How the Democrats Lost

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hodedofome
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1) They are arrogant and prideful, and believe they are the smartest people in the room

2) They couldn't admit they made a mistake choosing Biden, and waited too late to make a change

3) By the time they realized they couldn't hide Biden's condition any longer, they chose Harris due to the $200 million they had raised for Biden already. Nobody else could tap it.

4) Because they are prideful, it kept them from realizing this is the sunk cost fallacy. It's doomed many before, and they fell right into it. Anyone else would have gotten more votes than her.

5) Harris is un-electable. Nobody likes her as she is the supreme DEI hire. She never earned anything, just made it through life by knowing and bl*wing the right people. She came from too extreme left of a city and could never appeal to a broader base needed to get elected. She either changes her beliefs and ticks off her left base, or sticks to her extremist guns and ticks off the central base. She was stuck.

6) Having twerking rappers at her rallies didn't help anyone take her seriously

7) Having a lot of people feeling hurt economically and ticked off about men in the girls bathrooms didn't help either
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Great post hodedofome,

Here's my three reasons why:

1. Americans don't feel safe with criminal illegal aliens invading our Southern border. The Dems still have no clue this is a problem.

2. Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro could have pulled her across the finish line. But they rejected him because he is a Jew. Plain and simple. Kamala instead picked Tampon Tim. How does any red blooded American man vote for a guy named Tampon Tim?

3. To her credit, Kamala Harris is not a bigot. She hates all people. That was pretty clear as the campaign played out.

Illegal aliens, anti-Semitism, and hate cost Kamala the election. I don't think for one minute she will run in 2028. Her political career is over. Perhaps she can be a Gavin Newsom Fluffer.
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Economy

Border

Woke insanity

No Dem primary

Trump's personal courage

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Great post hodedofome,

Here's my three reasons why:

1. Americans don't feel safe with criminal illegal aliens invading our Southern border. The Dems still have no clue this is a problem.

2. Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro could have pulled her across the finish line. But they rejected him because he is a Jew. Plain and simple. Kamala instead picked Tampon Tim. How does any red blooded American man vote for a guy named Tampon Tim?

3. To her credit, Kamala Harris is not a bigot. She hates all people. That was pretty clear as the campaign played out.

Illegal aliens, anti-Semitism, and hate cost Kamala the election. I don't think for one minute she will run in 2028. Her political career is over. Perhaps she can be a Gavin Newsom Fluffer.


Daughter of a Marxist gonna Marxist

Same for buttigig
Realitybites
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All these are good observations...but without Joe Rogan, RFK, and Tulsi expanding the base you would be looking at President Harris right now.

Don't let the size of the electoral college win make you lose sight of just how close the vote was in the seven swing states that the winner had to have.

Listening to statements from people like Thune, Cornyn, Pompeo, Haley this week has not convinced me that the GOP has learned its lesson. Tuesday was D-day. There is a lot of war before we reach Hitler's bunker.
hodedofome
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We can all list reasons why Kamala is un-electable. She's just not a good candidate which is why her presidential bid failed so spectacularly in 2000.

And it may be as simple as the economy and the border and girls bathrooms made the American public go another way.

But I still hold to my guns that the Democratic Party holds the blame for the sunk cost fallacy in the first place. They should have not looked at avoiding losing the money they currently had. They should have looked at who could be elected and figured out the money later. I mean my gosh, she raised a billion dollars and it still wasn't enough. Trump had a third of that money and won.

Any other candidate would have received more votes, and the Democrats may have won.
hodedofome
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Realitybites said:

All these are good observations...but without Joe Rogan, RFK, and Tulsi expanding the base you would be looking at President Harris right now.

Don't let the size of the electoral college win make you lose sight of just how close the vote was in the seven swing states that the winner had to have.


I think those people expanding the base came over because of how bad Harris was. Once again, if they choose another candidate Trump doesn't enjoy the left base voting for him.

It would be like the Republicans putting Marjorie Taylor Greene out there as the candidate. Just too extreme to be elected.
Realitybites
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The crossover votes will stay *if* the GOP does what they want them to...and what the GOP base wants and what the crossover vote wants is much more aligned than what GOPe wants.

