Second Gunman - listen to the different sounds

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7:38a, 7/21/24


This is a 30 minute video.
1. The first 15 minutes talk about, with verifying images, where Crooks's position was (right side of roof if looking from Trump's position.) And how every news media is reporting that he was on the far left... which is perfectly inline with an elevated open window in the building behind.

2. If the 1st shot that grazes Trump's ear comes from Crooks's actual position, it still impacts Trump's skull.

3. And this is the big one: Go to the 16:00 minute mark where they start talking about the sounds and listen for yourself. The first 3 are very distinct (sounds made from inside the window.) Which then is followed by the patsy's 5 shots out in the open.

I'm listening to another that sums it up as 'if Jordan misses 10 wide open layups, you know he's intentionally throwing. Two? Maybe okay. But 10?? No way unless he is trying to miss.' The secret service missed 10 wide open layups in this.

The different sounds are unmistakable. Go listen for yourself.
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8:48a, 7/21/24
After listening to the analysis of recorded video, it's clear that two different shooters in two different locations fired at Trump. The .gov explanation of a single lone wolf shooter is going up in smoke in real time. It's a good thing we don't have to wait decades for a film to be released showing the public that they are lying.
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In reply to Realitybites • 9:39a, 7/21/24
They had a good plan... for the 20th century & before.

But cell phones are undoing them.
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In reply to Realitybites • 9:44a, 7/21/24
Realitybites said:
The .gov explanation of a single lone wolf shooter is going up in smoke in real time.
Not really. It has endured for 61 years!
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In reply to RD2WINAGNBEAR86 • 9:51a, 7/21/24
RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Realitybites said:
The .gov explanation of a single lone wolf shooter is going up in smoke in real time.
Not really. It has endured for 61 years!


Exactly
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12:59p, 7/22/24
Better (fuller) analysis of the very different sounds of the 2 sets of shots.


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1:06p, 7/22/24
Looked like two anti-snipers on one roof and one sniper on the other. That's three guns.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

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1:10p, 7/22/24
oh come on, the SS Director can put this conspiracy to rest....right? Right??

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In reply to Wangchung • 1:36p, 7/22/24
Wangchung said:
Looked like two anti-snipers on one roof and one sniper on the other. That's three guns.


That doesnt address the first 8 shots and the very different sounds and measured distance traveled of the first 3 versus the next 5.

The anti-sniper that killed him was like 10 seconds after the 8 shots. It was the 10th shot.

(It is unclear what the 9th shot is...shot at the end of the shots 4-8. Possibly a 2nd anti-sniper. But that shot is different as well.)
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2:53p, 7/22/24
Why do all the news agencies keep saying Crooks was on the very far left edge of that building? He wasnt close to that spot (directly below the open 2nd story window of the building behind).

Aerial footage and many photos place him way over on the right. Many congressmen going to check it out all spend their entire time checking out the correct position, where his body was...on the far right.
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3:14p, 7/22/24
You guys are going to run wild with theories. A guy wanted to kill Trump and almost did, but that's not bad enough to satisfy a glutton of shock and outrage, so getting the government in on it is the next obvious step.

This is one case where they mostly deserve this treatment, due to the inconceivable incompetence they and the local police force displayed. I don't think Secret Service plus local cops teamed up on Trump, but that they did the worst job possible.

So theorize away, they deserve the full efforts of the modern right wing conspiracy machine.
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In reply to Porteroso • 3:41p, 7/22/24
Porteroso said:
You guys are going to run wild with theories. A guy wanted to kill Trump and almost did, but that's not bad enough to satisfy a glutton of shock and outrage, so getting the government in on it is the next obvious step.

This is one case where they mostly deserve this treatment, due to the inconceivable incompetence they and the local police force displayed. I don't think Secret Service plus local cops teamed up on Trump, but that they did the worst job possible.

So theorize away, they deserve the full efforts of the modern right wing conspiracy machine.

Secret Service (the "elite" of the elite) are not able to stand on slightly inclined roofs that middle age men scale every weekend? Nothing to question about that? This is a conspiracy to you?
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In reply to Jack Bauer • 4:06p, 7/22/24
Jack Bauer said:
Porteroso said:
You guys are going to run wild with theories. A guy wanted to kill Trump and almost did, but that's not bad enough to satisfy a glutton of shock and outrage, so getting the government in on it is the next obvious step.

This is one case where they mostly deserve this treatment, due to the inconceivable incompetence they and the local police force displayed. I don't think Secret Service plus local cops teamed up on Trump, but that they did the worst job possible.

So theorize away, they deserve the full efforts of the modern right wing conspiracy machine.

Secret Service (the "elite" of the elite) are not able to stand on slightly inclined roofs that middle age men scale every weekend? Nothing to question about that? This is a conspiracy to you?

The implication of a second gunman are that the Secret Service also shot at Trump, or are hiding the identity of a second shooter.

