NBC and Dissenting Conservative Voices

1,851 Views | 32 Replies | Last: 28 days ago by J.R.
Mothra
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
7:30a, 3/28/24
Hadn't seen a post about the firing of Ronna McDaniel, after the NBC natives staged a mutiny. It's incredible to me that NBC has hyper Democrat partisans and leftists that have shows, like Al Sharpton, former Biden Press Sec. Jen Psaki, Joy Reid, and Rachel Maddow, but the former head of the RNC, by all accounts a moderate and niece of Mitt Romney, serving as a commentator on a political panel is a bridge too far.

Incredible.

Reply Quote
10
Johnny Bear
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
7:56a, 3/28/24
The MSM is and has been for a long time little more than the fully committed propaganda arm of the left and the democrat party. This Pravda like action is just further proof of that fact. They aren't just "biased" - they're a vital part of the democrat machine. They clearly can't stand or handle divergent viewpoints and therefore must do all they can to not permit those opinions and belief systems to see the light of day on their platforms - despite the fact that half the country agrees with what they're refusing to even give a minor voice to.
Reply Quote
10
1 edit
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Mothra • 7:56a, 3/28/24
Mothra said:
Hadn't seen a post about the firing of Ronna McDaniel, after the NBC natives staged a mutiny. It's incredible to me that NBC has hyper Democrat partisans and leftists that have shows, like Al Sharpton, former Biden Press Sec. Jen Psaki, Joy Reid, and Rachel Maddow, but the former head of the RNC, by all accounts a moderate and niece of Mitt Romney, serving as a commentator on a political panel is a bridge too far.

Incredible.

Hostile work environment before she even started her first day. Can't say I'm surprised. The party of diversity and tolerance continues to reveal who they really are.
"Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up!"

-- Barack Obama
Reply Quote
9
william
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
8:10a, 3/28/24
no worries - she'll get paid - handsomely.

and the clown show of the Liberal Media just further isolated / exposed itself.

and she wasn't exactly a Trumpista.

- KKM

Go Bears!
Reply Quote
5
HuMcK
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
8:25a, 3/28/24
We'll see how this post ages if Ronna gets criminally charged for the fake electors schemes in Arizona and Michigan. She's on a recording offering to provide legal services from the RNC if electors went along with Trump's corrupt scheme to steal the 2020 election after the fact (i.e. offering a bribe to engage in illegal acts).

I don't know what it's gonna take to sink in for y'all: people like Ronna aren't being shunned for their conservative beliefs, they are facing scrutiny for their criminal behavior.

I'm all for keeping a bench of dissenting voices to encourage debate, but we've reached a point in the Trump era where one side is simply at war with objective reality, and the debates are no longer about issues anymore. Frankly, conservatives are not victims just because rational people are tired of indulging their dangerous and bad faith delusions.
Reply Quote
6
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to HuMcK • 8:31a, 3/28/24
HuMcK said:


I don't know what it's gonna take to sink in for y'all: people like Ronna aren't being shunned for their conservative beliefs, they are facing scrutiny for their criminal behavior.

Being Conservative is not a crime.
"Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up!"

-- Barack Obama
Reply Quote
5
HuMcK
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to RD2WINAGNBEAR86 • 8:48a, 3/28/24
RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
HuMcK said:


I don't know what it's gonna take to sink in for y'all: people like Ronna aren't being shunned for their conservative beliefs, they are facing scrutiny for their criminal behavior.

Being Conservative is not a crime.

Agreed. But a lot of Trump's behavior, which he involves accomplices (willingly or not) in, is criminal. The fake electors schemes is a prime example.
Reply Quote
6
Mothra
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to HuMcK • 9:15a, 3/28/24
HuMcK said:
We'll see how this post ages if Ronna gets criminally charged for the fake electors schemes in Arizona and Michigan. She's on a recording offering to provide legal services from the RNC if electors went along with Trump's corrupt scheme to steal the 2020 election after the fact (i.e. offering a bribe to engage in illegal acts).

I don't know what it's gonna take to sink in for y'all: people like Ronna aren't being shunned for their conservative beliefs, they are facing scrutiny for their criminal behavior.

I'm all for keeping a bench of dissenting voices to encourage debate, but we've reached a point in the Trump era where one side is simply at war with objective reality, and the debates are no longer about issues anymore. Frankly, conservatives are not victims just because rational people are tired of indulging their dangerous and bad faith delusions.
I am glad you brought up "objective reality." Let's talk about objective reality for a moment.

