WW3 is right around the corner. This election is as real as it gets.

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KaiBear
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drahthaar said:

KaiBear said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

KaiBear said:

We constantly maintain 4-6 'boomer' subs of the coast of Russia. Each armed with 21 missiles and each missile can be armed with up to 4 independently trackable hydrogen bombs.

Launch time to detention over a target ……less than 40 minutes. In many cases less than 20 minutes.


And the Russians maintain a similar number of hydrogen bomb carrying submarines off the coast of the US.


This has been the case for decades.


If Harris unintentionally gets us into a war with Russia( and it goes nuclear…..it's going to be a very short war.


Not just for the US and Russia; but for most of the northern hemisphere.


Sure but I think we can be involved in a war without it going nuclear. Assuming all sides don't invade the mainlands.


Without a direct threat to US territory there is no reason to go to war to begin with.
We're still expecting our enemies to attack us a la World Trade Center, 9/11 method. IMO, the majority of the threats to U.S. territory currently reside within the continental 49 states. No external invasion will be necessary to wreak havoc here. We've witnessed low-level events of this over the past couple of decades.
No argument with this assessment.

Unfortunately most Americans are too fat, lonely, in debt, or hopelessly ignorant to comprehend your point.

KaiBear
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ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

Realitybites said:

The population of Ukraine has been cut in half compared to before the war. About a half million Ukrainians killed, the rest left the country.




These are horrible numbers and do not even reflect the hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian wounded.

Many of whom are permanently crippled.

And all due to the miscalculations of Putin and Biden over the 'merits' of NATO membership.

You Dems who are all hot about Harris because of abortion or because she is a woman…..keep in mind.

This fool went to Europe after Putin put over 200,000 soldiers along the Ukraine border …..and again called for Ukraine to join NATO.

Putin invaded shortly afterward.

Biden - Harris are responsible for the worst foreign policy blunder by the United States since the Korean War.

And yet you want THIS bimbo to be our Commander in Chief ?

Are you willing to live or die based on the decisions of this bimbo ?
You might want to poll all the dead Americans scattered around Asian jungles and middle eastern deserts.
You are so absolutely hopeless.

The next time you consider posting something so ridiculously stupid; just keep in mind......

it's not in fact 'clever'.


The point is that you were completely wrong and doubt you even agree with yourself
In the vain attempt to educate you.... READ about Truman's order to push US forces north to the Yalu river.

But since you are either perpetually stoned or terminally stupid just resume your polling of the dead .


ron.reagan
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KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

Realitybites said:

The population of Ukraine has been cut in half compared to before the war. About a half million Ukrainians killed, the rest left the country.




These are horrible numbers and do not even reflect the hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian wounded.

Many of whom are permanently crippled.

And all due to the miscalculations of Putin and Biden over the 'merits' of NATO membership.

You Dems who are all hot about Harris because of abortion or because she is a woman…..keep in mind.

This fool went to Europe after Putin put over 200,000 soldiers along the Ukraine border …..and again called for Ukraine to join NATO.

Putin invaded shortly afterward.

Biden - Harris are responsible for the worst foreign policy blunder by the United States since the Korean War.

And yet you want THIS bimbo to be our Commander in Chief ?

Are you willing to live or die based on the decisions of this bimbo ?
You might want to poll all the dead Americans scattered around Asian jungles and middle eastern deserts.
You are so absolutely hopeless.

The next time you consider posting something so ridiculously stupid; just keep in mind......

it's not in fact 'clever'.


The point is that you were completely wrong and doubt you even agree with yourself
In the vain attempt to educate you.... READ about Truman's order to push US forces north to the Yalu river.

But since you are either perpetually stoned or terminally stupid just resume your polling of the dead .



Does the Yalu run all the way through Vietnam and Iraq? Otherwise I have no idea what your point is.
Mitch Blood Green
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

ron.reagan said:

lmao, no where near ww3. Nobody will start a war that will get steam rolled. Maybe in 5-10 years from now things will be different. This is why it is important to keep Russia begging for scraps
Agree with you here, Ronnie. I gotta think Putin's Army is weary, bruised, and battered. Especially now that Ukraine is taking territory in Russia.


Russia is rolling out 1950s tanks to try to take back Kursk. I'm reading Russia is losing 1100 men per day.

Mommas will not stand for that.
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WW3 is a war of information (specifically misinformation).

Russia knows they can't win a military, nuclear, or economic war against us so they use our freedoms against us to influence our population and sow division amongst us. We of course do this against them as well, but as the Russian and Chinese governments have much more control over what media gets to their populations it is not as effective.

They do this by flooding our social media sites with bots to dictate the pro-Russian talking points under the guise of normal everyday red-blooded American accounts. They hire popular pundits on both sides of the political spectrum to spout their propaganda. They undermine our faith in our institutions and convince us that our true enemy is our government, our intelligence organizations, our military, the Republicans, the Democrats, and finally our neighbors.

They appeal to the conservative nature of the Right political spectrum and the Socialist nature of the Left, slowly gathering more of our population that is Sympathetic to Russia and eventually would welcome a Russian invasion.

Other countries are doing this as well, but Russia is the most obvious.
trey3216
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Realitybites said:

The population of Ukraine has been cut in half compared to before the war. About a half million Ukrainians killed, the rest left the country.

Those of you who have draft eligible children, I recommend that you have a plan B in place that doesn't have them wearing a uniform in Milley's ****** Army and dying for 10% for the big guy.

The easiest solution is to send them to college in Belgrade, Budapest, or another neutral country. Maybe Zurich, but I have less faith in Swiss neutrality than I used to.

Canada won't shelter kids from the GWFGR like they did during Vietnam.
Belgrade...Budapest...Neutral Countries????? L O Fing L
Mr. Treehorn treats objects like women, man.
KaiBear
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ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

Realitybites said:

The population of Ukraine has been cut in half compared to before the war. About a half million Ukrainians killed, the rest left the country.




These are horrible numbers and do not even reflect the hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian wounded.

Many of whom are permanently crippled.

And all due to the miscalculations of Putin and Biden over the 'merits' of NATO membership.

You Dems who are all hot about Harris because of abortion or because she is a woman…..keep in mind.

This fool went to Europe after Putin put over 200,000 soldiers along the Ukraine border …..and again called for Ukraine to join NATO.

Putin invaded shortly afterward.

Biden - Harris are responsible for the worst foreign policy blunder by the United States since the Korean War.

And yet you want THIS bimbo to be our Commander in Chief ?

Are you willing to live or die based on the decisions of this bimbo ?
You might want to poll all the dead Americans scattered around Asian jungles and middle eastern deserts.
You are so absolutely hopeless.

The next time you consider posting something so ridiculously stupid; just keep in mind......

it's not in fact 'clever'.


The point is that you were completely wrong and doubt you even agree with yourself
In the vain attempt to educate you.... READ about Truman's order to push US forces north to the Yalu river.

But since you are either perpetually stoned or terminally stupid just resume your polling of the dead .



Does the Yalu run all the way through Vietnam and Iraq? Otherwise I have no idea what your point is.




READ what happened when Truman ( and the Joint Chiefs ) ignored repeated warming from Mao and invaded
North Korea and approached the Yalu River.

