Attack on our democracy.

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Sam Lowry
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Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Sam Lowry said:

GrowlTowel said:

Sam Lowry said:

I mean how can you justify red glitter and not justify thousands of people assaulting the Capitol Police in a violent attempt to stop the peaceful transfer of power?

It just doesn't make sense.
When did that happen?
Two questions:

1. Do you know anything at all about law enforcement?

2. Do you honestly think this is equivalent to J6 from a law enforcement point of view?

These are yes or no questions. And the first one is mostly rhetorical (I hope), so that should make it even simpler.
A special thanks to officer Michael Byrd for taking out unarmed Air Force Veteran Ashli Babbitt.
Rightly so.

Had Babbitt been a black BLM protestor and had Byrd been a white capitol police officer with all other things being equal, I'm sure your response along with the others that think like you would be exactly the same - right??
Mine would. I don't know about anyone else.

LOL! You bet!!
You can bet on it. As one who considers Rittenhouse a hero, I can assure you I would shed no tears.

Now the same question to you. Had Babbitt been a black BLM protestor and had Byrd been a white Capitol Police officer, with all other things being equal, what is your response?
Johnny Bear
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Sam Lowry said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Sam Lowry said:

GrowlTowel said:

Sam Lowry said:

I mean how can you justify red glitter and not justify thousands of people assaulting the Capitol Police in a violent attempt to stop the peaceful transfer of power?

It just doesn't make sense.
When did that happen?
Two questions:

1. Do you know anything at all about law enforcement?

2. Do you honestly think this is equivalent to J6 from a law enforcement point of view?

These are yes or no questions. And the first one is mostly rhetorical (I hope), so that should make it even simpler.
A special thanks to officer Michael Byrd for taking out unarmed Air Force Veteran Ashli Babbitt.
Rightly so.

Had Babbitt been a black BLM protestor and had Byrd been a white capitol police officer with all other things being equal, I'm sure your response along with the others that think like you would be exactly the same - right??
Mine would. I don't know about anyone else.

LOL! You bet!!
You can bet on it. As one who considers Rittenhouse a hero, I can assure you I would shed no tears.

Now the same question to you. Had Babbitt been a black BLM protestor and had Byrd been a white Capitol Police officer, with all other things being equal, what is your response?

Per the parameters of all other things being equal (I.e. the BLM protestor was unarmed and not engaging in rioting or any other clearly violent behavior), I would certainly not feel that Byrd should automatically be considered a hero worthy of having a medal pinned on him for justifiably killing an "insurrectionist". I would furthermore feel that the murder should be thoroughly investigated in an unbiased manner and proper action taken if the results of the investigation warrants it. Everyone regardless of race should be held accountable.

Now that I've answered the hypothetical, for the record I still don't believe you and you know good and well had that hypothetical actually been the fact pattern, Byrd would probably be in prison today or would have at least lost his job in disgrace and the incident would have likely served as another St. Floyd like excuse for rioting, burning, and looting especially to the extent that would've been politically helpful to the left.
Sam Lowry
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Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Sam Lowry said:

GrowlTowel said:

Sam Lowry said:

I mean how can you justify red glitter and not justify thousands of people assaulting the Capitol Police in a violent attempt to stop the peaceful transfer of power?

It just doesn't make sense.
When did that happen?
Two questions:

1. Do you know anything at all about law enforcement?

2. Do you honestly think this is equivalent to J6 from a law enforcement point of view?

These are yes or no questions. And the first one is mostly rhetorical (I hope), so that should make it even simpler.
A special thanks to officer Michael Byrd for taking out unarmed Air Force Veteran Ashli Babbitt.
Rightly so.

Had Babbitt been a black BLM protestor and had Byrd been a white capitol police officer with all other things being equal, I'm sure your response along with the others that think like you would be exactly the same - right??
Mine would. I don't know about anyone else.

LOL! You bet!!
You can bet on it. As one who considers Rittenhouse a hero, I can assure you I would shed no tears.

Now the same question to you. Had Babbitt been a black BLM protestor and had Byrd been a white Capitol Police officer, with all other things being equal, what is your response?

Per the parameters of all other things being equal (I.e. the BLM protestor was unarmed and not engaging in rioting or any other clearly violent behavior), I would certainly not feel that Byrd should automatically be considered a hero worthy of having a medal pinned on him for justifiably killing an "insurrectionist". I would furthermore feel that the murder should be thoroughly investigated in an unbiased manner and proper action taken if the results of the investigation warrants it. Everyone regardless of race should be held accountable.

Now that I've answered the hypothetical, for the record I still don't believe you and you know good and well had that hypothetical actually been the fact pattern, Byrd would probably be in prison today or would have at least lost his job in disgrace and the incident would have likely served as another St. Floyd like excuse for rioting, burning, and looting especially to the extent that would've been politically helpful to the left.
For the record, you didn't answer the question. You just made up a whole different scenario where Babbitt wasn't engaged in rioting. Thanks for the LOL.
Johnny Bear
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Sam Lowry said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Sam Lowry said:

GrowlTowel said:

Sam Lowry said:

I mean how can you justify red glitter and not justify thousands of people assaulting the Capitol Police in a violent attempt to stop the peaceful transfer of power?

It just doesn't make sense.
When did that happen?
Two questions:

1. Do you know anything at all about law enforcement?

2. Do you honestly think this is equivalent to J6 from a law enforcement point of view?

These are yes or no questions. And the first one is mostly rhetorical (I hope), so that should make it even simpler.
A special thanks to officer Michael Byrd for taking out unarmed Air Force Veteran Ashli Babbitt.
Rightly so.

Had Babbitt been a black BLM protestor and had Byrd been a white capitol police officer with all other things being equal, I'm sure your response along with the others that think like you would be exactly the same - right??
Mine would. I don't know about anyone else.

LOL! You bet!!
You can bet on it. As one who considers Rittenhouse a hero, I can assure you I would shed no tears.

Now the same question to you. Had Babbitt been a black BLM protestor and had Byrd been a white Capitol Police officer, with all other things being equal, what is your response?

Per the parameters of all other things being equal (I.e. the BLM protestor was unarmed and not engaging in rioting or any other clearly violent behavior), I would certainly not feel that Byrd should automatically be considered a hero worthy of having a medal pinned on him for justifiably killing an "insurrectionist". I would furthermore feel that the murder should be thoroughly investigated in an unbiased manner and proper action taken if the results of the investigation warrants it. Everyone regardless of race should be held accountable.

Now that I've answered the hypothetical, for the record I still don't believe you and you know good and well had that hypothetical actually been the fact pattern, Byrd would probably be in prison today or would have at least lost his job in disgrace and the incident would have likely served as another St. Floyd like excuse for rioting, burning, and looting especially to the extent that would've been politically helpful to the left.
For the record, you didn't answer the question. You just made up a whole different scenario where Babbitt wasn't engaged in rioting. Thanks for the LOL.

Not at all. Just re-affirming all other things remained the same - and I did answer the question. You're welcome for the LOL and I stand by it.
Sam Lowry
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Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Sam Lowry said:

GrowlTowel said:

Sam Lowry said:

I mean how can you justify red glitter and not justify thousands of people assaulting the Capitol Police in a violent attempt to stop the peaceful transfer of power?

It just doesn't make sense.
When did that happen?
Two questions:

1. Do you know anything at all about law enforcement?

2. Do you honestly think this is equivalent to J6 from a law enforcement point of view?

These are yes or no questions. And the first one is mostly rhetorical (I hope), so that should make it even simpler.
A special thanks to officer Michael Byrd for taking out unarmed Air Force Veteran Ashli Babbitt.
Rightly so.

Had Babbitt been a black BLM protestor and had Byrd been a white capitol police officer with all other things being equal, I'm sure your response along with the others that think like you would be exactly the same - right??
Mine would. I don't know about anyone else.

LOL! You bet!!
You can bet on it. As one who considers Rittenhouse a hero, I can assure you I would shed no tears.

Now the same question to you. Had Babbitt been a black BLM protestor and had Byrd been a white Capitol Police officer, with all other things being equal, what is your response?

Per the parameters of all other things being equal (I.e. the BLM protestor was unarmed and not engaging in rioting or any other clearly violent behavior), I would certainly not feel that Byrd should automatically be considered a hero worthy of having a medal pinned on him for justifiably killing an "insurrectionist". I would furthermore feel that the murder should be thoroughly investigated in an unbiased manner and proper action taken if the results of the investigation warrants it. Everyone regardless of race should be held accountable.

Now that I've answered the hypothetical, for the record I still don't believe you and you know good and well had that hypothetical actually been the fact pattern, Byrd would probably be in prison today or would have at least lost his job in disgrace and the incident would have likely served as another St. Floyd like excuse for rioting, burning, and looting especially to the extent that would've been politically helpful to the left.
For the record, you didn't answer the question. You just made up a whole different scenario where Babbitt wasn't engaged in rioting. Thanks for the LOL.

Not at all. Just re-affirming all other things remained the same - and I did answer the question. You're welcome for the LOL and I stand by it.
So just one more time for the record. If BLM protesters smashed and tried to climb through a window to the House Chamber, while some members of Congress were being evacuated and others were trapped in the House balcony, this would not qualify as a riot in your opinion?
Porteroso
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Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

All of you deep down know that if Trump won in 2020 and Dems did the same thing as MAGA on Jan 6, the media and most of DC would be applauding them for exercising their right to protest.

YOU KNOW THIS FOR A FACT.
That's probably true, but it's not the real issue. The question is whether any Democratic candidate would or could have convinced them to do it.

You can't begin to analyze it until you recognize that Trump duped his supporters in an unprecedented way.

B.S. If anybody was duped it was the people that bought the whole dimcrat/BLM Saint George Floyd farce.

It always goes back to black people with you zealots. Why is that?

It always goes back to Trump living rent free in the heads of you marxists. Why is that?

Oh buddy, but it doesn't. I am perfectly happy forgetting about him, except that he is probably the Republican candidate again.

Are you able to answer my question? Why you deflect towards black people when your side is pressed?

First of all I resent and am offended by what you are implying with your falsely premised question. I realize you have likely been indoctrinated to believe that believers in conservative principles are all racists that want to return to the Jim Crow days of the 1950's. The truth is that unlike the left, conservatives actually believe in MLK's dream of a country where everyone (and everyone means everyone) is judged on the content of their character as opposed to the color of their skin - and it doesn't just go one way.

Here's the difference. Because also unlike your side conservatives don't believe the lie that America is an inherently racist country dominated by white supremacist oppressors hell bent on screwing over the black community, we don't believe black people or any other race or group should constantly be given an automatic pass on virtually any kind of behavior simply because of their race or ethnicity. I along with other conservatives couldn't care less about George Floyd's race, and like a good little lefty it's actually you who is playing the race card here. I do care that innocent people were murdered and millions of $$ in damages needlessly occurred (much of it impacting minority citizens by the way) in the summer of 2020 because of the actions of hordes of leftist rent a mob thugs who have never been held accountable in any material way. And it was all because of a ginned up farce manufactured for political reasons - which was what the whole St. George Floyd fiasco was - and his race or the race of the majority of the people doing the rioting and looting has nothing to do with it.

https://www.thefallofminneapolis.com/

By contrast, ironically, what happened on January 6 actually was a "mostly peaceful protest" where a small minority of people did some bad things and deserve to be punished for it. But it is beyond laughable to call that an insurrection, again, unlike what happened in the summer of 2020.


You still aren't answering the question. Why is it that you people predictably bring up blacks when faced with Jan 6 scrutiny? That is the question, so either try an answer or don't.
Johnny Bear
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Sam Lowry said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Sam Lowry said:

GrowlTowel said:

Sam Lowry said:

I mean how can you justify red glitter and not justify thousands of people assaulting the Capitol Police in a violent attempt to stop the peaceful transfer of power?

It just doesn't make sense.
When did that happen?
Two questions:

1. Do you know anything at all about law enforcement?

2. Do you honestly think this is equivalent to J6 from a law enforcement point of view?

These are yes or no questions. And the first one is mostly rhetorical (I hope), so that should make it even simpler.
A special thanks to officer Michael Byrd for taking out unarmed Air Force Veteran Ashli Babbitt.
Rightly so.

Had Babbitt been a black BLM protestor and had Byrd been a white capitol police officer with all other things being equal, I'm sure your response along with the others that think like you would be exactly the same - right??
Mine would. I don't know about anyone else.

LOL! You bet!!
You can bet on it. As one who considers Rittenhouse a hero, I can assure you I would shed no tears.

Now the same question to you. Had Babbitt been a black BLM protestor and had Byrd been a white Capitol Police officer, with all other things being equal, what is your response?

Per the parameters of all other things being equal (I.e. the BLM protestor was unarmed and not engaging in rioting or any other clearly violent behavior), I would certainly not feel that Byrd should automatically be considered a hero worthy of having a medal pinned on him for justifiably killing an "insurrectionist". I would furthermore feel that the murder should be thoroughly investigated in an unbiased manner and proper action taken if the results of the investigation warrants it. Everyone regardless of race should be held accountable.

Now that I've answered the hypothetical, for the record I still don't believe you and you know good and well had that hypothetical actually been the fact pattern, Byrd would probably be in prison today or would have at least lost his job in disgrace and the incident would have likely served as another St. Floyd like excuse for rioting, burning, and looting especially to the extent that would've been politically helpful to the left.
For the record, you didn't answer the question. You just made up a whole different scenario where Babbitt wasn't engaged in rioting. Thanks for the LOL.

