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Trump, Walz, Tulsi Gabbard and RFK just on UFC 309 in NYC. Love it!

Taking NY back from the brink of hell...

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Trump has some amazing instincts.

His BRO popularity just went even higher with every ethnic group.

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good way to put it. He has some testosterone. The Dems have more female hormones though. They just went through menopause. And it was nasty! Tons of hot flashes! The Dems can no longer get pregnant, not because they went through menopause, but because they swore never to have sex again.

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Also the Trump boys, a short guy I didnt recognize, Ramsawany and several nominated cabinet guys. I dont know all the names. But its one heck of a showing

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Well, if RFK pulls vaccines off the market and turns the US into a third-world cesspool of disease, at least we will have beaten the trans activists at their own game.

Totally worth it!

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Your buddies Biden & Harris have already begun doing that by welcoming in millions of illegals liens. TB & other diseases are way up in the US because of it.

Secondly, RFK is not opposed to all vaxes, only to the experimental kind with inadequate testing & unknown side effects. That's reasonable.

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Americans aren't making babies, so we need immigrants to support our economy.

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The United States already LEADS the WORLD in legal immigration.

Millions of unskilled, undereducated, and in many cases violent; unvetted individuals is not a benefit to any economy.

And only those residing in some kind of insulated environment would believe otherwise.

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I'm not insulated from the problems it causes for a segment of our citizen population. Or at least I'm not unaware of it. It is an overall economic benefit nonetheless. That's the dilemma.

What we need to do is increase legal immigration and streamline the process so we can get more vetted immigrants into the country. But how many people are supporting that?

Spitting out my coffee after reading this NYT "fact check" of RFK Jr. pic.twitter.com/sqL9jaeUR1

— Brad Cohn (@BradCohn) November 17, 2024

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Well, if RFK pulls vaccines off the market and turns the US into a third-world cesspool of disease, at least we will have beaten the trans activists at their own game.

Totally worth it!

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Your buddies Biden & Harris have already begun doing that by welcoming in millions of illegals liens. TB & other diseases are way up in the US because of it.

Secondly, RFK is not opposed to all vaxes, only to the experimental kind with inadequate testing & unknown side effects. That's reasonable.

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Americans aren't making babies, so we need immigrants to support our economy.

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The United States already LEADS the WORLD in legal immigration.

Millions of unskilled, undereducated, and in many cases violent; unvetted individuals is not a benefit to any economy.

And only those residing in some kind of insulated environment would believe otherwise.

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I'm not insulated from the problems it causes for a segment of our citizen population. Or at least I'm not unaware of it. It is an overall economic benefit nonetheless. That's the dilemma.

What we need to do is increase legal immigration and streamline the process so we can get more vetted immigrants into the country. But how many people are supporting that?

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We do not need more than the one million legal immigrants we currently admit every year.

No other country on earth even comes close to us.

You are definitely insulated. No insult, most upper middle class individuals are insulated. And from such insulation comes naivety regarding illegals.

I have lived many years within one mile of the Mexican border.
Have seen things you would never believe. In addition have been in almost every country in Central America and many in South America.

And no country on earth can supply millions of additional jobs every year for unskilled labor coming from the surplus populations of those 2 continents.

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Spitting out my coffee after reading this NYT "fact check" of RFK Jr. pic.twitter.com/sqL9jaeUR1

— Brad Cohn (@BradCohn) November 17, 2024

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They are both crap. And we are feeding our children CRAP.

Hopefully RFK makes a HUGE impact in what goes into our bodies. He looks better than I do at 70, thats for sure

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Well, if RFK pulls vaccines off the market and turns the US into a third-world cesspool of disease, at least we will have beaten the trans activists at their own game.

Totally worth it!

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Your buddies Biden & Harris have already begun doing that by welcoming in millions of illegals liens. TB & other diseases are way up in the US because of it.

Secondly, RFK is not opposed to all vaxes, only to the experimental kind with inadequate testing & unknown side effects. That's reasonable.

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Americans aren't making babies, so we need immigrants to support our economy.

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The United States already LEADS the WORLD in legal immigration.