If it is business as usual, they will lose the house and senate in the midterms, impeach Trump and remove him from office, and complete Obama's transformation of America.
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Democrats have taken the air out of the ball the past two elections. They simply refused to campaign.
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A significant factor for why the democrats lost was the absolutely brilliant move by conservative governors like Abbot and Desantis to bus and fly tens of thousands of illegal immigrants into northern blue, sanctuary cities. It forced their people's virtue signaling loftiness to come crashing down to meet hard reality. Bringing the border right up to them didn't allow them to just vote their feelings anymore, now it had real consequences. Before, they could just levitate above the rest of us thousands of miles away from the problem and thumb their nose down at border states who "hate brown people". Now, it was a national issue, and everyone saw and/or experienced firsthand how destructive Biden/Harris' border policies were. If it weren't for this, I honestly believe large parts of America would still be clueless, and commie Kamala might well have been our next president.
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This is a perfect example.
They are arrogant and condescending.... and TOTALLY WRONG!!



I pray that the left never figures it out. The more they push the ****** insanity, the more supporters they will lose.
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ShooterTX said:

This is a perfect example.
They are arrogant and condescending.... and TOTALLY WRONG!!



I pray that the left never figures it out. The more they push the ****** insanity, the more supporters they will lose.


I'll say it... I dont want boys playing against my daughter in college sports.

Call me transphobic, idc. I'll put it on my nametag. That stuff is evil insanity and we should be afraid of it in every way.
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Married A Horn said:

ShooterTX said:

This is a perfect example.
They are arrogant and condescending.... and TOTALLY WRONG!!



I pray that the left never figures it out. The more they push the ****** insanity, the more supporters they will lose.


I'll say it... I dont want boys playing against my daughter in college sports.

Call me transphobic, idc. I'll put it on my nametag. That stuff is evil insanity and we should afraid of it in every way.
bet there were alot of men and women with girls that felt the same way when voting
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Married A Horn said:

ShooterTX said:

This is a perfect example.
They are arrogant and condescending.... and TOTALLY WRONG!!



I pray that the left never figures it out. The more they push the ****** insanity, the more supporters they will lose.


I'll say it... I dont want boys playing against my daughter in college sports.

Call me transphobic, idc. I'll put it on my nametag. That stuff is evil insanity and we should afraid of it in every way.



You're a hater









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A lot of good observations, but there were ultimately 14 million fewer votes cast this election, and a few that voted for Biden voted for Trump this time around. Harris not only failed to motivate Democrats to vote who voted in 2020 for an old man with dementia, but her main strategy of appealing to independents seemed to be not being named Donald Trump, and backing off entirely on the stances and rhetoric that once got her named the most progressive politician in D.C.

And so she was left with nothing but empty platitudes. An inability to connect with working class America, because in order to be electable, she really had to pretend to be something she wasn't. And American saw right through it.

I still maintain that the race was always hers to lose. She had an incredible amount of built in support. She was running against one of the most hated American politicians ever. The media framed this as a battle of life v death, democracy v fascism. And yet she lost. This will be studied for a long time, because many won't be able to get their heads around Americans voting for women dying and fascism taking over. We can all think of many factors, but in the end, I think all we can say for sure, is Democrats didn't buy into her, and they showed that by not voting; and neither did independents/centrists, and they showed that by breaking out of demographics and class to vote for Trump.
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... and how one democrat (apparently) won:



looks familiar!

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Realitybites
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Why do I suspect such a graph would represent what happened in Nevada and Arizona as well...

They've already stolen those two seats, hopefully they can't steal McCormick's.
Jack Bauer
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2) They couldn't admit they made a mistake choosing Biden, and waited too late to make a change

yes, 100%

Joe Biden was always a one-term President. his ONLY job was to keep Trump from being re-elected.
And they thought Trump was politically dead after January 6th and they were safe.

When Trump ran for re-election, Biden's team was too stubborn to step down and give someone else a better chance. Biden was already too old in 2020 and went downhill quickly. That debate performance was not "a bad night", it was dementia setting in.
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In a good op-ed in today's NYT, Thomas Frank, the leftie who wrote What's The Matter With Kansas? ages ago, tries to talk sense into his fellow libs. Excerpts:

Quote:

Everyone has a moment when they first realized that Donald Trump might well return, and here is mine. It was back in March, during a visit to the Smithsonian's National Portrait Gallery, when I happened to read the explanatory text beside an old painting. This note described the westward advance of the United States in the 19th century as "settler colonialism." I read it and I knew instantly where this nation was going.
My problem with this bit of academic jargon was not that it was wrong, per se, or that President Biden was somehow responsible for putting it there, but rather that it offered a glimpse of our poisoned class relations. Some curator at one of our most exalted institutions of public instruction had decided to use a currently fashionable, morally loaded academic keyword to address a visitor to the museum say, a family from the Midwest, doing the round of national shrines and teach them a lesson about American wickedness.