The consequences of which impacted US realities in the far east including Vietnam.
ron.reagan
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KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

Realitybites said:

The population of Ukraine has been cut in half compared to before the war. About a half million Ukrainians killed, the rest left the country.




These are horrible numbers and do not even reflect the hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian wounded.

Many of whom are permanently crippled.

And all due to the miscalculations of Putin and Biden over the 'merits' of NATO membership.

You Dems who are all hot about Harris because of abortion or because she is a woman…..keep in mind.

This fool went to Europe after Putin put over 200,000 soldiers along the Ukraine border …..and again called for Ukraine to join NATO.

Putin invaded shortly afterward.

Biden - Harris are responsible for the worst foreign policy blunder by the United States since the Korean War.

And yet you want THIS bimbo to be our Commander in Chief ?

Are you willing to live or die based on the decisions of this bimbo ?
You might want to poll all the dead Americans scattered around Asian jungles and middle eastern deserts.
You are so absolutely hopeless.

The next time you consider posting something so ridiculously stupid; just keep in mind......

it's not in fact 'clever'.


The point is that you were completely wrong and doubt you even agree with yourself
In the vain attempt to educate you.... READ about Truman's order to push US forces north to the Yalu river.

But since you are either perpetually stoned or terminally stupid just resume your polling of the dead .



Does the Yalu run all the way through Vietnam and Iraq? Otherwise I have no idea what your point is.




READ what happened when Truman ( and the Joint Chiefs ) ignored repeated warming from Mao and invaded
North Korea and approached the Yalu River.

The consequences of which impacted US realities in the far east including Vietnam.
Considering I've worked for Samsung half my life and spent a good part of my life in SK I'd say Truman helped pay my mortgage
FLBear5630
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ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

Realitybites said:

The population of Ukraine has been cut in half compared to before the war. About a half million Ukrainians killed, the rest left the country.




These are horrible numbers and do not even reflect the hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian wounded.

Many of whom are permanently crippled.

And all due to the miscalculations of Putin and Biden over the 'merits' of NATO membership.

You Dems who are all hot about Harris because of abortion or because she is a woman…..keep in mind.

This fool went to Europe after Putin put over 200,000 soldiers along the Ukraine border …..and again called for Ukraine to join NATO.

Putin invaded shortly afterward.

Biden - Harris are responsible for the worst foreign policy blunder by the United States since the Korean War.

And yet you want THIS bimbo to be our Commander in Chief ?

Are you willing to live or die based on the decisions of this bimbo ?
You might want to poll all the dead Americans scattered around Asian jungles and middle eastern deserts.
You are so absolutely hopeless.

The next time you consider posting something so ridiculously stupid; just keep in mind......

it's not in fact 'clever'.


The point is that you were completely wrong and doubt you even agree with yourself
In the vain attempt to educate you.... READ about Truman's order to push US forces north to the Yalu river.

But since you are either perpetually stoned or terminally stupid just resume your polling of the dead .



Does the Yalu run all the way through Vietnam and Iraq? Otherwise I have no idea what your point is.




READ what happened when Truman ( and the Joint Chiefs ) ignored repeated warming from Mao and invaded
North Korea and approached the Yalu River.

The consequences of which impacted US realities in the far east including Vietnam.
Considering I've worked for Samsung half my life and spent a good part of my life in SK I'd say Truman helped pay my mortgage
I have done a lot of work with Hyundai. No one in SK is complaining about Truman...
Tempus Edax Rerum
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

If you have teenagers, this election is dam- serious.

If you aren't thinking about ww3 in this election, you are clearly not a student of history. We are very close to being pulled into a middle east war or European war. Russia, China, and Iran are devising strategies to destabilize the West and take back land. You know it to be the case. Each month Putin continues his fight, the more likely he is to seek allies to weaken Ukraines benefactors.

If we one domino falls and pulls the US in - Ukraine, Middle East, or Taiwan, then they all will likely fall.

We've known peace for so long that we can't imagine the DRAFT returning, but I believe that we're close now. Pray for peace because I believe that the next president will determine whether or not your sons and daughters are sacrificed in the trenches on behalf of the oligarchs in Europe.

I don't know that any president will be able to avoid war, but I know for sure that Harris and Walz are in the pockets of the oligarchs and will do their bidding. God help our kids if they win this election.

So again, If you have teenagers, this election is damn serious.
Ok, drama queen.
KaiBear
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ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

Realitybites said:

The population of Ukraine has been cut in half compared to before the war. About a half million Ukrainians killed, the rest left the country.




These are horrible numbers and do not even reflect the hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian wounded.

Many of whom are permanently crippled.

And all due to the miscalculations of Putin and Biden over the 'merits' of NATO membership.

You Dems who are all hot about Harris because of abortion or because she is a woman…..keep in mind.

This fool went to Europe after Putin put over 200,000 soldiers along the Ukraine border …..and again called for Ukraine to join NATO.

Putin invaded shortly afterward.

Biden - Harris are responsible for the worst foreign policy blunder by the United States since the Korean War.

And yet you want THIS bimbo to be our Commander in Chief ?

Are you willing to live or die based on the decisions of this bimbo ?
You might want to poll all the dead Americans scattered around Asian jungles and middle eastern deserts.
You are so absolutely hopeless.

The next time you consider posting something so ridiculously stupid; just keep in mind......

it's not in fact 'clever'.


The point is that you were completely wrong and doubt you even agree with yourself
In the vain attempt to educate you.... READ about Truman's order to push US forces north to the Yalu river.

But since you are either perpetually stoned or terminally stupid just resume your polling of the dead .



Does the Yalu run all the way through Vietnam and Iraq? Otherwise I have no idea what your point is.




READ what happened when Truman ( and the Joint Chiefs ) ignored repeated warming from Mao and invaded
North Korea and approached the Yalu River.

The consequences of which impacted US realities in the far east including Vietnam.
Considering I've worked for Samsung half my life and spent a good part of my life in SK I'd say Truman helped pay my mortgage


Truman helped pay your mortgage and got tens of thousands of UN troops killed.

Realitybites
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ron.reagan said:

You might want to poll all the dead Americans scattered around Asian jungles and middle eastern deserts.


Those dead Americans didn't die for this country. The ACUs I wore for eight years weren't the uniforms of this country. Go ahead, install President Momala and saddle up your rainbow unicorns and ride them into battle in the GWFGR. You'll do it without me, my kids, my grandkids, and with my utter contempt
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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

If you have teenagers, this election is dam- serious.

If you aren't thinking about ww3 in this election, you are clearly not a student of history. We are very close to being pulled into a middle east war or European war. Russia, China, and Iran are devising strategies to destabilize the West and take back land. You know it to be the case. Each month Putin continues his fight, the more likely he is to seek allies to weaken Ukraines benefactors.

If we one domino falls and pulls the US in - Ukraine, Middle East, or Taiwan, then they all will likely fall.

We've known peace for so long that we can't imagine the DRAFT returning, but I believe that we're close now. Pray for peace because I believe that the next president will determine whether or not your sons and daughters are sacrificed in the trenches on behalf of the oligarchs in Europe.

