Harrison Bergeron said:

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The race between a Clintonian Democrat and a radical extremist.

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Trump being the Clintonian democrat of course.

KaiBear said:

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J.R. said:

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If JR hates, let the Trump train roll!

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JR's ONE thing about fat boy is I know he is not good for us and you people buy his lies hook line and sinker. Did I mention he is a convicted fellon, twice impeached, lost the Presidency, House and Senate, Narcist, ***** chaser, lier, cheat and stealer. Biden is terrible and not qualified. Trump is not qualified either. Any you boys want more of that? Just unbelievable . Enjoy.

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Trump is too old to be president.

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This.

We have a minimum age to be elected, we need a maximum age to be elected.

I had preferred age 75, but with the possibility of 2 terms I am starting to think age 70 should be the cutoff
for a presidents first term on election day. That still means theoretically we could have a 79 year old president, by the time Jan 20th rolls around which is pushing too old in itself.

boognish_bear said:

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Surprised nothing about abortion was mentioned...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/concise-trump-approved-gop-platform-not-crafted-biden-dem-disarray-mind

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I am not. He views it as a State issue, rightly so.

Wangchung said:

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J.R. said:

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4th and Inches said:

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If JR hates, let the Trump train roll!

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JR's ONE thing about fat boy is I know he is not good for us and you people buy his lies hook line and sinker. Did I mention he is a convicted fellon, twice impeached, lost the Presidency, House and Senate, Narcist, ***** chaser, lier, cheat and stealer. Any you boys want more of that? Just unbelievable . Enjoy.

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Twice acquitted, so those impeachments mean nothing. Just ask Bill Clinton. Has not been convicted of any felonies, yet. Lost less of the house and senate than Obama did. Definitely a narcissist and ***** chaser. Far less a liar than an exaggerator. Hasn't cheated or stolen anything but your election result denial makes you an insurrectionist, and hoisted by your own party's petard.

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I have little issue with Clinton.

Yes, he screwed around. If we eliminated everyone that screwed around on their wife or husband we would have very few to choose from and no one that would want the job. You have to be a narcissist to the 10th level to want to be POTUS. You think Musk, Bezos, and most of Wall Street isn't screwing around? Slap his hand, move on...

He at least worked at really balancing the budget and was able to find a working relationship with Congress. Slimy as hell, but he was a good Administrator.

FLBear5630 said:

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Wangchung said:

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J.R. said:

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4th and Inches said:

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If JR hates, let the Trump train roll!

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JR's ONE thing about fat boy is I know he is not good for us and you people buy his lies hook line and sinker. Did I mention he is a convicted fellon, twice impeached, lost the Presidency, House and Senate, Narcist, ***** chaser, lier, cheat and stealer. Any you boys want more of that? Just unbelievable . Enjoy.

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Twice acquitted, so those impeachments mean nothing. Just ask Bill Clinton. Has not been convicted of any felonies, yet. Lost less of the house and senate than Obama did. Definitely a narcissist and ***** chaser. Far less a liar than an exaggerator. Hasn't cheated or stolen anything but your election result denial makes you an insurrectionist, and hoisted by your own party's petard.

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I have little issue with Clinton.

Yes, he screwed around. If we eliminated everyone that screwed around on their wife or husband we would have very few to choose from and no one that would want the job. You have to be a narcissist to the 10th level to want to be POTUS. You think Musk, Bezos, and most of Wall Street isn't screwing around? Slap his hand, move on...

He at least worked at really balancing the budget and was able to find a working relationship with Congress. Slimy as hell, but he was a good Administrator.

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He was forced to negotiate with Newt Gingrich and his economy was falsely inflated by the dotcom bubble. His administration also gave us the housing crash thanks to their idea that everyone should have a home, even those who didn't pay their rent, while allowing Barney Frank's boyfriend to run rampant at Fanny Mae. The reason his perjury mattered was the fact he had so many legitimate sexual assault claims against him that came before he ran for president, meaning the accusers were not women who suddenly remembered decades later that they had been assaulted when he became a contender for a position of power, as we have seen democrats produce out of thin air repeatedly, but actual victims who tried to get justice when the attacks occurred.

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We've now elevated party platforms from goals to "promises?" Good to know; we're gonna get some great "promises" from the Ds I'm sure.

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The article said there is a GOP platform....but the GOP created this bulleted list of promises since they think most voters aren't going to click on the platform and read all the way through it.

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Old Bill was a pretty good president

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GOP in his second term delivered the results, not him.

Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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The race between a Clintonian Democrat and a radical extremist.

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Trump being the Clintonian democrat of course.

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He was a catd carrying democrat till he saw how void of leadership the republican party had become.

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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Old Bill was a pretty good president

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GOP in his second term delivered the results, not him.

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Give credit to who ever you want. He was the president. I didn't vote for him but he had measurable results. Repubs attacked him for a bj then turn around and vote for Trump
Lol

While I like the list I don't expect Trump to do any of it. He had 4 years to fix the border and did less than an average democrat does

Some people will believe anything.