Not at all. Just re-affirming all other things remained the same - and I did answer the question. You're welcome for the LOL and I stand by it.
So just one more time for the record. If BLM protesters smashed and tried to climb through a window to the House Chamber, while some members of Congress were being evacuated and others were trapped in the House balcony, this would not qualify as a riot in your opinion?


Nice try, but it was an unjustified shooting:

https://www.judicialwatch.org/videos/outrageous-shooting-death-of-ashli-babbitt-judicial-watch-sues/

And the point remains that you know good and well it would've been a totally different story if the races were reversed and she was a BLM protester.
Sam Lowry
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Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Sam Lowry said:

GrowlTowel said:

Sam Lowry said:

I mean how can you justify red glitter and not justify thousands of people assaulting the Capitol Police in a violent attempt to stop the peaceful transfer of power?

It just doesn't make sense.
When did that happen?
Two questions:

1. Do you know anything at all about law enforcement?

2. Do you honestly think this is equivalent to J6 from a law enforcement point of view?

These are yes or no questions. And the first one is mostly rhetorical (I hope), so that should make it even simpler.
A special thanks to officer Michael Byrd for taking out unarmed Air Force Veteran Ashli Babbitt.
Rightly so.

Had Babbitt been a black BLM protestor and had Byrd been a white capitol police officer with all other things being equal, I'm sure your response along with the others that think like you would be exactly the same - right??
Mine would. I don't know about anyone else.

LOL! You bet!!
You can bet on it. As one who considers Rittenhouse a hero, I can assure you I would shed no tears.

Now the same question to you. Had Babbitt been a black BLM protestor and had Byrd been a white Capitol Police officer, with all other things being equal, what is your response?

Per the parameters of all other things being equal (I.e. the BLM protestor was unarmed and not engaging in rioting or any other clearly violent behavior), I would certainly not feel that Byrd should automatically be considered a hero worthy of having a medal pinned on him for justifiably killing an "insurrectionist". I would furthermore feel that the murder should be thoroughly investigated in an unbiased manner and proper action taken if the results of the investigation warrants it. Everyone regardless of race should be held accountable.

Now that I've answered the hypothetical, for the record I still don't believe you and you know good and well had that hypothetical actually been the fact pattern, Byrd would probably be in prison today or would have at least lost his job in disgrace and the incident would have likely served as another St. Floyd like excuse for rioting, burning, and looting especially to the extent that would've been politically helpful to the left.
For the record, you didn't answer the question. You just made up a whole different scenario where Babbitt wasn't engaged in rioting. Thanks for the LOL.

Not at all. Just re-affirming all other things remained the same - and I did answer the question. You're welcome for the LOL and I stand by it.
So just one more time for the record. If BLM protesters smashed and tried to climb through a window to the House Chamber, while some members of Congress were being evacuated and others were trapped in the House balcony, this would not qualify as a riot in your opinion?


Nice try, but it was an unjustified shooting:

https://www.judicialwatch.org/videos/outrageous-shooting-death-of-ashli-babbitt-judicial-watch-sues/

And the point remains that you know good and well it would've been a totally different story if the races were reversed and she was a BLM protester.
Eight minutes of nothing but conclusory rhetoric and opinion.

And you didn't answer the question. If BLM protesters had smashed and tried to climb through a window to the House Chamber, while members of Congress were being evacuated or trapped in the House balcony, would this not qualify as a riot in your opinion?
Whiskey Pete
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Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

All of you deep down know that if Trump won in 2020 and Dems did the same thing as MAGA on Jan 6, the media and most of DC would be applauding them for exercising their right to protest.

YOU KNOW THIS FOR A FACT.
That's probably true, but it's not the real issue. The question is whether any Democratic candidate would or could have convinced them to do it.

You can't begin to analyze it until you recognize that Trump duped his supporters in an unprecedented way.

B.S. If anybody was duped it was the people that bought the whole dimcrat/BLM Saint George Floyd farce.

It always goes back to black people with you zealots. Why is that?

It always goes back to Trump living rent free in the heads of you marxists. Why is that?

Oh buddy, but it doesn't. I am perfectly happy forgetting about him, except that he is probably the Republican candidate again.

Are you able to answer my question? Why you deflect towards black people when your side is pressed?

First of all I resent and am offended by what you are implying with your falsely premised question. I realize you have likely been indoctrinated to believe that believers in conservative principles are all racists that want to return to the Jim Crow days of the 1950's. The truth is that unlike the left, conservatives actually believe in MLK's dream of a country where everyone (and everyone means everyone) is judged on the content of their character as opposed to the color of their skin - and it doesn't just go one way.

Here's the difference. Because also unlike your side conservatives don't believe the lie that America is an inherently racist country dominated by white supremacist oppressors hell bent on screwing over the black community, we don't believe black people or any other race or group should constantly be given an automatic pass on virtually any kind of behavior simply because of their race or ethnicity. I along with other conservatives couldn't care less about George Floyd's race, and like a good little lefty it's actually you who is playing the race card here. I do care that innocent people were murdered and millions of $$ in damages needlessly occurred (much of it impacting minority citizens by the way) in the summer of 2020 because of the actions of hordes of leftist rent a mob thugs who have never been held accountable in any material way. And it was all because of a ginned up farce manufactured for political reasons - which was what the whole St. George Floyd fiasco was - and his race or the race of the majority of the people doing the rioting and looting has nothing to do with it.

https://www.thefallofminneapolis.com/

By contrast, ironically, what happened on January 6 actually was a "mostly peaceful protest" where a small minority of people did some bad things and deserve to be punished for it. But it is beyond laughable to call that an insurrection, again, unlike what happened in the summer of 2020.


You still aren't answering the question. Why is it that you people predictably bring up blacks when faced with Jan 6 scrutiny? That is the question, so either try an answer or don't.
Why do liberals constantly cry racism when a black person doesn't get what they want or when something doesn't go their way?
Whiskey Pete
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Sam Lowry said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Sam Lowry said:

GrowlTowel said:

Sam Lowry said:

I mean how can you justify red glitter and not justify thousands of people assaulting the Capitol Police in a violent attempt to stop the peaceful transfer of power?

It just doesn't make sense.
When did that happen?
Two questions:

1. Do you know anything at all about law enforcement?

2. Do you honestly think this is equivalent to J6 from a law enforcement point of view?

These are yes or no questions. And the first one is mostly rhetorical (I hope), so that should make it even simpler.
A special thanks to officer Michael Byrd for taking out unarmed Air Force Veteran Ashli Babbitt.
Rightly so.

Had Babbitt been a black BLM protestor and had Byrd been a white capitol police officer with all other things being equal, I'm sure your response along with the others that think like you would be exactly the same - right??
Mine would. I don't know about anyone else.

LOL! You bet!!
You can bet on it. As one who considers Rittenhouse a hero, I can assure you I would shed no tears.

Now the same question to you. Had Babbitt been a black BLM protestor and had Byrd been a white Capitol Police officer, with all other things being equal, what is your response?

Per the parameters of all other things being equal (I.e. the BLM protestor was unarmed and not engaging in rioting or any other clearly violent behavior), I would certainly not feel that Byrd should automatically be considered a hero worthy of having a medal pinned on him for justifiably killing an "insurrectionist". I would furthermore feel that the murder should be thoroughly investigated in an unbiased manner and proper action taken if the results of the investigation warrants it. Everyone regardless of race should be held accountable.

Now that I've answered the hypothetical, for the record I still don't believe you and you know good and well had that hypothetical actually been the fact pattern, Byrd would probably be in prison today or would have at least lost his job in disgrace and the incident would have likely served as another St. Floyd like excuse for rioting, burning, and looting especially to the extent that would've been politically helpful to the left.
For the record, you didn't answer the question. You just made up a whole different scenario where Babbitt wasn't engaged in rioting. Thanks for the LOL.

Not at all. Just re-affirming all other things remained the same - and I did answer the question. You're welcome for the LOL and I stand by it.
So just one more time for the record. If BLM protesters smashed and tried to climb through a window to the House Chamber, while some members of Congress were being evacuated and others were trapped in the House balcony, this would not qualify as a riot in your opinion?
Babbitt played a stupid game and won a stupid prize. Officer should've been identified immediately and shooting honestly investigated.

If the colors were reversed, it should've been treated the exact same way. Of course, if Babbitt was black and Byrd was white, it would've been used by the media and politicians to fan the flames of racism/hatred for political gain.

If Byrd stayed black and Babbitt was black, Byrd would've been called a black face white supremacist and it used to, again, fan flames of racism and hatred.

Sam Lowry
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Whiskey Pete said:

Sam Lowry said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Sam Lowry said:

GrowlTowel said:

Sam Lowry said:

I mean how can you justify red glitter and not justify thousands of people assaulting the Capitol Police in a violent attempt to stop the peaceful transfer of power?

It just doesn't make sense.
When did that happen?
Two questions:

1. Do you know anything at all about law enforcement?

2. Do you honestly think this is equivalent to J6 from a law enforcement point of view?

These are yes or no questions. And the first one is mostly rhetorical (I hope), so that should make it even simpler.
A special thanks to officer Michael Byrd for taking out unarmed Air Force Veteran Ashli Babbitt.
Rightly so.

Had Babbitt been a black BLM protestor and had Byrd been a white capitol police officer with all other things being equal, I'm sure your response along with the others that think like you would be exactly the same - right??
Mine would. I don't know about anyone else.

LOL! You bet!!
You can bet on it. As one who considers Rittenhouse a hero, I can assure you I would shed no tears.

Now the same question to you. Had Babbitt been a black BLM protestor and had Byrd been a white Capitol Police officer, with all other things being equal, what is your response?

Per the parameters of all other things being equal (I.e. the BLM protestor was unarmed and not engaging in rioting or any other clearly violent behavior), I would certainly not feel that Byrd should automatically be considered a hero worthy of having a medal pinned on him for justifiably killing an "insurrectionist". I would furthermore feel that the murder should be thoroughly investigated in an unbiased manner and proper action taken if the results of the investigation warrants it. Everyone regardless of race should be held accountable.

Now that I've answered the hypothetical, for the record I still don't believe you and you know good and well had that hypothetical actually been the fact pattern, Byrd would probably be in prison today or would have at least lost his job in disgrace and the incident would have likely served as another St. Floyd like excuse for rioting, burning, and looting especially to the extent that would've been politically helpful to the left.
For the record, you didn't answer the question. You just made up a whole different scenario where Babbitt wasn't engaged in rioting. Thanks for the LOL.

Not at all. Just re-affirming all other things remained the same - and I did answer the question. You're welcome for the LOL and I stand by it.
So just one more time for the record. If BLM protesters smashed and tried to climb through a window to the House Chamber, while some members of Congress were being evacuated and others were trapped in the House balcony, this would not qualify as a riot in your opinion?
Babbitt played a stupid game and won a stupid prize. Officer should've been identified immediately and shooting honestly investigated.

If the colors were reversed, it should've been treated the exact same way. Of course, if Babbitt was black and Byrd was white, it would've been used by the media and politicians to fan the flames of racism/hatred for political gain.

If Byrd stayed black and Babbitt was black, Byrd would've been called a black face white supremacist and it used to, again, fan flames of racism and hatred.


I pretty much agree, but I think they were right not to identify him. Why do you say there wasn't an honest investigation?

What are Republicans accomplishing by acting like BLM or worse? Is it supposed to win sympathy from the media?
Whiskey Pete
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Sam Lowry said:

Whiskey Pete said:

Sam Lowry said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Sam Lowry said:

GrowlTowel said:

Sam Lowry said:

I mean how can you justify red glitter and not justify thousands of people assaulting the Capitol Police in a violent attempt to stop the peaceful transfer of power?

It just doesn't make sense.
When did that happen?
Two questions:

1. Do you know anything at all about law enforcement?

2. Do you honestly think this is equivalent to J6 from a law enforcement point of view?

These are yes or no questions. And the first one is mostly rhetorical (I hope), so that should make it even simpler.
A special thanks to officer Michael Byrd for taking out unarmed Air Force Veteran Ashli Babbitt.
Rightly so.

Had Babbitt been a black BLM protestor and had Byrd been a white capitol police officer with all other things being equal, I'm sure your response along with the others that think like you would be exactly the same - right??
Mine would. I don't know about anyone else.

LOL! You bet!!
You can bet on it. As one who considers Rittenhouse a hero, I can assure you I would shed no tears.

Now the same question to you. Had Babbitt been a black BLM protestor and had Byrd been a white Capitol Police officer, with all other things being equal, what is your response?

Per the parameters of all other things being equal (I.e. the BLM protestor was unarmed and not engaging in rioting or any other clearly violent behavior), I would certainly not feel that Byrd should automatically be considered a hero worthy of having a medal pinned on him for justifiably killing an "insurrectionist". I would furthermore feel that the murder should be thoroughly investigated in an unbiased manner and proper action taken if the results of the investigation warrants it. Everyone regardless of race should be held accountable.

Now that I've answered the hypothetical, for the record I still don't believe you and you know good and well had that hypothetical actually been the fact pattern, Byrd would probably be in prison today or would have at least lost his job in disgrace and the incident would have likely served as another St. Floyd like excuse for rioting, burning, and looting especially to the extent that would've been politically helpful to the left.
For the record, you didn't answer the question. You just made up a whole different scenario where Babbitt wasn't engaged in rioting. Thanks for the LOL.

Not at all. Just re-affirming all other things remained the same - and I did answer the question. You're welcome for the LOL and I stand by it.
So just one more time for the record. If BLM protesters smashed and tried to climb through a window to the House Chamber, while some members of Congress were being evacuated and others were trapped in the House balcony, this would not qualify as a riot in your opinion?
Babbitt played a stupid game and won a stupid prize. Officer should've been identified immediately and shooting honestly investigated.

