Could Biden Take a Dive Thursday?

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Jack Bauer said:

Oldbear83 said:

boognish_bear said:

Oldbear83 said:

The Democrats are in real trouble now. Tonight was Biden's Hail-Mary and Trump intercepted it.

There are a number of big problems for Democrats as they scramble on how to find a win.

The first problem is getting Joe to play along with stepping down as the nominee. Or rather, keeping Jill Biden quiet about the reasons.

The second problem is the big one - who to nominate. While many expect Michelle Obama to be the choice, it's also too pat for a lot of voters and Michelle is not going to automatically achieve the results her husband did, not least because Barack had years to lay the groundwork and make the media rounds. And frankly, Michelle has not been able to handle the press nearly as well as her husband could, and we saw with Hillary what happens when a media novice thinks the family name will overcome any doubts.

There really is no Democrat who has genuine national appeal, especially on the Economy and the Border,

Changing out nominees at this point is like changing quarterbacks with 5 minutes to go in the 3rd quarter after allowing multiple pick-sixes.




I think it's more like the 2 minute warning....not Q3
Oh, there's still a lot left to happen.

First, expect a number of media polls to push back until next Monday/Tuesday, and Biden will likely lose about 1 to 1.5 points of support, which the media will call statistically insignificant. Trump will gain 1.5 to 2 points of support over the weekend, moving his average to something like 47.0% to 42.5%. The media will claim a lot of voters are undecided.

Over July, expect the Democrats to try vetting a replacement nominee, with all kinds of private focus groups testing reaction to Newsome, Whitmer, Harris and Ms. Obama among others. By mid-month, Democrats will learn the limits of support for those mandarins in battleground states, where voters have been clear they don't want politics as usual.

One of two things will happen - either Democrats will gamble on a young, fresh face they hope will spark echoes of Barack Obama, someone relatively unknown with no track record but a good media presence, or they will tell themselves that Biden is still their best chance, and hope against hope that the polls are wrong in their favor.



There are 130 days until the Election and the Dems only have 2 major events to spotlight a new candidate

The DNC on August 22 and the 2nd debate on September 10.
That could be enough depending on the candidate.

It is a shame that the Democrat Party is trusted at all to be democratic in its candidate choice. They obviously can't even tell the truth about the ability of their leading candidate to do the job. They obviously want the dark figures to run the government , and not their elected president.
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Fre3dombear
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Bestweekeverr said:

Oldbear83 said:

It occurs to me that among the possible plans, would be one where Biden has an on-air medical event.

But Biden's increasing instability may decide the matter for Democrats, and I suspect there may be a point where handlers decide to abandon him … in which case they may decide Biden would have a medical episode of some kind.


This would allow the DNC to pick the nominee, while selling Biden as a sympathetic image to voters. Going back to Johnson, he certainly played JFK's death to his advantage, as that thoroughly unlikeable man rode the nation's grief over Kennedy to a curb-stomping win in 1964. While no one seriously imagines Joe Biden could be compared to John Kennedy, the playbook is already written for that eventuality, and I am sure the Democrats are ready to call the play if Joe gets into real trouble tomorrow.

Your imagination is wild.

If there were puppet masters pulling the strings they would have forced Biden to step down awhile before now.

Biden is running because he wants to be president again, and he's not going to fake a medical event in front of the nation because the Bill Belichick of the Left is on the sidelines and calls for a hail-mary.


No

he's running because if he stepped down the democrats would have to run Kamala

Only the staunchest partisans think someone she's capable and not just a typical Biden / Obama token

They can't pass her over for the white guy those racists always run while telling blacks they are helping us etc because then it would be Obvious to someone even of Kamala's intellect that they are the racist sexists we all know they are

That's why he's "running"
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

J.R. said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

One candidate loves his country. One candidate does not know what country he's in. A simple choice.
really? Grifters gonna grift.
Donald Trump donates his entire salary to charity. I ain't no rocket scientist, but that doesn't sound like grifting to me. Why in the world would the man subject himself every single day to the attacks from the lame brains on the Left? He doesn't need to. It is not money that motivates him.

I honestly believe Joe Biden is much sharper and alert than the majority of his supporters. We have sure gotten stupid quickly as a country. I would think with the 9,000,000+ "newcomers" that have entered illegally, the average IQ in the U.S. has probably gone up!


It's amazing how much people Inexplicably hate donad trump and suddenly run to morals etc, but only with regards to him. He's a "felon" after all like so many of us

It has been so Hilarious to watch for years
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Fre3dombear said:

Bestweekeverr said:

Oldbear83 said:

It occurs to me that among the possible plans, would be one where Biden has an on-air medical event.

But Biden's increasing instability may decide the matter for Democrats, and I suspect there may be a point where handlers decide to abandon him … in which case they may decide Biden would have a medical episode of some kind.