Millions of unskilled, undereducated, and in many cases violent; unvetted individuals is not a benefit to any economy.

And only those residing in some kind of insulated environment would believe otherwise.

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I'm not insulated from the problems it causes for a segment of our citizen population. Or at least I'm not unaware of it. It is an overall economic benefit nonetheless. That's the dilemma.

What we need to do is increase legal immigration and streamline the process so we can get more vetted immigrants into the country. But how many people are supporting that?

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We do not need more than the one million legal immigrants we currently admit every year.

No other country on earth even comes close to us.

You are definitely insulated. No insult, most upper middle class individuals are insulated. And from such insulation comes naivety regarding illegals.

I have lived many years within one mile of the Mexican border.
Have seen things you would never believe. In addition have been in almost every country in Central America and many in South America.

And no country on earth can supply millions of additional jobs every year for unskilled labor coming from the surplus populations of those 2 continents.

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When it realize it's all about suppressing the wages of working Americans…while also bringing in a new voting base.

It all makes sense

Political liberals working with Wall St

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Well, if RFK pulls vaccines off the market and turns the US into a third-world cesspool of disease, at least we will have beaten the trans activists at their own game.

Totally worth it!

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Your buddies Biden & Harris have already begun doing that by welcoming in millions of illegals liens. TB & other diseases are way up in the US because of it.

Secondly, RFK is not opposed to all vaxes, only to the experimental kind with inadequate testing & unknown side effects. That's reasonable.

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Americans aren't making babies, so we need immigrants to support our economy.

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The United States already LEADS the WORLD in legal immigration.

Millions of unskilled, undereducated, and in many cases violent; unvetted individuals is not a benefit to any economy.

And only those residing in some kind of insulated environment would believe otherwise.

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I'm not insulated from the problems it causes for a segment of our citizen population. Or at least I'm not unaware of it. It is an overall economic benefit nonetheless. That's the dilemma.

What we need to do is increase legal immigration and streamline the process so we can get more vetted immigrants into the country. But how many people are supporting that?

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I have lived many years within one mile of the Mexican border.
Have seen things you would never believe. In addition have been in almost every country in Central America and many in South America.

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Spent many years in Kingsville and still owned property there until a couple of years ago. We had to sell the place as the ILLEGALS kept breaking in and stealing all or part of our AC. We know as we caught them red handed

Where were you at?

Every single person in this picture used to be a Democrat. Total realignment. pic.twitter.com/N0p8I92XIf

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) November 17, 2024

And just to be fair, we did give you Blue guys Liz Cheney... good luck with that

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Best possible choice by Trump.

Kennedy is motivated to do a great job.

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Help me understand how his motivation is an acceptable skill for this job with zero experience in public health or working/leading an agency?

I accept that there are transferable skills but I don't see how Environmental Lawyering in small firms translates to this critical department.

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Please define "Public Health".

This will be a fascinating exercise for a statist. I can't wait for your reply.

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Well, if RFK pulls vaccines off the market and turns the US into a third-world cesspool of disease, at least we will have beaten the trans activists at their own game.

Totally worth it!

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Your buddies Biden & Harris have already begun doing that by welcoming in millions of illegals liens. TB & other diseases are way up in the US because of it.

Secondly, RFK is not opposed to all vaxes, only to the experimental kind with inadequate testing & unknown side effects. That's reasonable.

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Americans aren't making babies, so we need immigrants to support our economy.

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The United States already LEADS the WORLD in legal immigration.

Millions of unskilled, undereducated, and in many cases violent; unvetted individuals is not a benefit to any economy.

And only those residing in some kind of insulated environment would believe otherwise.

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I'm not insulated from the problems it causes for a segment of our citizen population. Or at least I'm not unaware of it. It is an overall economic benefit nonetheless. That's the dilemma.

What we need to do is increase legal immigration and streamline the process so we can get more vetted immigrants into the country. But how many people are supporting that?