If the colors were reversed, it should've been treated the exact same way. Of course, if Babbitt was black and Byrd was white, it would've been used by the media and politicians to fan the flames of racism/hatred for political gain.

If Byrd stayed black and Babbitt was black, Byrd would've been called a black face white supremacist and it used to, again, fan flames of racism and hatred.


I pretty much agree, but I think they were right not to identify him. Why do you say there wasn't an honest investigation?

What are Republicans accomplishing by acting like BLM or worse? Is it supposed to win sympathy from the media?
I question the honesty of the investigation because they withheld the name of the shooter. In other officer involved shootings (especially when it's interracial) they release the name of the cop pretty damn quick. The fact that this was treated differently, to me, gives it (at least) a gray cloud over it.

Why shouldn't it win sympathy from the media? Look how the press treats black people when they are rioting. They're all victims, don't ya' know. For simply being born in America.
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Mafia Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

I mean how can you justify red glitter and not justify thousands of people assaulting the Capitol Police in a violent attempt to stop the peaceful transfer of power?

It just doesn't make sense.
You forgot to use the words: Feds, false flag, entrapment, murder of American citizen, and election fraud. Other than that you got it all.
So Jan 6th didn't happen?
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The US Government attacked the constitution before - and in a more dangerous way - than these two climate activists.

National Archives Slaps 'Harmful Content' Warning On Constitution, All Other Founding Documents

https://thefederalist.com/2021/09/08/national-archives-issues-harmful-content-warning-on-constitution-all-other-founding-documents/
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FLBear5630 said:

Mafia Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

I mean how can you justify red glitter and not justify thousands of people assaulting the Capitol Police in a violent attempt to stop the peaceful transfer of power?

It just doesn't make sense.
You forgot to use the words: Feds, false flag, entrapment, murder of American citizen, and election fraud. Other than that you got it all.
So Jan 6th didn't happen?

Jan 6th happens every year. It's Feb 29th that's a bit iffy.

21st day of September is usually a fun one.



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LIB,MR BEARS said:

FLBear5630 said:

Mafia Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

I mean how can you justify red glitter and not justify thousands of people assaulting the Capitol Police in a violent attempt to stop the peaceful transfer of power?

It just doesn't make sense.
You forgot to use the words: Feds, false flag, entrapment, murder of American citizen, and election fraud. Other than that you got it all.
So Jan 6th didn't happen?

Jan 6th happens every year. It's Feb 29th that's a bit iffy.

21st day of September is usually a fun one.






Exactly, Jan 6th 2021 was a normal day. Nothing happened worth noting.
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Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

All of you deep down know that if Trump won in 2020 and Dems did the same thing as MAGA on Jan 6, the media and most of DC would be applauding them for exercising their right to protest.

YOU KNOW THIS FOR A FACT.
That's probably true, but it's not the real issue. The question is whether any Democratic candidate would or could have convinced them to do it.

You can't begin to analyze it until you recognize that Trump duped his supporters in an unprecedented way.

B.S. If anybody was duped it was the people that bought the whole dimcrat/BLM Saint George Floyd farce.

It always goes back to black people with you zealots. Why is that?

It always goes back to Trump living rent free in the heads of you marxists. Why is that?

Oh buddy, but it doesn't. I am perfectly happy forgetting about him, except that he is probably the Republican candidate again.

Are you able to answer my question? Why you deflect towards black people when your side is pressed?

First of all I resent and am offended by what you are implying with your falsely premised question. I realize you have likely been indoctrinated to believe that believers in conservative principles are all racists that want to return to the Jim Crow days of the 1950's. The truth is that unlike the left, conservatives actually believe in MLK's dream of a country where everyone (and everyone means everyone) is judged on the content of their character as opposed to the color of their skin - and it doesn't just go one way.

Here's the difference. Because also unlike your side conservatives don't believe the lie that America is an inherently racist country dominated by white supremacist oppressors hell bent on screwing over the black community, we don't believe black people or any other race or group should constantly be given an automatic pass on virtually any kind of behavior simply because of their race or ethnicity. I along with other conservatives couldn't care less about George Floyd's race, and like a good little lefty it's actually you who is playing the race card here. I do care that innocent people were murdered and millions of $$ in damages needlessly occurred (much of it impacting minority citizens by the way) in the summer of 2020 because of the actions of hordes of leftist rent a mob thugs who have never been held accountable in any material way. And it was all because of a ginned up farce manufactured for political reasons - which was what the whole St. George Floyd fiasco was - and his race or the race of the majority of the people doing the rioting and looting has nothing to do with it.

https://www.thefallofminneapolis.com/

By contrast, ironically, what happened on January 6 actually was a "mostly peaceful protest" where a small minority of people did some bad things and deserve to be punished for it. But it is beyond laughable to call that an insurrection, again, unlike what happened in the summer of 2020.


You still aren't answering the question. Why is it that you people predictably bring up blacks when faced with Jan 6 scrutiny? That is the question, so either try an answer or don't.

Try reading the post again - perhaps more slowly this time - as I absolutely answered the question. It's not about "predictably bringing up blacks" and that's a false premise. On the other hand, it IS about not excluding or giving a pass to guilty people simply because of their race as you racist lefties would have it.
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Still waiting for an answer to my question.
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Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

All of you deep down know that if Trump won in 2020 and Dems did the same thing as MAGA on Jan 6, the media and most of DC would be applauding them for exercising their right to protest.

YOU KNOW THIS FOR A FACT.
That's probably true, but it's not the real issue. The question is whether any Democratic candidate would or could have convinced them to do it.

You can't begin to analyze it until you recognize that Trump duped his supporters in an unprecedented way.

B.S. If anybody was duped it was the people that bought the whole dimcrat/BLM Saint George Floyd farce.

It always goes back to black people with you zealots. Why is that?

It always goes back to Trump living rent free in the heads of you marxists. Why is that?

Oh buddy, but it doesn't. I am perfectly happy forgetting about him, except that he is probably the Republican candidate again.

Are you able to answer my question? Why you deflect towards black people when your side is pressed?

First of all I resent and am offended by what you are implying with your falsely premised question. I realize you have likely been indoctrinated to believe that believers in conservative principles are all racists that want to return to the Jim Crow days of the 1950's. The truth is that unlike the left, conservatives actually believe in MLK's dream of a country where everyone (and everyone means everyone) is judged on the content of their character as opposed to the color of their skin - and it doesn't just go one way.

Here's the difference. Because also unlike your side conservatives don't believe the lie that America is an inherently racist country dominated by white supremacist oppressors hell bent on screwing over the black community, we don't believe black people or any other race or group should constantly be given an automatic pass on virtually any kind of behavior simply because of their race or ethnicity. I along with other conservatives couldn't care less about George Floyd's race, and like a good little lefty it's actually you who is playing the race card here. I do care that innocent people were murdered and millions of $$ in damages needlessly occurred (much of it impacting minority citizens by the way) in the summer of 2020 because of the actions of hordes of leftist rent a mob thugs who have never been held accountable in any material way. And it was all because of a ginned up farce manufactured for political reasons - which was what the whole St. George Floyd fiasco was - and his race or the race of the majority of the people doing the rioting and looting has nothing to do with it.

https://www.thefallofminneapolis.com/

By contrast, ironically, what happened on January 6 actually was a "mostly peaceful protest" where a small minority of people did some bad things and deserve to be punished for it. But it is beyond laughable to call that an insurrection, again, unlike what happened in the summer of 2020.


You still aren't answering the question. Why is it that you people predictably bring up blacks when faced with Jan 6 scrutiny? That is the question, so either try an answer or don't.

Try reading the post again - perhaps more slowly this time - as I absolutely answered the question. It's not about "predictably bringing up blacks" and that's a false premise. On the other hand, it IS about not excluding or giving a pass to guilty people simply because of their race as you racist lefties would have it.
Leftists hide behind race when protecting the brown shirt wing of the democrat party. Same way they protected Obama from any and all criticism. We heard, "You only say that because he's black!!!" ad nauseam.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

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Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

All of you deep down know that if Trump won in 2020 and Dems did the same thing as MAGA on Jan 6, the media and most of DC would be applauding them for exercising their right to protest.

YOU KNOW THIS FOR A FACT.
That's probably true, but it's not the real issue. The question is whether any Democratic candidate would or could have convinced them to do it.

You can't begin to analyze it until you recognize that Trump duped his supporters in an unprecedented way.

B.S. If anybody was duped it was the people that bought the whole dimcrat/BLM Saint George Floyd farce.

It always goes back to black people with you zealots. Why is that?

It always goes back to Trump living rent free in the heads of you marxists. Why is that?

Oh buddy, but it doesn't. I am perfectly happy forgetting about him, except that he is probably the Republican candidate again.

Are you able to answer my question? Why you deflect towards black people when your side is pressed?

First of all I resent and am offended by what you are implying with your falsely premised question. I realize you have likely been indoctrinated to believe that believers in conservative principles are all racists that want to return to the Jim Crow days of the 1950's. The truth is that unlike the left, conservatives actually believe in MLK's dream of a country where everyone (and everyone means everyone) is judged on the content of their character as opposed to the color of their skin - and it doesn't just go one way.

Here's the difference. Because also unlike your side conservatives don't believe the lie that America is an inherently racist country dominated by white supremacist oppressors hell bent on screwing over the black community, we don't believe black people or any other race or group should constantly be given an automatic pass on virtually any kind of behavior simply because of their race or ethnicity. I along with other conservatives couldn't care less about George Floyd's race, and like a good little lefty it's actually you who is playing the race card here. I do care that innocent people were murdered and millions of $$ in damages needlessly occurred (much of it impacting minority citizens by the way) in the summer of 2020 because of the actions of hordes of leftist rent a mob thugs who have never been held accountable in any material way. And it was all because of a ginned up farce manufactured for political reasons - which was what the whole St. George Floyd fiasco was - and his race or the race of the majority of the people doing the rioting and looting has nothing to do with it.

https://www.thefallofminneapolis.com/

By contrast, ironically, what happened on January 6 actually was a "mostly peaceful protest" where a small minority of people did some bad things and deserve to be punished for it. But it is beyond laughable to call that an insurrection, again, unlike what happened in the summer of 2020.


You still aren't answering the question. Why is it that you people predictably bring up blacks when faced with Jan 6 scrutiny? That is the question, so either try an answer or don't.

Try reading the post again - perhaps more slowly this time - as I absolutely answered the question. It's not about "predictably bringing up blacks" and that's a false premise. On the other hand, it IS about not excluding or giving a pass to guilty people simply because of their race as you racist lefties would have it.

Because you reject the question, you won't answer? Yeah I wouldn't try to answer it either.
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Wangchung said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

All of you deep down know that if Trump won in 2020 and Dems did the same thing as MAGA on Jan 6, the media and most of DC would be applauding them for exercising their right to protest.

YOU KNOW THIS FOR A FACT.
That's probably true, but it's not the real issue. The question is whether any Democratic candidate would or could have convinced them to do it.

You can't begin to analyze it until you recognize that Trump duped his supporters in an unprecedented way.

B.S. If anybody was duped it was the people that bought the whole dimcrat/BLM Saint George Floyd farce.

It always goes back to black people with you zealots. Why is that?

It always goes back to Trump living rent free in the heads of you marxists. Why is that?

Oh buddy, but it doesn't. I am perfectly happy forgetting about him, except that he is probably the Republican candidate again.

Are you able to answer my question? Why you deflect towards black people when your side is pressed?

First of all I resent and am offended by what you are implying with your falsely premised question. I realize you have likely been indoctrinated to believe that believers in conservative principles are all racists that want to return to the Jim Crow days of the 1950's. The truth is that unlike the left, conservatives actually believe in MLK's dream of a country where everyone (and everyone means everyone) is judged on the content of their character as opposed to the color of their skin - and it doesn't just go one way.

Here's the difference. Because also unlike your side conservatives don't believe the lie that America is an inherently racist country dominated by white supremacist oppressors hell bent on screwing over the black community, we don't believe black people or any other race or group should constantly be given an automatic pass on virtually any kind of behavior simply because of their race or ethnicity. I along with other conservatives couldn't care less about George Floyd's race, and like a good little lefty it's actually you who is playing the race card here. I do care that innocent people were murdered and millions of $$ in damages needlessly occurred (much of it impacting minority citizens by the way) in the summer of 2020 because of the actions of hordes of leftist rent a mob thugs who have never been held accountable in any material way. And it was all because of a ginned up farce manufactured for political reasons - which was what the whole St. George Floyd fiasco was - and his race or the race of the majority of the people doing the rioting and looting has nothing to do with it.

https://www.thefallofminneapolis.com/

By contrast, ironically, what happened on January 6 actually was a "mostly peaceful protest" where a small minority of people did some bad things and deserve to be punished for it. But it is beyond laughable to call that an insurrection, again, unlike what happened in the summer of 2020.


You still aren't answering the question. Why is it that you people predictably bring up blacks when faced with Jan 6 scrutiny? That is the question, so either try an answer or don't.

Try reading the post again - perhaps more slowly this time - as I absolutely answered the question. It's not about "predictably bringing up blacks" and that's a false premise. On the other hand, it IS about not excluding or giving a pass to guilty people simply because of their race as you racist lefties would have it.
Leftists hide behind race when protecting the brown shirt wing of the democrat party. Same way they protected Obama from any and all criticism. We heard, "You only say that because he's black!!!" ad nauseam.