NBC has no problem giving a voice to Al Sharpton, a race-baiter and hyperpartisan who literally helped start the Crown Heights race riot with his avid anti-Semitic comments back in the 1990s. Sharpton, in addition to being a convicted felon, is a well-known anti-Semite who has repeatedly blamed the Jews for the world's ills the last 30 plus years.

It has no problem giving a nightly show to Maddow, who in 2016 and continuing for a 3 year period was the number one purveyor of the debunked Russian collusion conspiracy theory, claiming that Russia and Donald Trump had "stolen" the 2016 election (sound familiar?). Every single show was devoted to the conspiracy, with Maddow going so far as to claim members of the Trump cabinet were "friends" of Putin and having secret meetings and rendezvous with his operatives in the lead up to the election.

It has no problem giving a nightly show to Reid, a well-known homophobe with numerous well-documented homophobic comments in her past, numerous racist and anti-Semitic statements, and a 9/11 conspiracy theorist.

It has no problem employing Lawrence O'Donnell, an avowed socialist, who was likewise a well-known purveyor of the 2016 Russian collusion and stolen election conspiracy theory - a guy who falsely claimed Trump was receiving money from Russian oligarchs. A guy who accused Michael Steele of being an Uncle Tom, and has made numerous other racist and anti-religious statements over the years.

Yet, despite this "objective reality," NBC has had no issue giving these Democrat operatives their own show - a voice each day to spout their conspiracy theories and Democrat talking points. Yet it's a bridge too far to allow McDaniel to sit on a panel?

LOL. Sure thing, HuMck.
Reply Quote
15
3 edits
HuMcK
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Mothra • 10:37a, 3/28/24
You've basically just listed off a bunch of opinions you don't like. None of them compare to what Trump/McDaniel(-Romney...lol) did surrounding the 2020 election. Sorry, but no amount of whining or wishful thinking will make it so. Ronna getting let go had nothing to do with her ideology (in fact that's why they hired her in the first place), it has everything to do with her actions.

Also, not for nothing, but the part about "going so far as to claim members of the Trump cabinet were 'friends' of Putin and having secret meetings and rendezvous with his operatives in the lead up to the election" turned out to be objectively true. Maybe not cabinet members (although Wilbur Ross was president of a Russian money laundering bank, and Rex Tillerson loterally had a medal pinned on his chest by Putin himself...), but Trump's son and campaign manager absolutely got caught having secret meetings with Russian intelligence agents for the purpose of using Russian assistance against Hillary. That's part of the objective reality you people still refuse to accept.

Ronna has better than even odds of being hit with felony charges for what she did, and you think she somehow deserves a diversity-hire position at MSNBC? Honestly that attitude is what's wrong with your party right now, and it's why people are shunning them more and more.

Food for thought: who is the liberal analogue in conservative media? Does Fox/OAN/NewsMax have any actual opposing party officials on their bench? If not, why the selective outrage directed at MSNBC?
Reply Quote
4
Johnny Bear
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to HuMcK • 10:57a, 3/28/24
HuMcK said:
Food for thought: who is the liberal analogue in conservative media? Does Fox/OAN/NewsMax have any actual opposing party officials on their bench? If not, why the selective outrage directed at MSNBC?

Jessica Tarlov and Juan Williams, both dimcrat lefties, make frequent appearances on Fox News. Not that long ago Clinton lackey Donna Brazile was a contributor and of course the late Alan Colmes was a prime time fixture on Fox for many years prior to his death. All of them have peacefully coexisted on that network with no internal "mass rebellions" because unlike the lefties you support, conservatives are fine with and supportive of open debates and aren't so terrified of and so threatened by opposing viewpoints that they literally refuse to allow even a minor voice to those that disagree.
Reply Quote
9
Mothra
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to HuMcK • 11:28a, 3/28/24
HuMcK said:
You've basically just listed off a bunch of opinions you don't like. None of them compare to what Trump/McDaniel(-Romney...lol) did surrounding the 2020 election. Sorry, but no amount of whining or wishful thinking will make it so. Ronna getting let go had nothing to do with her ideology (in fact that's why they hired her in the first place), it has everything to do with her actions.