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Come on Sam. The cost of ILLEGALS in this country is staggering. There is no way it can be spun to be an economic and certainly not a MORAL victory. These are criminals who take jobs away from LEGAL immigrants and US citizens. These are rapists and murderers. They force us to fund ICE and massive Border Patrol. But most of all, every single one of them are CRMINALS

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You forgot:
They dont pay taxes
They send $$ back home
They dont pay for school (and overcrowd them)
They dont pay for healthcare (and overcrowd the ER)
They dont pay for food
They inflate housing costs

Sam is lying yet again. He knows it.

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Well, if RFK pulls vaccines off the market and turns the US into a third-world cesspool of disease, at least we will have beaten the trans activists at their own game.

Totally worth it!

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"The Science" likes to slander everyone who doesn't mindlessly adhere to all childhood and adult vaccination schedules as "anti-vaccine".

However it is probably a scientifically stronger case to accept the general theory of vaccination while rejecting the ideas that all pathogens must have a vaccine, that the current childhood schedule is good, that there is nothing wrong in the way we manufacture them.

mRNA vaccine (it isn't one) technology should be banned outright along with any tech that isn't killed or live attenuated whole pathogen. Gain of function research should be banned. The childhood vaccination schedule should go back to the 1960s or 1970s. Combination vaccines that only expose the immune system should be banned. There should be at least a two week (and probably one month) moratorium between vaccines so the immune system can regain a level of homeostasis before being exposed to another pathogen.

These are not radical ideas.

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Sam Lowry said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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historian said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Well, if RFK pulls vaccines off the market and turns the US into a third-world cesspool of disease, at least we will have beaten the trans activists at their own game.

Totally worth it!

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Your buddies Biden & Harris have already begun doing that by welcoming in millions of illegals liens. TB & other diseases are way up in the US because of it.

Secondly, RFK is not opposed to all vaxes, only to the experimental kind with inadequate testing & unknown side effects. That's reasonable.

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Americans aren't making babies, so we need immigrants to support our economy.

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The United States already LEADS the WORLD in legal immigration.

Millions of unskilled, undereducated, and in many cases violent; unvetted individuals is not a benefit to any economy.

And only those residing in some kind of insulated environment would believe otherwise.

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I'm not insulated from the problems it causes for a segment of our citizen population. Or at least I'm not unaware of it. It is an overall economic benefit nonetheless. That's the dilemma.

What we need to do is increase legal immigration and streamline the process so we can get more vetted immigrants into the country. But how many people are supporting that?

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I have lived many years within one mile of the Mexican border.
Have seen things you would never believe. In addition have been in almost every country in Central America and many in South America.

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Spent many years in Kingsville and still owned property there until a couple of years ago. We had to sell the place as the ILLEGALS kept breaking in and stealing all or part of our AC. We know as we caught them red handed

Where were you at?

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We were right on the line between El Paso and Socorro, Texas.
One mile north of the Zaragoza International Bridge.

We had hay stolen, tools stolen, illegals living in a drainage pipe, caught an illegal having sex with one of our calves, rifle stolen, illegals attempting to sell us stolen farm implements, tail gate was stolen from my pickup twice.

So many houses in our area where robbed that almost everyone put iron bars on their doors and windows. Almost everyone put sophisticated anti theft devices on their cars and trucks. Saved my pickup twice.

Folks who live in upper end neighborhoods far from the border simply don't get it. These illegals have a totally different attitude.

Making the new gang member do drugs to make sure he’s not an undercover cop: pic.twitter.com/94cis7suLX

— Geiger Capital (@Geiger_Capital) November 17, 2024

Yes NYT...they are exactly the same

Artificial coloring US vs Canada pic.twitter.com/ytgL6QwDV7

— Dr. Eddie Ramirez (@EddieRDMD) November 17, 2024

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Sam Lowry said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Well, if RFK pulls vaccines off the market and turns the US into a third-world cesspool of disease, at least we will have beaten the trans activists at their own game.

Totally worth it!

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Your buddies Biden & Harris have already begun doing that by welcoming in millions of illegals liens. TB & other diseases are way up in the US because of it.

Secondly, RFK is not opposed to all vaxes, only to the experimental kind with inadequate testing & unknown side effects. That's reasonable.

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Americans aren't making babies, so we need immigrants to support our economy.

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The United States already LEADS the WORLD in legal immigration.