In this case it is righties hiding behind the actions of blm, every time Jan 6 is brought up. But of course it is not the only case.
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Porteroso said:

Wangchung said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

All of you deep down know that if Trump won in 2020 and Dems did the same thing as MAGA on Jan 6, the media and most of DC would be applauding them for exercising their right to protest.

YOU KNOW THIS FOR A FACT.
That's probably true, but it's not the real issue. The question is whether any Democratic candidate would or could have convinced them to do it.

You can't begin to analyze it until you recognize that Trump duped his supporters in an unprecedented way.

B.S. If anybody was duped it was the people that bought the whole dimcrat/BLM Saint George Floyd farce.

It always goes back to black people with you zealots. Why is that?

It always goes back to Trump living rent free in the heads of you marxists. Why is that?

Oh buddy, but it doesn't. I am perfectly happy forgetting about him, except that he is probably the Republican candidate again.

Are you able to answer my question? Why you deflect towards black people when your side is pressed?

First of all I resent and am offended by what you are implying with your falsely premised question. I realize you have likely been indoctrinated to believe that believers in conservative principles are all racists that want to return to the Jim Crow days of the 1950's. The truth is that unlike the left, conservatives actually believe in MLK's dream of a country where everyone (and everyone means everyone) is judged on the content of their character as opposed to the color of their skin - and it doesn't just go one way.

Here's the difference. Because also unlike your side conservatives don't believe the lie that America is an inherently racist country dominated by white supremacist oppressors hell bent on screwing over the black community, we don't believe black people or any other race or group should constantly be given an automatic pass on virtually any kind of behavior simply because of their race or ethnicity. I along with other conservatives couldn't care less about George Floyd's race, and like a good little lefty it's actually you who is playing the race card here. I do care that innocent people were murdered and millions of $$ in damages needlessly occurred (much of it impacting minority citizens by the way) in the summer of 2020 because of the actions of hordes of leftist rent a mob thugs who have never been held accountable in any material way. And it was all because of a ginned up farce manufactured for political reasons - which was what the whole St. George Floyd fiasco was - and his race or the race of the majority of the people doing the rioting and looting has nothing to do with it.

https://www.thefallofminneapolis.com/

By contrast, ironically, what happened on January 6 actually was a "mostly peaceful protest" where a small minority of people did some bad things and deserve to be punished for it. But it is beyond laughable to call that an insurrection, again, unlike what happened in the summer of 2020.


You still aren't answering the question. Why is it that you people predictably bring up blacks when faced with Jan 6 scrutiny? That is the question, so either try an answer or don't.

Try reading the post again - perhaps more slowly this time - as I absolutely answered the question. It's not about "predictably bringing up blacks" and that's a false premise. On the other hand, it IS about not excluding or giving a pass to guilty people simply because of their race as you racist lefties would have it.
Leftists hide behind race when protecting the brown shirt wing of the democrat party. Same way they protected Obama from any and all criticism. We heard, "You only say that because he's black!!!" ad nauseam.

In this case it is righties hiding behind the actions of blm, every time Jan 6 is brought up. But of course it is not the only case.
That's like whining about bringing up a different president when making statements about the current president, right? 8 months of riots, looting and murders but because the funding for the rioting was done under the auspices of black lives mattering we cant criticize the result...or we are RaCiSt! Hilarious. 8 months of riots and flaunting of Covid restrictions while the rest of America lost jobs, homes and more because they didn't get a free "Im a victim" pass to go out and burn down their cities and then pretend a 3 hour unarmed demonstration at the capital was an insurrection when Republicans watch the same democrats who cheered on the deadly riots turn around and change voting rules due to the same disease they ignored while cheering and justifying the blm rioting. But you go on gaslighting about Trump, it sure tracks with the same busllhit narrative democrats have been pushing since 2015.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

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Wangchung said:

Porteroso said:

Wangchung said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

All of you deep down know that if Trump won in 2020 and Dems did the same thing as MAGA on Jan 6, the media and most of DC would be applauding them for exercising their right to protest.

YOU KNOW THIS FOR A FACT.
That's probably true, but it's not the real issue. The question is whether any Democratic candidate would or could have convinced them to do it.

You can't begin to analyze it until you recognize that Trump duped his supporters in an unprecedented way.

B.S. If anybody was duped it was the people that bought the whole dimcrat/BLM Saint George Floyd farce.

It always goes back to black people with you zealots. Why is that?

It always goes back to Trump living rent free in the heads of you marxists. Why is that?

Oh buddy, but it doesn't. I am perfectly happy forgetting about him, except that he is probably the Republican candidate again.

Are you able to answer my question? Why you deflect towards black people when your side is pressed?

First of all I resent and am offended by what you are implying with your falsely premised question. I realize you have likely been indoctrinated to believe that believers in conservative principles are all racists that want to return to the Jim Crow days of the 1950's. The truth is that unlike the left, conservatives actually believe in MLK's dream of a country where everyone (and everyone means everyone) is judged on the content of their character as opposed to the color of their skin - and it doesn't just go one way.

Here's the difference. Because also unlike your side conservatives don't believe the lie that America is an inherently racist country dominated by white supremacist oppressors hell bent on screwing over the black community, we don't believe black people or any other race or group should constantly be given an automatic pass on virtually any kind of behavior simply because of their race or ethnicity. I along with other conservatives couldn't care less about George Floyd's race, and like a good little lefty it's actually you who is playing the race card here. I do care that innocent people were murdered and millions of $$ in damages needlessly occurred (much of it impacting minority citizens by the way) in the summer of 2020 because of the actions of hordes of leftist rent a mob thugs who have never been held accountable in any material way. And it was all because of a ginned up farce manufactured for political reasons - which was what the whole St. George Floyd fiasco was - and his race or the race of the majority of the people doing the rioting and looting has nothing to do with it.

https://www.thefallofminneapolis.com/

By contrast, ironically, what happened on January 6 actually was a "mostly peaceful protest" where a small minority of people did some bad things and deserve to be punished for it. But it is beyond laughable to call that an insurrection, again, unlike what happened in the summer of 2020.


You still aren't answering the question. Why is it that you people predictably bring up blacks when faced with Jan 6 scrutiny? That is the question, so either try an answer or don't.

Try reading the post again - perhaps more slowly this time - as I absolutely answered the question. It's not about "predictably bringing up blacks" and that's a false premise. On the other hand, it IS about not excluding or giving a pass to guilty people simply because of their race as you racist lefties would have it.
Leftists hide behind race when protecting the brown shirt wing of the democrat party. Same way they protected Obama from any and all criticism. We heard, "You only say that because he's black!!!" ad nauseam.

In this case it is righties hiding behind the actions of blm, every time Jan 6 is brought up. But of course it is not the only case.
That's like whining about bringing up a different president when making statements about the current president, right? 8 months of riots, looting and murders but because the funding for the rioting was done under the auspices of black lives mattering we cant criticize the result...or we are RaCiSt! Hilarious. 8 months of riots and flaunting of Covid restrictions while the rest of America lost jobs, homes and more because they didn't get a free "Im a victim" pass to go out and burn down their cities and then pretend a 3 hour unarmed demonstration at the capital was an insurrection when Republicans watch the same democrats who cheered on the deadly riots turn around and change voting rules due to the same disease they ignored while cheering and justifying the blm rioting. But you go on gaslighting about Trump, it sure tracks with the same busllhit narrative democrats have been pushing since 2015.

It really is every time a conservative gets pressed on Jan 6 that black lives matter is brought up. I mean every time. Conservative would have been better off just admitting it was a pathetic attempt of an insurrection than to continually try to deny it and hide behind "well, but they did it too, and worse!"
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Wangchung said:

Porteroso said:

Wangchung said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

All of you deep down know that if Trump won in 2020 and Dems did the same thing as MAGA on Jan 6, the media and most of DC would be applauding them for exercising their right to protest.

YOU KNOW THIS FOR A FACT.
That's probably true, but it's not the real issue. The question is whether any Democratic candidate would or could have convinced them to do it.

You can't begin to analyze it until you recognize that Trump duped his supporters in an unprecedented way.

B.S. If anybody was duped it was the people that bought the whole dimcrat/BLM Saint George Floyd farce.

It always goes back to black people with you zealots. Why is that?

It always goes back to Trump living rent free in the heads of you marxists. Why is that?

Oh buddy, but it doesn't. I am perfectly happy forgetting about him, except that he is probably the Republican candidate again.

Are you able to answer my question? Why you deflect towards black people when your side is pressed?

First of all I resent and am offended by what you are implying with your falsely premised question. I realize you have likely been indoctrinated to believe that believers in conservative principles are all racists that want to return to the Jim Crow days of the 1950's. The truth is that unlike the left, conservatives actually believe in MLK's dream of a country where everyone (and everyone means everyone) is judged on the content of their character as opposed to the color of their skin - and it doesn't just go one way.

Here's the difference. Because also unlike your side conservatives don't believe the lie that America is an inherently racist country dominated by white supremacist oppressors hell bent on screwing over the black community, we don't believe black people or any other race or group should constantly be given an automatic pass on virtually any kind of behavior simply because of their race or ethnicity. I along with other conservatives couldn't care less about George Floyd's race, and like a good little lefty it's actually you who is playing the race card here. I do care that innocent people were murdered and millions of $$ in damages needlessly occurred (much of it impacting minority citizens by the way) in the summer of 2020 because of the actions of hordes of leftist rent a mob thugs who have never been held accountable in any material way. And it was all because of a ginned up farce manufactured for political reasons - which was what the whole St. George Floyd fiasco was - and his race or the race of the majority of the people doing the rioting and looting has nothing to do with it.

https://www.thefallofminneapolis.com/

By contrast, ironically, what happened on January 6 actually was a "mostly peaceful protest" where a small minority of people did some bad things and deserve to be punished for it. But it is beyond laughable to call that an insurrection, again, unlike what happened in the summer of 2020.


You still aren't answering the question. Why is it that you people predictably bring up blacks when faced with Jan 6 scrutiny? That is the question, so either try an answer or don't.

Try reading the post again - perhaps more slowly this time - as I absolutely answered the question. It's not about "predictably bringing up blacks" and that's a false premise. On the other hand, it IS about not excluding or giving a pass to guilty people simply because of their race as you racist lefties would have it.
Leftists hide behind race when protecting the brown shirt wing of the democrat party. Same way they protected Obama from any and all criticism. We heard, "You only say that because he's black!!!" ad nauseam.

In this case it is righties hiding behind the actions of blm, every time Jan 6 is brought up. But of course it is not the only case.
That's like whining about bringing up a different president when making statements about the current president, right? 8 months of riots, looting and murders but because the funding for the rioting was done under the auspices of black lives mattering we cant criticize the result...or we are RaCiSt! Hilarious. 8 months of riots and flaunting of Covid restrictions while the rest of America lost jobs, homes and more because they didn't get a free "Im a victim" pass to go out and burn down their cities and then pretend a 3 hour unarmed demonstration at the capital was an insurrection when Republicans watch the same democrats who cheered on the deadly riots turn around and change voting rules due to the same disease they ignored while cheering and justifying the blm rioting. But you go on gaslighting about Trump, it sure tracks with the same busllhit narrative democrats have been pushing since 2015.
Time out, if there was simply a demonstration at Congress after Trump's speech nothing get's said. Maybe "sore loser" or not showing "dignity of the office". End of story.

But, that is not what happened. The demonstrators he told to go to Congress stormed Congress and Congress had to be evacuated. There was violence, forced entry and destruction of property. So, to say nothing happened and Trump had nothing to do with it is not accurate or true. This was life on TV, most of America watched. Saying that it was fabricated or made worse after the fact doesn't wash, I don't know one person, MAGA or not, that watched that and said this is good. Most MAGA I know said "I'm out, this is too far".

I didn't agree with the format of the Jan 6th Commission, I thought there should have been cross-examination a defense. But the Jan 6th Commission had to happen after the mess that happened. Trump needs to answer questions under oath about what he knew. He was the one on the stage.

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FLBear5630 said:

Wangchung said:

Porteroso said:

Wangchung said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

All of you deep down know that if Trump won in 2020 and Dems did the same thing as MAGA on Jan 6, the media and most of DC would be applauding them for exercising their right to protest.

YOU KNOW THIS FOR A FACT.
That's probably true, but it's not the real issue. The question is whether any Democratic candidate would or could have convinced them to do it.

You can't begin to analyze it until you recognize that Trump duped his supporters in an unprecedented way.

B.S. If anybody was duped it was the people that bought the whole dimcrat/BLM Saint George Floyd farce.

It always goes back to black people with you zealots. Why is that?

It always goes back to Trump living rent free in the heads of you marxists. Why is that?

Oh buddy, but it doesn't. I am perfectly happy forgetting about him, except that he is probably the Republican candidate again.

Are you able to answer my question? Why you deflect towards black people when your side is pressed?

First of all I resent and am offended by what you are implying with your falsely premised question. I realize you have likely been indoctrinated to believe that believers in conservative principles are all racists that want to return to the Jim Crow days of the 1950's. The truth is that unlike the left, conservatives actually believe in MLK's dream of a country where everyone (and everyone means everyone) is judged on the content of their character as opposed to the color of their skin - and it doesn't just go one way.

