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I have no problem with mass deportation as it is necessary...

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You could have just stopped there

Anyone who is here illegally (or the Haitians given made up protected status by Biden's executive fiat) need to go

Simple as


*and we need to reform birth right citizenship…many of the most productive nations on earth don't have it because it can be so easily abused

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agreed on birthright. Never understood that one. it needs to be pragmatic with a plan . we round up all the migrant field workers and you want to see some inflation?

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Honestly we can replace them

We don't need 3rd world serfs…we are in the robotics age

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hello corporate farms
goodbye family farms

Migrant/seasonal workers can come into the country legally with a little legislative reform.

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Family farms don't have access to credit to invest in machinery?

They can only survive by using semi-slave labor from the 3rd world?

I have some Midwest farming clients and I will have to ask them about this

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I'm guessing if they are in the Midwest, they probably grow some type of grain rather than fruits or vegetables. Harvesting grain hasn't been hand work for over 100 years.

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That agriculture can supply millions of additional jobs for raw unskilled labor every year is an ignorant fantasy.

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I said nothing about "additional" jobs.

Unless your a writer for MSNBC, don't put words in my mouth. Although, you did a great job using the technique of the progressives so, good job…I guess?

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Easy fella.

Was NOT refering to you or your specific comment.

Rather smashing the leftist lie that agriculture needs or can somehow supply millions of additional jobs for unskilled raw labor types.

Personally I have NEVER hired a wet........as you can not put a man worth only 12 dollars an hour on a $ 300,000 piece of farm machinary and expect things to work out.

And 99% of todays farmers, ranchers, and growers know this.

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Then I apologize for saying you'd be a good writer for MSNBC. Having rethought it, you'd be a better wife since you can argue points never made.

My bad. I'll try to do better next time….


Honey.

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We have been invaded. The use of a national military to repel and remove an invading force is perfectly legitimate.

Local blue state law enforcement is going to deport zero people. Blue state national guards are likewise going to do nothing unless they are federalized.

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When you make that claim in this context, of calling on the military, one wonders where the opposing army is. How far have they made it?

But we have not actually been invaded the past 4 years, it has been border business as usual, except in increased numbers. Other than the scale, nothing changed.

I agree that the National Guard could be used as support, but not as a primary force to round up illegals. Mistakes absolutely will be made. We have deported American citizens before, and if we do this, it will happen. ICE will make fewer mistakes. The military killing illegals, or deporting Americans, would be a horrible look.

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Wow Port and I agree. Really hoping non military is used for the front line "round up" (not a literal exactly) and NG is only used for logistical support. Border patrol/ICE/State LE should be the front lines.

The invading army is the mass number of illegals. It is a paradigm shift and we need to recognize it. Warfare has drastically changed over the centuries. The Huns used horse archers. Henry III implemented the longbow. Sultan Mehmed II used artillery.

When facing an enemy you cannot conquer by having your guys outmatch their guns, you turn to other tactics and methods.

All over the globe, the southern countries know they cannot 'take over' any other the developed North. They have stated that they will do it through immigration and population growth - obliterating the cultures of the countries they are invading. Don't just look at us. Sweden is the best example. Those liberal idiots invited Islam into their country and now the Muslims have a large population and are making demands that parts of Swedish Culture cease because it is offensive to a large segment of the 'Swedish Population.' My old foreign exchange student was very very liberal... annoyingly so. She and her family all had to vote 'right' in the last election because of the lament of the loss of Sweden.

If you don't open your eyes, you won't know your nation, its values and freedoms, and culture are gone until its too late.

They are the invading army. America has opened their eyes. Get on board.

Treason. https://t.co/g4Rck1tRZd

— Catturd ™ (@catturd2) November 22, 2024

LIB,MR BEARS said:

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J.R. said:

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I have no problem with mass deportation as it is necessary...

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You could have just stopped there

Anyone who is here illegally (or the Haitians given made up protected status by Biden's executive fiat) need to go

Simple as


*and we need to reform birth right citizenship…many of the most productive nations on earth don't have it because it can be so easily abused

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agreed on birthright. Never understood that one. it needs to be pragmatic with a plan . we round up all the migrant field workers and you want to see some inflation?

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Honestly we can replace them

We don't need 3rd world serfs…we are in the robotics age

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hello corporate farms
goodbye family farms

Migrant/seasonal workers can come into the country legally with a little legislative reform.

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Family farms don't have access to credit to invest in machinery?

They can only survive by using semi-slave labor from the 3rd world?

I have some Midwest farming clients and I will have to ask them about this

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I'm guessing if they are in the Midwest, they probably grow some type of grain rather than fruits or vegetables. Harvesting grain hasn't been hand work for over 100 years.

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That agriculture can supply millions of additional jobs for raw unskilled labor every year is an ignorant fantasy.