Millions of unskilled, undereducated, and in many cases violent; unvetted individuals is not a benefit to any economy.

And only those residing in some kind of insulated environment would believe otherwise.

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I'm not insulated from the problems it causes for a segment of our citizen population. Or at least I'm not unaware of it. It is an overall economic benefit nonetheless. That's the dilemma.

What we need to do is increase legal immigration and streamline the process so we can get more vetted immigrants into the country. But how many people are supporting that?

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I have lived many years within one mile of the Mexican border.
Have seen things you would never believe. In addition have been in almost every country in Central America and many in South America.

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Spent many years in Kingsville and still owned property there until a couple of years ago. We had to sell the place as the ILLEGALS kept breaking in and stealing all or part of our AC. We know as we caught them red handed

Where were you at?

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We were right on the line between El Paso and Socorro, Texas.
One mile north of the Zaragoza International Bridge.

We had hay stolen, tools stolen, illegals living in a drainage pipe, caught an illegal having sex with one of our calves, rifle stolen, illegals attempting to sell us stolen farm implements, tail gate was stolen from my pickup twice.

So many houses in our area where robbed that almost everyone put iron bars on their doors and windows. Almost everyone put sophisticated anti theft devices on their cars and trucks. Saved my pickup twice.

Folks who live in upper end neighborhoods far from the border simply don't get it. These illegals have a totally different attitude.

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Agreed, and add, a ton of them are not Mexican. They are from the countries in the Central America area, and a few from South America. And to add, this is the doorway to USA for terrorists. Biden has said, come on it, we'll let the next Administration deal with you.

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Sam Lowry said:

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historian said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Well, if RFK pulls vaccines off the market and turns the US into a third-world cesspool of disease, at least we will have beaten the trans activists at their own game.

Totally worth it!

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Your buddies Biden & Harris have already begun doing that by welcoming in millions of illegals liens. TB & other diseases are way up in the US because of it.

Secondly, RFK is not opposed to all vaxes, only to the experimental kind with inadequate testing & unknown side effects. That's reasonable.

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Americans aren't making babies, so we need immigrants to support our economy.

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The United States already LEADS the WORLD in legal immigration.

Millions of unskilled, undereducated, and in many cases violent; unvetted individuals is not a benefit to any economy.

And only those residing in some kind of insulated environment would believe otherwise.

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I'm not insulated from the problems it causes for a segment of our citizen population. Or at least I'm not unaware of it. It is an overall economic benefit nonetheless. That's the dilemma.

What we need to do is increase legal immigration and streamline the process so we can get more vetted immigrants into the country. But how many people are supporting that?

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I have lived many years within one mile of the Mexican border.
Have seen things you would never believe. In addition have been in almost every country in Central America and many in South America.

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Spent many years in Kingsville and still owned property there until a couple of years ago. We had to sell the place as the ILLEGALS kept breaking in and stealing all or part of our AC. We know as we caught them red handed

Where were you at?

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We were right on the line between El Paso and Socorro, Texas.
One mile north of the Zaragoza International Bridge.

We had hay stolen, tools stolen, illegals living in a drainage pipe, caught an illegal having sex with one of our calves, rifle stolen, illegals attempting to sell us stolen farm implements, tail gate was stolen from my pickup twice.

So many houses in our area where robbed that almost everyone put iron bars on their doors and windows. Almost everyone put sophisticated anti theft devices on their cars and trucks. Saved my pickup twice.

Folks who live in upper end neighborhoods far from the border simply don't get it. These illegals have a totally different attitude.

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Agreed, and add, a ton of them are not Mexican. They are from the countries in the Central America area, and a few from South America. And to add, this is the doorway to USA for terrorists. Biden has said, come on it, we'll let the next Administration deal with you.

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Biden had obvious signs of dementia even back in 2020.
Which is why his campaign handlers hid him out in his basement. ( 81 million votes….yeah right ).

As President Biden's puppet masters immediately overturned Trumps EO's controlling the southern border. They intentionally open up the border to millions of illegals. The vast majority of whom could not read or write English, were totally unskilled , and possessed less than an 8th grade education.