Also, not for nothing, but the part about "going so far as to claim members of the Trump cabinet were 'friends' of Putin and having secret meetings and rendezvous with his operatives in the lead up to the election" turned out to be objectively true. Maybe not cabinet members (although Wilbur Ross was president of a Russian money laundering bank, and Rex Tillerson loterally had a medal pinned on his chest by Putin himself...), but Trump's son and campaign manager absolutely got caught having secret meetings with Russian intelligence agents for the purpose of using Russian assistance against Hillary. That's part of the objective reality you people still refuse to accept.

Ronna has better than even odds of being hit with felony charges for what she did, and you think she somehow deserves a diversity-hire position at MSNBC? Honestly that attitude is what's wrong with your party right now, and it's why people are shunning them more and more.

Food for thought: who is the liberal analogue in conservative media? Does Fox/OAN/NewsMax have any actual opposing party officials on their bench? If not, why the selective outrage directed at MSNBC?
I appreciate your attempt to spin distinctions between the two groups, but when Ronna's alleged bad acts amounted to a questionable phone call when you have partisan mouthpieces of your party pushing election conspiracies that have been completely debunked, I'd say the order of magnitude here ways heavily in favor of the partisan hacks on NBC - which for years spouted these lies.

I also appreciate the attempt to compare other networks, but let's be honest - the only apples to apples comparison is Fox, and even then, it's not really the legacy media that a company like NBC is. And although I am no fan of or defender of Fox, I would venture to guess its hosts wouldn't collectively be up in arms and cause a mutiny for the mere hire of a former Democrat operative. Hell, Donna Brazile, the former DNC chair, worked their for years. Did we see Fox hosts throwing hissy fits as a result? Did we see an outcry, and the weeping and gnashing of teeth that we saw from every liberal shill on NBC? Of course we didn't, because conservatives are far more tolerant of divergent opinions.

Let's see in a few months how many registered voters end up shunning the Republicans in favor of the current disaster-in-chief. You might have some crow to be eating.
Reply Quote
3
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Johnny Bear • 11:51a, 3/28/24
Johnny Bear said:
HuMcK said:
Food for thought: who is the liberal analogue in conservative media? Does Fox/OAN/NewsMax have any actual opposing party officials on their bench? If not, why the selective outrage directed at MSNBC?

Jessica Tarlov and Juan Williams, both dimcrat lefties, make frequent appearances on Fox News. Not that long ago Clinton lackey Donna Brazile was a contributor and of course the late Alan Colmes was a prime time fixture on Fox for many years prior to his death. All of them have peacefully coexisted on that network with no internal "mass rebellions" because unlike the lefties you support, conservatives are fine with and supportive of open debates and aren't so terrified of and so threatened by opposing viewpoints that they literally refuse to allow even a minor voice to those that disagree.
I really like Fox News guest host Harold Ford. He is very sharp and calls out silliness from the Dems when necessary. Very level headed. Leans a little left of center. He is a Democrat that I could seriously consider voting for President. I am sure the militant Muslim members of Congress wish he would be beheaded.
"Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up!"

-- Barack Obama
Reply Quote
3
HuMcK
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Mothra • 12:56p, 3/28/24
"Let's see in a few months how many registered voters end up shunning the Republicans in favor of the current disaster-in-chief. You might have some crow to be eating."

Dems have been noticeably overperforming in special elections for a while now, and they just won an R+6 seat in Alabama by 28%. Political predictions are usually a fool's errand, so maybe it's prudent to refrain from showing so much bravado until it's earned, especially with Trump as your standard-bearer.
Reply Quote
3
Wangchung
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to HuMcK • 1:12p, 3/28/24
HuMcK said:
"Let's see in a few months how many registered voters end up shunning the Republicans in favor of the current disaster-in-chief. You might have some crow to be eating."

Dems have been noticeably overperforming in special elections for a while now, and they just won an R+6 seat in Alabama by 28%. Political predictions are usually a fool's errand, so maybe it's prudent to refrain from showing so much bravado until it's earned, especially with Trump as your standard-bearer.
Didn't realize Biden was running in those special elections...
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?
Reply Quote
2
Johnny Bear
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to RD2WINAGNBEAR86 • 1:12p, 3/28/24
RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Johnny Bear said:
HuMcK said:
Food for thought: who is the liberal analogue in conservative media? Does Fox/OAN/NewsMax have any actual opposing party officials on their bench? If not, why the selective outrage directed at MSNBC?

