Civil unrest in the UK

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cms186 said:

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there arent any current figures that i can find, but the figures from 2021 put the number of people who couldnt speak any English at all at 0.3% of the population, there are obviously areas of the country where that rate is higher, but if the 2021 number is that far off, then the 2025 number isnt going to be any more accurate, note how he also doesnt post a source for any of this

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11485151/Census-reveals-160-000-people-England-Wales-speak-English.html


He is a member of Parliament and one would presume he has more accurate and even classified UK government info than you do.

Not to mention this…

[People using the 2021 census as Facts haven't taken into account almost 3 million people between 2022/2023/2024 have arrived in the UK since the census. Meaning the census is not a reliable figure for today]
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cms186 said:

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as per usual, the truth hasnt been told, theyve both been bailed


The man peacefully burning a book he owned (before being attacked by a knife wielding psychopath) should never have been arrested at all….
Burning a Koran is well known to incite aggressive actions by Muslims, I dont personally understand (surely a God couldnt give a **** if someone who didnt believe in him burnt one of his books? but whatever) and obviously dont condone any actions they take, but if you want to get hurt, then burning a Koran in front of an embassy of a majority Islam nation seems a fairly good way of doing it, this was not a peaceful action at all, it was done in incite Violence.
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Redbrickbear said:

cms186 said:

Redbrickbear said:


there arent any current figures that i can find, but the figures from 2021 put the number of people who couldnt speak any English at all at 0.3% of the population, there are obviously areas of the country where that rate is higher, but if the 2021 number is that far off, then the 2025 number isnt going to be any more accurate, note how he also doesnt post a source for any of this

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11485151/Census-reveals-160-000-people-England-Wales-speak-English.html


He is a member of Parliament and one would presume he has more accurate and even classified UK government info than you do.

Not to mention this…

[People using the 2021 census as Facts haven't taken into account almost 3 million people between 2022/2023/2024 have arrived in the UK since the census. Meaning the census is not a reliable figure for today]

Right and Politicians are well known for being Pillars of honesty and never saying something online which is untrue and cant be verified by any facts, right? Not to mention Rupert Lowe, regardless of his party affiliations, is a grade A Idiot, failed as a Football Club owner, so used his money to fall into Politics, no affiliation with the area he "represents" at all.

Also, I didn't say that the Census should be used to provide facts about today, I'm merely saying it proves that his claim about the 2021 number is untrue, so its fair to assume that his claim about the modern number probably isn't accurate either.
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cms186 said:

Redbrickbear said:

cms186 said:

Redbrickbear said:


as per usual, the truth hasnt been told, theyve both been bailed


The man peacefully burning a book he owned (before being attacked by a knife wielding psychopath) should never have been arrested at all….
Burning a Koran is well known to incite aggressive actions by Muslims, I dont personally understand (surely a God couldnt give a **** if someone who didnt believe in him burnt one of his books? but whatever) and obviously dont condone any actions they take, but if you want to get hurt, then burning a Koran in front of an embassy of a majority Islam nation seems a fairly good way of doing it, this was not a peaceful action at all, it was done in incite Violence.


The only person responsible for violence is the one who commits it

Burning a book you own is free speech period

No one has the right to try and kill another person for burning a book
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cms186 said:

Redbrickbear said:

cms186 said:

Redbrickbear said:


there arent any current figures that i can find, but the figures from 2021 put the number of people who couldnt speak any English at all at 0.3% of the population, there are obviously areas of the country where that rate is higher, but if the 2021 number is that far off, then the 2025 number isnt going to be any more accurate, note how he also doesnt post a source for any of this

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11485151/Census-reveals-160-000-people-England-Wales-speak-English.html


He is a member of Parliament and one would presume he has more accurate and even classified UK government info than you do.

Not to mention this…

[People using the 2021 census as Facts haven't taken into account almost 3 million people between 2022/2023/2024 have arrived in the UK since the census. Meaning the census is not a reliable figure for today]

Right and Politicians are well known for being Pillars of honesty and never saying something online which is untrue and cant be verified by any facts, right? .