Many were diseased, violent or had mental illnesses.

These individuals are not a 'benefit' to any economy and only a complete fool would pretend otherwise.

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Trump, Walz, Tulsi Gabbard and RFK just on UFC 309 in NYC. Love it!

Taking NY back from the brink of hell...

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Trump has some amazing instincts.

His BRO popularity just went even higher with every ethnic group.

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good way to put it. He has some testosterone. The Dems have more female hormones though. They just went through menopause. And it was nasty! Tons of hot flashes! The Dems can no longer get pregnant, not because they went through menopause, but because they swore never to have sex again.

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And if they do get pregnant, it's guaranteed they will kill their babies. The neo-pagans must keep the blood flowing for Baal, Molech, or whatever stand-in for Satan they prefer.

Or just stop killing babies. That's a very weak argument.

There are plenty of way to have positive population growth without encouraging criminal behavior & inviting millions of illegals into the country. Venezuela, Honduras, etc emptied their prisons and asylums to send the dregs our way because of our fascist leaders & their idiotic policies.

It's also possible to encourage people to have babies with tax incentives, economic growth, pro-family social & health care, sane education, and other sensible policies. But the fascists have priorities that are just the opposite: such as their religious obsession with the mass murder of babies.

Sam Lowry said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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historian said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Well, if RFK pulls vaccines off the market and turns the US into a third-world cesspool of disease, at least we will have beaten the trans activists at their own game.

Totally worth it!

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Your buddies Biden & Harris have already begun doing that by welcoming in millions of illegals liens. TB & other diseases are way up in the US because of it.

Secondly, RFK is not opposed to all vaxes, only to the experimental kind with inadequate testing & unknown side effects. That's reasonable.

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Americans aren't making babies, so we need immigrants to support our economy.

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The United States already LEADS the WORLD in legal immigration.

Millions of unskilled, undereducated, and in many cases violent; unvetted individuals is not a benefit to any economy.

And only those residing in some kind of insulated environment would believe otherwise.

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I'm not insulated from the problems it causes for a segment of our citizen population. Or at least I'm not unaware of it. It is an overall economic benefit nonetheless. That's the dilemma.

What we need to do is increase legal immigration and streamline the process so we can get more vetted immigrants into the country. But how many people are supporting that?

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This is actually an idea I agree with. I don't know of any Dem politician who has ever suggested anything like that. I'm unsure if any Republican has either but their isn't much point. Until the fascists get off their insistence on amnesty for millions of criminals, meaningful immigration reform will be impossible. That's the only "reform" they are interested in.

100% are criminals because they violated our laws getting here.

They have NO RIGHT to be in the US but the fascists treat them like honored guests at the expense of American citizens. The Dems act like the mafia.

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Sam Lowry said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Well, if RFK pulls vaccines off the market and turns the US into a third-world cesspool of disease, at least we will have beaten the trans activists at their own game.

Totally worth it!

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Your buddies Biden & Harris have already begun doing that by welcoming in millions of illegals liens. TB & other diseases are way up in the US because of it.

Secondly, RFK is not opposed to all vaxes, only to the experimental kind with inadequate testing & unknown side effects. That's reasonable.

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Americans aren't making babies, so we need immigrants to support our economy.

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The United States already LEADS the WORLD in legal immigration.

Millions of unskilled, undereducated, and in many cases violent; unvetted individuals is not a benefit to any economy.

And only those residing in some kind of insulated environment would believe otherwise.

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I'm not insulated from the problems it causes for a segment of our citizen population. Or at least I'm not unaware of it. It is an overall economic benefit nonetheless. That's the dilemma.

What we need to do is increase legal immigration and streamline the process so we can get more vetted immigrants into the country. But how many people are supporting that?

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Come on Sam. The cost of ILLEGALS in this country is staggering. There is no way it can be spun to be an economic and certainly not a MORAL victory. These are criminals who take jobs away from LEGAL immigrants and US citizens. These are rapists and murderers. They force us to fund ICE and massive Border Patrol. But most of all, every single one of them are CRMINALS

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You forgot:
They dont pay taxes
They send $$ back home
They dont pay for school (and overcrowd them)
They dont pay for healthcare (and overcrowd the ER)
They dont pay for food
They inflate housing costs

Sam is lying yet again. He knows it.