Right. The people don't exist for the cultural elites except as subjects to be improved. (And when I say "cultural elites," I perfectly well know that I'm an elite by any realistic measure; I'm talking rather of that class of people who run the institutions and the leadership networks, and whose views dominate the discourse.)
More Frank, recalling his book:

Quote:

My Kansas story was mainly about Republicans, but I also wrote about the way the Democrats were gradually turning away from working people and their concerns. Just think of all those ebullient Democratic proclamations in the '90s about trade and tech and globalization and financial innovation. What a vision they had: All those manifestoes about futurific "wired workers" or the "learning class" … all those speeches about how Democrats had to leave the worker-centric populism of the 1930s behind them … all those brilliant triangulations and reaching out to the right. When I was young, it felt like every rising leader in the Democratic Party was making those points. That was the way to win voters in what they called "the center," the well-educated suburbanites and computer-literate professionals whom everybody admired.

Well, those tech-minded Democrats got exactly what they set out to get, and now here we are. At the Republican convention in July, JD Vance described the ruination visited on his working-class town in Ohio by NAFTA and trade with China, both of which he blamed at least in part on Mr. Biden, and also the human toll taken by the Iraq War, which he also contrived to blame on Mr. Biden. Today Mr. Vance is the vice president-elect, and what I hope you will understand, what I want you to mull over and take to heart and remember for the rest of your life, is that he got there by mimicking the language that Americans used to associate with labor, with liberals, with Democrats.

By comparison, here is Barack Obama in 2016, describing to Bloomberg Businessweek his affinity for the private sector: "Just to bring things full circle about innovation the conversations I have with Silicon Valley and with venture capital pull together my interests in science and organization in a way I find really satisfying."

I hope Mr. Obama finds his silicon satisfaction. I hope the men of capital whose banks he bailed out during the financial crisis show a little gratitude and build him the biggest, most expensive, most innovative presidential library of them all. But his party is in ruins today, without a leader and without a purpose.

It would have been nice if the Democrats could have triangulated their way into the hearts of enough educated and affluent suburbanites to make up for the working class voters they've lost over the years, but somehow that strategy rarely works out. They could have gone from boasting about Dick Cheney's endorsement to becoming a version of Mr. Cheney themselves, and it still wouldn't have been enough. A party of the left that identifies with people like Mr. Cheney is a contradiction in terms, a walking corpse.
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hodedofome said:

We can all list reasons why Kamala is un-electable. She's just not a good candidate which is why her presidential bid failed so spectacularly in 2000.

And it may be as simple as the economy and the border and girls bathrooms made the American public go another way.

But I still hold to my guns that the Democratic Party holds the blame for the sunk cost fallacy in the first place. They should have not looked at avoiding losing the money they currently had. They should have looked at who could be elected and figured out the money later. I mean my gosh, she raised a billion dollars and it still wasn't enough. Trump had a third of that money and won.

Any other candidate would have received more votes, and the Democrats may have won.
The only states Harris won are those with No Voter ID laws. Let that sink in...
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They were actually gonna try to let this guy go for another 4 years...

ShooterTX
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Jack Bauer said:

They were actually gonna try to let this guy go for another 4 years...


Jill Biden should be thrown in jail for elder abuse
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A lot of people are having a hard time wrapping their head around women dying and fascism taking over?

I mean, I know that's (STILL) one of the talking points coming out of the mouths of a Democrat party that has gone into full defensive mode.

But last I checked, DT was president for four years, and women weren't dying, and fascism didn't take over.

That kind of "concern" and hyperbole was exactly what DIDN'T work in this election. But if the Dems keep playing that card, it will be tough times ahead. Because people weren't buying it.

People were too concerned with their own place in this world and how to make ends meet. And they saw that the last four years have't been good for them. Democrats have policies that make life more expensive for everyone. And the people who they pander to the most were among those who were having the toughest time. And those citizens are left with nothing but the thought that these people say they care about us, but then do nothing but pass legislation that makes my life tougher.

If DT can get things right, it will really make the Dems path tougher. DT needs to filter what he says a bit, and let his successes do the talking.