Jessica Tarlov and Juan Williams, both dimcrat lefties, make frequent appearances on Fox News. Not that long ago Clinton lackey Donna Brazile was a contributor and of course the late Alan Colmes was a prime time fixture on Fox for many years prior to his death. All of them have peacefully coexisted on that network with no internal "mass rebellions" because unlike the lefties you support, conservatives are fine with and supportive of open debates and aren't so terrified of and so threatened by opposing viewpoints that they literally refuse to allow even a minor voice to those that disagree.
I really like Fox News guest host Harold Ford. He is very sharp and calls out silliness from the Dems when necessary. Very level headed. Leans a little left of center. He is a Democrat that I could seriously consider voting for President. I am sure the militant Muslim members of Congress wish he would be beheaded.

Another good example of a democrat regular on Fox News. I would never vote for him for POTUS, but I agree he's thoughtful, intelligent, respectful, and not completely out of his mind extreme and radical - which makes him a rare democrat of any noteworthiness in today's world. If he was still directly active politically with that party I'm sure he wouldn't stand an ice cube's chance in hell of having any success.
Reply Quote
4
2 edits
Mothra
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to HuMcK • 1:34p, 3/28/24
HuMcK said:
"Let's see in a few months how many registered voters end up shunning the Republicans in favor of the current disaster-in-chief. You might have some crow to be eating."

Dems have been noticeably overperforming in special elections for a while now, and they just won an R+6 seat in Alabama by 28%. Political predictions are usually a fool's errand, so maybe it's prudent to refrain from showing so much bravado until it's earned, especially with Trump as your standard-bearer.
Bravado? To the contrary, I've said repeatedly I think Trump will lose, and that if it was any other candidate, we would be beating Biden handily. The reason it's so close is BECAUSE it's Trump.

And yet, Trump is now leading the disaster-in-chief in most every major poll, and in particular, in most of the battleground states.

I think it's you that needs to refrain from the bravado, my friend.
Reply Quote
4
1 edit
Guy Noir
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Mothra • 10:38a, 3/29/24
Mothra said:
Hadn't seen a post about the firing of Ronna McDaniel, after the NBC natives staged a mutiny. It's incredible to me that NBC has hyper Democrat partisans and leftists that have shows, like Al Sharpton, former Biden Press Sec. Jen Psaki, Joy Reid, and Rachel Maddow, but the former head of the RNC, by all accounts a moderate and niece of Mitt Romney, serving as a commentator on a political panel is a bridge too far.

Incredible.

I am surprised too. There is very little effort to present objective and balanced viewpoints. I am guessing that the tremendous dislike for Trump washes over everything Republican, making the bias very strong for the Democrats.



Reply Quote
1 edit
LIB,MR BEARS
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to RD2WINAGNBEAR86 • 12:43p, 3/29/24
RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
HuMcK said:


I don't know what it's gonna take to sink in for y'all: people like Ronna aren't being shunned for their conservative beliefs, they are facing scrutiny for their criminal behavior.

Being Conservative is not a crime.
Not yet
Reply Quote
3
Forest Bueller_bf
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Johnny Bear • 3:42p, 3/29/24
Johnny Bear said:
RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Johnny Bear said:
HuMcK said:
Food for thought: who is the liberal analogue in conservative media? Does Fox/OAN/NewsMax have any actual opposing party officials on their bench? If not, why the selective outrage directed at MSNBC?

Jessica Tarlov and Juan Williams, both dimcrat lefties, make frequent appearances on Fox News. Not that long ago Clinton lackey Donna Brazile was a contributor and of course the late Alan Colmes was a prime time fixture on Fox for many years prior to his death. All of them have peacefully coexisted on that network with no internal "mass rebellions" because unlike the lefties you support, conservatives are fine with and supportive of open debates and aren't so terrified of and so threatened by opposing viewpoints that they literally refuse to allow even a minor voice to those that disagree.
I really like Fox News guest host Harold Ford. He is very sharp and calls out silliness from the Dems when necessary. Very level headed. Leans a little left of center. He is a Democrat that I could seriously consider voting for President. I am sure the militant Muslim members of Congress wish he would be beheaded.

Another good example of a democrat regular on Fox News. I would never vote for him for POTUS, but I agree he's thoughtful, intelligent, respectful, and not completely out of his mind extreme and radical - which makes him a rare democrat of any noteworthiness in today's world. If he was still directly active politically with that party I'm sure he wouldn't stand an ice cube's chance in hell of having any success.
Harold Ford brings common sense to the left side of the equation on Fox.
Reply Quote
BusyTarpDuster2017
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to HuMcK • 9:19a, 3/30/24
HuMcK said:
...

