Kamala Harris to Institute Price Controls on Food & Groceries!

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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https://time.com/7011214/kamala-harris-campaign-federal-ban-price-gouging-food-groceries-inflation/cash

Price controls will create food shortages. But perhaps that is the end game.

What are the 11 million+ "newcomers" going to eat?
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Harrison Bergeron
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She's a moron. But the other rich elite will vote for her because they do not have to suffer her stupidity.
midgett
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Few policies are more inflationary than price controls.

The explanation is so simple yet few people understand.

The only hope is that so many companies go out of business that consumer spending drops enough to decrease demand. But don't look behind the curtain. Millions will be out of jobs with all the great economic benefits of higher unemployment.
hodedofome
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Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it.

She's an idiot, but we all knew that.
nein51
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They are running a commercial on repeat about how they have introduced a bill to stop shrinkflation
EatMoreSalmon
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Conservative ideals tend toward building a robust economy with capitalism strengthened and natural cycles allowed to run. Liberal ideals tend to mooch off the robust economy and put quick and dirty patches on problems. Those patches also collapse harder and make things worse longer (see New Deal).
Wangchung
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Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

KaiBear
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Price controls never work in a peacetime economy.

But Harris's constituents don't know that.
And it sounds cool.

Win/Win
BUDOS
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Agreed!
boognish_bear
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How has Trump not coined Commie Kamala yet....or Kommiela? Or maybe I just missed it.
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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BUDOS said:

Agreed!

Your girl is dumber than a stump! Can you imagine a game of Chess between Kamala and AOC?
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU
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I am sure I will get called names for not falling in lime but aren't tarrifs a form of price controls that penalizes consumers and help incompetent union factories?

I am certainly not defending dem price controls

I am all for letting capitalism work.
I have found theres only two ways to go:
Living fast or dying slow.
I dont want to live forever.
But I will live while I'm here.
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I am sure I will get called names for not falling in lime but aren't tarrifs a form of price controls that penalizes consumers and help incompetent union factories?

I am certainly not defending dem price controls

I am all for letting capitalism work.
Falling in lime? Are you a tequila shot?

All kidding aside, I agree with you on tariffs. They are a tax on Americans and American companies. To this day, I don't think Donald Trump understands this.
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU
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lol falling in LINE but I wont change it. Good job Ready.
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Wangchung
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I am sure I will get called names for not falling in lime but aren't tarrifs a form of price controls that penalizes consumers and help incompetent union factories?

I am certainly not defending dem price controls

I am all for letting capitalism work.
Only if we pretend that cheaper made products from child labor are superior to American made products.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

Limited IQ Redneck in PU
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So the tarriffs are put in place to protect us from inferior products made by children overseas? Poor little kids thst work in the steel and auto industries?
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Living fast or dying slow.
I dont want to live forever.
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LOL.....

what a 'plan'!

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Johnny Bear
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She is actually accusing grocers - who routinely operate on margins less than 2% - of "price gouging" and trying to scapegoat them for the inflation dementia Joe and her economic policies have directly caused. She is such a despicable liar.
Limited IQ Redneck in PU
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Major chains like HEB and Walmart groceries are sold on a !-2% margin. Smaller neighborhood markets sell on a much higher margin. Believe it or not some people cant just hop in a car and drive 15 miles one way to enjoy the prices at large chains.

Government imposed price controls are not the answer, whether you are talking bread and eggs or cars and steel.
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Living fast or dying slow.
I dont want to live forever.
But I will live while I'm here.
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If you are staying, I would recommend bibles, bullion, beans, and bullets.

It is going to get that bad.

November 2024 is your last chance to get out there and vote every democrat you can get your hands on out of office. The fix may already be in. But without a massive purge of the left, its going to be Venezuela.
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I am sure I will get called names for not falling in lime but aren't tarrifs a form of price controls that penalizes consumers and help incompetent union factories?

I am certainly not defending dem price controls

I am all for letting capitalism work.
Are you trying to equate that because Trump is going after Tarrifs then he has an equivalent price control policy compared to Harris on this subject? If so, that's ridiculous.

If we have a free trade policy toward others, but they don't have a free trade policy towards us, meaning we don't create tariffs, but they do…tell me how that's a good thing.
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DG has a higher op mgn abt 5.5% but much lower asset turnover (1.28) = abt a 7% ROA.

KR has much higher asset turnover (3.0x) BUT lower mrgns (2%) = giving them a 6% ROA.

Neither one's ROA is terribly high......

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And no, price controls on grocers aren't the answer.....
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I am sure I will get called names for not falling in lime but aren't tarrifs a form of price controls that penalizes consumers and help incompetent union factories?

I am certainly not defending dem price controls

I am all for letting capitalism work.
Yes, tariffs are inherently bad and usually inflationary.

Trump wants them (bad) and Kamala has mentioned them too (bad). I suspect you are only trying to point out Trump's mentioning of them.
Limited IQ Redneck in PU
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You would be correct to suspect that. All the political knowledge/news I get is from Doc,Bear Rammage andTyM. He never said anything about KH placing tarriffs on anything.
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Doc Holliday said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I am sure I will get called names for not falling in lime but aren't tarrifs a form of price controls that penalizes consumers and help incompetent union factories?