I don't know that any president will be able to avoid war, but I know for sure that Harris and Walz are in the pockets of the oligarchs and will do their bidding. God help our kids if they win this election.

So again, If you have teenagers, this election is damn serious.
Ok, drama queen.


Don't assume my gender. But yes, it was meant to be dramatic. Do you have teenagers? If you do, you're a fool if you don't see that we are in a precarious spot right now. It's quite possible that War is closer than the media wants you to believe.
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Realitybites said:

ron.reagan said:

You might want to poll all the dead Americans scattered around Asian jungles and middle eastern deserts.


Those dead Americans didn't die for this country. The ACUs I wore for eight years weren't the uniforms of this country. Go ahead, install President Momala and saddle up your rainbow unicorns and ride them into battle in the GWFGR. You'll do it without me, my kids, my grandkids, and with my utter contempt
Good grief..
ron.reagan
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Realitybites said:

ron.reagan said:

You might want to poll all the dead Americans scattered around Asian jungles and middle eastern deserts.


Those dead Americans didn't die for this country. The ACUs I wore for eight years weren't the uniforms of this country. Go ahead, install President Momala and saddle up your rainbow unicorns and ride them into battle in the GWFGR. You'll do it without me, my kids, my grandkids, and with my utter contempt
From your post history I'm guessing your kids are going to do without you just fine
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KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

Realitybites said:

The population of Ukraine has been cut in half compared to before the war. About a half million Ukrainians killed, the rest left the country.




These are horrible numbers and do not even reflect the hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian wounded.

Many of whom are permanently crippled.

And all due to the miscalculations of Putin and Biden over the 'merits' of NATO membership.

You Dems who are all hot about Harris because of abortion or because she is a woman…..keep in mind.

This fool went to Europe after Putin put over 200,000 soldiers along the Ukraine border …..and again called for Ukraine to join NATO.

Putin invaded shortly afterward.

Biden - Harris are responsible for the worst foreign policy blunder by the United States since the Korean War.

And yet you want THIS bimbo to be our Commander in Chief ?

Are you willing to live or die based on the decisions of this bimbo ?
You might want to poll all the dead Americans scattered around Asian jungles and middle eastern deserts.
You are so absolutely hopeless.

The next time you consider posting something so ridiculously stupid; just keep in mind......

it's not in fact 'clever'.


The point is that you were completely wrong and doubt you even agree with yourself
In the vain attempt to educate you.... READ about Truman's order to push US forces north to the Yalu river.

But since you are either perpetually stoned or terminally stupid just resume your polling of the dead .



Does the Yalu run all the way through Vietnam and Iraq? Otherwise I have no idea what your point is.




READ what happened when Truman ( and the Joint Chiefs ) ignored repeated warming from Mao and invaded
North Korea and approached the Yalu River.

The consequences of which impacted US realities in the far east including Vietnam.
Considering I've worked for Samsung half my life and spent a good part of my life in SK I'd say Truman helped pay my mortgage


Truman helped pay your mortgage and got tens of thousands of UN troops killed.


No, North Korea invading got those UN troops killed. Same with Ukraine, Russia invading got those Ukrainian kids killed. The fault lies with who invaded, blaming a Nation for assisting one in trouble is not a fault.
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Bestweekeverr said:

WW3 is a war of information (specifically misinformation).

Russia knows they can't win a military, nuclear, or economic war against us so they use our freedoms against us to influence our population and sow division amongst us. We of course do this against them as well, but as the Russian and Chinese governments have much more control over what media gets to their populations it is not as effective.

They do this by flooding our social media sites with bots to dictate the pro-Russian talking points under the guise of normal everyday red-blooded American accounts. They hire popular pundits on both sides of the political spectrum to spout their propaganda. They undermine our faith in our institutions and convince us that our true enemy is our government, our intelligence organizations, our military, the Republicans, the Democrats, and finally our neighbors.



I can assure you those divisions existed long before the Russian Federation was around or Putin was in control.

And they will continue to exist if the Russian Federation collapses tomorrow or when Putin inevitably dies in a few years. (he is in his 70s)

The divisions in American life have DEEP roots....economic, political, cultural, ethno-racial, and religious.

Its taken us decades to get here....and the divisions will go on for decades more.

Regardless of some Russian meme farms and internet trolls.


[To a world watching with fascination the struggle convulsing our capital and wider American society ...And just how much division can such a nation stand? We know what the left thinks of Trump's "base." Hillary Clinton told us. His supporters, she said, are "deplorables" who are "racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobicyou name it." Lately, America's right has been called fascist and Nazi. How can the liberals "unite" with people like that? Why should the liberals unite with people like that? Why should liberals not try to drive such "racists" out of power by any means necessary? Why not kill them if they can? It's a logical argument. As for those on theRightas they watch the Left disparage the old heroes, tear down their ancestral monuments, purge Christianity from their schools and public placesthey have come to conclude that their enemies are at root anti-Christian and anti-American. How do we unify a nation where the opposing camps believe this? Why should we unify it? It is a very obvious cold civil war in which compromise is seen as a betrayal. And now, in T.S. Eliot's words, we but await "the strength to force the great moment to its crisis."]

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/first-read/-country-fire-new-poll-finds-america-polarized-culture-race-woke-rcna81592
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FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

Realitybites said:

The population of Ukraine has been cut in half compared to before the war. About a half million Ukrainians killed, the rest left the country.




These are horrible numbers and do not even reflect the hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian wounded.

Many of whom are permanently crippled.

And all due to the miscalculations of Putin and Biden over the 'merits' of NATO membership.

You Dems who are all hot about Harris because of abortion or because she is a woman…..keep in mind.

This fool went to Europe after Putin put over 200,000 soldiers along the Ukraine border …..and again called for Ukraine to join NATO.

Putin invaded shortly afterward.

Biden - Harris are responsible for the worst foreign policy blunder by the United States since the Korean War.

And yet you want THIS bimbo to be our Commander in Chief ?

Are you willing to live or die based on the decisions of this bimbo ?
You might want to poll all the dead Americans scattered around Asian jungles and middle eastern deserts.
You are so absolutely hopeless.

The next time you consider posting something so ridiculously stupid; just keep in mind......

it's not in fact 'clever'.


The point is that you were completely wrong and doubt you even agree with yourself
In the vain attempt to educate you.... READ about Truman's order to push US forces north to the Yalu river.

But since you are either perpetually stoned or terminally stupid just resume your polling of the dead .



Does the Yalu run all the way through Vietnam and Iraq? Otherwise I have no idea what your point is.




READ what happened when Truman ( and the Joint Chiefs ) ignored repeated warming from Mao and invaded
North Korea and approached the Yalu River.

The consequences of which impacted US realities in the far east including Vietnam.
Considering I've worked for Samsung half my life and spent a good part of my life in SK I'd say Truman helped pay my mortgage


Truman helped pay your mortgage and got tens of thousands of UN troops killed.


No, North Korea invading got those UN troops killed. Same with Ukraine, Russia invading got those Ukrainian kids killed. The fault lies with who invaded, blaming a Nation for assisting one in trouble is not a fault.
Some pretty stark differences....