Here's the difference. Because also unlike your side conservatives don't believe the lie that America is an inherently racist country dominated by white supremacist oppressors hell bent on screwing over the black community, we don't believe black people or any other race or group should constantly be given an automatic pass on virtually any kind of behavior simply because of their race or ethnicity. I along with other conservatives couldn't care less about George Floyd's race, and like a good little lefty it's actually you who is playing the race card here. I do care that innocent people were murdered and millions of $$ in damages needlessly occurred (much of it impacting minority citizens by the way) in the summer of 2020 because of the actions of hordes of leftist rent a mob thugs who have never been held accountable in any material way. And it was all because of a ginned up farce manufactured for political reasons - which was what the whole St. George Floyd fiasco was - and his race or the race of the majority of the people doing the rioting and looting has nothing to do with it.

https://www.thefallofminneapolis.com/

By contrast, ironically, what happened on January 6 actually was a "mostly peaceful protest" where a small minority of people did some bad things and deserve to be punished for it. But it is beyond laughable to call that an insurrection, again, unlike what happened in the summer of 2020.


You still aren't answering the question. Why is it that you people predictably bring up blacks when faced with Jan 6 scrutiny? That is the question, so either try an answer or don't.

Try reading the post again - perhaps more slowly this time - as I absolutely answered the question. It's not about "predictably bringing up blacks" and that's a false premise. On the other hand, it IS about not excluding or giving a pass to guilty people simply because of their race as you racist lefties would have it.
Leftists hide behind race when protecting the brown shirt wing of the democrat party. Same way they protected Obama from any and all criticism. We heard, "You only say that because he's black!!!" ad nauseam.

In this case it is righties hiding behind the actions of blm, every time Jan 6 is brought up. But of course it is not the only case.
That's like whining about bringing up a different president when making statements about the current president, right? 8 months of riots, looting and murders but because the funding for the rioting was done under the auspices of black lives mattering we cant criticize the result...or we are RaCiSt! Hilarious. 8 months of riots and flaunting of Covid restrictions while the rest of America lost jobs, homes and more because they didn't get a free "Im a victim" pass to go out and burn down their cities and then pretend a 3 hour unarmed demonstration at the capital was an insurrection when Republicans watch the same democrats who cheered on the deadly riots turn around and change voting rules due to the same disease they ignored while cheering and justifying the blm rioting. But you go on gaslighting about Trump, it sure tracks with the same busllhit narrative democrats have been pushing since 2015.
Time out, if there was simply a demonstration at Congress after Trump's speech nothing get's said. Maybe "sore loser" or not showing "dignity of the office". End of story.

But, that is not what happened. The demonstrators he told to go to Congress stormed Congress and Congress had to be evacuated. There was violence, forced entry and destruction of property. So, to say nothing happened and Trump had nothing to do with it is not accurate or true. This was life on TV, most of America watched. Saying that it was fabricated or made worse after the fact doesn't wash, I don't know one person, MAGA or not, that watched that and said this is good. Most MAGA I know said "I'm out, this is too far".

I didn't agree with the format of the Jan 6th Commission, I thought there should have been cross-examination a defense. But the Jan 6th Commission had to happen after the mess that happened. Trump needs to answer questions under oath about what he knew. He was the one on the stage.


An honest Republican...welcome to the club! We're planning a party in D.C. when we get our tenth member, so keep your calendar open. I'm guessing some time during Trump's third term.
Wangchung
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Porteroso said:

Wangchung said:

Porteroso said:

Wangchung said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

All of you deep down know that if Trump won in 2020 and Dems did the same thing as MAGA on Jan 6, the media and most of DC would be applauding them for exercising their right to protest.

YOU KNOW THIS FOR A FACT.
That's probably true, but it's not the real issue. The question is whether any Democratic candidate would or could have convinced them to do it.

You can't begin to analyze it until you recognize that Trump duped his supporters in an unprecedented way.

B.S. If anybody was duped it was the people that bought the whole dimcrat/BLM Saint George Floyd farce.

It always goes back to black people with you zealots. Why is that?

It always goes back to Trump living rent free in the heads of you marxists. Why is that?

Oh buddy, but it doesn't. I am perfectly happy forgetting about him, except that he is probably the Republican candidate again.

Are you able to answer my question? Why you deflect towards black people when your side is pressed?

First of all I resent and am offended by what you are implying with your falsely premised question. I realize you have likely been indoctrinated to believe that believers in conservative principles are all racists that want to return to the Jim Crow days of the 1950's. The truth is that unlike the left, conservatives actually believe in MLK's dream of a country where everyone (and everyone means everyone) is judged on the content of their character as opposed to the color of their skin - and it doesn't just go one way.

Here's the difference. Because also unlike your side conservatives don't believe the lie that America is an inherently racist country dominated by white supremacist oppressors hell bent on screwing over the black community, we don't believe black people or any other race or group should constantly be given an automatic pass on virtually any kind of behavior simply because of their race or ethnicity. I along with other conservatives couldn't care less about George Floyd's race, and like a good little lefty it's actually you who is playing the race card here. I do care that innocent people were murdered and millions of $$ in damages needlessly occurred (much of it impacting minority citizens by the way) in the summer of 2020 because of the actions of hordes of leftist rent a mob thugs who have never been held accountable in any material way. And it was all because of a ginned up farce manufactured for political reasons - which was what the whole St. George Floyd fiasco was - and his race or the race of the majority of the people doing the rioting and looting has nothing to do with it.

https://www.thefallofminneapolis.com/

By contrast, ironically, what happened on January 6 actually was a "mostly peaceful protest" where a small minority of people did some bad things and deserve to be punished for it. But it is beyond laughable to call that an insurrection, again, unlike what happened in the summer of 2020.


You still aren't answering the question. Why is it that you people predictably bring up blacks when faced with Jan 6 scrutiny? That is the question, so either try an answer or don't.

Try reading the post again - perhaps more slowly this time - as I absolutely answered the question. It's not about "predictably bringing up blacks" and that's a false premise. On the other hand, it IS about not excluding or giving a pass to guilty people simply because of their race as you racist lefties would have it.
Leftists hide behind race when protecting the brown shirt wing of the democrat party. Same way they protected Obama from any and all criticism. We heard, "You only say that because he's black!!!" ad nauseam.

In this case it is righties hiding behind the actions of blm, every time Jan 6 is brought up. But of course it is not the only case.
That's like whining about bringing up a different president when making statements about the current president, right? 8 months of riots, looting and murders but because the funding for the rioting was done under the auspices of black lives mattering we cant criticize the result...or we are RaCiSt! Hilarious. 8 months of riots and flaunting of Covid restrictions while the rest of America lost jobs, homes and more because they didn't get a free "Im a victim" pass to go out and burn down their cities and then pretend a 3 hour unarmed demonstration at the capital was an insurrection when Republicans watch the same democrats who cheered on the deadly riots turn around and change voting rules due to the same disease they ignored while cheering and justifying the blm rioting. But you go on gaslighting about Trump, it sure tracks with the same busllhit narrative democrats have been pushing since 2015.

It really is every time a conservative gets pressed on Jan 6 that black lives matter is brought up. I mean every time. Conservative would have been better off just admitting it was a pathetic attempt of an insurrection than to continually try to deny it and hide behind "well, but they did it too, and worse!"
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Yes, because one was part of what led to the other. Want to keep going in circles then just ignore that I've been telling you that and repeat your statement that Republicans bring up with 8 months of democrats sponsored and cheered riots that, when added to the election chicanery by democrats, led up the Republican response on Jan 6th. People who bent the knee to BLM do NOT get to feign outrage over Jan 6th.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

Wangchung
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FLBear5630 said:

Wangchung said:

Porteroso said:

Wangchung said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

All of you deep down know that if Trump won in 2020 and Dems did the same thing as MAGA on Jan 6, the media and most of DC would be applauding them for exercising their right to protest.

YOU KNOW THIS FOR A FACT.
That's probably true, but it's not the real issue. The question is whether any Democratic candidate would or could have convinced them to do it.

You can't begin to analyze it until you recognize that Trump duped his supporters in an unprecedented way.

B.S. If anybody was duped it was the people that bought the whole dimcrat/BLM Saint George Floyd farce.

It always goes back to black people with you zealots. Why is that?

It always goes back to Trump living rent free in the heads of you marxists. Why is that?

Oh buddy, but it doesn't. I am perfectly happy forgetting about him, except that he is probably the Republican candidate again.

Are you able to answer my question? Why you deflect towards black people when your side is pressed?

First of all I resent and am offended by what you are implying with your falsely premised question. I realize you have likely been indoctrinated to believe that believers in conservative principles are all racists that want to return to the Jim Crow days of the 1950's. The truth is that unlike the left, conservatives actually believe in MLK's dream of a country where everyone (and everyone means everyone) is judged on the content of their character as opposed to the color of their skin - and it doesn't just go one way.

Here's the difference. Because also unlike your side conservatives don't believe the lie that America is an inherently racist country dominated by white supremacist oppressors hell bent on screwing over the black community, we don't believe black people or any other race or group should constantly be given an automatic pass on virtually any kind of behavior simply because of their race or ethnicity. I along with other conservatives couldn't care less about George Floyd's race, and like a good little lefty it's actually you who is playing the race card here. I do care that innocent people were murdered and millions of $$ in damages needlessly occurred (much of it impacting minority citizens by the way) in the summer of 2020 because of the actions of hordes of leftist rent a mob thugs who have never been held accountable in any material way. And it was all because of a ginned up farce manufactured for political reasons - which was what the whole St. George Floyd fiasco was - and his race or the race of the majority of the people doing the rioting and looting has nothing to do with it.

https://www.thefallofminneapolis.com/

By contrast, ironically, what happened on January 6 actually was a "mostly peaceful protest" where a small minority of people did some bad things and deserve to be punished for it. But it is beyond laughable to call that an insurrection, again, unlike what happened in the summer of 2020.


You still aren't answering the question. Why is it that you people predictably bring up blacks when faced with Jan 6 scrutiny? That is the question, so either try an answer or don't.

Try reading the post again - perhaps more slowly this time - as I absolutely answered the question. It's not about "predictably bringing up blacks" and that's a false premise. On the other hand, it IS about not excluding or giving a pass to guilty people simply because of their race as you racist lefties would have it.
Leftists hide behind race when protecting the brown shirt wing of the democrat party. Same way they protected Obama from any and all criticism. We heard, "You only say that because he's black!!!" ad nauseam.

In this case it is righties hiding behind the actions of blm, every time Jan 6 is brought up. But of course it is not the only case.
That's like whining about bringing up a different president when making statements about the current president, right? 8 months of riots, looting and murders but because the funding for the rioting was done under the auspices of black lives mattering we cant criticize the result...or we are RaCiSt! Hilarious. 8 months of riots and flaunting of Covid restrictions while the rest of America lost jobs, homes and more because they didn't get a free "Im a victim" pass to go out and burn down their cities and then pretend a 3 hour unarmed demonstration at the capital was an insurrection when Republicans watch the same democrats who cheered on the deadly riots turn around and change voting rules due to the same disease they ignored while cheering and justifying the blm rioting. But you go on gaslighting about Trump, it sure tracks with the same busllhit narrative democrats have been pushing since 2015.
Time out, if there was simply a demonstration at Congress after Trump's speech nothing get's said. Maybe "sore loser" or not showing "dignity of the office". End of story.

But, that is not what happened. The demonstrators he told to go to Congress AND DEMONSTRATE PEACEFULLY A D PATRIOTICALLY stormed Congress and Congress had to be evacuated. There was violence, SOME forced entry AND SOME GRANTED ACCESS and A FRACTION OF THE destruction of property THE DEMOCRATS HAD CAUSED IN THEIR 8 MONTHS OF PEACEFUL PROTESTING. So, to say nothing happened and Trump had nothing to do with it is not accurate or true. This was life on TV, most of America watched. Saying that it was fabricated or made worse after the fact doesn't wash, I don't know one person, MAGA or not, that watched that and said this is good. Most MAGA I know said "I'm out, this is too far".

I didn't agree with the format of the Jan 6th Commission, I thought there should have been cross-examination a defense. But the Jan 6th Commission had to happen after the mess that happened. Trump needs to answer questions under oath about what he knew. He was the one on the stage.


Ah yes, we MUST investigate Trump further! Yes, voting rules were changed illegally in many districts but asking for investigation into that means a criminal lawsuit must be filed, right Fani? 3 hours of an unarmed demonstration that saw more people allowed into the building than the number of those who forced their way in is not an insurrection. A crowd of a few thousand with over 200 FBI assets instigating the worst behaviors is not an insurrection, it's a set up. If you left the Republican Party after Jan 6th you're the exact weak minded target of the people who orchestrated the democrat's Reichstag Fire.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

FLBear5630
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Wangchung said:

FLBear5630 said:

Wangchung said:

Porteroso said:

Wangchung said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

All of you deep down know that if Trump won in 2020 and Dems did the same thing as MAGA on Jan 6, the media and most of DC would be applauding them for exercising their right to protest.

YOU KNOW THIS FOR A FACT.
That's probably true, but it's not the real issue. The question is whether any Democratic candidate would or could have convinced them to do it.

You can't begin to analyze it until you recognize that Trump duped his supporters in an unprecedented way.

B.S. If anybody was duped it was the people that bought the whole dimcrat/BLM Saint George Floyd farce.

It always goes back to black people with you zealots. Why is that?

It always goes back to Trump living rent free in the heads of you marxists. Why is that?

Oh buddy, but it doesn't. I am perfectly happy forgetting about him, except that he is probably the Republican candidate again.

Are you able to answer my question? Why you deflect towards black people when your side is pressed?

First of all I resent and am offended by what you are implying with your falsely premised question. I realize you have likely been indoctrinated to believe that believers in conservative principles are all racists that want to return to the Jim Crow days of the 1950's. The truth is that unlike the left, conservatives actually believe in MLK's dream of a country where everyone (and everyone means everyone) is judged on the content of their character as opposed to the color of their skin - and it doesn't just go one way.

