Thee University said:These are real recordings of Confederate veterans demonstrating the old southern battle cry.Harrison Bergeron said:What is that from? Were those veterans that recorded that in the 1920s or something?Thee University said:
Thomas Alexander was a private in the 37th North Carolina Infantry Regiment (CSA), who enlisted at Charlotte in 1862, and was wounded in the leg at Fusel's Mill in 1864. His recording begins first, and lingers after the others have faded out.
The Lost Cause Myth
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Oldbear83 said:
"guess how many of these 28 citizens vote Democrat ?"
54 would be the correct answer, unless they need more.
The children of these millions of illegals will be citizens and legal voters .
The vast majority will vote Democrat.
Dems know exactly what they are doing.
Right. He had already drank the Kool Aid.Redbrickbear said:
It was such a "myth" that Northern politicians and veterans believed it.
"The war of 1861 was fought, not to determine the status of the negro, but to establish the permanence of the Union. From the beginning of the Republic to the end of the war, a long line of distinguished statesmen (and they were not confined to the south) believed-honestly believed- that when any state as judged for herself that she had sufficient cause to withdraw from the Union, she might do so in peace, and in harmony with the constitution. On the other hand, an equally long line of renowned leaders believed- honestly believed that there could be no peaceful disintegration of the Republic. It was inevitable from the first that, some time, the issue thus presented must be settled. In the very nature of things, there was but one arbiter for such a question. The battlefield was the only court that could render judgment upon an issue so vital and so fundamental." -Gov. Cummins (11/15/1906)
-The Gov. of Iowa said this as part of the dedication to the Iowa Monument at Vicksburg battlefield in 1906.
Racists North and South promoted this hogwash.
C. Jordan said:Right. He had already drank the Kool Aid.Redbrickbear said:
It was such a "myth" that Northern politicians and veterans believed it.
"The war of 1861 was fought, not to determine the status of the negro, but to establish the permanence of the Union. From the beginning of the Republic to the end of the war, a long line of distinguished statesmen (and they were not confined to the south) believed-honestly believed- that when any state as judged for herself that she had sufficient cause to withdraw from the Union, she might do so in peace, and in harmony with the constitution. On the other hand, an equally long line of renowned leaders believed- honestly believed that there could be no peaceful disintegration of the Republic. It was inevitable from the first that, some time, the issue thus presented must be settled. In the very nature of things, there was but one arbiter for such a question. The battlefield was the only court that could render judgment upon an issue so vital and so fundamental." -Gov. Cummins (11/15/1906)
-The Gov. of Iowa said this as part of the dedication to the Iowa Monument at Vicksburg battlefield in 1906.
Racists North and South promoted this hogwash.
It's "hogwash" that secession was an open constitutional question in 1861?
C.Jordan has not drunk the koolaid…it was of course the Union Veteran governor of Iowa…lol
Amazing that your side thinks it's not engaging in the most ludicrous historic revisionism.
No matter how much you want that war to be about Black people….that issue was only secondary to the Constitutional issues that mattered
The Lost Cause Myth is well known hogwash. Only the true believers buy into it.Redbrickbear said:C. Jordan said:Right. He had already drank the Kool Aid.Redbrickbear said:
It was such a "myth" that Northern politicians and veterans believed it.
"The war of 1861 was fought, not to determine the status of the negro, but to establish the permanence of the Union. From the beginning of the Republic to the end of the war, a long line of distinguished statesmen (and they were not confined to the south) believed-honestly believed- that when any state as judged for herself that she had sufficient cause to withdraw from the Union, she might do so in peace, and in harmony with the constitution. On the other hand, an equally long line of renowned leaders believed- honestly believed that there could be no peaceful disintegration of the Republic. It was inevitable from the first that, some time, the issue thus presented must be settled. In the very nature of things, there was but one arbiter for such a question. The battlefield was the only court that could render judgment upon an issue so vital and so fundamental." -Gov. Cummins (11/15/1906)
-The Gov. of Iowa said this as part of the dedication to the Iowa Monument at Vicksburg battlefield in 1906.