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They pay for food. They pay taxes. They pay ten times as much into Social Security as they cost for education (and if we don't want them to have free education the courts can change the law).

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100% are criminals because they violated our laws getting here.

They have NO RIGHT to be in the US but the fascists treat them like honored guests at the expense of American citizens. The Dems act like the mafia.

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Cartel puppets...

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Or just stop killing babies. That's a very weak argument.

There are plenty of way to have positive population growth without encouraging criminal behavior & inviting millions of illegals into the country. Venezuela, Honduras, etc emptied their prisons and asylums to send the dregs our way because of our fascist leaders & their idiotic policies.

It's also possible to encourage people to have babies with tax incentives, economic growth, pro-family social & health care, sane education, and other sensible policies. But the fascists have priorities that are just the opposite: such as their religious obsession with the mass murder of babies.

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I'm all for incentives, but they don't seem to accomplish all that much.

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Sam Lowry said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Well, if RFK pulls vaccines off the market and turns the US into a third-world cesspool of disease, at least we will have beaten the trans activists at their own game.

Totally worth it!

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Your buddies Biden & Harris have already begun doing that by welcoming in millions of illegals liens. TB & other diseases are way up in the US because of it.

Secondly, RFK is not opposed to all vaxes, only to the experimental kind with inadequate testing & unknown side effects. That's reasonable.

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Americans aren't making babies, so we need immigrants to support our economy.

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The United States already LEADS the WORLD in legal immigration.

Millions of unskilled, undereducated, and in many cases violent; unvetted individuals is not a benefit to any economy.

And only those residing in some kind of insulated environment would believe otherwise.

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I'm not insulated from the problems it causes for a segment of our citizen population. Or at least I'm not unaware of it. It is an overall economic benefit nonetheless. That's the dilemma.

What we need to do is increase legal immigration and streamline the process so we can get more vetted immigrants into the country. But how many people are supporting that?

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Come on Sam. The cost of ILLEGALS in this country is staggering. There is no way it can be spun to be an economic and certainly not a MORAL victory. These are criminals who take jobs away from LEGAL immigrants and US citizens. These are rapists and murderers. They force us to fund ICE and massive Border Patrol. But most of all, every single one of them are CRMINALS

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You forgot:
They dont pay taxes
They send $$ back home
They dont pay for school (and overcrowd them)
They dont pay for healthcare (and overcrowd the ER)
They dont pay for food
They inflate housing costs

Sam is lying yet again. He knows it.

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They pay for food. They pay taxes. They pay ten times as much into Social Security as they cost for education (and if we don't want them to have free education the courts can change the law).

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Mind showing where you are getting your info from?

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Well, if RFK pulls vaccines off the market and turns the US into a third-world cesspool of disease, at least we will have beaten the trans activists at their own game.

Totally worth it!

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"The Science" likes to slander everyone who doesn't mindlessly adhere to all childhood and adult vaccination schedules as "anti-vaccine".

However it is probably a scientifically stronger case to accept the general theory of vaccination while rejecting the ideas that all pathogens must have a vaccine, that the current childhood schedule is good, that there is nothing wrong in the way we manufacture them.

mRNA vaccine (it isn't one) technology should be banned outright along with any tech that isn't killed or live attenuated whole pathogen. Gain of function research should be banned. The childhood vaccination schedule should go back to the 1960s or 1970s. Combination vaccines that only expose the immune system should be banned. There should be at least a two week (and probably one month) moratorium between vaccines so the immune system can regain a level of homeostasis before being exposed to another pathogen.

These are not radical ideas.

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The mRNA vaccine is just that. It has saved millions of lives.

Gain of function research should be judged case by case. Sometimes the benefits outweigh the risks, and other times not.

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Well, if RFK pulls vaccines off the market and turns the US into a third-world cesspool of disease, at least we will have beaten the trans activists at their own game.

Totally worth it!

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Your buddies Biden & Harris have already begun doing that by welcoming in millions of illegals liens. TB & other diseases are way up in the US because of it.