This would allow the DNC to pick the nominee, while selling Biden as a sympathetic image to voters. Going back to Johnson, he certainly played JFK's death to his advantage, as that thoroughly unlikeable man rode the nation's grief over Kennedy to a curb-stomping win in 1964. While no one seriously imagines Joe Biden could be compared to John Kennedy, the playbook is already written for that eventuality, and I am sure the Democrats are ready to call the play if Joe gets into real trouble tomorrow.

Your imagination is wild.

If there were puppet masters pulling the strings they would have forced Biden to step down awhile before now.

Biden is running because he wants to be president again, and he's not going to fake a medical event in front of the nation because the Bill Belichick of the Left is on the sidelines and calls for a hail-mary.


No

he's running because if he stepped down the democrats would have to run Kamala

Only the staunchest partisans think someone she's capable and not just a typical Biden / Obama token

They can't pass her over for the white guy those racists always run while telling blacks they are helping us etc because then it would be Obvious to someone even of Kamala's intellect that they are the racist sexists we all know they are

That's why he's "running"


Promises made to Kamala back in 2020 to get her to give up a safe CA senate seat just to be VP are going to be difficult to overcome……….

But Dem power broker$ will find a way to $afely get her to $tep a$ide without alienating the critical black vote.
chriscbear
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I think they did this on purpose to force Joe out. What's the plan now ?
LIB,MR BEARS
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Who dies first

Trump
Harris
Biden
KaiBear
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

Who dies first

Trump
Harris
Biden


Harris is untouchable.

But she will have to be successfully paid off before Newsome can be given the nomination.
Jack Bauer
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"The denial is strong with this one..."

This is like watching your friend justify his wife's cheating and saying she is still a good woman.

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KaiBear said:

Fre3dombear said:

Bestweekeverr said:

Oldbear83 said:

It occurs to me that among the possible plans, would be one where Biden has an on-air medical event.

But Biden's increasing instability may decide the matter for Democrats, and I suspect there may be a point where handlers decide to abandon him … in which case they may decide Biden would have a medical episode of some kind.


This would allow the DNC to pick the nominee, while selling Biden as a sympathetic image to voters. Going back to Johnson, he certainly played JFK's death to his advantage, as that thoroughly unlikeable man rode the nation's grief over Kennedy to a curb-stomping win in 1964. While no one seriously imagines Joe Biden could be compared to John Kennedy, the playbook is already written for that eventuality, and I am sure the Democrats are ready to call the play if Joe gets into real trouble tomorrow.

Your imagination is wild.

If there were puppet masters pulling the strings they would have forced Biden to step down awhile before now.

Biden is running because he wants to be president again, and he's not going to fake a medical event in front of the nation because the Bill Belichick of the Left is on the sidelines and calls for a hail-mary.


No

he's running because if he stepped down the democrats would have to run Kamala

Only the staunchest partisans think someone she's capable and not just a typical Biden / Obama token

They can't pass her over for the white guy those racists always run while telling blacks they are helping us etc because then it would be Obvious to someone even of Kamala's intellect that they are the racist sexists we all know they are

That's why he's "running"


Promises made to Kamala back in 2020 to get her to give up a safe CA senate seat just to be VP are going to be difficult to overcome……….

But Dem power broker$ will find a way to $afely get her to $tep a$ide without alienating the critical black vote.

If she steps aside, it is because she has just become wealthier than anything she ever imagined.
KaiBear
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Ol Bernie collected some 'compensation' after the Dems screwed him over in 2020.

But Harris will demand a far larger payoff.
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Jack Bauer said:

"The denial is strong with this one..."

This is like watching your friend justify his wife's cheating and saying she is still a good woman.


“Mix a little foolishness with your serious plans. It is lovely to be silly at the right moment.”

–Horace


“Insomnia sharpens your math skills because you spend all night calculating how much sleep you’ll get if you’re able to ‘fall asleep right now.’ “
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KaiBear said:

Expectations are so low for Biden all he has to do is appear wide awake and 95% of the media will declare him the winner.

Well, he didn't appear wide awake. So they are in a panic.
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Forest Bueller_bf said:

KaiBear said:

Expectations are so low for Biden all he has to do is appear wide awake and 95% of the media will declare him the winner.

Well, he didn't appear wide awake. So they are in a panic.
True

And no one holds the media accountable for covering up Biden's obvious dementia these last 3.5 years.

In the middle of a proxy war with a nuclear superpower no less.


Inexcusable.
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KaiBear said:

BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

Oh, Biden will take a dive alright. A dive into a pool of modafinil, Adderall, methylphenidate, and extra hemoglobin before the debate.


And people who can't accept such a probability have never read about all the drugs Kennedy was injected with daily.
Back pain and full on dementia are very different things.
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jbbear said:

KaiBear said:

BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

Oh, Biden will take a dive alright. A dive into a pool of modafinil, Adderall, methylphenidate, and extra hemoglobin before the debate.


And people who can't accept such a probability have never read about all the drugs Kennedy was injected with daily.
Back pain and full on dementia are very different things.


Pain killers and steroids.

Kennedy was a full on addict by the time of his assassination.
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Kennedy was in his 40's .
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