1. South Korea in 1950 was already within the American sphere of influence when Stalin and Mao authorized the Communists of North Korea to try and invade the South....Stalin had agreed to that at Yalta years before.

Not to mention the USA was acting under a broad consensus and UN mandate to provide military aid to the Republic of Korea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_83

2. Ukraine has never been inside the American sphere of influence.

No one agreed to that.

And the UN has not authorized a war to throw out the Russians.
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Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

Realitybites said:

The population of Ukraine has been cut in half compared to before the war. About a half million Ukrainians killed, the rest left the country.




These are horrible numbers and do not even reflect the hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian wounded.

Many of whom are permanently crippled.

And all due to the miscalculations of Putin and Biden over the 'merits' of NATO membership.

You Dems who are all hot about Harris because of abortion or because she is a woman…..keep in mind.

This fool went to Europe after Putin put over 200,000 soldiers along the Ukraine border …..and again called for Ukraine to join NATO.

Putin invaded shortly afterward.

Biden - Harris are responsible for the worst foreign policy blunder by the United States since the Korean War.

And yet you want THIS bimbo to be our Commander in Chief ?

Are you willing to live or die based on the decisions of this bimbo ?
You might want to poll all the dead Americans scattered around Asian jungles and middle eastern deserts.
You are so absolutely hopeless.

The next time you consider posting something so ridiculously stupid; just keep in mind......

it's not in fact 'clever'.


The point is that you were completely wrong and doubt you even agree with yourself
In the vain attempt to educate you.... READ about Truman's order to push US forces north to the Yalu river.

But since you are either perpetually stoned or terminally stupid just resume your polling of the dead .



Does the Yalu run all the way through Vietnam and Iraq? Otherwise I have no idea what your point is.




READ what happened when Truman ( and the Joint Chiefs ) ignored repeated warming from Mao and invaded
North Korea and approached the Yalu River.

The consequences of which impacted US realities in the far east including Vietnam.
Considering I've worked for Samsung half my life and spent a good part of my life in SK I'd say Truman helped pay my mortgage


Truman helped pay your mortgage and got tens of thousands of UN troops killed.


No, North Korea invading got those UN troops killed. Same with Ukraine, Russia invading got those Ukrainian kids killed. The fault lies with who invaded, blaming a Nation for assisting one in trouble is not a fault.
Some pretty stark differences....

1. South Korea in 1950 was already within the American sphere of influence when Stalin and Mao authorized the Communists of North Korea to try and invade the South....Stalin had agreed to that at Yalta years before.

Not to mention the USA was acting under a broad consensus and UN mandate to provide military aid to the Republic of Korea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_83

2. Ukraine has never been inside the American sphere of influence.

No one agreed to that.

And the UN has not authorized a war to throw out the Russians.
the UN could and would allow the Russians being thrown out….if Russia and China weren't on the UN Security Council.
Mr. Treehorn treats objects like women, man.
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trey3216 said:

Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

Realitybites said:

The population of Ukraine has been cut in half compared to before the war. About a half million Ukrainians killed, the rest left the country.




These are horrible numbers and do not even reflect the hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian wounded.

Many of whom are permanently crippled.

And all due to the miscalculations of Putin and Biden over the 'merits' of NATO membership.

You Dems who are all hot about Harris because of abortion or because she is a woman…..keep in mind.

This fool went to Europe after Putin put over 200,000 soldiers along the Ukraine border …..and again called for Ukraine to join NATO.

Putin invaded shortly afterward.

Biden - Harris are responsible for the worst foreign policy blunder by the United States since the Korean War.

And yet you want THIS bimbo to be our Commander in Chief ?

Are you willing to live or die based on the decisions of this bimbo ?
You might want to poll all the dead Americans scattered around Asian jungles and middle eastern deserts.
You are so absolutely hopeless.

The next time you consider posting something so ridiculously stupid; just keep in mind......

it's not in fact 'clever'.


The point is that you were completely wrong and doubt you even agree with yourself
In the vain attempt to educate you.... READ about Truman's order to push US forces north to the Yalu river.

But since you are either perpetually stoned or terminally stupid just resume your polling of the dead .



Does the Yalu run all the way through Vietnam and Iraq? Otherwise I have no idea what your point is.




READ what happened when Truman ( and the Joint Chiefs ) ignored repeated warming from Mao and invaded
North Korea and approached the Yalu River.

The consequences of which impacted US realities in the far east including Vietnam.
Considering I've worked for Samsung half my life and spent a good part of my life in SK I'd say Truman helped pay my mortgage


Truman helped pay your mortgage and got tens of thousands of UN troops killed.


No, North Korea invading got those UN troops killed. Same with Ukraine, Russia invading got those Ukrainian kids killed. The fault lies with who invaded, blaming a Nation for assisting one in trouble is not a fault.
Some pretty stark differences....

1. South Korea in 1950 was already within the American sphere of influence when Stalin and Mao authorized the Communists of North Korea to try and invade the South....Stalin had agreed to that at Yalta years before.

Not to mention the USA was acting under a broad consensus and UN mandate to provide military aid to the Republic of Korea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_83

2. Ukraine has never been inside the American sphere of influence.

No one agreed to that.

And the UN has not authorized a war to throw out the Russians.
the UN could and would allow the Russians being thrown out….if Russia and China weren't on the UN Security Council.

And if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle...

As we all know...because of WWII Russia and China are on the permanent security council.

The permanent Security Council of the UN did authorized a military campaign against North Korea over South Korea in 1950....its had NOT authorized a military campaign against Russia over Ukraine today.

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Mitch Blood Green said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

ron.reagan said:

lmao, no where near ww3. Nobody will start a war that will get steam rolled. Maybe in 5-10 years from now things will be different. This is why it is important to keep Russia begging for scraps
Agree with you here, Ronnie. I gotta think Putin's Army is weary, bruised, and battered. Especially now that Ukraine is taking territory in Russia.


Russia is rolling out 1950s tanks to try to take back Kursk. I'm reading Russia is losing 1100 men per day.

Mommas will not stand for that.

Probably why they are emptying out the prisons and using mercenaries

If those causality figures are right it will be interesting to see how long Moscow can keep it up for domestic opposition becomes strong.
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Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

Realitybites said:

The population of Ukraine has been cut in half compared to before the war. About a half million Ukrainians killed, the rest left the country.




These are horrible numbers and do not even reflect the hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian wounded.

Many of whom are permanently crippled.

And all due to the miscalculations of Putin and Biden over the 'merits' of NATO membership.

You Dems who are all hot about Harris because of abortion or because she is a woman…..keep in mind.

This fool went to Europe after Putin put over 200,000 soldiers along the Ukraine border …..and again called for Ukraine to join NATO.

Putin invaded shortly afterward.

Biden - Harris are responsible for the worst foreign policy blunder by the United States since the Korean War.

And yet you want THIS bimbo to be our Commander in Chief ?

Are you willing to live or die based on the decisions of this bimbo ?
You might want to poll all the dead Americans scattered around Asian jungles and middle eastern deserts.
You are so absolutely hopeless.

The next time you consider posting something so ridiculously stupid; just keep in mind......

it's not in fact 'clever'.