I am certainly not defending dem price controls

I am all for letting capitalism work.
Are you trying to equate that because Trump is going after Tarrifs then he has an equivalent price control policy compared to Harris on this subject? If so, that's ridiculous.

If we have a free trade policy toward others, but they don't have a free trade policy towards us, meaning we don't create tariffs, but they do…tell me how that's a good thing.
Are tariffs actually a tax employed to force Americans to buy certain products? It fixes the prices of some items to supporrt unions? Sounds like price fixing to me. Of course thats very different from fixing food price isnt it? Both go against the the principals of capitalism and market driven prices.
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

Doc Holliday said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I am sure I will get called names for not falling in lime but aren't tarrifs a form of price controls that penalizes consumers and help incompetent union factories?

I am certainly not defending dem price controls

I am all for letting capitalism work.
Are you trying to equate that because Trump is going after Tarrifs then he has an equivalent price control policy compared to Harris on this subject? If so, that's ridiculous.

If we have a free trade policy toward others, but they don't have a free trade policy towards us, meaning we don't create tariffs, but they do…tell me how that's a good thing.
Are tariffs actually a tax employed to force Americans to buy certain products? It fixes the prices of some items to supporrt unions? Sounds like price fixing to me. Of course thats very different from fixing food price isnt it? Both go against the the principals of capitalism and market driven prices.
I am advocating the restoration of free trade in which China backs off its constant tariffs and manipulation. If that can only be achieved by making it clear that we will equalize any tariff attempt, so be it.
Limited IQ Redneck in PU
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Probably won't have much luck trying to control China policy. But ours can be controlled by our leaders. Why should I have to pay a tariff put in place to protect overpayed union workers.
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

Probably won't have much luck trying to control China policy. But ours can be controlled by our leaders. Why should I have to pay a tariff put in place to protect overpayed union workers.

While I generally agree about tariffs the answer is that no U.S. worker can compete with a 9 yr old Chinese worker.

Better stated when you're playing a game it's important that all players are playing by at least similar rules.
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Wangchung said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I am sure I will get called names for not falling in lime but aren't tarrifs a form of price controls that penalizes consumers and help incompetent union factories?

I am certainly not defending dem price controls

I am all for letting capitalism work.
Only if we pretend that cheaper made products from child labor are superior to American made products.
Your idea that tariffs are made to protect inferior American products is as asinine as your claim that they are implemented to fight child labor.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

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nein51 said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

Probably won't have much luck trying to control China policy. But ours can be controlled by our leaders. Why should I have to pay a tariff put in place to protect overpayed union workers.

While I generally agree about tariffs the answer is that no U.S. worker can compete with a 9 yr old Chinese worker.

Better stated when you're playing a game it's important that all players are playing by at least similar rules.
How big of a role do you think 9 year olds play in the steel mills or the auto factories? The minimum age to work in China is 16. I know its a huge country but I have seen lots of nice schools. I find it puzzling that you think an American union auto worker cant compete with a 9 year old Chinese auto worker.

https://study.com/academy/lesson/child-labor-in-china-history-laws-facts.html#:~:text=Another%20crucial%20law%20in%20protecting,their%20education%20is%20not%

When playing a game you cant make rules for other countries or cultures and expect them to follow your lead. You look at the finished product and choose which one you want. If 9 year olds can engineer, design and manufacture a better car its says a lot about American union worker. If you want to buy American then by all means buy American.
J.R.
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Now that is just idiotic. I do not in anyway think she is stupid. She is much smarter than fat boy, but, price controls never, ever work. Must grow the economy and pay down the debt instead of piling it on!
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If an American manufacturer is paying 50 dollars an hour in wages and benefits to its workers.......it's stupid to think it's profitable while competing against manufacturers in 3rd world countries paying 18 dollars a day

Which is why US companies have been relocating overseas.…....and American jobs are lost.

Want to ignore the historical record in regards to tariffs ........fine. But they worked for a very long time in protecting the US standard of living.


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So you think America should use something other than market prices to determine the worth of a mans labor?
If thats the case lets beat back poverty in america and make minimum wage $100 qn hour.. Everybody can be well off. No more poverty.
Wangchung
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

So you think America should use something other than market prices to determine the worth of a mans labor?
If thats the case lets beat back poverty in america and make minimum wage $100 qn hour.. Everybody can be well off. No more poverty.
Or we could make using foreign slave labor too costly so we can keep our money in our own economy, provide more jobs for Americans who will then be able to purchase more products thus strengthening our economic growth. Crazy, huh? Now try to answer without lying about the quality of American products or simping for slave labor.
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J.R.
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yeah, lets bring all the manufacturing back to the US. How does a $4,000 I phone suite ya? I have run very large factories in Asia and Mexico. I know all too well about labor rates. One thing I can tell you specifically in China is that it is NOT slave labor. Factory jobs in large outfits in China come with an hourly wage, free housing as dorms are provided with 3 squares a day. Those are highly sought after jobs there.
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