US national debt reaches $35 trillion

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J.R.
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Inflation is how the wealthy keeps paying a $40,000/yr worker near that same $40,000 forever, just the illusion of increases via pay raises in inflated dollars.
Over the the last 4 years, the average Joe's salaries are just not keeping up. Will be a long long while before their salaries can catch up to the recent inflation.
you need some schooling on basic economics.
TinFoilHatPreacherBear
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J.R. said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Inflation is how the wealthy keeps paying a $40,000/yr worker near that same $40,000 forever, just the illusion of increases via pay raises in inflated dollars.
Over the the last 4 years, the average Joe's salaries are just not keeping up. Will be a long long while before their salaries can catch up to the recent inflation.
you need some schooling on basic economics.


Considering I've had a considerable amount of schoolimg exactly in macro, micro, international economics, which part does your rather limited intellect not understand?
hodedofome
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

J.R. said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Inflation is how the wealthy keeps paying a $40,000/yr worker near that same $40,000 forever, just the illusion of increases via pay raises in inflated dollars.
Over the the last 4 years, the average Joe's salaries are just not keeping up. Will be a long long while before their salaries can catch up to the recent inflation.
you need some schooling on basic economics.


Considering I've had a considerable amount of schoolimg exactly in macro, micro, international economics, which part does your rather limited intellect not understand?
I work in finance for small businesses and I can concur that it's certainly true what you say about certain industries. They are doing very small raises for their workers but nothing to keep up with inflation. Meanwhile they've taken PPP, EIDL loans and ERTC credits and lined their pockets, along with raising their prices to keep up with inflation.

The owners have done very well while the workers are hurting.

I had a small Amazon side business where I made about $35k in revenue per year. I could have gotten a PPP loan of $40k that would have been 100% forgiven if I wanted. I decided against it, just didn't seem right.
historian
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Too bad more businessmen, and especially politicians, don't have that level of integrity.
boognish_bear
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Ok....let's pay down that principal by $10 billion...

boognish_bear
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BearFan33
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boognish_bear said:


We don't have an income problem, we have a spending problem.
ScottS
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BearFan33 said:

boognish_bear said:


We don't have an income problem, we have a spending problem.
No worries, Biden and Harris will take care of it.
historian
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The way banana republics take care of economic crises…
J.R.
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

J.R. said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Inflation is how the wealthy keeps paying a $40,000/yr worker near that same $40,000 forever, just the illusion of increases via pay raises in inflated dollars.
Over the the last 4 years, the average Joe's salaries are just not keeping up. Will be a long long while before their salaries can catch up to the recent inflation.
you need some schooling on basic economics.


Considering I've had a considerable amount of schoolimg exactly in macro, micro, international economics, which part does your rather limited intellect not understand?
your schoolimg obviously didn't take. I'd venture to say my academic background and career history says I kinda know what im doing.
hodedofome
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JR always quick to say he's an expert and everyone else an idiot without ever giving much facts.

He's consistent at lying though.
J.R.
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hodedofome said:

JR always quick to say he's an expert and everyone else an idiot without ever giving much facts.

He's consistent at lying though.
No, I only opine when I have a level of competence . I do not comment when I have no idea relative to the subject matter. (which is a lot)
TinFoilHatPreacherBear
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J.R. said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

J.R. said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Inflation is how the wealthy keeps paying a $40,000/yr worker near that same $40,000 forever, just the illusion of increases via pay raises in inflated dollars.
Over the the last 4 years, the average Joe's salaries are just not keeping up. Will be a long long while before their salaries can catch up to the recent inflation.
you need some schooling on basic economics.


Considering I've had a considerable amount of schoolimg exactly in macro, micro, international economics, which part does your rather limited intellect not understand?
your schoolimg obviously didn't take. I'd venture to say my academic background and career history says I kinda know what im doing.


Your arguments rarely indicate that you know much of anything. Based on your arguments, you rank just above the perinneal last place W47 and just below Mitch. Needless to say, that's not a very good spot to hold. Please do better with your education, whatever you claim that is.
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https://usadebtclock.com/

The numbers are moving faster than the scoreboard with a Briles offense.

But if you want to really need a change of underwear, take a look at the unfunded liabilities. 4x the national debt.

Default is coming. If you think medicare is going to be around for you like it was for the boomers, think again.
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boognish_bear said:

It's hard to even conceive of that much money. The national debt now seems like this fictitious imaginary almost comical number.


One of Trump's "fiscal conservative plans" has proven absolutely to be a disaster like many of his thoughts on the economy.

His administration gave us the 20 year bond that is piling on to our interest debt.

Since the Treasury (Mnuchin) re-introduced the 20 year bond in monthly auctions 4 years ago, their sale has tacked on $2 billion a year in interest expense on top of what the government would have otherwise paid.

That's an additional $40 billion over the life so now Mnuchin has called to end the aution of 20 year bonds.

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J.R.
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

J.R. said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

J.R. said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Inflation is how the wealthy keeps paying a $40,000/yr worker near that same $40,000 forever, just the illusion of increases via pay raises in inflated dollars.
Over the the last 4 years, the average Joe's salaries are just not keeping up. Will be a long long while before their salaries can catch up to the recent inflation.
you need some schooling on basic economics.


Considering I've had a considerable amount of schoolimg exactly in macro, micro, international economics, which part does your rather limited intellect not understand?
your schoolimg obviously didn't take. I'd venture to say my academic background and career history says I kinda know what im doing.