Secondly, RFK is not opposed to all vaxes, only to the experimental kind with inadequate testing & unknown side effects. That's reasonable.

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Americans aren't making babies, so we need immigrants to support our economy.

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The United States already LEADS the WORLD in legal immigration.

Millions of unskilled, undereducated, and in many cases violent; unvetted individuals is not a benefit to any economy.

And only those residing in some kind of insulated environment would believe otherwise.

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I'm not insulated from the problems it causes for a segment of our citizen population. Or at least I'm not unaware of it. It is an overall economic benefit nonetheless. That's the dilemma.

What we need to do is increase legal immigration and streamline the process so we can get more vetted immigrants into the country. But how many people are supporting that?

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Come on Sam. The cost of ILLEGALS in this country is staggering. There is no way it can be spun to be an economic and certainly not a MORAL victory. These are criminals who take jobs away from LEGAL immigrants and US citizens. These are rapists and murderers. They force us to fund ICE and massive Border Patrol. But most of all, every single one of them are CRMINALS

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You forgot:
They dont pay taxes
They send $$ back home
They dont pay for school (and overcrowd them)
They dont pay for healthcare (and overcrowd the ER)
They dont pay for food
They inflate housing costs

Sam is lying yet again. He knows it.

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They pay for food. They pay taxes. They pay ten times as much into Social Security as they cost for education (and if we don't want them to have free education the courts can change the law).

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Mind showing where you are getting your info from?

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His ass.

They dont pay taxes... most are cash only jobs. Many get handouts from liberals. Not sure why social security is paying for kids' education in his world... but the cash jobs dont pay into SS anyway.

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Assassin said:

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KaiBear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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historian said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Well, if RFK pulls vaccines off the market and turns the US into a third-world cesspool of disease, at least we will have beaten the trans activists at their own game.

Totally worth it!

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Your buddies Biden & Harris have already begun doing that by welcoming in millions of illegals liens. TB & other diseases are way up in the US because of it.

Secondly, RFK is not opposed to all vaxes, only to the experimental kind with inadequate testing & unknown side effects. That's reasonable.

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Americans aren't making babies, so we need immigrants to support our economy.

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The United States already LEADS the WORLD in legal immigration.

Millions of unskilled, undereducated, and in many cases violent; unvetted individuals is not a benefit to any economy.

And only those residing in some kind of insulated environment would believe otherwise.

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I'm not insulated from the problems it causes for a segment of our citizen population. Or at least I'm not unaware of it. It is an overall economic benefit nonetheless. That's the dilemma.

What we need to do is increase legal immigration and streamline the process so we can get more vetted immigrants into the country. But how many people are supporting that?

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Come on Sam. The cost of ILLEGALS in this country is staggering. There is no way it can be spun to be an economic and certainly not a MORAL victory. These are criminals who take jobs away from LEGAL immigrants and US citizens. These are rapists and murderers. They force us to fund ICE and massive Border Patrol. But most of all, every single one of them are CRMINALS

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You forgot:
They dont pay taxes
They send $$ back home
They dont pay for school (and overcrowd them)
They dont pay for healthcare (and overcrowd the ER)
They dont pay for food
They inflate housing costs

Sam is lying yet again. He knows it.

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They pay for food. They pay taxes. They pay ten times as much into Social Security as they cost for education (and if we don't want them to have free education the courts can change the law).

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Mind showing where you are getting your info from?

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I assume we can agree they pay for food. See below regarding education and Social Security. They also pay at least $3 billion a year into Medicare.

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The growing number of immigrant students increases the costs to school districts, but by exactly how much per school is not known. The conservative Heritage Foundation claims the cost is about US$2 billion per year, but it didn't break down the cost by the legality of immigration status.

While critics of public education for all focus on cost, the benefits of immigration cannot be ignored. Undocumented immigrants contribute an estimated $13 billion to Social Security contributions they make through payroll taxes when they use a fake Social Security number or someone else's to get a job.

https://theconversation.com/after-more-than-40-years-the-federal-right-to-free-education-for-immigrant-students-finds-itself-in-the-crosshairs-of-conservatives-231360

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About 10% of illegal immigrants are self-employed. The vast majority hold regular jobs.

