Let's share our experience here.

https://people.com/mom-opens-up-raising-kids-while-in-open-marriage-with-husband-14-years-exclusive-8663541

Mitch Blood Green said:

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Let's share our experience here.

https://people.com/mom-opens-up-raising-kids-while-in-open-marriage-with-husband-14-years-exclusive-8663541

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You, get out! And take your upside down pie apple with you

That's not marriage.

This thread is going to go about as well as a "let me tell you about the time I got drunk, had an abortion, slept with a pastor and ran over a puppy" thread on a Baylor forum.

OsoCoreyell said:

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That's not marriage.

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Two married people who love each other but sleep with other people is better or worse than two married people who are completely committed to each other but the man beats the woman in front of their kids? And…go!

Two married people who love each other but sleep with other people openly are more or less married than the people in your church this very morning who are sleeping with other people but keeping it a secret? And…go!

nein51 said:

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OsoCoreyell said:

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That's not marriage.

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Two married people who love each other but sleep with other people is better or worse than two married people who are completely committed to each other but the man beats the woman in front of their kids? And…go!

Two married people who love each other but sleep with other people openly are more or less married than the people in your church this very morning who are sleeping with other people but keeping it a secret? And…go!

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a gun shot to the left knee cap it better or worse than a gun shot to the right knee cap? And…go!

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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nein51 said:

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OsoCoreyell said:

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That's not marriage.

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Two married people who love each other but sleep with other people is better or worse than two married people who are completely committed to each other but the man beats the woman in front of their kids? And…go!

Two married people who love each other but sleep with other people openly are more or less married than the people in your church this very morning who are sleeping with other people but keeping it a secret? And…go!

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a gun shot to the left knee cap it better or worse than a gun shot to the right knee cap? And…go!

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He said it's not marriage. I'm just trying to ascertain if a good marriage where people sleep with other people is worse than a bad marriage where they don't.

Yours is a false equivalency.

However, I realize this is a Baylor forum where even the very most liberal members are not going to have a positive outlook on an open marriage.

Open marriage? My wife would open me up with a carving knife if I were to suggest such a thing (not that I would).

Open marriage is Not a marriage.

Waco1947 said:

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Open marriage is Not a marriage.

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but what if it's with three men that I genuinely love?

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Open marriage is Not a marriage.

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but what if it's with three men that I genuinely love?

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Marriage regardless of one's sexual identity is still marriage between2 people. Marriages regardless sexuality are at heart about fidelity, an intimacy which cannot be violated without serious consequence.

Waco1947 said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Open marriage is Not a marriage.

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but what if it's with three men that I genuinely love?

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Marriage regardless of one's sexual identity is still marriage between2 people. Marriages regardless sexuality are at heart about fidelity, an intimacy which cannot be violated without serious consequence.

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we call the third party an immigrant partner. They entered into the covenant illegally but we believe it is right to grant them all the rights of a spouse.

Waco1947 said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Open marriage is Not a marriage.

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but what if it's with three men that I genuinely love?

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Marriage regardless of one's sexual identity is still marriage between2 people. Marriages regardless sexuality are at heart about fidelity, an intimacy which cannot be violated without serious consequence.

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That's very bigoted of you to limit a marriage to just two people.

There are 1000's of thruples and other polyamorous relationships that would disagree with you.

They are all about fidelity to each other and their union.

Waco1947 said:

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Open marriage is Not a marriage.

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Awfully bold judgement from a pastor who leads people away from God.

Coke Bear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Open marriage is Not a marriage.

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but what if it's with three men that I genuinely love?

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Marriage regardless of one's sexual identity is still marriage between2 people. Marriages regardless sexuality are at heart about fidelity, an intimacy which cannot be violated without serious consequence.

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That's very bigoted of you to limit a marriage to just two people.

There are 1000's of thruples and other polyamorous relationships that would disagree with you.

They are all about fidelity to each other and their union.

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I know this is tongue in cheek but it's also true.

nein51 said:

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Coke Bear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Open marriage is Not a marriage.

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but what if it's with three men that I genuinely love?

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Marriage regardless of one's sexual identity is still marriage between2 people. Marriages regardless sexuality are at heart about fidelity, an intimacy which cannot be violated without serious consequence.

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That's very bigoted of you to limit a marriage to just two people.

There are 1000's of thruples and other polyamorous relationships that would disagree with you.

They are all about fidelity to each other and their union.

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I know this is tongue in cheek but it's also true.

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It is tongue-in-check and people may FEEL it's true but any sex outside a marriage is adultery. That is a sin. No matter if it is approved/allowed by the other spouse.

Waco1947 said:

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Marriage regardless of one's sexual identity is still marriage between2 people. Marriages regardless sexuality are at heart about fidelity, an intimacy which cannot be violated without serious consequence.

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#Devil's advocate hat on

Because?

Polygamy has a much longer history in human society - including Jewish society - than fornication, adultry, or homosexuality.

#Devil's advocate hat off

What constitutes adultery is not defined by the humans involved, but rather by the God involved.

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Waco1947 said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Open marriage is Not a marriage.

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but what if it's with three men that I genuinely love?

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Marriage regardless of one's sexual identity is still marriage between2 people. Marriages regardless sexuality are at heart about fidelity, an intimacy which cannot be violated without serious consequence.

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we call the third party an immigrant partner. They entered into the covenant illegally but we believe it is right to grant them all the rights of a spouse.

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Don't give the left any ideas.

Marriage was destroyed by easy divorce and Obergfell. What its form, purpose, and expectations are is completely open for interpretation at this stage.