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While I like the list I don't expect Trump to do any of it. He had 4 years to fix the border and did less than an average democrat does

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On the other hand, you can count on Biden to perpetuate the same bad policies of the last 4 years. Which do you prefer, Reagan?

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Some people will believe anything.

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You're an astute guy. Yes, I am sure everyone on this thread believes every one of these positions will come to fruition, since anyone voting for Trump (as opposed to the gay libertarian or the wokester with dementia) is a MAGA propaganda-guzzling moron. Thank you for telling us the truth, oh wise sage.

LOL.

It's a party platform. Anyone that knows anything about politics knows the parties throw these things out every 4 years. Anyone with knowledge of politics also knows that only some of these may come to fruition, but many will not.

But any purported conservative with even a redneck's brain should know that regardless, it is still very much preferable to the alternative.

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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Old Bill was a pretty good president

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GOP in his second term delivered the results, not him.

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Give credit to who ever you want. He was the president. I didn't vote for him but he had measurable results. Repubs attacked him for a bj then turn around and vote for Trump
Lol

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Depends on whether you credit congress for results, or the president (or both). Sounds like you only believe the credit (or blame) should go to the president, which is of course no surprise for a binary thinker such as yourself.

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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The race between a Clintonian Democrat and a radical extremist.

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Trump being the Clintonian democrat of course.

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He was a catd carrying democrat till he saw how void of leadership the republican party had become.

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Wait a sec...

I thought he was a far right Nazi and will usher in the downfall of the Republic with his far right policies and authoritarianism. Which is it? Or can't you guys decide?

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KaiBear said:

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Johnny Bear said:

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KaiBear said:

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J.R. said:

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If JR hates, let the Trump train roll!

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JR's ONE thing about fat boy is I know he is not good for us and you people buy his lies hook line and sinker. Did I mention he is a convicted fellon, twice impeached, lost the Presidency, House and Senate, Narcist, ***** chaser, lier, cheat and stealer. Biden is terrible and not qualified. Trump is not qualified either. Any you boys want more of that? Just unbelievable . Enjoy.

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Trump is too old to be president.

But in reality the choice is open borders with all the hell that comes with it.

Or border control.

In reality the choice is getting involved in still another war ..........or stay the hell out of one.

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Age in and of itself is just a number - that of course ultimately impacts everyone blessed to live a long life - but the question is when the impact is great enough to prohibit the ability to do certain tough and challenging jobs with POTUS obviously being among the toughest and most challenging. It's beyond obvious that the ravages of age have greatly impacted Biden, who wasn't fit to be POTUS in 2020 and it's only gotten progressively worse since. On the other hand, you can hate on Trump all you want but the guy is still clearly sharp, energetic, articulate, and still tough enough to effectively deal with the tremendous problems we face (mostly caused by the Biden Administration) - despite not being that much younger than Biden.

And the rest of your post is spot on. Our only hoping and our only choice is Trump.

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Trump is the only choice until the Dems dump Biden and replace him with a much younger, articulate, and aggressive candidate.

Most likely either the governor of Michigan, Pennsylvania or California.

Then In comparison Trump will look like an aged, overweigh
Uncle Buck and the Dems will win.

Republicans can not, will not face the reality that although Trump has good policies, he is hated by at least 35% of the electorate. And most independents are looking for any excuse to avoid another 4 years of listening to him.

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Agreed, with the exception of Harris. I don't believe she can win against Trump.

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I get it that it's still possible Biden could be dumped and replaced, but time is rapidly running out for the dims and there are multiple obstacles/problems with doing this in addition to dealing with the HUGE identity politics/DEI corner they painted themselves into with Harris. The dims incredible lust for power at all costs is real and they might yet find a way to pull off a switcheroo at the last minute, but it grows more and more unlikely by the day with Biden showing no signs of voluntarily stepping down.

Johnny Bear said:

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Mothra said:

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KaiBear said:

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Johnny Bear said:

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KaiBear said:

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J.R. said:

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4th and Inches said:

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If JR hates, let the Trump train roll!

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JR's ONE thing about fat boy is I know he is not good for us and you people buy his lies hook line and sinker. Did I mention he is a convicted fellon, twice impeached, lost the Presidency, House and Senate, Narcist, ***** chaser, lier, cheat and stealer. Biden is terrible and not qualified. Trump is not qualified either. Any you boys want more of that? Just unbelievable . Enjoy.

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Trump is too old to be president.

But in reality the choice is open borders with all the hell that comes with it.

Or border control.

In reality the choice is getting involved in still another war ..........or stay the hell out of one.

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Age in and of itself is just a number - that of course ultimately impacts everyone blessed to live a long life - but the question is when the impact is great enough to prohibit the ability to do certain tough and challenging jobs with POTUS obviously being among the toughest and most challenging. It's beyond obvious that the ravages of age have greatly impacted Biden, who wasn't fit to be POTUS in 2020 and it's only gotten progressively worse since. On the other hand, you can hate on Trump all you want but the guy is still clearly sharp, energetic, articulate, and still tough enough to effectively deal with the tremendous problems we face (mostly caused by the Biden Administration) - despite not being that much younger than Biden.