Racists North and South promoted this hogwash.
It's "hogwash" that secession was an open constitutional question in 1861?
C.Jordan has not drunk the koolaid…it was of course the Union Veteran governor of Iowa…lol
Amazing that your side thinks it's not engaging in the most ludicrous historic revisionism.
No matter how much you want that war to be about Black people….that issue was only secondary to the Constitutional issues that mattered
Vae Victis said:The Lost Cause Myth is well known hogwash. Only the true believers buy into it.Redbrickbear said:C. Jordan said:Right. He had already drank the Kool Aid.Redbrickbear said:
It was such a "myth" that Northern politicians and veterans believed it.
"The war of 1861 was fought, not to determine the status of the negro, but to establish the permanence of the Union. From the beginning of the Republic to the end of the war, a long line of distinguished statesmen (and they were not confined to the south) believed-honestly believed- that when any state as judged for herself that she had sufficient cause to withdraw from the Union, she might do so in peace, and in harmony with the constitution. On the other hand, an equally long line of renowned leaders believed- honestly believed that there could be no peaceful disintegration of the Republic. It was inevitable from the first that, some time, the issue thus presented must be settled. In the very nature of things, there was but one arbiter for such a question. The battlefield was the only court that could render judgment upon an issue so vital and so fundamental." -Gov. Cummins (11/15/1906)
-The Gov. of Iowa said this as part of the dedication to the Iowa Monument at Vicksburg battlefield in 1906.
Racists North and South promoted this hogwash.
It's "hogwash" that secession was an open constitutional question in 1861?
C.Jordan has not drunk the koolaid…it was of course the Union Veteran governor of Iowa…lol
Amazing that your side thinks it's not engaging in the most ludicrous historic revisionism.
No matter how much you want that war to be about Black people….that issue was only secondary to the Constitutional issues that mattered
What is the "Lost Cause Myth"?
That the Southern States thought they had a Constitutional right to leave the Union?
That the Southern people fought a long war, against some pretty overwhelming odds, to become independent?
Those are facts of history
The truth is that white people in this country die quicker than any other group of people.Redbrickbear said:Method Man said:The truth is that some people in this country are getting breeded out and replaced.KaiBear said:Bestweekeverr said:As the US population grows it's expected the number of homeless will grow as well. The total number of homeless remained between 550K and 650K from 2007 to 2020, but trending down until 2020, resulting in much lower rates of homelessness. Thanks to the American Rescue Plan, the number of homeless remained in this range. In 2023 most of the resources from the ARP expired leading to an increase in homeless populations, around the same number as 2007 (~650k). Since the population in 2023 was 40M higher, the homelessness rate is still 12% lower than it was during 2007. Veteran homelessness rate has decreased by over 1/3 in the previous 14 years, and family homelessness rates are also on a decline. Homelessness in the US is a problem, but the data shows it has been worse and is fixable given the resources.KaiBear said:Sincerely think it's wonderful you feel this way.Bestweekeverr said:The United States is still by far the strongest economy in world, at least in terms of GDP. In 2022 USA GDP was 40% greater than the next country, China, with about 1/3 of the population. USA GDP was 5 times higher than the next two countries, Japan and Germany.KaiBear said:Thee University said:
The South WILL rise again!
No it won't .
The South of 1860 is gone forever.
Worse; the United States of 1945 , is also gone forever .
From the world's dominate super power to a country where the mutilation of children is celebrated on Easter Sunday.
An incredible economic, cultural and moral collapse in less than a century .
Our military is still the best in the world with the USA spending almost 3 times as much as China and 10 times as much as Russia in 2022. Russia can't even successfully conquer Ukraine and has proven themselves to be a Paper Tiger. Chinese military is largely untested.
I think you spend too much time reading doom and gloom news. American was great under Bush, great under Obama, great under Trump, and even great now under Biden.
However our number of homeless has never been higher.
At least a dozen of our cities are crumbling rat holes.