The point is that you were completely wrong and doubt you even agree with yourself
In the vain attempt to educate you.... READ about Truman's order to push US forces north to the Yalu river.

But since you are either perpetually stoned or terminally stupid just resume your polling of the dead .



Does the Yalu run all the way through Vietnam and Iraq? Otherwise I have no idea what your point is.




READ what happened when Truman ( and the Joint Chiefs ) ignored repeated warming from Mao and invaded
North Korea and approached the Yalu River.

The consequences of which impacted US realities in the far east including Vietnam.
Considering I've worked for Samsung half my life and spent a good part of my life in SK I'd say Truman helped pay my mortgage


Truman helped pay your mortgage and got tens of thousands of UN troops killed.


No, North Korea invading got those UN troops killed. Same with Ukraine, Russia invading got those Ukrainian kids killed. The fault lies with who invaded, blaming a Nation for assisting one in trouble is not a fault.
Some pretty stark differences....

1. South Korea in 1950 was already within the American sphere of influence when Stalin and Mao authorized the Communists of North Korea to try and invade the South....Stalin had agreed to that at Yalta years before.

Not to mention the USA was acting under a broad consensus and UN mandate to provide military aid to the Republic of Korea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_83

2. Ukraine has never been inside the American sphere of influence.

No one agreed to that.

And the UN has not authorized a war to throw out the Russians.


And no one is fighting the Russians but the Ukraines. You seem to forget we are selling weapons when asked by Ukraine. There is no UN force in Ukraine. Still doesn't change the fact that Ukraine boys are dying because Russia invaded, not because we are providing a means to defend themselves.
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FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

Realitybites said:

The population of Ukraine has been cut in half compared to before the war. About a half million Ukrainians killed, the rest left the country.




These are horrible numbers and do not even reflect the hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian wounded.

Many of whom are permanently crippled.

And all due to the miscalculations of Putin and Biden over the 'merits' of NATO membership.

You Dems who are all hot about Harris because of abortion or because she is a woman…..keep in mind.

This fool went to Europe after Putin put over 200,000 soldiers along the Ukraine border …..and again called for Ukraine to join NATO.

Putin invaded shortly afterward.

Biden - Harris are responsible for the worst foreign policy blunder by the United States since the Korean War.

And yet you want THIS bimbo to be our Commander in Chief ?

Are you willing to live or die based on the decisions of this bimbo ?
You might want to poll all the dead Americans scattered around Asian jungles and middle eastern deserts.
You are so absolutely hopeless.

The next time you consider posting something so ridiculously stupid; just keep in mind......

it's not in fact 'clever'.


The point is that you were completely wrong and doubt you even agree with yourself
In the vain attempt to educate you.... READ about Truman's order to push US forces north to the Yalu river.

But since you are either perpetually stoned or terminally stupid just resume your polling of the dead .



Does the Yalu run all the way through Vietnam and Iraq? Otherwise I have no idea what your point is.




READ what happened when Truman ( and the Joint Chiefs ) ignored repeated warming from Mao and invaded
North Korea and approached the Yalu River.

The consequences of which impacted US realities in the far east including Vietnam.
Considering I've worked for Samsung half my life and spent a good part of my life in SK I'd say Truman helped pay my mortgage


Truman helped pay your mortgage and got tens of thousands of UN troops killed.


No, North Korea invading got those UN troops killed. Same with Ukraine, Russia invading got those Ukrainian kids killed. The fault lies with who invaded, blaming a Nation for assisting one in trouble is not a fault.
We're not assisting Ukraine in any way. We're simply using them to fight Russia.
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Redbrickbear said:

trey3216 said:

Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

Realitybites said:

The population of Ukraine has been cut in half compared to before the war. About a half million Ukrainians killed, the rest left the country.




These are horrible numbers and do not even reflect the hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian wounded.

Many of whom are permanently crippled.

And all due to the miscalculations of Putin and Biden over the 'merits' of NATO membership.

You Dems who are all hot about Harris because of abortion or because she is a woman…..keep in mind.

This fool went to Europe after Putin put over 200,000 soldiers along the Ukraine border …..and again called for Ukraine to join NATO.

Putin invaded shortly afterward.

Biden - Harris are responsible for the worst foreign policy blunder by the United States since the Korean War.

And yet you want THIS bimbo to be our Commander in Chief ?

Are you willing to live or die based on the decisions of this bimbo ?
You might want to poll all the dead Americans scattered around Asian jungles and middle eastern deserts.
You are so absolutely hopeless.

The next time you consider posting something so ridiculously stupid; just keep in mind......

it's not in fact 'clever'.


The point is that you were completely wrong and doubt you even agree with yourself
In the vain attempt to educate you.... READ about Truman's order to push US forces north to the Yalu river.

But since you are either perpetually stoned or terminally stupid just resume your polling of the dead .



Does the Yalu run all the way through Vietnam and Iraq? Otherwise I have no idea what your point is.




READ what happened when Truman ( and the Joint Chiefs ) ignored repeated warming from Mao and invaded
North Korea and approached the Yalu River.

The consequences of which impacted US realities in the far east including Vietnam.
Considering I've worked for Samsung half my life and spent a good part of my life in SK I'd say Truman helped pay my mortgage


Truman helped pay your mortgage and got tens of thousands of UN troops killed.


No, North Korea invading got those UN troops killed. Same with Ukraine, Russia invading got those Ukrainian kids killed. The fault lies with who invaded, blaming a Nation for assisting one in trouble is not a fault.
Some pretty stark differences....

1. South Korea in 1950 was already within the American sphere of influence when Stalin and Mao authorized the Communists of North Korea to try and invade the South....Stalin had agreed to that at Yalta years before.

Not to mention the USA was acting under a broad consensus and UN mandate to provide military aid to the Republic of Korea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_83

2. Ukraine has never been inside the American sphere of influence.

No one agreed to that.

And the UN has not authorized a war to throw out the Russians.
the UN could and would allow the Russians being thrown out….if Russia and China weren't on the UN Security Council.

And if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle...

As we all know...because of WWII Russia and China are on the permanent security council.

The permanent Security Council of the UN did authorized a military campaign against North Korea over South Korea in 1950....its had NOT authorized a military campaign against Russia over Ukraine today.


dude it authorize Russia to annex Crimea in 2014 and invade ukraine in 2022?
Mr. Treehorn treats objects like women, man.
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Sam Lowry said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

Realitybites said:

The population of Ukraine has been cut in half compared to before the war. About a half million Ukrainians killed, the rest left the country.




These are horrible numbers and do not even reflect the hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian wounded.

Many of whom are permanently crippled.

And all due to the miscalculations of Putin and Biden over the 'merits' of NATO membership.

You Dems who are all hot about Harris because of abortion or because she is a woman…..keep in mind.

This fool went to Europe after Putin put over 200,000 soldiers along the Ukraine border …..and again called for Ukraine to join NATO.

Putin invaded shortly afterward.

Biden - Harris are responsible for the worst foreign policy blunder by the United States since the Korean War.

And yet you want THIS bimbo to be our Commander in Chief ?