And the rest of your post is spot on. Our only hoping and our only choice is Trump.

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Trump is the only choice until the Dems dump Biden and replace him with a much younger, articulate, and aggressive candidate.

Most likely either the governor of Michigan, Pennsylvania or California.

Then In comparison Trump will look like an aged, overweigh
Uncle Buck and the Dems will win.

Republicans can not, will not face the reality that although Trump has good policies, he is hated by at least 35% of the electorate. And most independents are looking for any excuse to avoid another 4 years of listening to him.

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Agreed, with the exception of Harris. I don't believe she can win against Trump.

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I get it that it's still possible Biden could be dumped and replaced, but time is rapidly running out for the dims and there are multiple obstacles/problems with doing this in addition to dealing with the HUGE identity politics/DEI corner they painted themselves into with Harris. The dims incredible lust for power at all costs is real and they might yet find a way to pull off a switcheroo at the last minute, but it grows more and more unlikely by the day with Biden showing no signs of voluntarily stepping down.

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Don't disagree with this. The longer this goes, the more difficult it will be for the Dems.

I am just glad that for once, it is not the Repubs being castigated as the party of dysfunction.

Wangchung said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Wangchung said:

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J.R. said:

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4th and Inches said:

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If JR hates, let the Trump train roll!

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JR's ONE thing about fat boy is I know he is not good for us and you people buy his lies hook line and sinker. Did I mention he is a convicted fellon, twice impeached, lost the Presidency, House and Senate, Narcist, ***** chaser, lier, cheat and stealer. Any you boys want more of that? Just unbelievable . Enjoy.

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Twice acquitted, so those impeachments mean nothing. Just ask Bill Clinton. Has not been convicted of any felonies, yet. Lost less of the house and senate than Obama did. Definitely a narcissist and ***** chaser. Far less a liar than an exaggerator. Hasn't cheated or stolen anything but your election result denial makes you an insurrectionist, and hoisted by your own party's petard.

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I have little issue with Clinton.

Yes, he screwed around. If we eliminated everyone that screwed around on their wife or husband we would have very few to choose from and no one that would want the job. You have to be a narcissist to the 10th level to want to be POTUS. You think Musk, Bezos, and most of Wall Street isn't screwing around? Slap his hand, move on...

He at least worked at really balancing the budget and was able to find a working relationship with Congress. Slimy as hell, but he was a good Administrator.

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He was forced to negotiate with Newt Gingrich and his economy was falsely inflated by the dotcom bubble. His administration also gave us the housing crash thanks to their idea that everyone should have a home, even those who didn't pay their rent, while allowing Barney Frank's boyfriend to run rampant at Fanny Mae. The reason his perjury mattered was the fact he had so many legitimate sexual assault claims against him that came before he ran for president, meaning the accusers were not women who suddenly remembered decades later that they had been assaulted when he became a contender for a position of power, as we have seen democrats produce out of thin air repeatedly, but actual victims who tried to get justice when the attacks occurred.

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But he did negotiate. We have seen 15 years of "forced environment" and how many times did either Obama, Trump or Biden get it done?

So, he was able to manipulate the lending rates from the White House? How did he do that, Executive Order? Decades of Massive deregulation didn't play a roll? Greed is Good didn't play a roll? It was Clinton giving a speech saying everyone should be able to live the American Dream. That was what did it... Really?

You mention the .COM economy, but what did Clinton do with the surplus? He balanced the budget. When he had the opportunity, he did it. He reappointed Greenspan. There was good luck involved, but bottomline is that when he had the opportunity he did it. I would take that in a heart beat over what we have today and I would take the Lewinsky scandal over Trump's 4 years of bickering and tweets.

Mothra said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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The race between a Clintonian Democrat and a radical extremist.

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Trump being the Clintonian democrat of course.

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He was a catd carrying democrat till he saw how void of leadership the republican party had become.

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Wait a sec...

I thought he was a far right Nazi and will usher in the downfall of the Republic with his far right policies and authoritarianism. Which is it? Or can't you guys decide?

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So how do you tbink he has done so far? Biden was the 2nd weakest politician in history and defeated Trump. He barely beat HC , the weakest in history.

America is in trouble. We need leadership not clows and invalids

Running the same candidate thst has been defeated by a Biden is not dysfunctional? Surely you jest. Trump defeated HC.,the weakest candidate of all time. Biden the third weakest beat Trump. So the repubs let him control the party and run him again. Good job.

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Running the same candidate thst has been defeated by a Biden is not dysfunctional? Surely you jest. Trump defeated HC.,the weakest candidate of all time. Biden the third weakest beat Trump. So the repubs let him control the party and run him again. Good job.

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Trump got more votes than any republican in history.

He's currently polling better than he ever has.

FLBear5630 said:

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Wangchung said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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Wangchung said:

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J.R. said:

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4th and Inches said:

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If JR hates, let the Trump train roll!