I'm all for keeping a bench of dissenting voices to encourage debate, but we've reached a point in the Trump era where one side is simply at war with objective reality, and the debates are no longer about issues anymore. Frankly, conservatives are not victims just because rational people are tired of indulging their dangerous and bad faith delusions.
Republicans "at war with objective reality" and having "dangerous delusions"??? Are you kidding??

Do any of you have the slightest bit of self awareness when it comes to all the degenerate insanity that you promote? Where exactly is your hold on "objective reality" when you believe that having a ***** can mean you're a woman, that children should be exposed to the trans madness and be allowed to permanently disfigure themselves, that criminals shouldn't be punished but rather immediately released back into the public, and that allowing an influx of millions and millions of unvetted migrants is a good idea? How can these be described as anything other than "dangerous bad faith delusions" defined to a tee?

Simply unbelievable beyond words.
Reply Quote
7
KaiBear
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to BusyTarpDuster2017 • 5:33p, 3/30/24
BusyTarpDuster2017 said:
HuMcK said:
...

I'm all for keeping a bench of dissenting voices to encourage debate, but we've reached a point in the Trump era where one side is simply at war with objective reality, and the debates are no longer about issues anymore. Frankly, conservatives are not victims just because rational people are tired of indulging their dangerous and bad faith delusions.
Republicans "at war with objective reality" and having "dangerous delusions"??? Are you kidding??

Do any of you have the slightest bit of self awareness when it comes to all the degenerate insanity that you promote? Where exactly is your hold on "objective reality" when you believe that having a ***** can mean you're a woman, that children should be exposed to the trans madness and be allowed to permanently disfigure themselves, that criminals shouldn't be punished but rather immediately released back into the public, and that allowing an influx of millions and millions of unvetted migrants is a good idea? How can these be described as anything other than "dangerous bad faith delusions" defined to a tee?

Simply unbelievable beyond words.



Only 3 types of individuals spouting Humck's kind of insanity

1. Hyper partisans who identify solely with the success or failure of the Democratic Party . To the exclusion of what's good for the country or the people in general.
2. Those who feel smugly insulated from these obviously destructive politics of the current administration.
3. Those that hate the traditional culture of the United States and are willing to endure any negative consequences to see it replaced


Reply Quote
4
1 edit
Harrison Bergeron
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to HuMcK • 12:36p, 4/1/24
HuMcK said:
We'll see how this post ages if Ronna gets criminally charged for the fake electors schemes in Arizona and Michigan. She's on a recording offering to provide legal services from the RNC if electors went along with Trump's corrupt scheme to steal the 2020 election after the fact (i.e. offering a bribe to engage in illegal acts).

I don't know what it's gonna take to sink in for y'all: people like Ronna aren't being shunned for their conservative beliefs, they are facing scrutiny for their criminal behavior.

I'm all for keeping a bench of dissenting voices to encourage debate, but we've reached a point in the Trump era where one side is simply at war with objective reality, and the debates are no longer about issues anymore. Frankly, conservatives are not victims just because rational people are tired of indulging their dangerous and bad faith delusions.
What you guys seem to not fully digest is what people object to is the double standard. MSNBC parroted the Russia Hoax and supported faithless electors in 2016 in addition to the myriad fake news and intentional disinformation touted by the network. How many times was Stacey Abrams not only on MSNBC but also celebrated. Just because the authoritarian Left launched novel lawfare against Donald Trump does not take away from the fact that MSNBC has parroted more fake news - around elections and otherwise - than any "media" outlet outside maybe the National Inquirer.
Reply Quote
2
J.R.
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Johnny Bear • 3:08p, 4/1/24
Johnny Bear said:
HuMcK said:
Food for thought: who is the liberal analogue in conservative media? Does Fox/OAN/NewsMax have any actual opposing party officials on their bench? If not, why the selective outrage directed at MSNBC?

Jessica Tarlov and Juan Williams, both dimcrat lefties, make frequent appearances on Fox News. Not that long ago Clinton lackey Donna Brazile was a contributor and of course the late Alan Colmes was a prime time fixture on Fox for many years prior to his death. All of them have peacefully coexisted on that network with no internal "mass rebellions" because unlike the lefties you support, conservatives are fine with and supportive of open debates and aren't so terrified of and so threatened by opposing viewpoints that they literally refuse to allow even a minor voice to those that disagree.

good take!
Reply Quote
Sam Lowry
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to BusyTarpDuster2017 • 7:52p, 4/1/24
BusyTarpDuster2017 said:
HuMcK said:
...