Our southern boarder is completely wide open and an historical invasion of our to country is well underway. Intentionally instigated for political gain. The consequences of which are only now just beginning to be felt.
Our air force and especially our Navy are first rate. With the ' boomer submarines' easily our strongest and most deadly asset. However the army is in complete disarray; short handed with obsolete equipment, and horribly led at the top. I don't know but I suspect the Marines are well trained and motivated as always , but again their equipment is obsolete.
The national debt is not some innocuous number. It is at an all time high, increasing rapidly , and worst in the entire world by a large margin. Sooner rather than later an economic crisis is inevitable. Just as has happened in other countries in the same mess. Our people can't afford higher taxes and yet demand entitlements. Politically it is suicide to effectively correct the situation so nothing is done and our politicians merely pray they will be comfortably out of office before the crash.
Our country has never been more racially, culturally or economically divided than it is now. A situation our foreign enemies are well aware of. Have no idea how this can be successfully addressed. In the event of a ground war or severe recession all hell will break lose. A class war is a legitimate concern.
China is our most immediate threat, not Russia. Taiwan is lost it's just a matter of time. Hopefully we just accept the inevitable and stay clear as our people would never support a war over the island .
Short of a negotiated settlement of the Russian Ukrainian war ; NATO will be forced to get involved directly .As the Ukraine army is rapidly running out of combat troops. Yet again our people will never support such a war .
Cities rise and cities fall, I don't see any trend that America is on its way to its demise.
People have been saying immigration of so and so people would be the downfall of our nation since the beginning, and at a national level it has made us stronger. Recently, immigration was a big reason why our inflation was not as bad as the rest of the world. Not saying that we should have open borders, what's happening now does present real problems especially at the local level, but again, I don't see it as this cataclysmic event for the US.
With respect …..
Have you ever spent a few nights in downtown Memphis, Oakland, Baltimore, Detroit , New Orleans or St Louis ?
Try maybe a week in South Oak Cliff , East Saint Louis , Philadelphia. Newark, East LA, or Baton Rouge.
Strongly doubt you would be so causally dismissive of the realities involved.
Can only tell you the homeless problem at every Catholic Charities Rescue Mission I have visited or volunteered at is bursting with homeless people. And the suicide rate among our veterans is bad.
The border . There is no country on earth that can annually absorb the unemployed surplus population of two entire continents. For God's sake connect the dots . These illegals have no skills, few can read or write English . Exactly where is the annul job growth to employ an extra 2-4 million people each year ? What is going to stop this flood if we don't enforce existing immigration laws ?
Have you ever been to Mexico ? Not a resort mind you….but the real towns. The drug cartels run everything
Those people with recessive traits are at the biggest risk of being replaced.
Black people in the USA have a below replacement fertility rate. (Just like everyone else)
That means population decline in the USA. The only reason that does not happen is because of immigration from Africa and the Caribbean that keeps the population growing.
Its does not have anything to do with "recessive traits"
But its always interesting to see liberals and black people jump into supporting eugenic type language…
Look at pictures of the UT or Alabama football team from 1970 and then compare it to 2020.
Most of the white boys have been replaced with brothers.
Patrick Mahomes, Derek Lively, Klay Thompson all had white moms, but you can't tell because the dominant genes overtook the recessive ones.
The percentage of WASPS in this country decreases every election cycle. We will never see another 1984 election in our lifetime.
This was why a bunch of angry white boys took to the streets of Charlottesville to protest the Confederates monuments being taken down. Its a loss of prestige. Deep down these people know they are being replaced.
That fear of being replaced is ingrained in certain white people....thus the nostalgia for the confederacy and the Old South.
The Old South is never coming back.