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JR's ONE thing about fat boy is I know he is not good for us and you people buy his lies hook line and sinker. Did I mention he is a convicted fellon, twice impeached, lost the Presidency, House and Senate, Narcist, ***** chaser, lier, cheat and stealer. Any you boys want more of that? Just unbelievable . Enjoy.

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Twice acquitted, so those impeachments mean nothing. Just ask Bill Clinton. Has not been convicted of any felonies, yet. Lost less of the house and senate than Obama did. Definitely a narcissist and ***** chaser. Far less a liar than an exaggerator. Hasn't cheated or stolen anything but your election result denial makes you an insurrectionist, and hoisted by your own party's petard.

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I have little issue with Clinton.

Yes, he screwed around. If we eliminated everyone that screwed around on their wife or husband we would have very few to choose from and no one that would want the job. You have to be a narcissist to the 10th level to want to be POTUS. You think Musk, Bezos, and most of Wall Street isn't screwing around? Slap his hand, move on...

He at least worked at really balancing the budget and was able to find a working relationship with Congress. Slimy as hell, but he was a good Administrator.

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He was forced to negotiate with Newt Gingrich and his economy was falsely inflated by the dotcom bubble. His administration also gave us the housing crash thanks to their idea that everyone should have a home, even those who didn't pay their rent, while allowing Barney Frank's boyfriend to run rampant at Fanny Mae. The reason his perjury mattered was the fact he had so many legitimate sexual assault claims against him that came before he ran for president, meaning the accusers were not women who suddenly remembered decades later that they had been assaulted when he became a contender for a position of power, as we have seen democrats produce out of thin air repeatedly, but actual victims who tried to get justice when the attacks occurred.

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But he did negotiate. We have seen 15 years of "forced environment" and how many times did either Obama, Trump or Biden get it done?

So, he was able to manipulate the lending rates from the White House? How did he do that, Executive Order? Decades of Massive deregulation didn't play a roll? Greed is Good didn't play a roll? It was Clinton giving a speech saying everyone should be able to live the American Dream. That was what did it... Really?

You mention the .COM economy, but what did Clinton do with the surplus? He balanced the budget. When he had the opportunity, he did it. He reappointed Greenspan. There was good luck involved, but bottomline is that when he had the opportunity he did it. I would take that in a heart beat over what we have today and I would take the Lewinsky scandal over Trump's 4 years of bickering and tweets.

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It wasn't the lenders that created the rules and requirements for subprime lending, they were simply beholden to them. As a mortgage loan officer I and everyone in my company refused to do subprime loans and sent such borrowers to other brokers. The failures of Barney's boyfriend at Fannie Mae were used to create more bureaucracy through the Dodds-Frank act once their failures were exposed.
Clinton was a serial sex offender before he took office. Exposing his lies as he took advantage of a 22 year old intern, getting blowjobs and shoving cigars in her vagina in the Oval Office, meant something to his past victims. It meant something for our justice system. He got on television and lied and was properly impeached when his perjury was exposed. Preferring an actual sexual predator over prosperity for the country because of your political bias is crazy.

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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Mothra said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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The race between a Clintonian Democrat and a radical extremist.

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Trump being the Clintonian democrat of course.

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He was a catd carrying democrat till he saw how void of leadership the republican party had become.

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Wait a sec...

I thought he was a far right Nazi and will usher in the downfall of the Republic with his far right policies and authoritarianism. Which is it? Or can't you guys decide?

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So how do you tbink he has done so far? Biden was the 2nd weakest politician in history and defeated Trump. He barely beat HC , the weakest in history.

America is in trouble. We need leadership not clows and invalids

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So, you judge the success of a presidency by who defeats a president in an election? Huh. Wish I could say I was surprised by your criteria, but it's not all that surprising given the source.

I judge a presidency by the policies that were instituted, the policies that were prevented, the economy, the judicial appointments and foreign policy, and in particular, the wars and skirmishes happening around the world and our involvement in same. In that regard, I thought Trump's first two years were pretty good for our country. Economy was booming. He didn't involve us in any foreign wars. Nominated good, conservative justices who followed our constitution. Tried to end some of the woke bull**** permeating the govt. Did an ok job with immigration, though it left a lot to be desired. Wasn't happy with his fiscal policy, and thought he spent too much money, but he wasn't all that different from previous Republican admins.

And then COVID and the BLM riots happened. Economy tanked due to COVID, and massive amounts of money were spent to try and keep us from going into a depression. I hated that, though I think Trump was only partly to blame. All in all - it resulted in a mixed bag, with some good, some bad.

Now, when considering who was a better president as between Trump and Biden, I then consider the same criteria under Biden. And in this case, no reasonable, actual conservative - even those who can't stand Trump - can say that Biden is preferable to Trump when we consider the aforementioned criteria. In almost every single category listed above, we are far worse off. Illegal immigration is out of control. Biden's policies have more than doubled the illegal immigrants entering the country. The world is an absolute mess. Russia is at war with Ukraine, and in a proxy war with us. Israel is at war with Palestine, and in a proxy war with Iran. Iran is making nuclear weapons. NK is making nuclear weapons. China is threatening Taiwan. I mean, from a foreign policy standpoint, Biden has been a total ****ing disaster. Inflation has increased dramatically. Cost of living has increased dramatically. Woke policies continue to be his agenda. And the cherry on the sundae is he is a senile 80 year old suffering from dementia (if not worse).

