whiterock said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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"Then they should be disputed"

They have been. How did you miss it?

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That is what we are seeing play out. If Cannon can't see a way to dismiss, then the charges must be warranted.

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Thank you for your post, how is everyone else at MSNBC?

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Cannon has let case continue, why? She is as MAGA as they get. Yet she lets is go. That doesn't have you question?

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Cannon, unlike you, is a real-world judge. Your asinine belief that she is 'MAGA' just because she is doing her job, in no way means the case against Trump is going at all the way you imagine it is.

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She has been threatened to be removed for slow playing. Trump could not have gotten a more favorable Judge. There is a reason she is slow playing it.

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Oh please, Hunter. Just admit you are mad it's looking more and more like Trump will win this case.

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She's slow playing it because she knows the prosecution is a partisan sham but doesn't want to toss the case and open up herself and the judiciary at large to charges of partisan bias. So she's making Smith stew in his own juices.....requiring him to prove each step his work at every single comma and clause, in many cases showing what a shoddy job Smith has done. That will push the trial to the point where it will not have an impact on the election, which before the arrival of Donald J. Trump was official DOJ policy under admins of both parties for quite a long, long time.....do not prosecute candidates during an election.

Smith, if we pause to remember, is the guy who steered the John Edwards prosecution to a mistrial, and got his prosecution of Bob McDonnell overturned by SCOTUS 9-0 (by a more liberal court than we have today). He is rashly aggressive, lives out over the tips of his skis. If any attorney needs to be made to prove his work, it is Jack Luman Smith. Stereotypical wild man. Andrew Weissman 2.0

Weissman, if we recall, got his prosecution of Arthur Andersen overturned by SCOTUS, because he persuaded the judge "to instruct the jury that they could convict the firm regardless of whether its employees knew they were violating the law." It's a relevant precedent for the Trump appeal on his case in NYC.

Cannon knows who Smith is. She's doing a fine job of making him act like a mere mortal.

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As I said, Trump got the best possible draw of Judge in the best location. He needs to win to shut this crap to an end. But it needs to follow the process. She is catching heat over her actions, her competency is being questioned.

FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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"Then they should be disputed"

They have been. How did you miss it?

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That is what we are seeing play out. If Cannon can't see a way to dismiss, then the charges must be warranted.

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Thank you for your post, how is everyone else at MSNBC?

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Cannon has let case continue, why? She is as MAGA as they get. Yet she lets is go. That doesn't have you question?

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Cannon, unlike you, is a real-world judge. Your asinine belief that she is 'MAGA' just because she is doing her job, in no way means the case against Trump is going at all the way you imagine it is.

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She has been threatened to be removed for slow playing. Trump could not have gotten a more favorable Judge. There is a reason she is slow playing it.

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Oh please, Hunter. Just admit you are mad it's looking more and more like Trump will win this case.

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She's slow playing it because she knows the prosecution is a partisan sham but doesn't want to toss the case and open up herself and the judiciary at large to charges of partisan bias. So she's making Smith stew in his own juices.....requiring him to prove each step his work at every single comma and clause, in many cases showing what a shoddy job Smith has done. That will push the trial to the point where it will not have an impact on the election, which before the arrival of Donald J. Trump was official DOJ policy under admins of both parties for quite a long, long time.....do not prosecute candidates during an election.

Smith, if we pause to remember, is the guy who steered the John Edwards prosecution to a mistrial, and got his prosecution of Bob McDonnell overturned by SCOTUS 9-0 (by a more liberal court than we have today). He is rashly aggressive, lives out over the tips of his skis. If any attorney needs to be made to prove his work, it is Jack Luman Smith. Stereotypical wild man. Andrew Weissman 2.0

Weissman, if we recall, got his prosecution of Arthur Andersen overturned by SCOTUS, because he persuaded the judge "to instruct the jury that they could convict the firm regardless of whether its employees knew they were violating the law." It's a relevant precedent for the Trump appeal on his case in NYC.

Cannon knows who Smith is. She's doing a fine job of making him act like a mere mortal.

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As I said, Trump got the best possible draw of Judge in the best location. He needs to win to shut this crap to an end. But it needs to follow the process. She is catching heat over her actions, her competency is being questioned.......by a highly partisan press corps that failed to summon a single syllable of criticism of Merchan's outrageous performance in NYC.

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Democrats attack the way they do because they know middle ground fallacy is the default condition of the mind for most people, who will assume the existence of criticism implies malfeasance of some kind, somewhere. THat's why Biden chose the prosecution route rather than the civil route on this issue. But a dispute over constitutional law on the limits of presidential power is esoteric, only of interest to a small subset of the country. A prosecution on espionage charges, on the other hand, is saucy, steamy, soap opera drama that can capture imagination in wide swathes of minds, giving those who have hated him forever reason to hate him forevermore, and those on the fence reason to jump left instead of right.