We've seen two recent elections where the opposing party didn't even have to focus on policy. They just let the media sit and wait for DT to say something controversial. This allowed them to NOT talk about their candidates policies (or lack thereof) and focus on the words of the other guy.
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Porteroso said:

A lot of good observations, but there were ultimately 14 million fewer votes cast this election, and a few that voted for Biden voted for Trump this time around. Harris not only failed to motivate Democrats to vote who voted in 2020 for an old man with dementia, but her main strategy of appealing to independents seemed to be not being named Donald Trump, and backing off entirely on the stances and rhetoric that once got her named the most progressive politician in D.C.

And so she was left with nothing but empty platitudes. An inability to connect with working class America, because in order to be electable, she really had to pretend to be something she wasn't. And American saw right through it.

I still maintain that the race was always hers to lose. She had an incredible amount of built in support. She was running against one of the most hated American politicians ever. The media framed this as a battle of life v death, democracy v fascism. And yet she lost. This will be studied for a long time, because many won't be able to get their heads around Americans voting for women dying and fascism taking over. We can all think of many factors, but in the end, I think all we can say for sure, is Democrats didn't buy into her, and they showed that by not voting; and neither did independents/centrists, and they showed that by breaking out of demographics and class to vote for Trump.
This election was never hers to lose.
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Whiskey Pete said:

Porteroso said:

A lot of good observations, but there were ultimately 14 million fewer votes cast this election, and a few that voted for Biden voted for Trump this time around. Harris not only failed to motivate Democrats to vote who voted in 2020 for an old man with dementia, but her main strategy of appealing to independents seemed to be not being named Donald Trump, and backing off entirely on the stances and rhetoric that once got her named the most progressive politician in D.C.

And so she was left with nothing but empty platitudes. An inability to connect with working class America, because in order to be electable, she really had to pretend to be something she wasn't. And American saw right through it.

I still maintain that the race was always hers to lose. She had an incredible amount of built in support. She was running against one of the most hated American politicians ever. The media framed this as a battle of life v death, democracy v fascism. And yet she lost. This will be studied for a long time, because many won't be able to get their heads around Americans voting for women dying and fascism taking over. We can all think of many factors, but in the end, I think all we can say for sure, is Democrats didn't buy into her, and they showed that by not voting; and neither did independents/centrists, and they showed that by breaking out of demographics and class to vote for Trump.
This election was never hers to lose.
. dems be like..

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4th and Inches said:

Whiskey Pete said:

Porteroso said:

A lot of good observations, but there were ultimately 14 million fewer votes cast this election, and a few that voted for Biden voted for Trump this time around. Harris not only failed to motivate Democrats to vote who voted in 2020 for an old man with dementia, but her main strategy of appealing to independents seemed to be not being named Donald Trump, and backing off entirely on the stances and rhetoric that once got her named the most progressive politician in D.C.

And so she was left with nothing but empty platitudes. An inability to connect with working class America, because in order to be electable, she really had to pretend to be something she wasn't. And American saw right through it.

I still maintain that the race was always hers to lose. She had an incredible amount of built in support. She was running against one of the most hated American politicians ever. The media framed this as a battle of life v death, democracy v fascism. And yet she lost. This will be studied for a long time, because many won't be able to get their heads around Americans voting for women dying and fascism taking over. We can all think of many factors, but in the end, I think all we can say for sure, is Democrats didn't buy into her, and they showed that by not voting; and neither did independents/centrists, and they showed that by breaking out of demographics and class to vote for Trump.
This election was never hers to lose.
. dems be like..


LOL! Yep, it's like they think they have a 10 second car when in reality it's just a stock 1976 Ford Pinto with after market glass packs
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ShooterTX said:

This is a perfect example.
They are arrogant and condescending.... and TOTALLY WRONG!!



I pray that the left never figures it out. The more they push the ****** insanity, the more supporters they will lose.


When he got interrupted by the left elitist, he should have replied: 'This is exactly why people are leaving your party. It's not even accept our insanity anymore - we now have to partake in said insanity. You can continue to be delusional and I will continue to call them boys playing in girls sports.'

Left: Agree with me and partake or be cast out!

No thanks. Freedom baby!
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Yes, this seems to be helping out so much..

LIB,MR BEARS
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Jack Bauer said:

Yes, this seems to be helping out so much..


4 more years of spewing stupidity. ABSOLUTELY!!!

It's a winning recipe










…for republicans
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