So, a reasonable conservative must ask himself, which of the foregoing do I prefer? The self-aggrandizing hothead who I can't stand personally, but whose policies were decent, and in some instances, pretty good for the country and the conservative cause, or is it the senile geriatric patient who is nothing more than a puppet for the left at this point, has increased cost of living and inflation, has created a sieve at the border, and who is fighting a proxy war with Russia while the rest of the world goes mad?

Again, the answer for any reasonable conservative is simple.

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Running the same candidate thst has been defeated by a Biden is not dysfunctional? Surely you jest. Trump defeated HC.,the weakest candidate of all time. Biden the third weakest beat Trump. So the repubs let him control the party and run him again. Good job.

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Read my post again, and quote for me where I said (or even implied) the Repubs weren't likewise dysfunctional.

Sorry. Its 1 am in Hua Hin. Will read tomorrow.

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boognish_bear said:

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Surprised nothing about abortion was mentioned...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/concise-trump-approved-gop-platform-not-crafted-biden-dem-disarray-mind

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3) End Inflation . How's he going to do that? Now, this is where is BS starts. He is not a smart man. Just how is he going to do that? He ran up more deficits that Biden. He want to tariff everything. Tarriffs are nothing more than a tax on the middle class yall like to clamor about. He had a hand in the inflation also.

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This is my single biggest fear of the proposed Trump economy. I still don't think Trump understands who pays the tariffs. Have heard it mentioned on more than one occasion that he wants to tariff ALL imported goods by ten percent. Hope someone in his cabinet talks him out of this. Inflation will jump 10 percent overnight. This will allow domestic producers to raise prices. Trump should target products that are being dumped into the U.S. , not all products!!

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Of course he understands who pays the tariffs. And it's not a 100% consumer equation. Additionally, tariffs on the right products can help maintain industry or develop industry domestically. Absolutely no reason American workers should have to compete against slave labor in other countries. Not arguing for massive tariffs across the board of course. Just that there is a cost to communities when all our "industry" dollars go up to globalist corporation execs and other slave labor countries. Trumps economy was booming, he certainly deserves credit because every liberal globalist economist predicted doom and gloom. They were wrong, and it took exploiting a pandemic to stop him.

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so, you good with paying triple for your phone? Seriously, man. You willing to pay double for your jeans? You good with paying double from what you buy from Wally World? Them the facts. I ran many a factories in Asia and Mexico back in the day. Sound great from you people who have no clue what they are talking about. Now, there are many products we could on shore , but they are very high technology and niche. Most all Semis are fabed in Taiwan (particularly AI), which is risky. It is just not that simple, my man. Merca damnit. You guys sound like a bunch of Democrats which is very ironic.

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JR, you prove to be an idiot nearly every other post. Sending 75% of manufacturing or whatever industry you want out our country in the name of globalism impacts communities and standard of living. Americans aren't necessarily living better because we've turned over our communities to globalist corporations. Nobody is saying tariffs have to be across the board or all at once. Again, if corporations are allowed to buy from slave labor countries, why do we not allow it here? Rhetorical of course, we know why we don't allow it, so why should American workers compete with those that do.
Tariffs aren't necessarily bad when used to protect from predators, and many of these countries effectively are. Keeping the money local and domestic can actually reduce prices over time and increase the standard of living in communities. It's a long term perspective.

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ah....you just showed your ass. You have zero idea relative to the no-sense you just spewed. Have you ever done business internationally? Have you ever run factories in Mexico, US, and Asia. Until you do, get back to me . No need to call names. Get your **** together, son.

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While I like the list I don't expect Trump to do any of it. He had 4 years to fix the border and did less than an average democrat does

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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The race between a Clintonian Democrat and a radical extremist.

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Trump being the Clintonian democrat of course.

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He was a catd carrying democrat till he saw how void of leadership the republican party had become.

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Wait a sec...

I thought he was a far right Nazi and will usher in the downfall of the Republic with his far right policies and authoritarianism. Which is it? Or can't you guys decide?

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As I have said - the dims and LWNJ create a complete reality depending on the issue at hand.

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Surprised nothing about abortion was mentioned...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/concise-trump-approved-gop-platform-not-crafted-biden-dem-disarray-mind

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3) End Inflation . How's he going to do that? Now, this is where is BS starts. He is not a smart man. Just how is he going to do that? He ran up more deficits that Biden. He want to tariff everything. Tarriffs are nothing more than a tax on the middle class yall like to clamor about. He had a hand in the inflation also.