Here's the difference. Because also unlike your side conservatives don't believe the lie that America is an inherently racist country dominated by white supremacist oppressors hell bent on screwing over the black community, we don't believe black people or any other race or group should constantly be given an automatic pass on virtually any kind of behavior simply because of their race or ethnicity. I along with other conservatives couldn't care less about George Floyd's race, and like a good little lefty it's actually you who is playing the race card here. I do care that innocent people were murdered and millions of $$ in damages needlessly occurred (much of it impacting minority citizens by the way) in the summer of 2020 because of the actions of hordes of leftist rent a mob thugs who have never been held accountable in any material way. And it was all because of a ginned up farce manufactured for political reasons - which was what the whole St. George Floyd fiasco was - and his race or the race of the majority of the people doing the rioting and looting has nothing to do with it.

https://www.thefallofminneapolis.com/

By contrast, ironically, what happened on January 6 actually was a "mostly peaceful protest" where a small minority of people did some bad things and deserve to be punished for it. But it is beyond laughable to call that an insurrection, again, unlike what happened in the summer of 2020.


You still aren't answering the question. Why is it that you people predictably bring up blacks when faced with Jan 6 scrutiny? That is the question, so either try an answer or don't.

Try reading the post again - perhaps more slowly this time - as I absolutely answered the question. It's not about "predictably bringing up blacks" and that's a false premise. On the other hand, it IS about not excluding or giving a pass to guilty people simply because of their race as you racist lefties would have it.
Leftists hide behind race when protecting the brown shirt wing of the democrat party. Same way they protected Obama from any and all criticism. We heard, "You only say that because he's black!!!" ad nauseam.

In this case it is righties hiding behind the actions of blm, every time Jan 6 is brought up. But of course it is not the only case.
That's like whining about bringing up a different president when making statements about the current president, right? 8 months of riots, looting and murders but because the funding for the rioting was done under the auspices of black lives mattering we cant criticize the result...or we are RaCiSt! Hilarious. 8 months of riots and flaunting of Covid restrictions while the rest of America lost jobs, homes and more because they didn't get a free "Im a victim" pass to go out and burn down their cities and then pretend a 3 hour unarmed demonstration at the capital was an insurrection when Republicans watch the same democrats who cheered on the deadly riots turn around and change voting rules due to the same disease they ignored while cheering and justifying the blm rioting. But you go on gaslighting about Trump, it sure tracks with the same busllhit narrative democrats have been pushing since 2015.
Time out, if there was simply a demonstration at Congress after Trump's speech nothing get's said. Maybe "sore loser" or not showing "dignity of the office". End of story.

But, that is not what happened. The demonstrators he told to go to Congress AND DEMONSTRATE PEACEFULLY A D PATRIOTICALLY stormed Congress and Congress had to be evacuated. There was violence, SOME forced entry AND SOME GRANTED ACCESS and A FRACTION OF THE destruction of property THE DEMOCRATS HAD CAUSED IN THEIR 8 MONTHS OF PEACEFUL PROTESTING. So, to say nothing happened and Trump had nothing to do with it is not accurate or true. This was life on TV, most of America watched. Saying that it was fabricated or made worse after the fact doesn't wash, I don't know one person, MAGA or not, that watched that and said this is good. Most MAGA I know said "I'm out, this is too far".

I didn't agree with the format of the Jan 6th Commission, I thought there should have been cross-examination a defense. But the Jan 6th Commission had to happen after the mess that happened. Trump needs to answer questions under oath about what he knew. He was the one on the stage.


Ah yes, we MUST investigate Trump further! Yes, voting rules were changed illegally in many districts but asking for investigation into that means a criminal lawsuit must be filed, right Fani? 3 hours of an unarmed demonstration that saw more people allowed into the building than the number of those who forced their way in is not an insurrection. A crowd of a few thousand with over 200 FBI assets instigating the worst behaviors is not an insurrection, it's a set up. If you left the Republican Party after Jan 6th you're the exact weak minded target of the people who orchestrated the democrat's Reichstag Fire.
Further? Who said anything about further? Is there more??? What else has he done?

I would be satisfied with him answering his current charges. Him winning or getting them dismissed because they are baseless would go a long way in making more people comfortable voting for him.
Wangchung
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FLBear5630 said:

Wangchung said:

FLBear5630 said:

Wangchung said:

Porteroso said:

Wangchung said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

All of you deep down know that if Trump won in 2020 and Dems did the same thing as MAGA on Jan 6, the media and most of DC would be applauding them for exercising their right to protest.

YOU KNOW THIS FOR A FACT.
That's probably true, but it's not the real issue. The question is whether any Democratic candidate would or could have convinced them to do it.

You can't begin to analyze it until you recognize that Trump duped his supporters in an unprecedented way.

B.S. If anybody was duped it was the people that bought the whole dimcrat/BLM Saint George Floyd farce.

It always goes back to black people with you zealots. Why is that?

It always goes back to Trump living rent free in the heads of you marxists. Why is that?

Oh buddy, but it doesn't. I am perfectly happy forgetting about him, except that he is probably the Republican candidate again.

Are you able to answer my question? Why you deflect towards black people when your side is pressed?

First of all I resent and am offended by what you are implying with your falsely premised question. I realize you have likely been indoctrinated to believe that believers in conservative principles are all racists that want to return to the Jim Crow days of the 1950's. The truth is that unlike the left, conservatives actually believe in MLK's dream of a country where everyone (and everyone means everyone) is judged on the content of their character as opposed to the color of their skin - and it doesn't just go one way.

Here's the difference. Because also unlike your side conservatives don't believe the lie that America is an inherently racist country dominated by white supremacist oppressors hell bent on screwing over the black community, we don't believe black people or any other race or group should constantly be given an automatic pass on virtually any kind of behavior simply because of their race or ethnicity. I along with other conservatives couldn't care less about George Floyd's race, and like a good little lefty it's actually you who is playing the race card here. I do care that innocent people were murdered and millions of $$ in damages needlessly occurred (much of it impacting minority citizens by the way) in the summer of 2020 because of the actions of hordes of leftist rent a mob thugs who have never been held accountable in any material way. And it was all because of a ginned up farce manufactured for political reasons - which was what the whole St. George Floyd fiasco was - and his race or the race of the majority of the people doing the rioting and looting has nothing to do with it.

https://www.thefallofminneapolis.com/

By contrast, ironically, what happened on January 6 actually was a "mostly peaceful protest" where a small minority of people did some bad things and deserve to be punished for it. But it is beyond laughable to call that an insurrection, again, unlike what happened in the summer of 2020.


You still aren't answering the question. Why is it that you people predictably bring up blacks when faced with Jan 6 scrutiny? That is the question, so either try an answer or don't.

Try reading the post again - perhaps more slowly this time - as I absolutely answered the question. It's not about "predictably bringing up blacks" and that's a false premise. On the other hand, it IS about not excluding or giving a pass to guilty people simply because of their race as you racist lefties would have it.
Leftists hide behind race when protecting the brown shirt wing of the democrat party. Same way they protected Obama from any and all criticism. We heard, "You only say that because he's black!!!" ad nauseam.

In this case it is righties hiding behind the actions of blm, every time Jan 6 is brought up. But of course it is not the only case.
That's like whining about bringing up a different president when making statements about the current president, right? 8 months of riots, looting and murders but because the funding for the rioting was done under the auspices of black lives mattering we cant criticize the result...or we are RaCiSt! Hilarious. 8 months of riots and flaunting of Covid restrictions while the rest of America lost jobs, homes and more because they didn't get a free "Im a victim" pass to go out and burn down their cities and then pretend a 3 hour unarmed demonstration at the capital was an insurrection when Republicans watch the same democrats who cheered on the deadly riots turn around and change voting rules due to the same disease they ignored while cheering and justifying the blm rioting. But you go on gaslighting about Trump, it sure tracks with the same busllhit narrative democrats have been pushing since 2015.
Time out, if there was simply a demonstration at Congress after Trump's speech nothing get's said. Maybe "sore loser" or not showing "dignity of the office". End of story.

But, that is not what happened. The demonstrators he told to go to Congress AND DEMONSTRATE PEACEFULLY A D PATRIOTICALLY stormed Congress and Congress had to be evacuated. There was violence, SOME forced entry AND SOME GRANTED ACCESS and A FRACTION OF THE destruction of property THE DEMOCRATS HAD CAUSED IN THEIR 8 MONTHS OF PEACEFUL PROTESTING. So, to say nothing happened and Trump had nothing to do with it is not accurate or true. This was life on TV, most of America watched. Saying that it was fabricated or made worse after the fact doesn't wash, I don't know one person, MAGA or not, that watched that and said this is good. Most MAGA I know said "I'm out, this is too far".

I didn't agree with the format of the Jan 6th Commission, I thought there should have been cross-examination a defense. But the Jan 6th Commission had to happen after the mess that happened. Trump needs to answer questions under oath about what he knew. He was the one on the stage.


Ah yes, we MUST investigate Trump further! Yes, voting rules were changed illegally in many districts but asking for investigation into that means a criminal lawsuit must be filed, right Fani? 3 hours of an unarmed demonstration that saw more people allowed into the building than the number of those who forced their way in is not an insurrection. A crowd of a few thousand with over 200 FBI assets instigating the worst behaviors is not an insurrection, it's a set up. If you left the Republican Party after Jan 6th you're the exact weak minded target of the people who orchestrated the democrat's Reichstag Fire.
Further? Who said anything about further? Is there more??? What else has he done?

I would be satisfied with him answering his current charges. Him winning or getting them dismissed because they are baseless would go a long way in making more people comfortable voting for him.
Only the people with very little knowledge would be swayed by any further developments. As it stands, the triple digit IQ crowd sees the disparity in treatment, the weaponizing of the justice system and remembers the lack of credibility of the source of all these accusations.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

FLBear5630
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Wangchung said:

FLBear5630 said:

Wangchung said:

FLBear5630 said:

Wangchung said:

Porteroso said:

Wangchung said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

All of you deep down know that if Trump won in 2020 and Dems did the same thing as MAGA on Jan 6, the media and most of DC would be applauding them for exercising their right to protest.

YOU KNOW THIS FOR A FACT.
That's probably true, but it's not the real issue. The question is whether any Democratic candidate would or could have convinced them to do it.

You can't begin to analyze it until you recognize that Trump duped his supporters in an unprecedented way.

B.S. If anybody was duped it was the people that bought the whole dimcrat/BLM Saint George Floyd farce.

It always goes back to black people with you zealots. Why is that?

It always goes back to Trump living rent free in the heads of you marxists. Why is that?

Oh buddy, but it doesn't. I am perfectly happy forgetting about him, except that he is probably the Republican candidate again.

Are you able to answer my question? Why you deflect towards black people when your side is pressed?

First of all I resent and am offended by what you are implying with your falsely premised question. I realize you have likely been indoctrinated to believe that believers in conservative principles are all racists that want to return to the Jim Crow days of the 1950's. The truth is that unlike the left, conservatives actually believe in MLK's dream of a country where everyone (and everyone means everyone) is judged on the content of their character as opposed to the color of their skin - and it doesn't just go one way.

Here's the difference. Because also unlike your side conservatives don't believe the lie that America is an inherently racist country dominated by white supremacist oppressors hell bent on screwing over the black community, we don't believe black people or any other race or group should constantly be given an automatic pass on virtually any kind of behavior simply because of their race or ethnicity. I along with other conservatives couldn't care less about George Floyd's race, and like a good little lefty it's actually you who is playing the race card here. I do care that innocent people were murdered and millions of $$ in damages needlessly occurred (much of it impacting minority citizens by the way) in the summer of 2020 because of the actions of hordes of leftist rent a mob thugs who have never been held accountable in any material way. And it was all because of a ginned up farce manufactured for political reasons - which was what the whole St. George Floyd fiasco was - and his race or the race of the majority of the people doing the rioting and looting has nothing to do with it.

https://www.thefallofminneapolis.com/

By contrast, ironically, what happened on January 6 actually was a "mostly peaceful protest" where a small minority of people did some bad things and deserve to be punished for it. But it is beyond laughable to call that an insurrection, again, unlike what happened in the summer of 2020.


You still aren't answering the question. Why is it that you people predictably bring up blacks when faced with Jan 6 scrutiny? That is the question, so either try an answer or don't.

Try reading the post again - perhaps more slowly this time - as I absolutely answered the question. It's not about "predictably bringing up blacks" and that's a false premise. On the other hand, it IS about not excluding or giving a pass to guilty people simply because of their race as you racist lefties would have it.
Leftists hide behind race when protecting the brown shirt wing of the democrat party. Same way they protected Obama from any and all criticism. We heard, "You only say that because he's black!!!" ad nauseam.

In this case it is righties hiding behind the actions of blm, every time Jan 6 is brought up. But of course it is not the only case.
That's like whining about bringing up a different president when making statements about the current president, right? 8 months of riots, looting and murders but because the funding for the rioting was done under the auspices of black lives mattering we cant criticize the result...or we are RaCiSt! Hilarious. 8 months of riots and flaunting of Covid restrictions while the rest of America lost jobs, homes and more because they didn't get a free "Im a victim" pass to go out and burn down their cities and then pretend a 3 hour unarmed demonstration at the capital was an insurrection when Republicans watch the same democrats who cheered on the deadly riots turn around and change voting rules due to the same disease they ignored while cheering and justifying the blm rioting. But you go on gaslighting about Trump, it sure tracks with the same busllhit narrative democrats have been pushing since 2015.
Time out, if there was simply a demonstration at Congress after Trump's speech nothing get's said. Maybe "sore loser" or not showing "dignity of the office". End of story.