You should investigate the possibility the official census figures are off by millions of people.






cms186
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Redbrickbear said:

cms186 said:

Redbrickbear said:

cms186 said:

Redbrickbear said:


as per usual, the truth hasnt been told, theyve both been bailed


The man peacefully burning a book he owned (before being attacked by a knife wielding psychopath) should never have been arrested at all….
Burning a Koran is well known to incite aggressive actions by Muslims, I dont personally understand (surely a God couldnt give a **** if someone who didnt believe in him burnt one of his books? but whatever) and obviously dont condone any actions they take, but if you want to get hurt, then burning a Koran in front of an embassy of a majority Islam nation seems a fairly good way of doing it, this was not a peaceful action at all, it was done in incite Violence.


The only person responsible for violence is the one who commits it

Burning a book you own is free speech period

No one has the right to try and kill another person for burning a book
Please point me to where i said anyone had the right to kill (or even harm) someone else for burning a book. I'll save you the time, i didnt.

If you do something, knowing full well that what you are doing is likely to prompt a violent response, then you are not blameless. This guy did what he did, knowing full well what a possible reaction to it was.
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cms186
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Redbrickbear said:

cms186 said:

Redbrickbear said:

cms186 said:

Redbrickbear said:


there arent any current figures that i can find, but the figures from 2021 put the number of people who couldnt speak any English at all at 0.3% of the population, there are obviously areas of the country where that rate is higher, but if the 2021 number is that far off, then the 2025 number isnt going to be any more accurate, note how he also doesnt post a source for any of this

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11485151/Census-reveals-160-000-people-England-Wales-speak-English.html


He is a member of Parliament and one would presume he has more accurate and even classified UK government info than you do.

Not to mention this…

[People using the 2021 census as Facts haven't taken into account almost 3 million people between 2022/2023/2024 have arrived in the UK since the census. Meaning the census is not a reliable figure for today]

Right and Politicians are well known for being Pillars of honesty and never saying something online which is untrue and cant be verified by any facts, right? .


You should investigate the possibility the official census figures are off by millions of people.







the first tweet, i cant find anything saying this, if you can find an actual link to someone from that service saying such a thing, that would be nice, rather than some random person saying its true and not backing it up with anything verifiable

the second video is from a well known Conspiracy theorist, but it is based on ONE news article from 2007 in the Independent wherein an Anonymous source from an unnamed Supermarket made these claims, do you even do a basic fact check on these random Tweets you post as backing your point of view? it took me 10 seconds of a cursory google search to find out this was a crock of *****

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cms186 said:

Redbrickbear said:

cms186 said:

Redbrickbear said:

cms186 said:

Redbrickbear said:


there arent any current figures that i can find, but the figures from 2021 put the number of people who couldnt speak any English at all at 0.3% of the population, there are obviously areas of the country where that rate is higher, but if the 2021 number is that far off, then the 2025 number isnt going to be any more accurate, note how he also doesnt post a source for any of this

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11485151/Census-reveals-160-000-people-England-Wales-speak-English.html


He is a member of Parliament and one would presume he has more accurate and even classified UK government info than you do.

Not to mention this…

[People using the 2021 census as Facts haven't taken into account almost 3 million people between 2022/2023/2024 have arrived in the UK since the census. Meaning the census is not a reliable figure for today]

Right and Politicians are well known for being Pillars of honesty and never saying something online which is untrue and cant be verified by any facts, right? .