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I said nothing about "additional" jobs.

Unless your a writer for MSNBC, don't put words in my mouth. Although, you did a great job using the technique of the progressives so, good job…I guess?

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Easy fella.

Was NOT refering to you or your specific comment.

Rather smashing the leftist lie that agriculture needs or can somehow supply millions of additional jobs for unskilled raw labor types.

Personally I have NEVER hired a wet........as you can not put a man worth only 12 dollars an hour on a $ 300,000 piece of farm machinary and expect things to work out.

And 99% of todays farmers, ranchers, and growers know this.

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Then I apologize for saying you'd be a good writer for MSNBC. Having rethought it, you'd be a better wife since you can argue points never made.

My bad. I'll try to do better next time….


Honey.

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Not sure why you are so pissed off.

Especially since we agree on this and almost every other topic.

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At some point even illegals will not be trying to enter California lol

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J.R. said:

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I have no problem with mass deportation as it is necessary...

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You could have just stopped there

Anyone who is here illegally (or the Haitians given made up protected status by Biden's executive fiat) need to go

Simple as


*and we need to reform birth right citizenship…many of the most productive nations on earth don't have it because it can be so easily abused

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agreed on birthright. Never understood that one. it needs to be pragmatic with a plan . we round up all the migrant field workers and you want to see some inflation?

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Honestly we can replace them

We don't need 3rd world serfs…we are in the robotics age

---

hello corporate farms
goodbye family farms

Migrant/seasonal workers can come into the country legally with a little legislative reform.

---

Family farms don't have access to credit to invest in machinery?

They can only survive by using semi-slave labor from the 3rd world?

I have some Midwest farming clients and I will have to ask them about this

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I'm guessing if they are in the Midwest, they probably grow some type of grain rather than fruits or vegetables. Harvesting grain hasn't been hand work for over 100 years.

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That agriculture can supply millions of additional jobs for raw unskilled labor every year is an ignorant fantasy.

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I said nothing about "additional" jobs.

Unless your a writer for MSNBC, don't put words in my mouth. Although, you did a great job using the technique of the progressives so, good job…I guess?

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Easy fella.

Was NOT refering to you or your specific comment.

Rather smashing the leftist lie that agriculture needs or can somehow supply millions of additional jobs for unskilled raw labor types.

Personally I have NEVER hired a wet........as you can not put a man worth only 12 dollars an hour on a $ 300,000 piece of farm machinary and expect things to work out.

And 99% of todays farmers, ranchers, and growers know this.

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Then I apologize for saying you'd be a good writer for MSNBC. Having rethought it, you'd be a better wife since you can argue points never made.

My bad. I'll try to do better next time….


Honey.

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Not sure why you are so pissed off.

Especially since we agree on this and almost every other topic.

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lighten up. I've read your snide banter on here just like you've read mine. All in fun

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There's an easy solution to the problem that neither party likes because the dirt secret is that they both like cheap labor.

If you punish the people hiring them and there's no work because they can't be hired they stop coming. There's a 0.0% chance that happens though.

I can take you to a couple very large corporate farms in Ohio where we could round up several hundred illegals in less than an hour.

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If Texas officials wanted to stop the arrival of undocumented immigrants, they could try to make it impossible for them to work here. But that would devastate the state’s economy.

So instead politicians engage in border theater. https://t.co/U8ErarNgbY

— Texas Monthly (@TexasMonthly) November 23, 2024

Yeah... but stop giving them free stuff and jobs and they wont come here. I dont totally disagree (didnt read anything but the title.)

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There's an easy solution to the problem that neither party likes because the dirt secret is that they both like cheap labor.

If you punish the people hiring them and there's no work because they can't be hired they stop coming. There's a 0.0% chance that happens though.

I can take you to a couple very large corporate farms in Ohio where we could round up several hundred illegals in less than an hour.

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Yea, and not just farms

Meating packing plants in Nebraska and restaurants in DFW and Houston are also hot spots for illegal labor

Its systemic throughout our Union

Both parties turn a blind eye to the problem

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whom in the heck do you think cooks your food, even at fancy joints. Latinos (mostly not legal). Not saying it is right, just stating the facts.

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North Carolina is building more houses than California pic.twitter.com/Fu1pFNgMs0

— PUNISHED Sizzler (@CaesarSalad99) November 23, 2024

Yes https://t.co/RX3soBocAT

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 23, 2024

UN is helping fund illegal migration to America https://t.co/g8G6kzD2V7

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 24, 2024

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UN is helping fund illegal migration to America https://t.co/g8G6kzD2V7

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 24, 2024

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UN hasnt been helping countries for years. Still under the influence of the "One World Order" of George Soros and a few other billionaires, plus the faltering EU.