Are you willing to live or die based on the decisions of this bimbo ?
You might want to poll all the dead Americans scattered around Asian jungles and middle eastern deserts.
You are so absolutely hopeless.

The next time you consider posting something so ridiculously stupid; just keep in mind......

it's not in fact 'clever'.


The point is that you were completely wrong and doubt you even agree with yourself
In the vain attempt to educate you.... READ about Truman's order to push US forces north to the Yalu river.

But since you are either perpetually stoned or terminally stupid just resume your polling of the dead .



Does the Yalu run all the way through Vietnam and Iraq? Otherwise I have no idea what your point is.




READ what happened when Truman ( and the Joint Chiefs ) ignored repeated warming from Mao and invaded
North Korea and approached the Yalu River.

The consequences of which impacted US realities in the far east including Vietnam.
Considering I've worked for Samsung half my life and spent a good part of my life in SK I'd say Truman helped pay my mortgage


Truman helped pay your mortgage and got tens of thousands of UN troops killed.


No, North Korea invading got those UN troops killed. Same with Ukraine, Russia invading got those Ukrainian kids killed. The fault lies with who invaded, blaming a Nation for assisting one in trouble is not a fault.
We're not assisting Ukraine in any way. We're simply using them to fight Russia.
we all know you have a special place for your Putin lotion
Mr. Treehorn treats objects like women, man.
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FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

Realitybites said:

The population of Ukraine has been cut in half compared to before the war. About a half million Ukrainians killed, the rest left the country.




These are horrible numbers and do not even reflect the hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian wounded.

Many of whom are permanently crippled.

And all due to the miscalculations of Putin and Biden over the 'merits' of NATO membership.

You Dems who are all hot about Harris because of abortion or because she is a woman…..keep in mind.

This fool went to Europe after Putin put over 200,000 soldiers along the Ukraine border …..and again called for Ukraine to join NATO.

Putin invaded shortly afterward.

Biden - Harris are responsible for the worst foreign policy blunder by the United States since the Korean War.

And yet you want THIS bimbo to be our Commander in Chief ?

Are you willing to live or die based on the decisions of this bimbo ?
You might want to poll all the dead Americans scattered around Asian jungles and middle eastern deserts.
You are so absolutely hopeless.

The next time you consider posting something so ridiculously stupid; just keep in mind......

it's not in fact 'clever'.


The point is that you were completely wrong and doubt you even agree with yourself
In the vain attempt to educate you.... READ about Truman's order to push US forces north to the Yalu river.

But since you are either perpetually stoned or terminally stupid just resume your polling of the dead .



Does the Yalu run all the way through Vietnam and Iraq? Otherwise I have no idea what your point is.




READ what happened when Truman ( and the Joint Chiefs ) ignored repeated warming from Mao and invaded
North Korea and approached the Yalu River.

The consequences of which impacted US realities in the far east including Vietnam.
Considering I've worked for Samsung half my life and spent a good part of my life in SK I'd say Truman helped pay my mortgage


Truman helped pay your mortgage and got tens of thousands of UN troops killed.


No, North Korea invading got those UN troops killed. Same with Ukraine, Russia invading got those Ukrainian kids killed. The fault lies with who invaded, blaming a Nation for assisting one in trouble is not a fault.


Not even close.

The UN mandate orchestrated by the United States was to liberate South Korea.

Truman gave permission for US troops to invade the north.
Mao REPEATEDLY warned the US he would not tolerate an invasion of North Korea.

Truman and the army brass ignored every warning believing US air dominance would suffice.

Except that Mao didn't give a **** about his own losses as in many cases he sent over captured Nationalist troops recently released from POW camps.

As a result the US lost tens of thousands killed, some South Korean divisions were entirely obliterated and the United States lost 'face' throughout the Far East.

Greatly encouraging Ho Chi Minh that he could in fact win a war against the worlds strongest nuclear power.

Truman's blunder had never been equaled until Joe Biden and Harris surpassed him.

Sam Lowry
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Dmitri Simes, a former Nixon advisor who's now persona non grata in the West, had some interesting things to say recently. The Russians consider the invasion of Kursk to be a NATO operation. They also see it in conjunction with the attacks on their nuclear early warning system and the positioning of US aircraft carriers with nuclear-capable planes. He expects the Kursk operation to be followed by air strikes on strategic infrastructure deep within Russia. Many people will scoff at that possibility. The same people assured us that Ukraine would never use long-range missiles, and we see how that turned out. If the Russians believe we're preparing for a nuclear first strike, they'll be forced to react accordingly. Putting them in that position would be the worst US blunder, not just since Korea, but possibly ever. And that's to say nothing of the worsening situation in the Middle East and the South China Sea.

Obama once said, "Never underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up." If only he'd known how right he was.
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KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

Realitybites said:

The population of Ukraine has been cut in half compared to before the war. About a half million Ukrainians killed, the rest left the country.




These are horrible numbers and do not even reflect the hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian wounded.

Many of whom are permanently crippled.

And all due to the miscalculations of Putin and Biden over the 'merits' of NATO membership.

You Dems who are all hot about Harris because of abortion or because she is a woman…..keep in mind.

This fool went to Europe after Putin put over 200,000 soldiers along the Ukraine border …..and again called for Ukraine to join NATO.

Putin invaded shortly afterward.

Biden - Harris are responsible for the worst foreign policy blunder by the United States since the Korean War.

And yet you want THIS bimbo to be our Commander in Chief ?

Are you willing to live or die based on the decisions of this bimbo ?
You might want to poll all the dead Americans scattered around Asian jungles and middle eastern deserts.
You are so absolutely hopeless.

The next time you consider posting something so ridiculously stupid; just keep in mind......

it's not in fact 'clever'.


The point is that you were completely wrong and doubt you even agree with yourself
In the vain attempt to educate you.... READ about Truman's order to push US forces north to the Yalu river.

But since you are either perpetually stoned or terminally stupid just resume your polling of the dead .



Does the Yalu run all the way through Vietnam and Iraq? Otherwise I have no idea what your point is.




READ what happened when Truman ( and the Joint Chiefs ) ignored repeated warming from Mao and invaded
North Korea and approached the Yalu River.

The consequences of which impacted US realities in the far east including Vietnam.
Considering I've worked for Samsung half my life and spent a good part of my life in SK I'd say Truman helped pay my mortgage


Truman helped pay your mortgage and got tens of thousands of UN troops killed.


No, North Korea invading got those UN troops killed. Same with Ukraine, Russia invading got those Ukrainian kids killed. The fault lies with who invaded, blaming a Nation for assisting one in trouble is not a fault.


Not even close.

The UN mandate orchestrated by the United States was to liberate South Korea.

Truman gave permission for US troops to invade the north.
Mao REPEATEDLY warned the US he would not tolerate an invasion of North Korea.

Truman and the army brass ignored every warning believing US air dominance would suffice.

Except that Mao didn't give a **** about his own losses as in many cases he sent over captured Nationalist troops recently released from POW camps.

As a result the US lost tens of thousands killed, some South Korean divisions were entirely obliterated and the United States lost 'face' throughout the Far East.

Greatly encouraging Ho Chi Minh that he could in fact win a war against the worlds strongest nuclear power.