You should investigate the possibility the official census figures are off by millions of people.







the first tweet, i cant find anything saying this, if you can find an actual link to someone from that service saying such a thing, that would be nice, rather than some random person saying its true and not backing it up with anything verifiable

the second video is from a well known Conspiracy theorist, but it is based on ONE news article from 2007 in the Independent wherein an Anonymous source from an unnamed Supermarket made these claims, do you even do a basic fact check on these random Tweets you post as backing your point of view? it took me 10 seconds of a cursory google search to find out this was a crock of *****




Looks like there is some debate on the matter..it's more than a mere conspiracy theory



https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/we-have-no-idea-how-many-people-are-living-in-britain/
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cms186 said:

Redbrickbear said:

cms186 said:

Redbrickbear said:

cms186 said:

Redbrickbear said:


as per usual, the truth hasnt been told, theyve both been bailed


The man peacefully burning a book he owned (before being attacked by a knife wielding psychopath) should never have been arrested at all….
Burning a Koran is well known to incite aggressive actions by Muslims, I dont personally understand (surely a God couldnt give a **** if someone who didnt believe in him burnt one of his books? but whatever) and obviously dont condone any actions they take, but if you want to get hurt, then burning a Koran in front of an embassy of a majority Islam nation seems a fairly good way of doing it, this was not a peaceful action at all, it was done in incite Violence.


The only person responsible for violence is the one who commits it

Burning a book you own is free speech period

No one has the right to try and kill another person for burning a book
Please point me to where i said anyone had the right to kill (or even harm) someone else for burning a book. I'll save you the time, i didnt.

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No…but you said something almost as facetious and cowardly.

"Burning a Koran is well known to incite aggressive actions by Muslims… but if you want to get hurt, then burning a Koran in front of an embassy of a majority Islam nation seems a fairly good way of doing it" -cms
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curtpenn said:

Hard to have imagined this happening, but there it is.




We have a long history of shooting British authorities, and those that did their bidding.
cms186
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Redbrickbear said:

cms186 said:

Redbrickbear said:

cms186 said:

Redbrickbear said:

cms186 said:

Redbrickbear said:


as per usual, the truth hasnt been told, theyve both been bailed


The man peacefully burning a book he owned (before being attacked by a knife wielding psychopath) should never have been arrested at all….
Burning a Koran is well known to incite aggressive actions by Muslims, I dont personally understand (surely a God couldnt give a **** if someone who didnt believe in him burnt one of his books? but whatever) and obviously dont condone any actions they take, but if you want to get hurt, then burning a Koran in front of an embassy of a majority Islam nation seems a fairly good way of doing it, this was not a peaceful action at all, it was done in incite Violence.


The only person responsible for violence is the one who commits it

Burning a book you own is free speech period

No one has the right to try and kill another person for burning a book
Please point me to where i said anyone had the right to kill (or even harm) someone else for burning a book. I'll save you the time, i didnt.

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No…but you said something almost as facetious and cowardly.

"Burning a Koran is well known to incite aggressive actions by Muslims… but if you want to get hurt, then burning a Koran in front of an embassy of a majority Islam nation seems a fairly good way of doing it" -cms

i dont think you know what the word "facetious" means, I pointed out a fact, its not a fact i like or am happy about, but its a fact nonetheless
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Redbrickbear said:

cms186 said:

Redbrickbear said:

cms186 said:

Redbrickbear said:

cms186 said:

Redbrickbear said:


there arent any current figures that i can find, but the figures from 2021 put the number of people who couldnt speak any English at all at 0.3% of the population, there are obviously areas of the country where that rate is higher, but if the 2021 number is that far off, then the 2025 number isnt going to be any more accurate, note how he also doesnt post a source for any of this

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11485151/Census-reveals-160-000-people-England-Wales-speak-English.html


He is a member of Parliament and one would presume he has more accurate and even classified UK government info than you do.

Not to mention this…

[People using the 2021 census as Facts haven't taken into account almost 3 million people between 2022/2023/2024 have arrived in the UK since the census. Meaning the census is not a reliable figure for today]

Right and Politicians are well known for being Pillars of honesty and never saying something online which is untrue and cant be verified by any facts, right? .