I'm all for keeping a bench of dissenting voices to encourage debate, but we've reached a point in the Trump era where one side is simply at war with objective reality, and the debates are no longer about issues anymore. Frankly, conservatives are not victims just because rational people are tired of indulging their dangerous and bad faith delusions.
Republicans "at war with objective reality" and having "dangerous delusions"??? Are you kidding??

Do any of you have the slightest bit of self awareness when it comes to all the degenerate insanity that you promote? Where exactly is your hold on "objective reality" when you believe that having a ***** can mean you're a woman, that children should be exposed to the trans madness and be allowed to permanently disfigure themselves, that criminals shouldn't be punished but rather immediately released back into the public, and that allowing an influx of millions and millions of unvetted migrants is a good idea? How can these be described as anything other than "dangerous bad faith delusions" defined to a tee?

Simply unbelievable beyond words.
The difference is that the left's conclusions about LGBT issues follow logically from their premises, incredibly misguided though they may be. If you believe that gender is purely a social construct, sex is a merely a recreational activity, society has no interest in upholding traditional gender roles in any form, and the expression of prejudice could spill over into violence at any moment, hate crime laws make a certain kind of sense.

In contrast, the claims of 2020 election truthers make no sense at all, even on their own terms. Just because you saw Biden's vote tally increase during the night as more absentee ballots were counted, it does not follow that the election was stolen. That's not a difference in values or opinion. That's just stupid. So it's less a war against reality than a war against logic.
Reply Quote
1
Harrison Bergeron
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Sam Lowry • 8:11p, 4/1/24
Sam Lowry said:
BusyTarpDuster2017 said:
HuMcK said:
...

I'm all for keeping a bench of dissenting voices to encourage debate, but we've reached a point in the Trump era where one side is simply at war with objective reality, and the debates are no longer about issues anymore. Frankly, conservatives are not victims just because rational people are tired of indulging their dangerous and bad faith delusions.
Republicans "at war with objective reality" and having "dangerous delusions"??? Are you kidding??

Do any of you have the slightest bit of self awareness when it comes to all the degenerate insanity that you promote? Where exactly is your hold on "objective reality" when you believe that having a ***** can mean you're a woman, that children should be exposed to the trans madness and be allowed to permanently disfigure themselves, that criminals shouldn't be punished but rather immediately released back into the public, and that allowing an influx of millions and millions of unvetted migrants is a good idea? How can these be described as anything other than "dangerous bad faith delusions" defined to a tee?

Simply unbelievable beyond words.
The difference is that the left's conclusions about LGBT issues follow logically from their premises, incredibly misguided though they may be. If you believe that gender is purely a social construct, sex is a merely a recreational activity, society has no interest in upholding traditional gender roles in any form, and the expression of prejudice could spill over into violence at any moment, hate crime laws make a certain kind of sense.

In contrast, the claims of 2020 election truthers make no sense at all, even on their own terms. Just because you saw Biden's vote tally increase during the night as more absentee ballots were counted, it does not follow that the election was stolen. That's not a difference in values or opinion. That's just stupid. https://mentalhealth.bmj.com/content/ebmental/27/1/e300940.full.pdf
So how do you explain the $40M spend on the illogical Russian Hoax and the continued claim that Hillary Clinton won the 2016 election? So how do you explain the constant celebration and promotion of The Big Lie that Stacey Abrams won the Georgia governor election in 2018 and 2022? It really is a war against logic. It is just stupid.
Reply Quote
4
C. Jordan
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Mothra • 8:45p, 4/1/24
Mothra said:
Hadn't seen a post about the firing of Ronna McDaniel, after the NBC natives staged a mutiny. It's incredible to me that NBC has hyper Democrat partisans and leftists that have shows, like Al Sharpton, former Biden Press Sec. Jen Psaki, Joy Reid, and Rachel Maddow, but the former head of the RNC, by all accounts a moderate and niece of Mitt Romney, serving as a commentator on a political panel is a bridge too far.

Incredible.

There are conservatives on all those shows. Joe Scarborough, for example, is a conservative Republican.

The problem is that McDaniel is an election denier, therefore a denier of the truth.

Lying isn't conservative.

But lying about the 2020 election has become conservative orthodoxy.