Method Man said:The truth is that white people in this country die quicker than any other group of people.Redbrickbear said:Method Man said:The truth is that some people in this country are getting breeded out and replaced.KaiBear said:Bestweekeverr said:As the US population grows it's expected the number of homeless will grow as well. The total number of homeless remained between 550K and 650K from 2007 to 2020, but trending down until 2020, resulting in much lower rates of homelessness. Thanks to the American Rescue Plan, the number of homeless remained in this range. In 2023 most of the resources from the ARP expired leading to an increase in homeless populations, around the same number as 2007 (~650k). Since the population in 2023 was 40M higher, the homelessness rate is still 12% lower than it was during 2007. Veteran homelessness rate has decreased by over 1/3 in the previous 14 years, and family homelessness rates are also on a decline. Homelessness in the US is a problem, but the data shows it has been worse and is fixable given the resources.KaiBear said:Sincerely think it's wonderful you feel this way.Bestweekeverr said:The United States is still by far the strongest economy in world, at least in terms of GDP. In 2022 USA GDP was 40% greater than the next country, China, with about 1/3 of the population. USA GDP was 5 times higher than the next two countries, Japan and Germany.KaiBear said:Thee University said:
The South WILL rise again!
No it won't .
The South of 1860 is gone forever.
Worse; the United States of 1945 , is also gone forever .
From the world's dominate super power to a country where the mutilation of children is celebrated on Easter Sunday.
An incredible economic, cultural and moral collapse in less than a century .
Our military is still the best in the world with the USA spending almost 3 times as much as China and 10 times as much as Russia in 2022. Russia can't even successfully conquer Ukraine and has proven themselves to be a Paper Tiger. Chinese military is largely untested.
I think you spend too much time reading doom and gloom news. American was great under Bush, great under Obama, great under Trump, and even great now under Biden.
However our number of homeless has never been higher.
At least a dozen of our cities are crumbling rat holes.
Our southern boarder is completely wide open and an historical invasion of our to country is well underway. Intentionally instigated for political gain. The consequences of which are only now just beginning to be felt.
Our air force and especially our Navy are first rate. With the ' boomer submarines' easily our strongest and most deadly asset. However the army is in complete disarray; short handed with obsolete equipment, and horribly led at the top. I don't know but I suspect the Marines are well trained and motivated as always , but again their equipment is obsolete.
The national debt is not some innocuous number. It is at an all time high, increasing rapidly , and worst in the entire world by a large margin. Sooner rather than later an economic crisis is inevitable. Just as has happened in other countries in the same mess. Our people can't afford higher taxes and yet demand entitlements. Politically it is suicide to effectively correct the situation so nothing is done and our politicians merely pray they will be comfortably out of office before the crash.
Our country has never been more racially, culturally or economically divided than it is now. A situation our foreign enemies are well aware of. Have no idea how this can be successfully addressed. In the event of a ground war or severe recession all hell will break lose. A class war is a legitimate concern.
China is our most immediate threat, not Russia. Taiwan is lost it's just a matter of time. Hopefully we just accept the inevitable and stay clear as our people would never support a war over the island .
Short of a negotiated settlement of the Russian Ukrainian war ; NATO will be forced to get involved directly .As the Ukraine army is rapidly running out of combat troops. Yet again our people will never support such a war .
Cities rise and cities fall, I don't see any trend that America is on its way to its demise.
People have been saying immigration of so and so people would be the downfall of our nation since the beginning, and at a national level it has made us stronger. Recently, immigration was a big reason why our inflation was not as bad as the rest of the world. Not saying that we should have open borders, what's happening now does present real problems especially at the local level, but again, I don't see it as this cataclysmic event for the US.
With respect …..
Have you ever spent a few nights in downtown Memphis, Oakland, Baltimore, Detroit , New Orleans or St Louis ?
Try maybe a week in South Oak Cliff , East Saint Louis , Philadelphia. Newark, East LA, or Baton Rouge.
Strongly doubt you would be so causally dismissive of the realities involved.
Can only tell you the homeless problem at every Catholic Charities Rescue Mission I have visited or volunteered at is bursting with homeless people. And the suicide rate among our veterans is bad.