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This is my single biggest fear of the proposed Trump economy. I still don't think Trump understands who pays the tariffs. Have heard it mentioned on more than one occasion that he wants to tariff ALL imported goods by ten percent. Hope someone in his cabinet talks him out of this. Inflation will jump 10 percent overnight. This will allow domestic producers to raise prices. Trump should target products that are being dumped into the U.S. , not all products!!

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Of course he understands who pays the tariffs. And it's not a 100% consumer equation. Additionally, tariffs on the right products can help maintain industry or develop industry domestically. Absolutely no reason American workers should have to compete against slave labor in other countries. Not arguing for massive tariffs across the board of course. Just that there is a cost to communities when all our "industry" dollars go up to globalist corporation execs and other slave labor countries. Trumps economy was booming, he certainly deserves credit because every liberal globalist economist predicted doom and gloom. They were wrong, and it took exploiting a pandemic to stop him.

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We can't do here what is done in manufacturing in many places around the world, and it has nothing to do with wages. Until we shore up our skills and education gap, work approach and regulatory requirements , we'll remain uncompetitive. A better objective would be to improve and expand trade agreements that open markets further for American products. Besides, tech, robotics, and AI are the real wage and job killers, even felt across China and other global output markets.

But I am fascinated by this "eat the rich" tenor that's become a cornerstone of some of the Trump populism. Used to be the hallowed ground of leftists.

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seriously, some of these magas sound like democrats. You are correct is that we do not have the skilled manufacturing labor in the US to do it. it is not slave labor and whom ever said that is clueless. Factory jobs in China are highly sought after as most factories provide dorms and food daily. Their skill set is far superior to ours, particularly for the labor costs. (I ran many of those big factories in Shenzhen and many other places depending on product. Again, you Wally World democrats would flip your ship is we made all that stuff here. Wally World would be done. You maga dems continue to ***** and moan about inflation and bring back our manufacturing jobs, but want the lowest prices in the world. Doesn't work this way. Again, I will ask the question to you maga dems. Are you willing to pay $4000 for an iPhone or Android? That is what it would be if made in the US

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The race between a Clintonian Democrat and a radical extremist.

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Trump being the Clintonian democrat of course.

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He was a catd carrying democrat till he saw how void of leadership the republican party had become.

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or the Dems went more left than he cared for…. There are alot of old school dems that are now indies or repulican voters because of the lefts progressive movement.

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boognish_bear said:

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Surprised nothing about abortion was mentioned...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/concise-trump-approved-gop-platform-not-crafted-biden-dem-disarray-mind

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anyone believe this total bull*****

1) Most everyone thinks this is rational. We need immigration, but not illegal immigration. Follow the rules. 2 of Trumpy's wife's are immigrants

2) Ok with that if it is just. Need a better plan. The folks that have been here for years, working their ass off , providing service for us fortunate need some discompensation.

3) End Inflation . How's he going to do that? Now, this is where is BS starts. He is not a smart man. Just how is he going to do that? He ran up more deficits that Biden. He want to tariff everything. Tarriffs are nothing more than a tax on the middle class yall like to clamor about. He had a hand in the inflation also.

4) Again, he has no idea what is talking about as he continually pulls stuff out his ass. We are currently the #1 producer. *** is he talking about?

5) Again , just ill informed and not smart. Stopping outsourcing ain't happening because it is not financially viable. We gonna do textiles here, sneakers? Ironically what Maga doesn't get is that they buy that bull**** , but they want to go to Wally World and get the cheapest prices... Guess what? That crap isn't made here. Is mr and mrs Maga gonna pay 50% more to have there ****e made in the good ole Usa? no. Yall want to pay double for an iPhone? Very incongruent .

6) screw that. They should pay the same as everyone else. that is nothing more than pandering for votes

7) No that is just laughable. Spoken like a true Autocrat

8)and just how will he do that? What the hell does made in Merca mean?

9) King fat boy is the queen of weaponization

10) just how is gonna do that? Just hyperbole

11) how he gonna do that?

12) Armed

13) Agreed, but how

14) Agreed

15) Agreed

16) sounds great, but how

17) agree, but a waste of time. Bigger fish to fry

18) how do you determine that? you can't . not. possible

19) what freaking joke

20) yeah, he's a real uniter.

What ****ing POS and a fraud. If any of you are buying this crap..I'm sorry.

I have to give a POS credit that is a convicted felon, twice impeached, lost the presidency and both house and senate and some of you think this is ok, irrelative to his contender. If Biden stays is, Trump runs away. If the dems can get Biden out, and replaced with some remotely qualified, Trump is done. I don't think the Dems have the balls. They will lose in a big way, down ballot also.

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Your point number 1 just proves further that your brain is like mashed potatoes. I'd say stop posting but honestly your posts are a great reminder of the type of nonsense that Dems will say to misrepresent a political point.

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you handle is fitting. You don't think we need legal immigration ? Yeah, I'm going to take economic advise from a freaking preacher man. Come on preacher, stick to your knitting.