By the way, depending on whether this kid had a suppressor or not, he may have had subsonic loaded for a shot or 2, then high powered if the first failed. He didn't use a suppressor, but he may have been forced to shoot before he was ready. There are several reasons shots from the same gun could sound different. Different ammo, on purpose or by accident or happenstance, is one...
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In reply to Porteroso • 5:30p, 7/22/24
Porteroso said:
Jack Bauer said:
Porteroso said:
You guys are going to run wild with theories. A guy wanted to kill Trump and almost did, but that's not bad enough to satisfy a glutton of shock and outrage, so getting the government in on it is the next obvious step.

This is one case where they mostly deserve this treatment, due to the inconceivable incompetence they and the local police force displayed. I don't think Secret Service plus local cops teamed up on Trump, but that they did the worst job possible.

So theorize away, they deserve the full efforts of the modern right wing conspiracy machine.

Secret Service (the "elite" of the elite) are not able to stand on slightly inclined roofs that middle age men scale every weekend? Nothing to question about that? This is a conspiracy to you?

The implication of a second gunman are that the Secret Service also shot at Trump, or are hiding the identity of a second shooter.

By the way, depending on whether this kid had a suppressor or not, he may have had subsonic loaded for a shot or 2, then high powered if the first failed. He didn't use a suppressor, but he may have been forced to shoot before he was ready. There are several reasons shots from the same gun could sound different. Different ammo, on purpose or by accident or happenstance, is one...


1. I dont buy that.
2. Doesnt explain away the measurable difference in distance the 1st 3 shots traveled vs the 2nd 5 shots.
3. The roof was too steep??

Someone made it very easy for a pro to get in a good 1st shot. Thank God Trump turned his head.
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In reply to Porteroso • 5:31p, 7/22/24
Porteroso said:
Jack Bauer said:
Porteroso said:
You guys are going to run wild with theories. A guy wanted to kill Trump and almost did, but that's not bad enough to satisfy a glutton of shock and outrage, so getting the government in on it is the next obvious step.

This is one case where they mostly deserve this treatment, due to the inconceivable incompetence they and the local police force displayed. I don't think Secret Service plus local cops teamed up on Trump, but that they did the worst job possible.

So theorize away, they deserve the full efforts of the modern right wing conspiracy machine.

Secret Service (the "elite" of the elite) are not able to stand on slightly inclined roofs that middle age men scale every weekend? Nothing to question about that? This is a conspiracy to you?

The implication of a second gunman are that the Secret Service also shot at Trump, or are hiding the identity of a second shooter.

By the way, depending on whether this kid had a suppressor or not, he may have had subsonic loaded for a shot or 2, then high powered if the first failed. He didn't use a suppressor, but he may have been forced to shoot before he was ready. There are several reasons shots from the same gun could sound different. Different ammo, on purpose or by accident or happenstance, is one...


And yes. That's what we're implying... the gunMEN had help from someone in the SS.
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10:20a, 7/24/24
Wife just told me they reported they found 8 shells on the roof by the patsy.

If true, that tells me he was alone. Shots 9 & 10 (10 for sure) seem like they were from the anti-snipers.
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In reply to Married A Horn • 10:21a, 7/24/24
Married A Horn said:
Wife just told me they reported they found 8 shells on the roof by the patsy.

If true, that tells me he was alone. Shots 9 & 10 (10 for sure) seem like they were from the anti-snipers.


That information could have been useful, say, in a press confetence from Cheatle the very next day.
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In reply to Jack Bauer • 10:41a, 7/24/24
Jack Bauer said:
Porteroso said:
You guys are going to run wild with theories. A guy wanted to kill Trump and almost did, but that's not bad enough to satisfy a glutton of shock and outrage, so getting the government in on it is the next obvious step.

This is one case where they mostly deserve this treatment, due to the inconceivable incompetence they and the local police force displayed. I don't think Secret Service plus local cops teamed up on Trump, but that they did the worst job possible.

So theorize away, they deserve the full efforts of the modern right wing conspiracy machine.

Secret Service (the "elite" of the elite) are not able to stand on slightly inclined roofs that middle age men scale every weekend? Nothing to question about that? This is a conspiracy to you?
Not to be insulting here, but looking at the folks that escorted Trump to his get away SUV, physically at least, there were several surrounding Trump that were far from elite.

At least with presidential detail that **** needs to end today.
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In reply to Married A Horn • 5:07p, 7/24/24
Married A Horn said:
Wife just told me they reported they found 8 shells on the roof by the patsy.

If true, that tells me he was alone. Shots 9 & 10 (10 for sure) seem like they were from the anti-snipers.

The fact that he had explosives, and had looked up Biden's rallies, tells me he may have really thought he'd get away with it and be ready for a second attempt at someone else.

I think only someone confident in his skills, and owning a suppressor, would think they could take 1 shot and get away with it. And at 130 yards, subsonic for 3 rounds, then super for the rest of the magazine, makes all the sense.
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