I say cut the funding of the UN off at it's knees. Let them fund it, instead of US taxpayers

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UN and other countries the give to the UN are funded by our Federal Reserve.

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The invading army is the mass number of illegals. It is a paradigm shift and we need to recognize it. Warfare has drastically changed over the centuries. The Huns used horse archers. Henry III implemented the longbow. Sultan Mehmed II used artillery.

When facing an enemy you cannot conquer by having your guys outmatch their guns, you turn to other tactics and methods.

All over the globe, the southern countries know they cannot 'take over' any other the developed North. They have stated that they will do it through immigration and population growth - obliterating the cultures of the countries they are invading. Don't just look at us. Sweden is the best example. Those liberal idiots invited Islam into their country and now the Muslims have a large population and are making demands that parts of Swedish Culture cease because it is offensive to a large segment of the 'Swedish Population.' My old foreign exchange student was very very liberal... annoyingly so. She and her family all had to vote 'right' in the last election because of the lament of the loss of Sweden.

If you don't open your eyes, you won't know your nation, its values and freedoms, and culture are gone until its too late.

They are the invading army. America has opened their eyes. Get on board.

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There is no invading army. You can call desperate refugees an army if it makes it easier for you to want to deport them all. But they don't resemble an army. Further attack on the dictionary imo, a dunce attempt at reducing a large complex problem into a black and white issue.

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The invading army is the mass number of illegals. It is a paradigm shift and we need to recognize it. Warfare has drastically changed over the centuries. The Huns used horse archers. Henry III implemented the longbow. Sultan Mehmed II used artillery.

When facing an enemy you cannot conquer by having your guys outmatch their guns, you turn to other tactics and methods.

All over the globe, the southern countries know they cannot 'take over' any other the developed North. They have stated that they will do it through immigration and population growth - obliterating the cultures of the countries they are invading. Don't just look at us. Sweden is the best example. Those liberal idiots invited Islam into their country and now the Muslims have a large population and are making demands that parts of Swedish Culture cease because it is offensive to a large segment of the 'Swedish Population.' My old foreign exchange student was very very liberal... annoyingly so. She and her family all had to vote 'right' in the last election because of the lament of the loss of Sweden.

If you don't open your eyes, you won't know your nation, its values and freedoms, and culture are gone until its too late.

They are the invading army. America has opened their eyes. Get on board.

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There is no invading army. You can call desperate refugees an army if it makes it easier for you to want to deport them all. But they don't resemble an army. Further attack on the dictionary imo, a dunce attempt at reducing a large complex problem into a black and white issue.

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Double digit IQ post. Tens of millions of foreign invaders coming in to commit crimes and deplete resources allowed by traitors who want the invaders to affect votes, electoral and popular and you want to pretend they are all just crop pickers escaping their own holocausts.

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There's an easy solution to the problem that neither party likes because the dirt secret is that they both like cheap labor.

If you punish the people hiring them and there's no work because they can't be hired they stop coming. There's a 0.0% chance that happens though.

I can take you to a couple very large corporate farms in Ohio where we could round up several hundred illegals in less than an hour.

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Yea, and not just farms

Meating packing plants in Nebraska and restaurants in DFW and Houston are also hot spots for illegal labor

Its systemic throughout our Union

Both parties turn a blind eye to the problem

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whom in the heck do you think cooks your food, even at fancy joints. Latinos (mostly not legal). Not saying it is right, just stating the facts.

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Where is your documentation on those "facts"? I know a lot of chefs, none of them would hire an illegal to "cook your food".

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my documentation is that I have a culinary degree and know people in most kitchens in Dallas from Bar and Grill types to fancy pants. mostly the line cooks are Latino (mostly undocumnnted, except for chain restos. You really only get fully documented apprentices (all colors) in Michelin Stared Restos. They can pay those folks when a table of 4 is $1500 and up. I'm also in the biz. I'm a partner in a local brewery in Dallas , so I think I have a really good feel for this issue.

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nein51 said:

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There's an easy solution to the problem that neither party likes because the dirt secret is that they both like cheap labor.

If you punish the people hiring them and there's no work because they can't be hired they stop coming. There's a 0.0% chance that happens though.

I can take you to a couple very large corporate farms in Ohio where we could round up several hundred illegals in less than an hour.

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Yea, and not just farms

Meating packing plants in Nebraska and restaurants in DFW and Houston are also hot spots for illegal labor

Its systemic throughout our Union

Both parties turn a blind eye to the problem

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whom in the heck do you think cooks your food, even at fancy joints. Latinos (mostly not legal). Not saying it is right, just stating the facts.

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Where is your documentation on those "facts"? I know a lot of chefs, none of them would hire an illegal to "cook your food".