All DOJ had to do is file suit in federal court to obtain an order for Trump to return them. Things would have worked themselves out as they normally do. But no. Not this bunch of progressive autocrats. They will obeyed or they will destroy.

FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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"Then they should be disputed"

They have been. How did you miss it?

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That is what we are seeing play out. If Cannon can't see a way to dismiss, then the charges must be warranted.

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Thank you for your post, how is everyone else at MSNBC?

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Cannon has let case continue, why? She is as MAGA as they get. Yet she lets is go. That doesn't have you question?

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Cannon, unlike you, is a real-world judge. Your asinine belief that she is 'MAGA' just because she is doing her job, in no way means the case against Trump is going at all the way you imagine it is.

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She has been threatened to be removed for slow playing. Trump could not have gotten a more favorable Judge. There is a reason she is slow playing it.

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Oh please, Hunter. Just admit you are mad it's looking more and more like Trump will win this case.

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She's slow playing it because she knows the prosecution is a partisan sham but doesn't want to toss the case and open up herself and the judiciary at large to charges of partisan bias. So she's making Smith stew in his own juices.....requiring him to prove each step his work at every single comma and clause, in many cases showing what a shoddy job Smith has done. That will push the trial to the point where it will not have an impact on the election, which before the arrival of Donald J. Trump was official DOJ policy under admins of both parties for quite a long, long time.....do not prosecute candidates during an election.

Smith, if we pause to remember, is the guy who steered the John Edwards prosecution to a mistrial, and got his prosecution of Bob McDonnell overturned by SCOTUS 9-0 (by a more liberal court than we have today). He is rashly aggressive, lives out over the tips of his skis. If any attorney needs to be made to prove his work, it is Jack Luman Smith. Stereotypical wild man. Andrew Weissman 2.0

Weissman, if we recall, got his prosecution of Arthur Andersen overturned by SCOTUS, because he persuaded the judge "to instruct the jury that they could convict the firm regardless of whether its employees knew they were violating the law." It's a relevant precedent for the Trump appeal on his case in NYC.

Cannon knows who Smith is. She's doing a fine job of making him act like a mere mortal.

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As I said, Trump got the best possible draw of Judge in the best location. He needs to win to shut this crap to an end. But it needs to follow the process. She is catching heat over her actions, her competency is being questioned.

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By whom? She is an Article III judge and while there are some administrative things that Chief Judge Altonaga (GWB appointee) can do to her docket, short of impeachment, Judge Cannon is there for life.

GrowlTowel said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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whiterock said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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"Then they should be disputed"

They have been. How did you miss it?

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That is what we are seeing play out. If Cannon can't see a way to dismiss, then the charges must be warranted.

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Thank you for your post, how is everyone else at MSNBC?

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Cannon has let case continue, why? She is as MAGA as they get. Yet she lets is go. That doesn't have you question?

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Cannon, unlike you, is a real-world judge. Your asinine belief that she is 'MAGA' just because she is doing her job, in no way means the case against Trump is going at all the way you imagine it is.

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She has been threatened to be removed for slow playing. Trump could not have gotten a more favorable Judge. There is a reason she is slow playing it.

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Oh please, Hunter. Just admit you are mad it's looking more and more like Trump will win this case.

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She's slow playing it because she knows the prosecution is a partisan sham but doesn't want to toss the case and open up herself and the judiciary at large to charges of partisan bias. So she's making Smith stew in his own juices.....requiring him to prove each step his work at every single comma and clause, in many cases showing what a shoddy job Smith has done. That will push the trial to the point where it will not have an impact on the election, which before the arrival of Donald J. Trump was official DOJ policy under admins of both parties for quite a long, long time.....do not prosecute candidates during an election.

Smith, if we pause to remember, is the guy who steered the John Edwards prosecution to a mistrial, and got his prosecution of Bob McDonnell overturned by SCOTUS 9-0 (by a more liberal court than we have today). He is rashly aggressive, lives out over the tips of his skis. If any attorney needs to be made to prove his work, it is Jack Luman Smith. Stereotypical wild man. Andrew Weissman 2.0

Weissman, if we recall, got his prosecution of Arthur Andersen overturned by SCOTUS, because he persuaded the judge "to instruct the jury that they could convict the firm regardless of whether its employees knew they were violating the law." It's a relevant precedent for the Trump appeal on his case in NYC.

Cannon knows who Smith is. She's doing a fine job of making him act like a mere mortal.

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As I said, Trump got the best possible draw of Judge in the best location. He needs to win to shut this crap to an end. But it needs to follow the process. She is catching heat over her actions, her competency is being questioned.

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By whom? She is an Article III judge and while there are some administrative things that Chief Judge Altonaga (GWB appointee) can do to her docket, short of impeachment, Judge Cannon is there for life.

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The same radical extremist LWNJs that told us the Russia Hoax was real and Hunter's laptop was fake.

Democrats had democracy and the judicial process if it does not fit their ends.