Marriage is between 2 people regardless of sexuality and the Bible is clear - marriage is monogamous and its integrity is based fidelity.

Coke Bear said:

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nein51 said:

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Coke Bear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Open marriage is Not a marriage.

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but what if it's with three men that I genuinely love?

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Marriage regardless of one's sexual identity is still marriage between2 people. Marriages regardless sexuality are at heart about fidelity, an intimacy which cannot be violated without serious consequence.

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That's very bigoted of you to limit a marriage to just two people.

There are 1000's of thruples and other polyamorous relationships that would disagree with you.

They are all about fidelity to each other and their union.

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I know this is tongue in cheek but it's also true.

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It is tongue-in-check and people may FEEL it's true but any sex outside a marriage is adultery. That is a sin. No matter if it is approved/allowed by the other spouse.

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Not sure I ever said otherwise. You're not going to find a lot of Christian based faiths that count it as not a sin. But many, many things are sins.

Waco1947 said:

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Marriage is between people regardless of sexuality and the Bible is clear - marriage is monogamous and its integrity is based fidelity.

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It's so "clear" that probably 90% of posters here would disagree with your definition. Super super clear.

Waco1947 said:

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Marriage is between people regardless of sexuality and the Bible is clear - marriage is monogamous and its integrity is based fidelity.

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FIFY - Marriage is the lifelong commitment between man and woman ordered toward the good of the spouses and the procreation and education of their offspring.

Why get married? If you want to be a Tomcat, then be a Tomcat.

Waco1947 said:

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Marriage is between people regardless of sexuality

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No it isn't. The two person structure and monogamy itself was built upon the uniting of a man and woman. That is a Biblical and historical fact.

Marriage is between 2 people regardless of sexuality and the Bible is clear - marriage is monogamous and its integrity is based fidelity.
Infidelity destroys that intimacy.

ATL Bear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Marriage is between people regardless of sexuality

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No it isn't. The two person structure and monogamy itself was built upon the uniting of a man and woman. That is a Biblical and historical fact.

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Interpretations have changed. Today is right now in this historical moment and this moments declares, "Marriage is between2 people regardless of sexuality. Jesus never said by way of command "love is between a man and woman." To try go back in time to 60-90 AD is impossible to know, but what we do know is the Jesus' was being descriptive in Mark 10 not prescriptive. Jesus was 1) responding to a question about divorce not marriage and 2) the only historical Jesus could be aware of was
2 people -- male and female.
To give Jesus the power as to know the 21st century is a not true to the understanding of sexuality now.
But what I do know unequivocally is
"Marriage is between 2 people regardless of sexuality is that Jesus valued relationships and gave instruction as to how to live those values, in relationship and discipleship."

Living out your discipleship values does not exit the door on this board. The silliness of ad hominin jokes betrays your discipleship (if you are a Christian)

Waco1947 said:

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Open marriage is Not a marriage.

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truth- two who become one..

Those that abuse in marriage, that is not marriage. Those that cheat in marriage, that is not marriage.

Marriage is a covenant bond. That bond should not be broken. A husband should treat his wife with love and respect. A wife should treat her husband with love and respect. any abuse or straying outside the marriage is against Gods design. However, forgiveness is part of the plan and is included in that better and worse part of the vows.

There is no room for selfishness in a marriage. The best marriages are where the spouse tries to out cherish and honor the other spouse.

Weak marriages are those that are driven by selfish desires.

Waco1947 said:

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Marriage is between 2 people regardless of sexuality and the Bible is clear - marriage is monogamous and its integrity is based fidelity.
Infidelity destroys that intimacy.

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When the left and democrats inevitably support multiple partners, which many already do, will you be against them?

Christian Marriage is a committed relationship between one man and one woman.

Other arrangements may work for people, but it's not Christian Marriage.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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Christian Marriage is a committed relationship between one man and one woman.

Other arrangements may work for people, but it's not Christian Marriage.

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That's really well put.

JXL said:

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My wife would open me up with a carving knife if I were to suggest such a thing (not that I would).

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As much as I planned to make this an outage giggle, #metoo

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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Why get married? If you want to be a Tomcat, then be a Tomcat.

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Honestly? I'm s there a better kind of cat.

nein51 said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Christian Marriage is a committed relationship between one man and one woman.

Other arrangements may work for people, but it's not Christian Marriage.

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That's really well put.

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Thank you. I would add also a relationship where one spouse abuses the other is not Christian Marriage either.

Waco1947 said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Waco1947 said:

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Marriage is between people regardless of sexuality

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No it isn't. The two person structure and monogamy itself was built upon the uniting of a man and woman. That is a Biblical and historical fact.

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Interpretations have changed. Today is right now in this historical moment and this moments declares, "Marriage is between2 people regardless of sexuality. Jesus never said by way of command "love is between a man and woman." To try go back in time to 60-90 AD is impossible to know, but what we do know is the Jesus' was being descriptive in Mark 10 not prescriptive. Jesus was 1) responding to a question about divorce not marriage and 2) the only historical Jesus could be aware of was
2 people -- male and female.
To give Jesus the power as to know the 21st century is a not true to the understanding of sexuality now.
But what I do know unequivocally is
"Marriage is between 2 people regardless of sexuality is that Jesus valued relationships and gave instruction as to how to live those values, in relationship and discipleship."

Living out your discipleship values does not exit the door on this board. The silliness of ad hominin jokes betrays your discipleship (if you are a Christian)

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This is a warped, unbiblical and anti historical take. You're welcome to interpret whatever you want through a modern liberal social prism, but at least acknowledge it as such.