The border . There is no country on earth that can annually absorb the unemployed surplus population of two entire continents. For God's sake connect the dots . These illegals have no skills, few can read or write English . Exactly where is the annul job growth to employ an extra 2-4 million people each year ? What is going to stop this flood if we don't enforce existing immigration laws ?
Have you ever been to Mexico ? Not a resort mind you….but the real towns. The drug cartels run everything
Those people with recessive traits are at the biggest risk of being replaced.
Black people in the USA have a below replacement fertility rate. (Just like everyone else)
That means population decline in the USA. The only reason that does not happen is because of immigration from Africa and the Caribbean that keeps the population growing.
Its does not have anything to do with "recessive traits"
But its always interesting to see liberals and black people jump into supporting eugenic type language…
Look at pictures of the UT or Alabama football team from 1970 and then compare it to 2020.
Most of the white boys have been replaced with brothers.
Patrick Mahomes, Derek Lively, Klay Thompson all had white moms, but you can't tell because the dominant genes overtook the recessive ones.
The percentage of WASPS in this country decreases every election cycle. We will never seen another 1984 election in our lifetime.
This was why a bunch of angry white boys took to the streets of Charlottesville to protest the Confederates monuments being taken down. Its a loss of prestige.
That is a strange segway....that the racial make up of the Alabama or UT football teams has any relationship to the numbers of people in those States?
There were 7.7 million White people in Texas in 1970...there are 12 million in 2022
There were 2.5 million White people in Alabama in 1970...there are 3.2 million in 2022
Hardly some kind of collapse...so I'm not sure what your football team comparison means
[see percentages by State below
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_African-American_population
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_non-Hispanic_white_population]
2.1 is the fertility rate, so even hispanics are below that rate in the United States. Go Native Americans.Redbrickbear said:Method Man said:The truth is that some people in this country are getting breeded out and replaced.KaiBear said:Bestweekeverr said:As the US population grows it's expected the number of homeless will grow as well. The total number of homeless remained between 550K and 650K from 2007 to 2020, but trending down until 2020, resulting in much lower rates of homelessness. Thanks to the American Rescue Plan, the number of homeless remained in this range. In 2023 most of the resources from the ARP expired leading to an increase in homeless populations, around the same number as 2007 (~650k). Since the population in 2023 was 40M higher, the homelessness rate is still 12% lower than it was during 2007. Veteran homelessness rate has decreased by over 1/3 in the previous 14 years, and family homelessness rates are also on a decline. Homelessness in the US is a problem, but the data shows it has been worse and is fixable given the resources.KaiBear said:Sincerely think it's wonderful you feel this way.Bestweekeverr said:The United States is still by far the strongest economy in world, at least in terms of GDP. In 2022 USA GDP was 40% greater than the next country, China, with about 1/3 of the population. USA GDP was 5 times higher than the next two countries, Japan and Germany.KaiBear said:Thee University said:
The South WILL rise again!
No it won't .
The South of 1860 is gone forever.
Worse; the United States of 1945 , is also gone forever .
From the world's dominate super power to a country where the mutilation of children is celebrated on Easter Sunday.
An incredible economic, cultural and moral collapse in less than a century .
Our military is still the best in the world with the USA spending almost 3 times as much as China and 10 times as much as Russia in 2022. Russia can't even successfully conquer Ukraine and has proven themselves to be a Paper Tiger. Chinese military is largely untested.
I think you spend too much time reading doom and gloom news. American was great under Bush, great under Obama, great under Trump, and even great now under Biden.
However our number of homeless has never been higher.
At least a dozen of our cities are crumbling rat holes.
Our southern boarder is completely wide open and an historical invasion of our to country is well underway. Intentionally instigated for political gain. The consequences of which are only now just beginning to be felt.
Our air force and especially our Navy are first rate. With the ' boomer submarines' easily our strongest and most deadly asset. However the army is in complete disarray; short handed with obsolete equipment, and horribly led at the top. I don't know but I suspect the Marines are well trained and motivated as always , but again their equipment is obsolete.