You should investigate the possibility the official census figures are off by millions of people.







the first tweet, i cant find anything saying this, if you can find an actual link to someone from that service saying such a thing, that would be nice, rather than some random person saying its true and not backing it up with anything verifiable

the second video is from a well known Conspiracy theorist, but it is based on ONE news article from 2007 in the Independent wherein an Anonymous source from an unnamed Supermarket made these claims, do you even do a basic fact check on these random Tweets you post as backing your point of view? it took me 10 seconds of a cursory google search to find out this was a crock of *****




Looks like there is some debate on the matter..it's more than a mere conspiracy theory



https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/we-have-no-idea-how-many-people-are-living-in-britain/

Even in that article (which starts off by referring to the Independent article i mentioned) it says that a possible reason for the discrepancies is fraud.
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cms186 said:

Redbrickbear said:

cms186 said:

Redbrickbear said:

cms186 said:

Redbrickbear said:

cms186 said:

Redbrickbear said:


as per usual, the truth hasnt been told, theyve both been bailed


The man peacefully burning a book he owned (before being attacked by a knife wielding psychopath) should never have been arrested at all….
Burning a Koran is well known to incite aggressive actions by Muslims, I dont personally understand (surely a God couldnt give a **** if someone who didnt believe in him burnt one of his books? but whatever) and obviously dont condone any actions they take, but if you want to get hurt, then burning a Koran in front of an embassy of a majority Islam nation seems a fairly good way of doing it, this was not a peaceful action at all, it was done in incite Violence.


The only person responsible for violence is the one who commits it

Burning a book you own is free speech period

No one has the right to try and kill another person for burning a book
Please point me to where i said anyone had the right to kill (or even harm) someone else for burning a book. I'll save you the time, i didnt.

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No…but you said something almost as facetious and cowardly.

"Burning a Koran is well known to incite aggressive actions by Muslims… but if you want to get hurt, then burning a Koran in front of an embassy of a majority Islam nation seems a fairly good way of doing it" -cms

i dont think you know what the word "facetious" means, I pointed out a fact, its not a fact i like or am happy about, but its a fact nonetheless


No I would say your remark fits the bill of being flippant

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[Here's how Tim Stanley's wonderful Telegraph interview with the irascible historian David Starkey begins:

David Starkey: 'I've witnessed the disintegration of everything that I loved in Britain'

Quote:

"I am an impertinent old bugger," says Dr David Starkey, "and I refuse to be shut up." I meet him at his London flat, sit and brace myself for a delicious, dizzying chat with the historian once dubbed "the rudest man in Britain". He speaks energetically and clearly, as if to the back of the class, in that "you need to know this" style he perfected on television.

The monarchy is "fading into irrelevance", he discloses. The King is woke. William is "hopeless... Nature intended him to be the manager of a second-division football team." (And he'd be "rather stretched at that".) Much blame lies with the late Queen, who was "obsessed about the Commonwealth" and spent too much time "sucking up to African dictators".
Between the gasps and laughs of every Starkey lecture shines a pertinent point. Britain was ruined by its elite; he thinks we need to undergo a "cultural restoration". The theme has resonance in his own life.
"Impertinent old bugger" is funny because Starkey is gay. He is also infamously politically incorrect, which got him massively cancelled a few years ago for an unwise racist remark.
Quote:

That happened in June 2020, during a silly podcast interview with pundit Darren Grimes; Starkey was asked about slavery and proactively lazily said that had it been as genocidal as some claim, the world wouldn't be full of "so many damn blacks". The slip was condemned. Organisations he'd worked with for years telephoned to give him five minutes to resign or be pushed.
He lost friends, his fellowship, his publisher, various honours and positions, and his literary agent, who, as fate would have it, was named Fairweather. The police opened an investigation, which they later dropped (Priti Patel, the home secretary at the time, advised the police to respect "freedom of speech"). It was "profoundly hurtful", yet "mixed with the most wonderful farce. Three guesses what was happening on that day? I was having a new fridge-freezer delivered. My universe collapsed and I was surrounded by decaying piles of frozen food."
He'd said such things before, so why on this occasion did he get the full Gulag treatment? He offers historical context: "This is 2020, the year of Covid-19, Black Lives Matter... George Floyd... The world went mad, and I was a very peripheral victim of it." I sense we're building up to the big question of what's going wrong with Britain and how he proposes to fix it.
Well, it was an obnoxious remark but then, as Stanley avers, this is how Starkey always rolled. His acidic judgments are part of what made him such a provocative and popular broadcaster and public intellectual....]
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cms186 said:

Redbrickbear said:

cms186 said:

Redbrickbear said:


as per usual, the truth hasnt been told, theyve both been bailed


The man peacefully burning a book he owned (before being attacked by a knife wielding psychopath) should never have been arrested at all….
Burning a Koran is well known to incite aggressive actions by Muslims, I dont personally understand (surely a God couldnt give a **** if someone who didnt believe in him burnt one of his books? but whatever) and obviously dont condone any actions they take, but if you want to get hurt, then burning a Koran in front of an embassy of a majority Islam nation seems a fairly good way of doing it, this was not a peaceful action at all, it was done in incite Violence.


I remember when Rick Monday killed the two guys burning the flag. He was right to do so because they purposely provoked an entire stadium.

Maybe My memory is a bit cloudy. Maybe he didn't kill anyone even after being provoked.



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Redbrickbear said:


That might be a good way to ship off all the child-raping Pakistanis....
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cms186 said:

Redbrickbear said:

cms186 said:

Redbrickbear said:

cms186 said:

Redbrickbear said:


as per usual, the truth hasnt been told, theyve both been bailed


The man peacefully burning a book he owned (before being attacked by a knife wielding psychopath) should never have been arrested at all….
Burning a Koran is well known to incite aggressive actions by Muslims, I dont personally understand (surely a God couldnt give a **** if someone who didnt believe in him burnt one of his books? but whatever) and obviously dont condone any actions they take, but if you want to get hurt, then burning a Koran in front of an embassy of a majority Islam nation seems a fairly good way of doing it, this was not a peaceful action at all, it was done in incite Violence.


The only person responsible for violence is the one who commits it

Burning a book you own is free speech period

No one has the right to try and kill another person for burning a book
Please point me to where i said anyone had the right to kill (or even harm) someone else for burning a book. I'll save you the time, i didnt.

If you do something, knowing full well that what you are doing is likely to prompt a violent response, then you are not blameless. This guy did what he did, knowing full well what a possible reaction to it was.
Under a law providing true free speech and expression, you bet your ass that you're completely blameless. Anything short of that is dictating what can and can't be expressed.

See you don't understand that today it's this scenario with burning the quarun. Tomorrow it's simply disagreement with the party in power that gets you in trouble with the law.

You don't understand freedom. You've actually never experienced it.
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whitetrash said:

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That might be a good way to ship off all the child-raping Pakistanis....

The regime in London will send off the White working class to fight first

(getting rid of a politically unreliable demographic and possible troublesome group)

The Pakistanis are reliable Leftwing voters....and won't go fight for the UK anyway
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Doc Holliday said:

cms186 said:

Redbrickbear said:

cms186 said:

Redbrickbear said:

cms186 said:

Redbrickbear said:


as per usual, the truth hasnt been told, theyve both been bailed


The man peacefully burning a book he owned (before being attacked by a knife wielding psychopath) should never have been arrested at all….
Burning a Koran is well known to incite aggressive actions by Muslims, I dont personally understand (surely a God couldnt give a **** if someone who didnt believe in him burnt one of his books? but whatever) and obviously dont condone any actions they take, but if you want to get hurt, then burning a Koran in front of an embassy of a majority Islam nation seems a fairly good way of doing it, this was not a peaceful action at all, it was done in incite Violence.


The only person responsible for violence is the one who commits it

Burning a book you own is free speech period

No one has the right to try and kill another person for burning a book
Please point me to where i said anyone had the right to kill (or even harm) someone else for burning a book. I'll save you the time, i didnt.

If you do something, knowing full well that what you are doing is likely to prompt a violent response, then you are not blameless. This guy did what he did, knowing full well what a possible reaction to it was.
Under a law providing true free speech and expression, you bet your ass that you're completely blameless. Anything short of that is dictating what can and can't be expressed.