But, that is not what happened. The demonstrators he told to go to Congress AND DEMONSTRATE PEACEFULLY A D PATRIOTICALLY stormed Congress and Congress had to be evacuated. There was violence, SOME forced entry AND SOME GRANTED ACCESS and A FRACTION OF THE destruction of property THE DEMOCRATS HAD CAUSED IN THEIR 8 MONTHS OF PEACEFUL PROTESTING. So, to say nothing happened and Trump had nothing to do with it is not accurate or true. This was life on TV, most of America watched. Saying that it was fabricated or made worse after the fact doesn't wash, I don't know one person, MAGA or not, that watched that and said this is good. Most MAGA I know said "I'm out, this is too far".

I didn't agree with the format of the Jan 6th Commission, I thought there should have been cross-examination a defense. But the Jan 6th Commission had to happen after the mess that happened. Trump needs to answer questions under oath about what he knew. He was the one on the stage.


Ah yes, we MUST investigate Trump further! Yes, voting rules were changed illegally in many districts but asking for investigation into that means a criminal lawsuit must be filed, right Fani? 3 hours of an unarmed demonstration that saw more people allowed into the building than the number of those who forced their way in is not an insurrection. A crowd of a few thousand with over 200 FBI assets instigating the worst behaviors is not an insurrection, it's a set up. If you left the Republican Party after Jan 6th you're the exact weak minded target of the people who orchestrated the democrat's Reichstag Fire.
Further? Who said anything about further? Is there more??? What else has he done?

I would be satisfied with him answering his current charges. Him winning or getting them dismissed because they are baseless would go a long way in making more people comfortable voting for him.
Only the people with very little knowledge would be swayed by any further developments. As it stands, the triple digit IQ crowd sees the disparity in treatment, the weaponizing of the justice system and remembers the lack of credibility of the source of all these accusations.
Yet, the Court Cases go forward. The Supreme Court has treated them as real cases. The Judges have not dismissed, some of the Judges are Trump appointees. If there is no basis in fact, as you state, surely the Conservative Supreme Court would have jumped at the chance to stop this. Doesn't seem to be happening.
Wangchung
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FLBear5630 said:

Wangchung said:

FLBear5630 said:

Wangchung said:

FLBear5630 said:

Wangchung said:

Porteroso said:

Wangchung said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

All of you deep down know that if Trump won in 2020 and Dems did the same thing as MAGA on Jan 6, the media and most of DC would be applauding them for exercising their right to protest.

YOU KNOW THIS FOR A FACT.
That's probably true, but it's not the real issue. The question is whether any Democratic candidate would or could have convinced them to do it.

You can't begin to analyze it until you recognize that Trump duped his supporters in an unprecedented way.

B.S. If anybody was duped it was the people that bought the whole dimcrat/BLM Saint George Floyd farce.

It always goes back to black people with you zealots. Why is that?

It always goes back to Trump living rent free in the heads of you marxists. Why is that?

Oh buddy, but it doesn't. I am perfectly happy forgetting about him, except that he is probably the Republican candidate again.

Are you able to answer my question? Why you deflect towards black people when your side is pressed?

First of all I resent and am offended by what you are implying with your falsely premised question. I realize you have likely been indoctrinated to believe that believers in conservative principles are all racists that want to return to the Jim Crow days of the 1950's. The truth is that unlike the left, conservatives actually believe in MLK's dream of a country where everyone (and everyone means everyone) is judged on the content of their character as opposed to the color of their skin - and it doesn't just go one way.

Here's the difference. Because also unlike your side conservatives don't believe the lie that America is an inherently racist country dominated by white supremacist oppressors hell bent on screwing over the black community, we don't believe black people or any other race or group should constantly be given an automatic pass on virtually any kind of behavior simply because of their race or ethnicity. I along with other conservatives couldn't care less about George Floyd's race, and like a good little lefty it's actually you who is playing the race card here. I do care that innocent people were murdered and millions of $$ in damages needlessly occurred (much of it impacting minority citizens by the way) in the summer of 2020 because of the actions of hordes of leftist rent a mob thugs who have never been held accountable in any material way. And it was all because of a ginned up farce manufactured for political reasons - which was what the whole St. George Floyd fiasco was - and his race or the race of the majority of the people doing the rioting and looting has nothing to do with it.

https://www.thefallofminneapolis.com/

By contrast, ironically, what happened on January 6 actually was a "mostly peaceful protest" where a small minority of people did some bad things and deserve to be punished for it. But it is beyond laughable to call that an insurrection, again, unlike what happened in the summer of 2020.


You still aren't answering the question. Why is it that you people predictably bring up blacks when faced with Jan 6 scrutiny? That is the question, so either try an answer or don't.

Try reading the post again - perhaps more slowly this time - as I absolutely answered the question. It's not about "predictably bringing up blacks" and that's a false premise. On the other hand, it IS about not excluding or giving a pass to guilty people simply because of their race as you racist lefties would have it.
Leftists hide behind race when protecting the brown shirt wing of the democrat party. Same way they protected Obama from any and all criticism. We heard, "You only say that because he's black!!!" ad nauseam.

In this case it is righties hiding behind the actions of blm, every time Jan 6 is brought up. But of course it is not the only case.
That's like whining about bringing up a different president when making statements about the current president, right? 8 months of riots, looting and murders but because the funding for the rioting was done under the auspices of black lives mattering we cant criticize the result...or we are RaCiSt! Hilarious. 8 months of riots and flaunting of Covid restrictions while the rest of America lost jobs, homes and more because they didn't get a free "Im a victim" pass to go out and burn down their cities and then pretend a 3 hour unarmed demonstration at the capital was an insurrection when Republicans watch the same democrats who cheered on the deadly riots turn around and change voting rules due to the same disease they ignored while cheering and justifying the blm rioting. But you go on gaslighting about Trump, it sure tracks with the same busllhit narrative democrats have been pushing since 2015.
Time out, if there was simply a demonstration at Congress after Trump's speech nothing get's said. Maybe "sore loser" or not showing "dignity of the office". End of story.

But, that is not what happened. The demonstrators he told to go to Congress AND DEMONSTRATE PEACEFULLY A D PATRIOTICALLY stormed Congress and Congress had to be evacuated. There was violence, SOME forced entry AND SOME GRANTED ACCESS and A FRACTION OF THE destruction of property THE DEMOCRATS HAD CAUSED IN THEIR 8 MONTHS OF PEACEFUL PROTESTING. So, to say nothing happened and Trump had nothing to do with it is not accurate or true. This was life on TV, most of America watched. Saying that it was fabricated or made worse after the fact doesn't wash, I don't know one person, MAGA or not, that watched that and said this is good. Most MAGA I know said "I'm out, this is too far".

I didn't agree with the format of the Jan 6th Commission, I thought there should have been cross-examination a defense. But the Jan 6th Commission had to happen after the mess that happened. Trump needs to answer questions under oath about what he knew. He was the one on the stage.


Ah yes, we MUST investigate Trump further! Yes, voting rules were changed illegally in many districts but asking for investigation into that means a criminal lawsuit must be filed, right Fani? 3 hours of an unarmed demonstration that saw more people allowed into the building than the number of those who forced their way in is not an insurrection. A crowd of a few thousand with over 200 FBI assets instigating the worst behaviors is not an insurrection, it's a set up. If you left the Republican Party after Jan 6th you're the exact weak minded target of the people who orchestrated the democrat's Reichstag Fire.
Further? Who said anything about further? Is there more??? What else has he done?

I would be satisfied with him answering his current charges. Him winning or getting them dismissed because they are baseless would go a long way in making more people comfortable voting for him.
Only the people with very little knowledge would be swayed by any further developments. As it stands, the triple digit IQ crowd sees the disparity in treatment, the weaponizing of the justice system and remembers the lack of credibility of the source of all these accusations.
Yet, the Court Cases go forward. The Supreme Court has treated them as real cases. The Judges have not dismissed, some of the Judges are Trump appointees. If there is no basis in fact, as you state, surely the Conservative Supreme Court would have jumped at the chance to stop this. Doesn't seem to be happening.
So you're under the impression that the Supreme Court swoops into active trials to put a stop to an obviously biased and unjust court case? That explains a LOT.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

FLBear5630
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Wangchung said:

FLBear5630 said:

Wangchung said:

FLBear5630 said:

Wangchung said:

FLBear5630 said:

Wangchung said:

Porteroso said:

Wangchung said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

All of you deep down know that if Trump won in 2020 and Dems did the same thing as MAGA on Jan 6, the media and most of DC would be applauding them for exercising their right to protest.

YOU KNOW THIS FOR A FACT.
That's probably true, but it's not the real issue. The question is whether any Democratic candidate would or could have convinced them to do it.

You can't begin to analyze it until you recognize that Trump duped his supporters in an unprecedented way.

B.S. If anybody was duped it was the people that bought the whole dimcrat/BLM Saint George Floyd farce.

It always goes back to black people with you zealots. Why is that?

It always goes back to Trump living rent free in the heads of you marxists. Why is that?

Oh buddy, but it doesn't. I am perfectly happy forgetting about him, except that he is probably the Republican candidate again.

Are you able to answer my question? Why you deflect towards black people when your side is pressed?

First of all I resent and am offended by what you are implying with your falsely premised question. I realize you have likely been indoctrinated to believe that believers in conservative principles are all racists that want to return to the Jim Crow days of the 1950's. The truth is that unlike the left, conservatives actually believe in MLK's dream of a country where everyone (and everyone means everyone) is judged on the content of their character as opposed to the color of their skin - and it doesn't just go one way.

Here's the difference. Because also unlike your side conservatives don't believe the lie that America is an inherently racist country dominated by white supremacist oppressors hell bent on screwing over the black community, we don't believe black people or any other race or group should constantly be given an automatic pass on virtually any kind of behavior simply because of their race or ethnicity. I along with other conservatives couldn't care less about George Floyd's race, and like a good little lefty it's actually you who is playing the race card here. I do care that innocent people were murdered and millions of $$ in damages needlessly occurred (much of it impacting minority citizens by the way) in the summer of 2020 because of the actions of hordes of leftist rent a mob thugs who have never been held accountable in any material way. And it was all because of a ginned up farce manufactured for political reasons - which was what the whole St. George Floyd fiasco was - and his race or the race of the majority of the people doing the rioting and looting has nothing to do with it.

https://www.thefallofminneapolis.com/

By contrast, ironically, what happened on January 6 actually was a "mostly peaceful protest" where a small minority of people did some bad things and deserve to be punished for it. But it is beyond laughable to call that an insurrection, again, unlike what happened in the summer of 2020.


You still aren't answering the question. Why is it that you people predictably bring up blacks when faced with Jan 6 scrutiny? That is the question, so either try an answer or don't.

Try reading the post again - perhaps more slowly this time - as I absolutely answered the question. It's not about "predictably bringing up blacks" and that's a false premise. On the other hand, it IS about not excluding or giving a pass to guilty people simply because of their race as you racist lefties would have it.
Leftists hide behind race when protecting the brown shirt wing of the democrat party. Same way they protected Obama from any and all criticism. We heard, "You only say that because he's black!!!" ad nauseam.

In this case it is righties hiding behind the actions of blm, every time Jan 6 is brought up. But of course it is not the only case.
That's like whining about bringing up a different president when making statements about the current president, right? 8 months of riots, looting and murders but because the funding for the rioting was done under the auspices of black lives mattering we cant criticize the result...or we are RaCiSt! Hilarious. 8 months of riots and flaunting of Covid restrictions while the rest of America lost jobs, homes and more because they didn't get a free "Im a victim" pass to go out and burn down their cities and then pretend a 3 hour unarmed demonstration at the capital was an insurrection when Republicans watch the same democrats who cheered on the deadly riots turn around and change voting rules due to the same disease they ignored while cheering and justifying the blm rioting. But you go on gaslighting about Trump, it sure tracks with the same busllhit narrative democrats have been pushing since 2015.
Time out, if there was simply a demonstration at Congress after Trump's speech nothing get's said. Maybe "sore loser" or not showing "dignity of the office". End of story.

But, that is not what happened. The demonstrators he told to go to Congress AND DEMONSTRATE PEACEFULLY A D PATRIOTICALLY stormed Congress and Congress had to be evacuated. There was violence, SOME forced entry AND SOME GRANTED ACCESS and A FRACTION OF THE destruction of property THE DEMOCRATS HAD CAUSED IN THEIR 8 MONTHS OF PEACEFUL PROTESTING. So, to say nothing happened and Trump had nothing to do with it is not accurate or true. This was life on TV, most of America watched. Saying that it was fabricated or made worse after the fact doesn't wash, I don't know one person, MAGA or not, that watched that and said this is good. Most MAGA I know said "I'm out, this is too far".

I didn't agree with the format of the Jan 6th Commission, I thought there should have been cross-examination a defense. But the Jan 6th Commission had to happen after the mess that happened. Trump needs to answer questions under oath about what he knew. He was the one on the stage.


Ah yes, we MUST investigate Trump further! Yes, voting rules were changed illegally in many districts but asking for investigation into that means a criminal lawsuit must be filed, right Fani? 3 hours of an unarmed demonstration that saw more people allowed into the building than the number of those who forced their way in is not an insurrection. A crowd of a few thousand with over 200 FBI assets instigating the worst behaviors is not an insurrection, it's a set up. If you left the Republican Party after Jan 6th you're the exact weak minded target of the people who orchestrated the democrat's Reichstag Fire.
Further? Who said anything about further? Is there more??? What else has he done?

