ... cheering for rapists, murderers, and baby killers does not land as well with suburban wine moms as mythical blek saints ... and there are a lot of influential folks less likely to let disinformation about Israel and Hams slide.

REPORT: The Biden administration is tracking *everyone* who traveled to the D.C. region on January 6, 2021 even if they had nothing to do with the Capitol riot.

According to director of the Air Marshal National Council Sonya LaBosco, TSA has a special list for people who… pic.twitter.com/x2vLM22ldE

— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) November 26, 2023

Leftists are obsessed with J6 because they were afraid it might disrupt the finishing touches on their stolen election. The protestors represented zero threat to the country. The only potential threat, mostly in the fevered imaginations of fascists, was in the possibility their crimes would be exposed. What violence occurred was caused by the FBI instigators (aka Gestapo) & antifa (modern brown shirts) & quickly covered up by the Dem leaders. They have been lying to us about it ever since.

That's one reason they are terrified of Trump winning next year: he might finish what he started with in terms of policies (stronger economy, stronger military, lasting energy independence, a foreign policy focusing on American interests, international respect, a stable border, etc). And this is why they keep trying to find ways to stop up including lawfare (a terrorist tactic), fraudulent prosecutions, lies, etc.

Unfortunately for everyone, the Left owns the mainstream media, essentially their propaganda arm. They have mastered the techniques pioneered by Lenin, Trotsky, Hitler & Goebbels.

Cobretti said:

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REPORT: The Biden administration is tracking *everyone* who traveled to the D.C. region on January 6, 2021 even if they had nothing to do with the Capitol riot.

According to director of the Air Marshal National Council Sonya LaBosco, TSA has a special list for people who… pic.twitter.com/x2vLM22ldE

— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) November 26, 2023

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Sounds very fascisty

Fascists are going to act like fascists

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Fascists are going to act like fascists

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Yes, you are

Waco1947 said:

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historian said:

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Fascists are going to act like fascists

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Yes, you are

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Mirror time?

Waco1947 said:

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historian said:

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Fascists are going to act like fascists

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Yes, you are

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GrowlTowel said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Fascists are going to act like fascists

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Yes, you are

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Mirror time?

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I could see 47 as the Stewart Smalley, daily affirmations type.

Waco1947 said:

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Fascists are going to act like fascists

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I would ask you if you could even define fascism in its traditional, academic sense; but we know specifics and answering direct questions are your Kryptonite.

Fascists often like to project. Sometimes they don't even resolve it: they believe the lies that have been perpetuated for decades that fascism is an ideology and movement of the right when that has never been the case.

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Fascists often like to project. Sometimes they don't even resolve it: they believe the lies that have been perpetuated for decades that fascism is an ideology and movement of the right when that has never been the case.

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Fascism is a far-right theory of government that opposes the political philosophies of the Enlightenment and the 19th century, including democratic liberalism, communism, and socialism.

Fascism places the importance of the nation above all else. The unity of the national community is prioritized above the rights of individuals. This leads to an intense interest in defining which groups belong or do not belong to the national body. Fascism is characterized by:

strident, often exclusionary nationalism
fixation with national decline (real or perceived) and threats to the existence of the national community
embrace of paramilitarism
In fascist statements , violence is acceptedeven celebratedif it serves or advances the national community. For fascists, violence often has a redemptive or purifying quality.

Trans and lgbtq+
Before 1933, Germany was a center of LGBT+ community and culture, with several renowned organizations serving and supporting trans and gender non-conforming people. Hitler's Nazi government, however, brutally targeted the trans community, deporting many trans people to concentration camps and wiping out vibrant community structures. As transgender people are now increasingly targets of discriminatory legislation and hate,
So the shoe fits you right wing guys

Mussolini, a former socialist, created the first fascist movement as an alternative to socialism because he could not control them. Fascism & socialism are two sides of the same coin (other variations include Bolshevism, Nazis & Maoism). These various movements have many differences but share basic similarities.