Reply Quote
1
Harrison Bergeron
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to C. Jordan • 8:48p, 4/1/24
C. Jordan said:
Mothra said:
Hadn't seen a post about the firing of Ronna McDaniel, after the NBC natives staged a mutiny. It's incredible to me that NBC has hyper Democrat partisans and leftists that have shows, like Al Sharpton, former Biden Press Sec. Jen Psaki, Joy Reid, and Rachel Maddow, but the former head of the RNC, by all accounts a moderate and niece of Mitt Romney, serving as a commentator on a political panel is a bridge too far.

Incredible.

There are conservatives on all those shows. Joe Scarborough, for example, is a conservative Republican.

The problem is that McDaniel is an election denier, therefore a denier of the truth.

Lying isn't conservative.

But lying about the 2020 election has become conservative orthodoxy.

So yes or no question: "Should anyone who denies the results of a U.S. presidential election or support those who do be removed from the air?"
Reply Quote
3
BusyTarpDuster2017
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Sam Lowry • 9:11p, 4/1/24
Sam Lowry said:
BusyTarpDuster2017 said:
HuMcK said:
...

I'm all for keeping a bench of dissenting voices to encourage debate, but we've reached a point in the Trump era where one side is simply at war with objective reality, and the debates are no longer about issues anymore. Frankly, conservatives are not victims just because rational people are tired of indulging their dangerous and bad faith delusions.
Republicans "at war with objective reality" and having "dangerous delusions"??? Are you kidding??

Do any of you have the slightest bit of self awareness when it comes to all the degenerate insanity that you promote? Where exactly is your hold on "objective reality" when you believe that having a ***** can mean you're a woman, that children should be exposed to the trans madness and be allowed to permanently disfigure themselves, that criminals shouldn't be punished but rather immediately released back into the public, and that allowing an influx of millions and millions of unvetted migrants is a good idea? How can these be described as anything other than "dangerous bad faith delusions" defined to a tee?

Simply unbelievable beyond words.
The difference is that the left's conclusions about LGBT issues follow logically from their premises, incredibly misguided though they may be. If you believe that gender is purely a social construct, sex is a merely a recreational activity, society has no interest in upholding traditional gender roles in any form, and the expression of prejudice could spill over into violence at any moment, hate crime laws make a certain kind of sense.

In contrast, the claims of 2020 election truthers make no sense at all, even on their own terms. Just because you saw Biden's vote tally increase during the night as more absentee ballots were counted, it does not follow that the election was stolen. That's not a difference in values or opinion. That's just stupid. So it's less a war against reality than a war against logic.
There is absolutely no logic behind an XY person with a pen1s actually being a "woman". This involves a complete repudiation of objective reality.

On the other hand, seeing a 100,000 vote lead swing the other way overnight, out of the view of election monitors, in an unprecedented election that involved an inordinate amount of mail in votes, where people were dumping votes in drop boxes at 2am, for a political party that has lied and manipulated the system many times before to "get" Trump by any means possible, and where no forensic analysis of the mail in votes ever took place.....there is plenty of objective and logical reasons to question election integrity and thus the outcome.
Reply Quote
1
1 edit
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to C. Jordan • 9:15p, 4/1/24
C. Jordan said:
Mothra said:
Hadn't seen a post about the firing of Ronna McDaniel, after the NBC natives staged a mutiny. It's incredible to me that NBC has hyper Democrat partisans and leftists that have shows, like Al Sharpton, former Biden Press Sec. Jen Psaki, Joy Reid, and Rachel Maddow, but the former head of the RNC, by all accounts a moderate and niece of Mitt Romney, serving as a commentator on a political panel is a bridge too far.

Incredible.

There are conservatives on all those shows. Joe Scarborough, for example, is a conservative Republican.



AckAckAckAckAckAck!!!!!! I've got just one question for you. Are you on crack or meth?
"Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up!"

-- Barack Obama
Reply Quote
4
1 edit
Mothra
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to BusyTarpDuster2017 • 6:41a, 4/2/24
BusyTarpDuster2017 said:
HuMcK said:
...

I'm all for keeping a bench of dissenting voices to encourage debate, but we've reached a point in the Trump era where one side is simply at war with objective reality, and the debates are no longer about issues anymore. Frankly, conservatives are not victims just because rational people are tired of indulging their dangerous and bad faith delusions.
Republicans "at war with objective reality" and having "dangerous delusions"??? Are you kidding??