I would be satisfied with him answering his current charges. Him winning or getting them dismissed because they are baseless would go a long way in making more people comfortable voting for him.
Only the people with very little knowledge would be swayed by any further developments. As it stands, the triple digit IQ crowd sees the disparity in treatment, the weaponizing of the justice system and remembers the lack of credibility of the source of all these accusations.
Yet, the Court Cases go forward. The Supreme Court has treated them as real cases. The Judges have not dismissed, some of the Judges are Trump appointees. If there is no basis in fact, as you state, surely the Conservative Supreme Court would have jumped at the chance to stop this. Doesn't seem to be happening.
So you're under the impression that the Supreme Court swoops into active trials to put a stop to an obviously biased and unjust court case? That explains a LOT.
Supreme Court responds to quick ruling request for Trump immunity | AP News

U.S. Supreme Court formally ends Trump's fight over Capitol attack records | Reuters

Supreme Court officially ends Trump's recent legal fight to block document turnover to January 6 probe | CNN Politics

Supreme Court rejects appeals to review sanctions against Trump-allied lawyers over 2020 election case | PBS NewsHour

Supreme Court allows sanctions against Trump-allied lawyers over 2020 election lawsuit (msn.com)

U.S. Supreme Court formally ends Trump's fight over Capitol attack records | Reuters

Supreme Court agrees to hear Jan. 6 case that could affect Trump prosecution (nbcnews.com)

Supreme Court Case That Could Upend Trump Trial Gets New Date (msn.com)

Here's the GA Suprem Court getting into the game: Georgia Supreme Court dismisses Trump bid to shut down Fulton County probe | CNN Politics

Should I keep posting them? Swoop down? It's called rulings. SCOUS has been involved.
Wangchung
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FLBear5630 said:

Wangchung said:

FLBear5630 said:

Wangchung said:

FLBear5630 said:

Wangchung said:

FLBear5630 said:

Wangchung said:

Porteroso said:

Wangchung said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

All of you deep down know that if Trump won in 2020 and Dems did the same thing as MAGA on Jan 6, the media and most of DC would be applauding them for exercising their right to protest.

YOU KNOW THIS FOR A FACT.
That's probably true, but it's not the real issue. The question is whether any Democratic candidate would or could have convinced them to do it.

You can't begin to analyze it until you recognize that Trump duped his supporters in an unprecedented way.

B.S. If anybody was duped it was the people that bought the whole dimcrat/BLM Saint George Floyd farce.

It always goes back to black people with you zealots. Why is that?

It always goes back to Trump living rent free in the heads of you marxists. Why is that?

Oh buddy, but it doesn't. I am perfectly happy forgetting about him, except that he is probably the Republican candidate again.

Are you able to answer my question? Why you deflect towards black people when your side is pressed?

First of all I resent and am offended by what you are implying with your falsely premised question. I realize you have likely been indoctrinated to believe that believers in conservative principles are all racists that want to return to the Jim Crow days of the 1950's. The truth is that unlike the left, conservatives actually believe in MLK's dream of a country where everyone (and everyone means everyone) is judged on the content of their character as opposed to the color of their skin - and it doesn't just go one way.

Here's the difference. Because also unlike your side conservatives don't believe the lie that America is an inherently racist country dominated by white supremacist oppressors hell bent on screwing over the black community, we don't believe black people or any other race or group should constantly be given an automatic pass on virtually any kind of behavior simply because of their race or ethnicity. I along with other conservatives couldn't care less about George Floyd's race, and like a good little lefty it's actually you who is playing the race card here. I do care that innocent people were murdered and millions of $$ in damages needlessly occurred (much of it impacting minority citizens by the way) in the summer of 2020 because of the actions of hordes of leftist rent a mob thugs who have never been held accountable in any material way. And it was all because of a ginned up farce manufactured for political reasons - which was what the whole St. George Floyd fiasco was - and his race or the race of the majority of the people doing the rioting and looting has nothing to do with it.

https://www.thefallofminneapolis.com/

By contrast, ironically, what happened on January 6 actually was a "mostly peaceful protest" where a small minority of people did some bad things and deserve to be punished for it. But it is beyond laughable to call that an insurrection, again, unlike what happened in the summer of 2020.


You still aren't answering the question. Why is it that you people predictably bring up blacks when faced with Jan 6 scrutiny? That is the question, so either try an answer or don't.

Try reading the post again - perhaps more slowly this time - as I absolutely answered the question. It's not about "predictably bringing up blacks" and that's a false premise. On the other hand, it IS about not excluding or giving a pass to guilty people simply because of their race as you racist lefties would have it.
Leftists hide behind race when protecting the brown shirt wing of the democrat party. Same way they protected Obama from any and all criticism. We heard, "You only say that because he's black!!!" ad nauseam.

In this case it is righties hiding behind the actions of blm, every time Jan 6 is brought up. But of course it is not the only case.
That's like whining about bringing up a different president when making statements about the current president, right? 8 months of riots, looting and murders but because the funding for the rioting was done under the auspices of black lives mattering we cant criticize the result...or we are RaCiSt! Hilarious. 8 months of riots and flaunting of Covid restrictions while the rest of America lost jobs, homes and more because they didn't get a free "Im a victim" pass to go out and burn down their cities and then pretend a 3 hour unarmed demonstration at the capital was an insurrection when Republicans watch the same democrats who cheered on the deadly riots turn around and change voting rules due to the same disease they ignored while cheering and justifying the blm rioting. But you go on gaslighting about Trump, it sure tracks with the same busllhit narrative democrats have been pushing since 2015.
Time out, if there was simply a demonstration at Congress after Trump's speech nothing get's said. Maybe "sore loser" or not showing "dignity of the office". End of story.

But, that is not what happened. The demonstrators he told to go to Congress AND DEMONSTRATE PEACEFULLY A D PATRIOTICALLY stormed Congress and Congress had to be evacuated. There was violence, SOME forced entry AND SOME GRANTED ACCESS and A FRACTION OF THE destruction of property THE DEMOCRATS HAD CAUSED IN THEIR 8 MONTHS OF PEACEFUL PROTESTING. So, to say nothing happened and Trump had nothing to do with it is not accurate or true. This was life on TV, most of America watched. Saying that it was fabricated or made worse after the fact doesn't wash, I don't know one person, MAGA or not, that watched that and said this is good. Most MAGA I know said "I'm out, this is too far".

I didn't agree with the format of the Jan 6th Commission, I thought there should have been cross-examination a defense. But the Jan 6th Commission had to happen after the mess that happened. Trump needs to answer questions under oath about what he knew. He was the one on the stage.


Ah yes, we MUST investigate Trump further! Yes, voting rules were changed illegally in many districts but asking for investigation into that means a criminal lawsuit must be filed, right Fani? 3 hours of an unarmed demonstration that saw more people allowed into the building than the number of those who forced their way in is not an insurrection. A crowd of a few thousand with over 200 FBI assets instigating the worst behaviors is not an insurrection, it's a set up. If you left the Republican Party after Jan 6th you're the exact weak minded target of the people who orchestrated the democrat's Reichstag Fire.
Further? Who said anything about further? Is there more??? What else has he done?

I would be satisfied with him answering his current charges. Him winning or getting them dismissed because they are baseless would go a long way in making more people comfortable voting for him.
Only the people with very little knowledge would be swayed by any further developments. As it stands, the triple digit IQ crowd sees the disparity in treatment, the weaponizing of the justice system and remembers the lack of credibility of the source of all these accusations.
Yet, the Court Cases go forward. The Supreme Court has treated them as real cases. The Judges have not dismissed, some of the Judges are Trump appointees. If there is no basis in fact, as you state, surely the Conservative Supreme Court would have jumped at the chance to stop this. Doesn't seem to be happening.
So you're under the impression that the Supreme Court swoops into active trials to put a stop to an obviously biased and unjust court case? That explains a LOT.
Supreme Court responds to quick ruling request for Trump immunity | AP News

U.S. Supreme Court formally ends Trump's fight over Capitol attack records | Reuters

Supreme Court officially ends Trump's recent legal fight to block document turnover to January 6 probe | CNN Politics

Supreme Court rejects appeals to review sanctions against Trump-allied lawyers over 2020 election case | PBS NewsHour

Supreme Court allows sanctions against Trump-allied lawyers over 2020 election lawsuit (msn.com)

U.S. Supreme Court formally ends Trump's fight over Capitol attack records | Reuters

Supreme Court agrees to hear Jan. 6 case that could affect Trump prosecution (nbcnews.com)

Supreme Court Case That Could Upend Trump Trial Gets New Date (msn.com)

Here's the GA Suprem Court getting into the game: Georgia Supreme Court dismisses Trump bid to shut down Fulton County probe | CNN Politics

Should I keep posting them? Swoop down? It's called rulings. SCOUS has been involved.
So you think these process requests that were rejected for consideration by the SCOTUS are the same as the supreme court ruling on the the cases themselves? Wow.
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Sam Lowry said:

FLBear5630 said:

Wangchung said:

Porteroso said:

Wangchung said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Porteroso said:

Johnny Bear said:

Sam Lowry said:

Doc Holliday said:

All of you deep down know that if Trump won in 2020 and Dems did the same thing as MAGA on Jan 6, the media and most of DC would be applauding them for exercising their right to protest.

YOU KNOW THIS FOR A FACT.
That's probably true, but it's not the real issue. The question is whether any Democratic candidate would or could have convinced them to do it.

You can't begin to analyze it until you recognize that Trump duped his supporters in an unprecedented way.

B.S. If anybody was duped it was the people that bought the whole dimcrat/BLM Saint George Floyd farce.

It always goes back to black people with you zealots. Why is that?

It always goes back to Trump living rent free in the heads of you marxists. Why is that?

Oh buddy, but it doesn't. I am perfectly happy forgetting about him, except that he is probably the Republican candidate again.

Are you able to answer my question? Why you deflect towards black people when your side is pressed?

First of all I resent and am offended by what you are implying with your falsely premised question. I realize you have likely been indoctrinated to believe that believers in conservative principles are all racists that want to return to the Jim Crow days of the 1950's. The truth is that unlike the left, conservatives actually believe in MLK's dream of a country where everyone (and everyone means everyone) is judged on the content of their character as opposed to the color of their skin - and it doesn't just go one way.

Here's the difference. Because also unlike your side conservatives don't believe the lie that America is an inherently racist country dominated by white supremacist oppressors hell bent on screwing over the black community, we don't believe black people or any other race or group should constantly be given an automatic pass on virtually any kind of behavior simply because of their race or ethnicity. I along with other conservatives couldn't care less about George Floyd's race, and like a good little lefty it's actually you who is playing the race card here. I do care that innocent people were murdered and millions of $$ in damages needlessly occurred (much of it impacting minority citizens by the way) in the summer of 2020 because of the actions of hordes of leftist rent a mob thugs who have never been held accountable in any material way. And it was all because of a ginned up farce manufactured for political reasons - which was what the whole St. George Floyd fiasco was - and his race or the race of the majority of the people doing the rioting and looting has nothing to do with it.

https://www.thefallofminneapolis.com/

By contrast, ironically, what happened on January 6 actually was a "mostly peaceful protest" where a small minority of people did some bad things and deserve to be punished for it. But it is beyond laughable to call that an insurrection, again, unlike what happened in the summer of 2020.


You still aren't answering the question. Why is it that you people predictably bring up blacks when faced with Jan 6 scrutiny? That is the question, so either try an answer or don't.

Try reading the post again - perhaps more slowly this time - as I absolutely answered the question. It's not about "predictably bringing up blacks" and that's a false premise. On the other hand, it IS about not excluding or giving a pass to guilty people simply because of their race as you racist lefties would have it.
Leftists hide behind race when protecting the brown shirt wing of the democrat party. Same way they protected Obama from any and all criticism. We heard, "You only say that because he's black!!!" ad nauseam.

In this case it is righties hiding behind the actions of blm, every time Jan 6 is brought up. But of course it is not the only case.
That's like whining about bringing up a different president when making statements about the current president, right? 8 months of riots, looting and murders but because the funding for the rioting was done under the auspices of black lives mattering we cant criticize the result...or we are RaCiSt! Hilarious. 8 months of riots and flaunting of Covid restrictions while the rest of America lost jobs, homes and more because they didn't get a free "Im a victim" pass to go out and burn down their cities and then pretend a 3 hour unarmed demonstration at the capital was an insurrection when Republicans watch the same democrats who cheered on the deadly riots turn around and change voting rules due to the same disease they ignored while cheering and justifying the blm rioting. But you go on gaslighting about Trump, it sure tracks with the same busllhit narrative democrats have been pushing since 2015.
Time out, if there was simply a demonstration at Congress after Trump's speech nothing get's said. Maybe "sore loser" or not showing "dignity of the office". End of story.

But, that is not what happened. The demonstrators he told to go to Congress stormed Congress and Congress had to be evacuated. There was violence, forced entry and destruction of property. So, to say nothing happened and Trump had nothing to do with it is not accurate or true. This was life on TV, most of America watched. Saying that it was fabricated or made worse after the fact doesn't wash, I don't know one person, MAGA or not, that watched that and said this is good. Most MAGA I know said "I'm out, this is too far".

I didn't agree with the format of the Jan 6th Commission, I thought there should have been cross-examination a defense. But the Jan 6th Commission had to happen after the mess that happened. Trump needs to answer questions under oath about what he knew. He was the one on the stage.


An honest Republican...welcome to the club! We're planning a party in D.C. when we get our tenth member, so keep your calendar open. I'm guessing some time during Trump's third term.
Dang! Three terms. Just like Obama.
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