Your arguments rarely indicate that you know much of anything. Based on your arguments, you rank just above the perinneal last place W47 and just below Mitch. Needless to say, that's not a very good spot to hold. Please do better with your education, whatever you claim that is.
you are nothing but an effing moron. You consistently show your ass and your dearth of understand . You are a RWNJ and a whack job. go back to your menial tasks.
nein51
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There are no real fiscal conservatives left. They can't get or stay elected. You cannot compete with "free everything for everyone!"

"We are going to have to tax more and spend less" is a losing platform and everyone has figured that out.
TinFoilHatPreacherBear
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J.R. said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

J.R. said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

J.R. said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

Inflation is how the wealthy keeps paying a $40,000/yr worker near that same $40,000 forever, just the illusion of increases via pay raises in inflated dollars.
Over the the last 4 years, the average Joe's salaries are just not keeping up. Will be a long long while before their salaries can catch up to the recent inflation.
you need some schooling on basic economics.


Considering I've had a considerable amount of schoolimg exactly in macro, micro, international economics, which part does your rather limited intellect not understand?
your schoolimg obviously didn't take. I'd venture to say my academic background and career history says I kinda know what im doing.


Your arguments rarely indicate that you know much of anything. Based on your arguments, you rank just above the perinneal last place W47 and just below Mitch. Needless to say, that's not a very good spot to hold. Please do better with your education, whatever you claim that is.
you are nothing but an effing moron. You consistently show your ass and your dearth of understand . You are a RWNJ and a whack job. go back to your menial tasks.


I think it bothers you knowing that no one here thinks you're as smart as you do. Your posts are just bad and illogical. You are schooled regularly by everyone here. Being wrong is your super power.

If it wasn't for your ability to form a complete sentence, I'd assume you were a W47 sock.
boognish_bear
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historian
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boognish_bear
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I caught most of the debate tonight… But not 100% of it.

I did not see any questions to the candidates about the national debt. Did that happen?
boognish_bear
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Nothing to see here...

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Johnny Bear said:

More and more it seems like we talk about $trillions like not all that long ago we talked about $billions. And yes, the average person can't wrap their head around how much money $1 trillion dollars is, let alone 35 times that number.

That said if you want to watch it go to $70 trillion in the next 4 years then vote for Kamala and give her dim majorities in both the House and Senate.

Trump outspent Obama. Are you saying he won't outspend Biden?
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boognish_bear said:

Nothing to see here...




Goes up another trillion every 100 days.

It's simply not sustainable.
boognish_bear
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KaiBear said:

boognish_bear said:

Nothing to see here...




Goes up another trillion every 100 days.

It's simply not sustainable.


I hope the Trump administration seriously takes it on…
KaiBear
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boognish_bear said:

KaiBear said:

boognish_bear said:

Nothing to see here...




Goes up another trillion every 100 days.

It's simply not sustainable.


I hope the Trump administration seriously takes it on…
Its impossible.

Too many campaign promises have been made.

Besides every politician knows that to do what's needed to the balance the budget would result in their party getting voted out of office.




We have met the enemy....and he is us.

Pogo
FLBear5630
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KaiBear said:

boognish_bear said:

KaiBear said:

boognish_bear said:

Nothing to see here...




Goes up another trillion every 100 days.

It's simply not sustainable.


I hope the Trump administration seriously takes it on…
Its impossible.

Too many campaign promises have been made.

Besides every politician knows that to do what's needed to the balance the budget would result in their party beening voted out of office.




We have met the enemy....and he is us.

Pogo
Even if Musk is right and can get the cuts done AND there are no replacements for the cut Agencies/Services, taxes are not going down anytime soon.

It is getting insurmountable.
KaiBear
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FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

boognish_bear said:

KaiBear said:

boognish_bear said:

Nothing to see here...




Goes up another trillion every 100 days.

It's simply not sustainable.


I hope the Trump administration seriously takes it on…
Its impossible.

Too many campaign promises have been made.

Besides every politician knows that to do what's needed to the balance the budget would result in their party beening voted out of office.




We have met the enemy....and he is us.

Pogo
Even if Musk is right and can get the cuts done AND there are no replacements for the cut Agencies/Services, taxes are not going down anytime soon.

It is getting insurmountable.
Trump has repeatedly promised tax cuts.......he has to deliver.
FLBear5630
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KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

boognish_bear said:

KaiBear said:

boognish_bear said:

Nothing to see here...




Goes up another trillion every 100 days.

It's simply not sustainable.


I hope the Trump administration seriously takes it on…
Its impossible.

Too many campaign promises have been made.

Besides every politician knows that to do what's needed to the balance the budget would result in their party beening voted out of office.




We have met the enemy....and he is us.

Pogo
Even if Musk is right and can get the cuts done AND there are no replacements for the cut Agencies/Services, taxes are not going down anytime soon.

It is getting insurmountable.
Trump has repeatedly promised tax cuts.......he has to deliver.

Tax cuts for both personal and business of, plus pay down debt, plus build the wall, and reorganize the Govt by paying off thousands?

Gonna be interesting times. Tariffs, right?
KaiBear
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Tariffs work or Biden would not have kept Trumps
boognish_bear
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Fre3dombear
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KaiBear said:

Tariffs work or Biden would not have kept Trumps


No no no. See you don't get it. Tariffs are now inflationary.

Orange tariffs inflationary. Ruhtarded tariffs good.
boognish_bear
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J.R.
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Fre3dombear said:

KaiBear said:

Tariffs work or Biden would not have kept Trumps


No no no. See you don't get it. Tariffs are now inflationary.

Orange tariffs inflationary. Ruhtarded tariffs good.

Please explain how tariffs are not inflationary
 
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