The national debt is not some innocuous number. It is at an all time high, increasing rapidly , and worst in the entire world by a large margin. Sooner rather than later an economic crisis is inevitable. Just as has happened in other countries in the same mess. Our people can't afford higher taxes and yet demand entitlements. Politically it is suicide to effectively correct the situation so nothing is done and our politicians merely pray they will be comfortably out of office before the crash.
Our country has never been more racially, culturally or economically divided than it is now. A situation our foreign enemies are well aware of. Have no idea how this can be successfully addressed. In the event of a ground war or severe recession all hell will break lose. A class war is a legitimate concern.
China is our most immediate threat, not Russia. Taiwan is lost it's just a matter of time. Hopefully we just accept the inevitable and stay clear as our people would never support a war over the island .
Short of a negotiated settlement of the Russian Ukrainian war ; NATO will be forced to get involved directly .As the Ukraine army is rapidly running out of combat troops. Yet again our people will never support such a war .
Cities rise and cities fall, I don't see any trend that America is on its way to its demise.
People have been saying immigration of so and so people would be the downfall of our nation since the beginning, and at a national level it has made us stronger. Recently, immigration was a big reason why our inflation was not as bad as the rest of the world. Not saying that we should have open borders, what's happening now does present real problems especially at the local level, but again, I don't see it as this cataclysmic event for the US.
With respect …..
Have you ever spent a few nights in downtown Memphis, Oakland, Baltimore, Detroit , New Orleans or St Louis ?
Try maybe a week in South Oak Cliff , East Saint Louis , Philadelphia. Newark, East LA, or Baton Rouge.
Strongly doubt you would be so causally dismissive of the realities involved.
Can only tell you the homeless problem at every Catholic Charities Rescue Mission I have visited or volunteered at is bursting with homeless people. And the suicide rate among our veterans is bad.
The border . There is no country on earth that can annually absorb the unemployed surplus population of two entire continents. For God's sake connect the dots . These illegals have no skills, few can read or write English . Exactly where is the annul job growth to employ an extra 2-4 million people each year ? What is going to stop this flood if we don't enforce existing immigration laws ?
Have you ever been to Mexico ? Not a resort mind you….but the real towns. The drug cartels run everything
Those people with recessive traits are at the biggest risk of being replaced.
Black people in the USA have a below replacement fertility rate. (Just like everyone else)
That means population decline in the USA. The only reason that does not happen is because of immigration from Africa and the Caribbean that keeps the population growing.
Its does not have anything to do with "recessive traits"
But its always interesting to see liberals and black people jump into supporting eugenic type language…
Whites/Blacks well below. Asians, good greif.
In the late 50's the fertility rate approached 4.
Forest Bueller_bf said:2.1 is the fertility rate, so even hispanics are below that rate in the United States. Go Native Americans.Redbrickbear said:Method Man said:The truth is that some people in this country are getting breeded out and replaced.KaiBear said:Bestweekeverr said:As the US population grows it's expected the number of homeless will grow as well. The total number of homeless remained between 550K and 650K from 2007 to 2020, but trending down until 2020, resulting in much lower rates of homelessness. Thanks to the American Rescue Plan, the number of homeless remained in this range. In 2023 most of the resources from the ARP expired leading to an increase in homeless populations, around the same number as 2007 (~650k). Since the population in 2023 was 40M higher, the homelessness rate is still 12% lower than it was during 2007. Veteran homelessness rate has decreased by over 1/3 in the previous 14 years, and family homelessness rates are also on a decline. Homelessness in the US is a problem, but the data shows it has been worse and is fixable given the resources.KaiBear said:Sincerely think it's wonderful you feel this way.Bestweekeverr said:The United States is still by far the strongest economy in world, at least in terms of GDP. In 2022 USA GDP was 40% greater than the next country, China, with about 1/3 of the population. USA GDP was 5 times higher than the next two countries, Japan and Germany.KaiBear said:Thee University said:
The South WILL rise again!
No it won't .
The South of 1860 is gone forever.
Worse; the United States of 1945 , is also gone forever .