See you don't understand that today it's this scenario with burning the quarun. Tomorrow it's simply disagreement with the party in power that gets you in trouble with the law.

You don't understand freedom. You've actually never experienced it.
To add, do you guys realize how short of a distance it is between charging someone for expression because it might hurt feelings and a party in power claiming that because they're on the side of protecting idpol groups, that any and all opposition to them is by default an expression of hate and a danger to the public which requires criminal charges?

If we could go to the UK many years ago and tell them that they will charge people for their speech, they would think you're insane. Now look where we're at. This is a real possibility in the future.
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Doc Holliday said:

Doc Holliday said:

cms186 said:

Redbrickbear said:

cms186 said:

Redbrickbear said:

cms186 said:

Redbrickbear said:


as per usual, the truth hasnt been told, theyve both been bailed


The man peacefully burning a book he owned (before being attacked by a knife wielding psychopath) should never have been arrested at all….
Burning a Koran is well known to incite aggressive actions by Muslims, I dont personally understand (surely a God couldnt give a **** if someone who didnt believe in him burnt one of his books? but whatever) and obviously dont condone any actions they take, but if you want to get hurt, then burning a Koran in front of an embassy of a majority Islam nation seems a fairly good way of doing it, this was not a peaceful action at all, it was done in incite Violence.


The only person responsible for violence is the one who commits it

Burning a book you own is free speech period

No one has the right to try and kill another person for burning a book
Please point me to where i said anyone had the right to kill (or even harm) someone else for burning a book. I'll save you the time, i didnt.

If you do something, knowing full well that what you are doing is likely to prompt a violent response, then you are not blameless. This guy did what he did, knowing full well what a possible reaction to it was.
Under a law providing true free speech and expression, you bet your ass that you're completely blameless. Anything short of that is dictating what can and can't be expressed.

See you don't understand that today it's this scenario with burning the quarun. Tomorrow it's simply disagreement with the party in power that gets you in trouble with the law.

You don't understand freedom. You've actually never experienced it.
To add, do you guys realize how short of a distance it is between charging someone for expression because it might hurt feelings and a party in power claiming that because they're on the side of protecting idpol groups, that any and all opposition to them is by default an expression of hate and a danger to the public which requires criminal charges?

If we could go to the UK many years ago and tell them that they will charge people for their speech, they would think you're insane. Now look where we're at. This is a real possibility in the future.

We were screaming that direction prior to November 2024
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Redbrickbear said:

whitetrash said:

Redbrickbear said:


That might be a good way to ship off all the child-raping Pakistanis....

The regime in London will send off the White working class to fight first

(getting rid of a politically unreliable demographic and possible troublesome group)

The Pakistanis are reliable Leftwing voters....and won't go fight for the UK anyway

It will accelerate the Great Replacement in the UK.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
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The UK is once again proving that there is no legitimate basis for outlawing "hate speech": it's a fascist, totalitarian device to censor people for thinking things the freaks in power don't like.

Censorship is the opposite of free speech.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
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1776 decisions look better every day
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Robert Wilson said:

1776 decisions look better every day


The decision of the anti-Federalists to demand a Bill of Rights looks better and better
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Redbrickbear said:

Robert Wilson said:

1776 decisions look better every day


The decision of the anti-Federalists to demand a Bill of Rights looks better and better
no kidding
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Typical fascist: he means free speech for me but not for thee.
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Redbrickbear said:

Robert Wilson said:

1776 decisions look better every day


The decision of the anti-Federalists to demand a Bill of Rights looks better and better

That has been true from the beginning.
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Will the UK legalize child rape?

Britain Creeping Toward Legalizing Child Rape

https://hotair.com/david-strom/2025/02/27/britain-creeping-toward-legalizing-child-rape-n3800253
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Redbrickbear said:


Wild, I just explained that to a european just a few posts before this. Literally said they don't know what freedom is.

I've spent a lot of time in the UK and Brussels. From my personal experience, they view society in a collectivist manner, not individualism like we practice in the US.
 
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