Truman's blunder had never been equaled until Joe Biden and Harris surpassed him.




Here we go, "orchestrate"? The North invaded S Korea. You keep failing to mention these little facts. No invasion by N Korea, no Korean war. No invasion by Russia, no Ukraine war. Funny how that works. But keep blaming "conspiracies", "orchestrated events", etc. Actual aggression trump's conspiracy theories
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Sam Lowry said:

Dmitri Simes, a former Nixon advisor who's now persona non grata in the West, had some interesting things to say recently. The Russians consider the invasion of Kursk to be a NATO operation. They also see it in conjunction with the attacks on their nuclear early warning system and the positioning of US aircraft carriers with nuclear-capable planes. He expects the Kursk operation to be followed by air strikes on strategic infrastructure deep within Russia. Many people will scoff at that possibility. The same people assured us that Ukraine would never use long-range missiles, and we see how that turned out. If the Russians believe we're preparing for a nuclear first strike, they'll be forced to react accordingly. Putting them in that position would be the worst US blunder, not just since Korea, but possibly ever. And that's to say nothing of the worsening situation in the Middle East and the South China Sea.

Obama once said, "Never underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up." If only he'd known how right he was.


LOL!!!!!
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FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

Realitybites said:

The population of Ukraine has been cut in half compared to before the war. About a half million Ukrainians killed, the rest left the country.




These are horrible numbers and do not even reflect the hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian wounded.

Many of whom are permanently crippled.

And all due to the miscalculations of Putin and Biden over the 'merits' of NATO membership.

You Dems who are all hot about Harris because of abortion or because she is a woman…..keep in mind.

This fool went to Europe after Putin put over 200,000 soldiers along the Ukraine border …..and again called for Ukraine to join NATO.

Putin invaded shortly afterward.

Biden - Harris are responsible for the worst foreign policy blunder by the United States since the Korean War.

And yet you want THIS bimbo to be our Commander in Chief ?

Are you willing to live or die based on the decisions of this bimbo ?
You might want to poll all the dead Americans scattered around Asian jungles and middle eastern deserts.
You are so absolutely hopeless.

The next time you consider posting something so ridiculously stupid; just keep in mind......

it's not in fact 'clever'.


The point is that you were completely wrong and doubt you even agree with yourself
In the vain attempt to educate you.... READ about Truman's order to push US forces north to the Yalu river.

But since you are either perpetually stoned or terminally stupid just resume your polling of the dead .



Does the Yalu run all the way through Vietnam and Iraq? Otherwise I have no idea what your point is.




READ what happened when Truman ( and the Joint Chiefs ) ignored repeated warming from Mao and invaded
North Korea and approached the Yalu River.

The consequences of which impacted US realities in the far east including Vietnam.
Considering I've worked for Samsung half my life and spent a good part of my life in SK I'd say Truman helped pay my mortgage


Truman helped pay your mortgage and got tens of thousands of UN troops killed.


No, North Korea invading got those UN troops killed. Same with Ukraine, Russia invading got those Ukrainian kids killed. The fault lies with who invaded, blaming a Nation for assisting one in trouble is not a fault.


Not even close.

The UN mandate orchestrated by the United States was to liberate South Korea.

Truman gave permission for US troops to invade the north.
Mao REPEATEDLY warned the US he would not tolerate an invasion of North Korea.

Truman and the army brass ignored every warning believing US air dominance would suffice.

Except that Mao didn't give a **** about his own losses as in many cases he sent over captured Nationalist troops recently released from POW camps.

As a result the US lost tens of thousands killed, some South Korean divisions were entirely obliterated and the United States lost 'face' throughout the Far East.

Greatly encouraging Ho Chi Minh that he could in fact win a war against the worlds strongest nuclear power.

Truman's blunder had never been equaled until Joe Biden and Harris surpassed him.




Here we go, "orchestrate"? The North invaded S Korea. You keep failing to mention these little facts. No invasion by N Korea, no Korean war. No invasion by Russia, no Ukraine war. Funny how that works. But keep blaming "conspiracies", "orchestrated events", etc. Actual aggression trump's conspiracy theories


The US definitely orchestrated the UN resolution authorizing US and other UN members to help liberate South Korea.

Almost everyone expected the Soviet Union to veto the resolution; but they did not. What they did do was send in their MIG's to shoot the living hell out of our bombers and mediocre jet aircraft. Fortunately better aircraft were coming off the assembly lines.

Anyway Truman should have obeyed the UN mandate as the North Korean dictator was desperate to end the war.

Instead Truman gave the green light to invade ……and a gigantic screwup resulted. Thousands dead, Mao gained a huge amount of prestige and Ho Chi Minh found himself a blueprint for victory in Vietnam.

Now Harris Biden are attempting to widen their stupidity even further in Ukraine.

Better pray fat boy Trump wins in November or the real **** is still possible.
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Sam Lowry said:

Dmitri Simes, a former Nixon advisor who's now persona non grata in the West, had some interesting things to say recently. The Russians consider the invasion of Kursk to be a NATO operation. They also see it in conjunction with the attacks on their nuclear early warning system and the positioning of US aircraft carriers with nuclear-capable planes. He expects the Kursk operation to be followed by air strikes on strategic infrastructure deep within Russia. Many people will scoff at that possibility. The same people assured us that Ukraine would never use long-range missiles, and we see how that turned out. If the Russians believe we're preparing for a nuclear first strike, they'll be forced to react accordingly. Putting them in that position would be the worst US blunder, not just since Korea, but possibly ever. And that's to say nothing of the worsening situation in the Middle East and the South China Sea.

Obama once said, "Never underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up." If only he'd known how right he was.



If our media would only tell the truth about this war 80% of the most vicious Trump haters would vote for him in November.

As we are in very real risk of WW3.

Trump would negotiate a realistic settlement.

People desperately need to wake up.
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

For those of you with teens, how will your kids serve if the draft is revved back up? Draft or enlist or other job?

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trey3216 said:

Redbrickbear said:

trey3216 said:

Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

Realitybites said:

The population of Ukraine has been cut in half compared to before the war. About a half million Ukrainians killed, the rest left the country.




These are horrible numbers and do not even reflect the hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian wounded.

Many of whom are permanently crippled.

And all due to the miscalculations of Putin and Biden over the 'merits' of NATO membership.

You Dems who are all hot about Harris because of abortion or because she is a woman…..keep in mind.

This fool went to Europe after Putin put over 200,000 soldiers along the Ukraine border …..and again called for Ukraine to join NATO.

Putin invaded shortly afterward.

Biden - Harris are responsible for the worst foreign policy blunder by the United States since the Korean War.

And yet you want THIS bimbo to be our Commander in Chief ?

Are you willing to live or die based on the decisions of this bimbo ?
You might want to poll all the dead Americans scattered around Asian jungles and middle eastern deserts.
You are so absolutely hopeless.

The next time you consider posting something so ridiculously stupid; just keep in mind......

it's not in fact 'clever'.


The point is that you were completely wrong and doubt you even agree with yourself
In the vain attempt to educate you.... READ about Truman's order to push US forces north to the Yalu river.

But since you are either perpetually stoned or terminally stupid just resume your polling of the dead .