Do any of you have the slightest bit of self awareness when it comes to all the degenerate insanity that you promote? Where exactly is your hold on "objective reality" when you believe that having a ***** can mean you're a woman, that children should be exposed to the trans madness and be allowed to permanently disfigure themselves, that criminals shouldn't be punished but rather immediately released back into the public, and that allowing an influx of millions and millions of unvetted migrants is a good idea? How can these be described as anything other than "dangerous bad faith delusions" defined to a tee?

Simply unbelievable beyond words.
HuMck has an incredible lack of self awareness. Always has.
Reply Quote
1
Mothra
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to C. Jordan • 6:46a, 4/2/24
C. Jordan said:
Mothra said:
Hadn't seen a post about the firing of Ronna McDaniel, after the NBC natives staged a mutiny. It's incredible to me that NBC has hyper Democrat partisans and leftists that have shows, like Al Sharpton, former Biden Press Sec. Jen Psaki, Joy Reid, and Rachel Maddow, but the former head of the RNC, by all accounts a moderate and niece of Mitt Romney, serving as a commentator on a political panel is a bridge too far.

Incredible.

Joe Scarborough, for example, is a conservative Republican.
Sorry, I had to stop right here. This may be one of the most hilarious, albeit ludicrous statements ever made on this board. Joe hasn't been conservative for a very long time, and I am not just talking about his hatred of Trump. He's moved left on numerous issues.

That being said, Joe is exactly the kind of "conservative" that networks like NBC employ - those who were Republican years ago but have long since left the party and abandon their conservative beliefs. They are Republicans in name only. See Michael Steele.
Reply Quote
1
2 edits
Harrison Bergeron
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Harrison Bergeron • 10:18a, 4/2/24
Harrison Bergeron said:
C. Jordan said:
Mothra said:
Hadn't seen a post about the firing of Ronna McDaniel, after the NBC natives staged a mutiny. It's incredible to me that NBC has hyper Democrat partisans and leftists that have shows, like Al Sharpton, former Biden Press Sec. Jen Psaki, Joy Reid, and Rachel Maddow, but the former head of the RNC, by all accounts a moderate and niece of Mitt Romney, serving as a commentator on a political panel is a bridge too far.

Incredible.

There are conservatives on all those shows. Joe Scarborough, for example, is a conservative Republican.

The problem is that McDaniel is an election denier, therefore a denier of the truth.

Lying isn't conservative.

But lying about the 2020 election has become conservative orthodoxy.

So yes or no question: "Should anyone who denies the results of a U.S. presidential election or support those who do be removed from the air?"
So yes or no question: "Should anyone who denies the results of a U.S. presidential election or support those who do be removed from the air?"
Reply Quote
1
J.R.
User Profile
Private Message
Ignore User Stop Ignoring
How long do you want to ignore this user?
24 hours One week Permanently Cancel
In reply to Mothra • 1:20p, 4/4/24
Mothra said:
C. Jordan said:
Mothra said:
Hadn't seen a post about the firing of Ronna McDaniel, after the NBC natives staged a mutiny. It's incredible to me that NBC has hyper Democrat partisans and leftists that have shows, like Al Sharpton, former Biden Press Sec. Jen Psaki, Joy Reid, and Rachel Maddow, but the former head of the RNC, by all accounts a moderate and niece of Mitt Romney, serving as a commentator on a political panel is a bridge too far.

Incredible.

Joe Scarborough, for example, is a conservative Republican.
Sorry, I had to stop right here. This may be one of the most hilarious, albeit ludicrous statements ever made on this board. Joe hasn't been conservative for a very long time, and I am not just talking about his hatred of Trump. He's moved left on numerous issues.

That being said, Joe is exactly the kind of "conservative" that networks like NBC employ - those who were Republican years ago but have long since left the party and abandon their conservative beliefs. They are Republicans in name only. See Michael Steele.
Actually, Joe was a former Rep. Congressman, who, like me, have seen the Trumpification of the R party and we are now Independent. Wanted to reply to the early poster relative Ronna Mc. NBC/MSNB is mainly absurd. I give you, Rachel Maddox, Joy, Lawrence et al. Fox is NO different. I give you Hannity, Ingram, Judge idiot, Gutfeld, J. Watters and the late Tucker. Those people are just as cray and biased like the MSNBC crowd. I will give Fox this, Brett Baier is legit. This is where we are!
Reply Quote
Refresh
Page 1 of 1
 
×
subscribe Verify your student status
See Subscription Benefits
Trial only available to users who have never subscribed or participated in a previous trial.