From the world's dominate super power to a country where the mutilation of children is celebrated on Easter Sunday.
An incredible economic, cultural and moral collapse in less than a century .
Our military is still the best in the world with the USA spending almost 3 times as much as China and 10 times as much as Russia in 2022. Russia can't even successfully conquer Ukraine and has proven themselves to be a Paper Tiger. Chinese military is largely untested.
I think you spend too much time reading doom and gloom news. American was great under Bush, great under Obama, great under Trump, and even great now under Biden.
However our number of homeless has never been higher.
At least a dozen of our cities are crumbling rat holes.
Our southern boarder is completely wide open and an historical invasion of our to country is well underway. Intentionally instigated for political gain. The consequences of which are only now just beginning to be felt.
Our air force and especially our Navy are first rate. With the ' boomer submarines' easily our strongest and most deadly asset. However the army is in complete disarray; short handed with obsolete equipment, and horribly led at the top. I don't know but I suspect the Marines are well trained and motivated as always , but again their equipment is obsolete.
The national debt is not some innocuous number. It is at an all time high, increasing rapidly , and worst in the entire world by a large margin. Sooner rather than later an economic crisis is inevitable. Just as has happened in other countries in the same mess. Our people can't afford higher taxes and yet demand entitlements. Politically it is suicide to effectively correct the situation so nothing is done and our politicians merely pray they will be comfortably out of office before the crash.
Our country has never been more racially, culturally or economically divided than it is now. A situation our foreign enemies are well aware of. Have no idea how this can be successfully addressed. In the event of a ground war or severe recession all hell will break lose. A class war is a legitimate concern.
China is our most immediate threat, not Russia. Taiwan is lost it's just a matter of time. Hopefully we just accept the inevitable and stay clear as our people would never support a war over the island .
Short of a negotiated settlement of the Russian Ukrainian war ; NATO will be forced to get involved directly .As the Ukraine army is rapidly running out of combat troops. Yet again our people will never support such a war .
Cities rise and cities fall, I don't see any trend that America is on its way to its demise.
People have been saying immigration of so and so people would be the downfall of our nation since the beginning, and at a national level it has made us stronger. Recently, immigration was a big reason why our inflation was not as bad as the rest of the world. Not saying that we should have open borders, what's happening now does present real problems especially at the local level, but again, I don't see it as this cataclysmic event for the US.
With respect …..
Have you ever spent a few nights in downtown Memphis, Oakland, Baltimore, Detroit , New Orleans or St Louis ?
Try maybe a week in South Oak Cliff , East Saint Louis , Philadelphia. Newark, East LA, or Baton Rouge.
Strongly doubt you would be so causally dismissive of the realities involved.
Can only tell you the homeless problem at every Catholic Charities Rescue Mission I have visited or volunteered at is bursting with homeless people. And the suicide rate among our veterans is bad.
The border . There is no country on earth that can annually absorb the unemployed surplus population of two entire continents. For God's sake connect the dots . These illegals have no skills, few can read or write English . Exactly where is the annul job growth to employ an extra 2-4 million people each year ? What is going to stop this flood if we don't enforce existing immigration laws ?
Have you ever been to Mexico ? Not a resort mind you….but the real towns. The drug cartels run everything
Those people with recessive traits are at the biggest risk of being replaced.
Black people in the USA have a below replacement fertility rate. (Just like everyone else)
That means population decline in the USA. The only reason that does not happen is because of immigration from Africa and the Caribbean that keeps the population growing.
Its does not have anything to do with "recessive traits"
But its always interesting to see liberals and black people jump into supporting eugenic type language…
Whites/Blacks well below. Asians, good greif.
In the late 50's the fertility rate approached 4.
Native Americans are at 1.4 (one of the lowest fertility rates in the USA)
That is native Hawaiian's at 2.1
And there are not a lot of them...max 500,000
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Hawaiians#:~:text=Native%20Hawaiians%20(also%20known%20as,people%20of%20the%20Hawaiian%20Islands.