Does the Yalu run all the way through Vietnam and Iraq? Otherwise I have no idea what your point is.




READ what happened when Truman ( and the Joint Chiefs ) ignored repeated warming from Mao and invaded
North Korea and approached the Yalu River.

The consequences of which impacted US realities in the far east including Vietnam.
Considering I've worked for Samsung half my life and spent a good part of my life in SK I'd say Truman helped pay my mortgage


Truman helped pay your mortgage and got tens of thousands of UN troops killed.


No, North Korea invading got those UN troops killed. Same with Ukraine, Russia invading got those Ukrainian kids killed. The fault lies with who invaded, blaming a Nation for assisting one in trouble is not a fault.
Some pretty stark differences....

1. South Korea in 1950 was already within the American sphere of influence when Stalin and Mao authorized the Communists of North Korea to try and invade the South....Stalin had agreed to that at Yalta years before.

Not to mention the USA was acting under a broad consensus and UN mandate to provide military aid to the Republic of Korea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_83

2. Ukraine has never been inside the American sphere of influence.

No one agreed to that.

And the UN has not authorized a war to throw out the Russians.
the UN could and would allow the Russians being thrown out….if Russia and China weren't on the UN Security Council.

And if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle...

As we all know...because of WWII Russia and China are on the permanent security council.

The permanent Security Council of the UN did authorized a military campaign against North Korea over South Korea in 1950....its had NOT authorized a military campaign against Russia over Ukraine today.


dude it authorize Russia to annex Crimea in 2014 and invade ukraine in 2022?


Sure, they certainly have no right

(but still…not our war… not our fight…not UN mandated)
Redbrickbear
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FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

Realitybites said:

The population of Ukraine has been cut in half compared to before the war. About a half million Ukrainians killed, the rest left the country.




These are horrible numbers and do not even reflect the hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian wounded.

Many of whom are permanently crippled.

And all due to the miscalculations of Putin and Biden over the 'merits' of NATO membership.

You Dems who are all hot about Harris because of abortion or because she is a woman…..keep in mind.

This fool went to Europe after Putin put over 200,000 soldiers along the Ukraine border …..and again called for Ukraine to join NATO.

Putin invaded shortly afterward.

Biden - Harris are responsible for the worst foreign policy blunder by the United States since the Korean War.

And yet you want THIS bimbo to be our Commander in Chief ?

Are you willing to live or die based on the decisions of this bimbo ?
You might want to poll all the dead Americans scattered around Asian jungles and middle eastern deserts.
You are so absolutely hopeless.

The next time you consider posting something so ridiculously stupid; just keep in mind......

it's not in fact 'clever'.


The point is that you were completely wrong and doubt you even agree with yourself
In the vain attempt to educate you.... READ about Truman's order to push US forces north to the Yalu river.

But since you are either perpetually stoned or terminally stupid just resume your polling of the dead .



Does the Yalu run all the way through Vietnam and Iraq? Otherwise I have no idea what your point is.




READ what happened when Truman ( and the Joint Chiefs ) ignored repeated warming from Mao and invaded
North Korea and approached the Yalu River.

The consequences of which impacted US realities in the far east including Vietnam.
Considering I've worked for Samsung half my life and spent a good part of my life in SK I'd say Truman helped pay my mortgage


Truman helped pay your mortgage and got tens of thousands of UN troops killed.


No, North Korea invading got those UN troops killed. Same with Ukraine, Russia invading got those Ukrainian kids killed. The fault lies with who invaded, blaming a Nation for assisting one in trouble is not a fault.
Some pretty stark differences....

1. South Korea in 1950 was already within the American sphere of influence when Stalin and Mao authorized the Communists of North Korea to try and invade the South....Stalin had agreed to that at Yalta years before.

Not to mention the USA was acting under a broad consensus and UN mandate to provide military aid to the Republic of Korea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_83

2. Ukraine has never been inside the American sphere of influence.

No one agreed to that.

And the UN has not authorized a war to throw out the Russians.


And no one is fighting the Russians but the Ukraines. You seem to forget we are selling weapons when asked by Ukraine. There is no UN force in Ukraine..


(Well let's pretend for a moment that the Pentagon is not directing the Ukrainians fight against Russia right now.)

For now we are just giving them money.

But tomorrow? Who can say….we have been sucked into wars before by a slow and steady deepening of our involvement.
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Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Redbrickbear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

ron.reagan said:

KaiBear said:

Realitybites said:

The population of Ukraine has been cut in half compared to before the war. About a half million Ukrainians killed, the rest left the country.




These are horrible numbers and do not even reflect the hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian wounded.

Many of whom are permanently crippled.

And all due to the miscalculations of Putin and Biden over the 'merits' of NATO membership.

You Dems who are all hot about Harris because of abortion or because she is a woman…..keep in mind.

This fool went to Europe after Putin put over 200,000 soldiers along the Ukraine border …..and again called for Ukraine to join NATO.

Putin invaded shortly afterward.

Biden - Harris are responsible for the worst foreign policy blunder by the United States since the Korean War.

And yet you want THIS bimbo to be our Commander in Chief ?

Are you willing to live or die based on the decisions of this bimbo ?
You might want to poll all the dead Americans scattered around Asian jungles and middle eastern deserts.
You are so absolutely hopeless.

The next time you consider posting something so ridiculously stupid; just keep in mind......

it's not in fact 'clever'.


The point is that you were completely wrong and doubt you even agree with yourself
In the vain attempt to educate you.... READ about Truman's order to push US forces north to the Yalu river.

But since you are either perpetually stoned or terminally stupid just resume your polling of the dead .



Does the Yalu run all the way through Vietnam and Iraq? Otherwise I have no idea what your point is.




READ what happened when Truman ( and the Joint Chiefs ) ignored repeated warming from Mao and invaded
North Korea and approached the Yalu River.

The consequences of which impacted US realities in the far east including Vietnam.
Considering I've worked for Samsung half my life and spent a good part of my life in SK I'd say Truman helped pay my mortgage


Truman helped pay your mortgage and got tens of thousands of UN troops killed.


No, North Korea invading got those UN troops killed. Same with Ukraine, Russia invading got those Ukrainian kids killed. The fault lies with who invaded, blaming a Nation for assisting one in trouble is not a fault.
Some pretty stark differences....

1. South Korea in 1950 was already within the American sphere of influence when Stalin and Mao authorized the Communists of North Korea to try and invade the South....Stalin had agreed to that at Yalta years before.

Not to mention the USA was acting under a broad consensus and UN mandate to provide military aid to the Republic of Korea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_83

2. Ukraine has never been inside the American sphere of influence.

No one agreed to that.

And the UN has not authorized a war to throw out the Russians.


And no one is fighting the Russians but the Ukraines. You seem to forget we are selling weapons when asked by Ukraine. There is no UN force in Ukraine..


(Well let's pretend for a moment that the Pentagon is not directing the Ukrainians fight against Russia right now.)

For now we are just giving them money.

But tomorrow? Who can say….we have been sucked into wars before by a slow and steady deepening of our involvement.


We're giving more than money. I think we're giving Equipment, arms, training personne.
 
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