Economist Thomas Sowell provided what might possibly be the best definition of fascism (paraphrasing): a form of socialism allowing people to keep their private property but under strict government rules & regulations. You might own your factory but you don't control it. This makes life very difficult for entrepreneurs and success is almost impossible. When economic failure inevitably results, the politicians & bureaucrats blame the hapless businessmen when they are actually responsible.

Ideologically, they are narrow-minded bigots who use government power without any accountability to bully others.

Mostly they are Democrats but some are Republicans. We tend to call them RINOs.

Waco1947 said:

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Fascism places the importance of the nation above all else. The unity of the national community is prioritized above the rights of individuals. This leads to an intense interest in defining which groups belong or do not belong to the national body. Fascism is characterized by:

strident, often exclusionary nationalism
fixation with national decline (real or perceived) and threats to the existence of the national community
embrace of paramilitarism
In fascist statements , violence is acceptedeven celebratedif it serves or advances the national community. For fascists, violence often has a redemptive or purifying quality.

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nation
noun
nation n-shn
[url=https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/nation][/url]
1a(1): nationality sense 5a
three Slav peoples … forged into a Yugoslavia without really fusing into a Yugoslav nation
Hans Kohn


(2): a politically organized nationality
(3):in the Bible : a non-Jewish nationality
why do the nations conspire
Psalms 2:1 (Revised Standard Version)

b: a community of people composed of one or more nationalities and possessing a more or less defined territory and government
Canada is a nation with a written constitution
B.K.Sandwell

c: a territorial division containing a body of people of one or more nationalities and usually characterized by relatively large size and independent status
a nation of vast size with a small population


2: archaic : group, aggregation

3: a tribe or federation of tribes (as of American Indians)
the Seminole Nation in Oklahoma


Dems worship nations, obsess about nations (races) of peoples. Even elevating identitarianism to the status of nations.

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Mussolini, a former socialist, created the first fascist movement as an alternative to socialism because he could not control them. Fascism & socialism are two sides of the same coin (other variations include Bolshevism, Nazis & Maoism). These various movements have many differences but share basic similarities.

Economist Thomas Sowell provided what might possibly be the best definition of fascism (paraphrasing): a form of socialism allowing people to keep their private property but under strict government rules & regulations. You might own your factory but you don't control it. This makes life very difficult for entrepreneurs and success is almost impossible. When economic failure inevitably results, the politicians & bureaucrats blame the hapless businessmen when they are actually responsible.

Ideologically, they are narrow-minded bigots who use government power without any accountability to bully others.

Mostly they are Democrats but some are Republicans. We tend to call them RINOs.

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Correct. Here is basic 101 that most people do not understand:

• Communism, socialism, fascism, mercantilism, capitalism are economic systems
• Monarchy, authoritarianism, oligarchy, republic, direct democracy, anarchism are government systems
• Nationalism, religious fundamentalism are just cultural movements

While there are government systems that tend to bias toward economic systems, there are not literal connections. For example, it is not impossible to have a direct democracy that regularly voted for a communist government. And there could be an authoritarian dictator that ruled a capitalist economic system.

So in the real world, fascism economic systems have been in place in authoritarian regimes (Mussolini) and in democracies (Argentine Peronism). Similarly, there are lots of countries that have experience periods of nationalism that were communist and capitalist. So nationalism is not an inherent feature of fascism as noted above Argentina has not been wildly nationalist during every decade of Peronism fascism.

Not surprisingly, you'll notice in the other "definitions" the poster could not describe what is fascism but simply what it was not, which is not how one defines terms.

Waco1947 said:

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Trans and lgbtq+
Before 1933, Germany was a center of LGBT+ community and culture, with several renowned organizations serving and supporting trans and gender non-conforming people. Hitler's Nazi government, however, brutally targeted the trans community, deporting many trans people to concentration camps and wiping out vibrant community structures. As transgender people are now increasingly targets of discriminatory legislation and hate,
So the shoe fits you right wing guys

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The concept of gender and "gender-non-conforming" was not a concept until the 1960s.

How did cross-dressers fare under Stalin? Maoist China? Better or worse than under Hitler's National Socialism.