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Surprised nothing about abortion was mentioned...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/concise-trump-approved-gop-platform-not-crafted-biden-dem-disarray-mind

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anyone believe this total bull*****

1) Most everyone thinks this is rational. We need immigration, but not illegal immigration. Follow the rules. 2 of Trumpy's wife's are immigrants

2) Ok with that if it is just. Need a better plan. The folks that have been here for years, working their ass off , providing service for us fortunate need some discompensation.

3) End Inflation . How's he going to do that? Now, this is where is BS starts. He is not a smart man. Just how is he going to do that? He ran up more deficits that Biden. He want to tariff everything. Tarriffs are nothing more than a tax on the middle class yall like to clamor about. He had a hand in the inflation also.

4) Again, he has no idea what is talking about as he continually pulls stuff out his ass. We are currently the #1 producer. *** is he talking about?

5) Again , just ill informed and not smart. Stopping outsourcing ain't happening because it is not financially viable. We gonna do textiles here, sneakers? Ironically what Maga doesn't get is that they buy that bull**** , but they want to go to Wally World and get the cheapest prices... Guess what? That crap isn't made here. Is mr and mrs Maga gonna pay 50% more to have there ****e made in the good ole Usa? no. Yall want to pay double for an iPhone? Very incongruent .

6) screw that. They should pay the same as everyone else. that is nothing more than pandering for votes

7) No that is just laughable. Spoken like a true Autocrat

8)and just how will he do that? What the hell does made in Merca mean?

9) King fat boy is the queen of weaponization

10) just how is gonna do that? Just hyperbole

11) how he gonna do that?

12) Armed

13) Agreed, but how

14) Agreed

15) Agreed

16) sounds great, but how

17) agree, but a waste of time. Bigger fish to fry

18) how do you determine that? you can't . not. possible

19) what freaking joke

20) yeah, he's a real uniter.

What ****ing POS and a fraud. If any of you are buying this crap..I'm sorry.

I have to give a POS credit that is a convicted felon, twice impeached, lost the presidency and both house and senate and some of you think this is ok, irrelative to his contender. If Biden stays is, Trump runs away. If the dems can get Biden out, and replaced with some remotely qualified, Trump is done. I don't think the Dems have the balls. They will lose in a big way, down ballot also.

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This is one of the most moderate platforms in the history of the GOP, and I would say most Americans support each of these positions. Yet you are in hysterics about it.

As a self-professed moderate, let go of the the Trump hatred for a moment and try to appreciate that. And then remember what your alternative is.

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not hysterical at all. Just calling out bull***** If you noticed, there was much agreed with. Got to call Trumpy out on lies, not that he wrote this as he couldn't . Agee that is softer in tone. Abortion bans are toned down. IVF off the table now. How that was on the table , I will never know.

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J.R. said:

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Surprised nothing about abortion was mentioned...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/concise-trump-approved-gop-platform-not-crafted-biden-dem-disarray-mind

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3) End Inflation . How's he going to do that? Now, this is where is BS starts. He is not a smart man. Just how is he going to do that? He ran up more deficits that Biden. He want to tariff everything. Tarriffs are nothing more than a tax on the middle class yall like to clamor about. He had a hand in the inflation also.

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This is my single biggest fear of the proposed Trump economy. I still don't think Trump understands who pays the tariffs. Have heard it mentioned on more than one occasion that he wants to tariff ALL imported goods by ten percent. Hope someone in his cabinet talks him out of this. Inflation will jump 10 percent overnight. This will allow domestic producers to raise prices. Trump should target products that are being dumped into the U.S. , not all products!!

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Of course he understands who pays the tariffs. And it's not a 100% consumer equation. Additionally, tariffs on the right products can help maintain industry or develop industry domestically. Absolutely no reason American workers should have to compete against slave labor in other countries. Not arguing for massive tariffs across the board of course. Just that there is a cost to communities when all our "industry" dollars go up to globalist corporation execs and other slave labor countries. Trumps economy was booming, he certainly deserves credit because every liberal globalist economist predicted doom and gloom. They were wrong, and it took exploiting a pandemic to stop him.

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We can't do here what is done in manufacturing in many places around the world, and it has nothing to do with wages. Until we shore up our skills and education gap, work approach and regulatory requirements , we'll remain uncompetitive. A better objective would be to improve and expand trade agreements that open markets further for American products. Besides, tech, robotics, and AI are the real wage and job killers, even felt across China and other global output markets.

But I am fascinated by this "eat the rich" tenor that's become a cornerstone of some of the Trump populism. Used to be the hallowed ground of leftists.

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seriously, some of these magas sound like democrats. You are correct is that we do not have the skilled manufacturing labor in the US to do it. it is not slave labor and whom ever said that is clueless.

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Maybe they just sound like Republicans?

The GOP was a party literally created to build up industry with protective tariffs (keeping out foreign cheaply produced goods)

They disliked slavery in the South (or should we say opposed it in the new territories) precisely because it was as threat to increasing the wages of working class Whites.

[The Republican Party in the 1800s supported business and industry with a protective tariff and hard money policies.]