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About 10% of illegal immigrants are self-employed. The vast majority stole regular jobs from legal immigrants and US citizens

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FIFY

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Or just stop killing babies. That's a very weak argument.

There are plenty of way to have positive population growth without encouraging criminal behavior & inviting millions of illegals into the country. Venezuela, Honduras, etc emptied their prisons and asylums to send the dregs our way because of our fascist leaders & their idiotic policies.

It's also possible to encourage people to have babies with tax incentives, economic growth, pro-family social & health care, sane education, and other sensible policies. But the fascists have priorities that are just the opposite: such as their religious obsession with the mass murder of babies.

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I'm all for incentives, but they don't seem to accomplish all that much.

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Well, bringing in illegals doesn't accomplish much unless you hate the US: increased crime, more deaths from drugs, child trafficking (meaning slavery), huge economic burdens on police departments (schools & health care providers too), taking jobs from Americans, etc. Even if you favor the illegals to help the Dems steal elections, which would make you a cretin & a traitor, then it's still a net loss.

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Assassin said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Married A Horn said:

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Assassin said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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KaiBear said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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historian said:

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Sam Lowry said:

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Jack Bauer said:

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Well, if RFK pulls vaccines off the market and turns the US into a third-world cesspool of disease, at least we will have beaten the trans activists at their own game.

Totally worth it!

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Your buddies Biden & Harris have already begun doing that by welcoming in millions of illegals liens. TB & other diseases are way up in the US because of it.

Secondly, RFK is not opposed to all vaxes, only to the experimental kind with inadequate testing & unknown side effects. That's reasonable.

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Americans aren't making babies, so we need immigrants to support our economy.

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The United States already LEADS the WORLD in legal immigration.

Millions of unskilled, undereducated, and in many cases violent; unvetted individuals is not a benefit to any economy.

And only those residing in some kind of insulated environment would believe otherwise.

---

I'm not insulated from the problems it causes for a segment of our citizen population. Or at least I'm not unaware of it. It is an overall economic benefit nonetheless. That's the dilemma.

What we need to do is increase legal immigration and streamline the process so we can get more vetted immigrants into the country. But how many people are supporting that?

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Come on Sam. The cost of ILLEGALS in this country is staggering. There is no way it can be spun to be an economic and certainly not a MORAL victory. These are criminals who take jobs away from LEGAL immigrants and US citizens. These are rapists and murderers. They force us to fund ICE and massive Border Patrol. But most of all, every single one of them are CRMINALS

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You forgot:
They dont pay taxes
They send $$ back home
They dont pay for school (and overcrowd them)
They dont pay for healthcare (and overcrowd the ER)
They dont pay for food
They inflate housing costs

Sam is lying yet again. He knows it.

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They pay for food. They pay taxes. They pay ten times as much into Social Security as they cost for education (and if we don't want them to have free education the courts can change the law).

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Mind showing where you are getting your info from?

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I assume we can agree they pay for food. See below regarding education and Social Security. They also pay at least $3 billion a year into Medicare.

Quote:

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The growing number of immigrant students increases the costs to school districts, but by exactly how much per school is not known. The conservative Heritage Foundation claims the cost is about US$2 billion per year, but it didn't break down the cost by the legality of immigration status.

While critics of public education for all focus on cost, the benefits of immigration cannot be ignored. Undocumented immigrants contribute an estimated $13 billion to Social Security contributions they make through payroll taxes when they use a fake Social Security number or someone else's to get a job.

https://theconversation.com/after-more-than-40-years-the-federal-right-to-free-education-for-immigrant-students-finds-itself-in-the-crosshairs-of-conservatives-231360

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Illegals aren't paying much for food if they are on govt assistance programs.

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Sam Lowry said:

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About 10% of illegal immigrants are self-employed. The vast majority stole regular jobs from legal immigrants and US citizens

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FIFY

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Not really.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/despite-trumps-claims-data-shows-migrants-arent-taking-jobs-from-black-or-hispanic-people

A fascist propaganda outlet is not a reliable source of info