[During the presidential election of 1860, the Republican Party promised to prohibit slavery in the territories. They also proposed free-homestead legislation, the establishment of a daily mail service, a transcontinental railroad, and support of the protective tariff.]

In fact more Republicans today than say independents or Democrats say we should bring back some form of protective tariff to support national manufacturing.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/913391/share-americans-support-raising-tariffs-steel-aluminum-party/

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If JR hates, let the Trump train roll!

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JR's ONE thing about fat boy is I know he is not good for us and you people buy his lies hook line and sinker. Did I mention he is a convicted fellon, twice impeached, lost the Presidency, House and Senate, Narcist, ***** chaser, lier, cheat and stealer. Biden is terrible and not qualified. Trump is not qualified either. Any you boys want more of that? Just unbelievable . Enjoy.

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Trump is too old to be president.

But in reality the choice is open borders with all the hell that comes with it.

Or border control.

In reality the choice is getting involved in still another war ..........or stay the hell out of one.

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Age in and of itself is just a number - that of course ultimately impacts everyone blessed to live a long life - but the question is when the impact is great enough to prohibit the ability to do certain tough and challenging jobs with POTUS obviously being among the toughest and most challenging. It's beyond obvious that the ravages of age have greatly impacted Biden, who wasn't fit to be POTUS in 2020 and it's only gotten progressively worse since. On the other hand, you can hate on Trump all you want but the guy is still clearly sharp, energetic, articulate, and still tough enough to effectively deal with the tremendous problems we face (mostly caused by the Biden Administration) - despite not being that much younger than Biden.

And the rest of your post is spot on. Our only hoping and our only choice is Trump.

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Trump is the only choice until the Dems dump Biden and replace him with a much younger, articulate, and aggressive candidate.

Most likely either the governor of Michigan, Pennsylvania or California.

Then In comparison Trump will look like an aged, overweigh
Uncle Buck and the Dems will win.

Republicans can not, will not face the reality that although Trump has good policies, he is hated by at least 35% of the electorate. And most independents are looking for any excuse to avoid another 4 years of listening to him.

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Agreed, with the exception of Harris. I don't believe she can win against Trump.

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Agreed

And the Dem power brokers are also very aware of Harris's poll numbers and overall un likability . So she will not be the Dem nominee although Trump probably wishes she was.

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J.R. said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Surprised nothing about abortion was mentioned...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/concise-trump-approved-gop-platform-not-crafted-biden-dem-disarray-mind

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anyone believe this total bull*****

1) Most everyone thinks this is rational. We need immigration, but not illegal immigration. Follow the rules. 2 of Trumpy's wife's are immigrants

2) Ok with that if it is just. Need a better plan. The folks that have been here for years, working their ass off , providing service for us fortunate need some discompensation.

3) End Inflation . How's he going to do that? Now, this is where is BS starts. He is not a smart man. Just how is he going to do that? He ran up more deficits that Biden. He want to tariff everything. Tarriffs are nothing more than a tax on the middle class yall like to clamor about. He had a hand in the inflation also.

4) Again, he has no idea what is talking about as he continually pulls stuff out his ass. We are currently the #1 producer. *** is he talking about?

5) Again , just ill informed and not smart. Stopping outsourcing ain't happening because it is not financially viable. We gonna do textiles here, sneakers? Ironically what Maga doesn't get is that they buy that bull**** , but they want to go to Wally World and get the cheapest prices... Guess what? That crap isn't made here. Is mr and mrs Maga gonna pay 50% more to have there ****e made in the good ole Usa? no. Yall want to pay double for an iPhone? Very incongruent .

6) screw that. They should pay the same as everyone else. that is nothing more than pandering for votes

7) No that is just laughable. Spoken like a true Autocrat

8)and just how will he do that? What the hell does made in Merca mean?

9) King fat boy is the queen of weaponization

10) just how is gonna do that? Just hyperbole

11) how he gonna do that?

12) Armed

13) Agreed, but how

14) Agreed

15) Agreed

16) sounds great, but how

17) agree, but a waste of time. Bigger fish to fry

18) how do you determine that? you can't . not. possible

19) what freaking joke

20) yeah, he's a real uniter.

What ****ing POS and a fraud. If any of you are buying this crap..I'm sorry.

I have to give a POS credit that is a convicted felon, twice impeached, lost the presidency and both house and senate and some of you think this is ok, irrelative to his contender. If Biden stays is, Trump runs away. If the dems can get Biden out, and replaced with some remotely qualified, Trump is done. I don't think the Dems have the balls. They will lose in a big way, down ballot also.

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Your point number 1 just proves further that your brain is like mashed potatoes. I'd say stop posting but honestly your posts are a great reminder of the type of nonsense that Dems will say to misrepresent a political point.

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you handle is fitting. You don't think we need legal immigration ? Yeah, I'm going to take economic advise from a freaking preacher man. Come on preacher, stick to your knitting.

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No your point #1 is either disingenuous or the ramblings of a block head. Nobody is arguing that we need to halt all legal immigration. I mean if you don't get that, you're not smart enough to comment on the rest.