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my documentation is that I have a culinary degree and know people in most kitchens in Dallas from Bar and Grill types to fancy pants. mostly the line cooks are Latino (mostly undocumnnted, except for chain restos. You really only get fully documented apprentices (all colors) in Michelin Stared Restos. They can pay those folks when a table of 4 is $1500 and up. I'm also in the biz. I'm a partner in a local brewery in Dallas , so I think I have a really good feel for this issue.

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First of all, we are talking illegals, not fully documented. You said "even at fancy joints", places that have true chefs. I say that it's BS. Just as you just agreed to. Tell me which bar and grills so-called chefs would hire illegal aliens. Please. Let folks know so they know what is going on in the kitchens they frequent so we can avoid them. These illegals have no place in any industry where folks health can be manipulated. You need to report them to ICE immediately. And please make note of your local brewery so everyone can avoid it as you seem to ignore health issues, documented with the undocumented.

Add, that when your brewery fails as you hired criminals to work for pittances, please pledge here and now to hire hard working legal documented and Americans for it. Shame on you for taking advantage of America

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nein51 said:

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There's an easy solution to the problem that neither party likes because the dirt secret is that they both like cheap labor.

If you punish the people hiring them and there's no work because they can't be hired they stop coming. There's a 0.0% chance that happens though.

I can take you to a couple very large corporate farms in Ohio where we could round up several hundred illegals in less than an hour.

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Yea, and not just farms

Meating packing plants in Nebraska and restaurants in DFW and Houston are also hot spots for illegal labor

Its systemic throughout our Union

Both parties turn a blind eye to the problem

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whom in the heck do you think cooks your food, even at fancy joints. Latinos (mostly not legal). Not saying it is right, just stating the facts.

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Where is your documentation on those "facts"? I know a lot of chefs, none of them would hire an illegal to "cook your food".

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my documentation is that I have a culinary degree and know people in most kitchens in Dallas from Bar and Grill types to fancy pants. mostly the line cooks are Latino (mostly undocumnnted, except for chain restos. You really only get fully documented apprentices (all colors) in Michelin Stared Restos. They can pay those folks when a table of 4 is $1500 and up. I'm also in the biz. I'm a partner in a local brewery in Dallas , so I think I have a really good feel for this issue.

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First of all, we are talking illegals, not fully documented. You said "even at fancy joints", places that have true chefs. I say that it's BS. Just as you just agreed to. Tell me which bar and grills so-called chefs would hire illegal aliens. Please. Let folks know so they know what is going on in the kitchens they frequent so we can avoid them. These illegals have no place in any industry where folks health can be manipulated. You need to report them to ICE immediately. And please make note of your local brewery so everyone can avoid it as you seem to ignore health issues, documented with the undocumented.

Add, that when your brewery fails as you hired criminals to work for pittances, please pledge here and now to hire hard working legal documented and Americans for it. Shame on you for taking advantage of America

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firstly , I would never put any particular names on the internet that may or may not hire illegal line cooks. Secondly, you sir are well out of your element here. Secondly, bar and grills to NOT have "chefs" as you said. They have line cooks. (no Michelin/Brigades) in those places, so that tells me what you do not understand how restaurants work. 3rdly, I appreciate your sentiments wishing me to fail.(most profitable one in town, btw) How thoughtful of you, particularly since I only remarked I have interests in said brewery. We DO NOT hire illegals and I never said anything remotely close. 4th, it isn't my job to report anyone when I have no skin in their game. You think the good ladies (usually) singing amazing tacos and the small taco shops are legal? lol.
I do not post anything that I do not understand the subject. Perhaps , you should stick to what you know.

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There's an easy solution to the problem that neither party likes because the dirt secret is that they both like cheap labor.

If you punish the people hiring them and there's no work because they can't be hired they stop coming. There's a 0.0% chance that happens though.

I can take you to a couple very large corporate farms in Ohio where we could round up several hundred illegals in less than an hour.

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Yea, and not just farms

Meating packing plants in Nebraska and restaurants in DFW and Houston are also hot spots for illegal labor

Its systemic throughout our Union

Both parties turn a blind eye to the problem

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whom in the heck do you think cooks your food, even at fancy joints. Latinos (mostly not legal). Not saying it is right, just stating the facts.

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Where is your documentation on those "facts"? I know a lot of chefs, none of them would hire an illegal to "cook your food".

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my documentation is that I have a culinary degree and know people in most kitchens in Dallas from Bar and Grill types to fancy pants. mostly the line cooks are Latino (mostly undocumnnted, except for chain restos. You really only get fully documented apprentices (all colors) in Michelin Stared Restos. They can pay those folks when a table of 4 is $1500 and up. I'm also in the biz. I'm a partner in a local brewery in Dallas , so I think I have a really good feel for this issue.

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First of all, we are talking illegals, not fully documented. You said "even at fancy joints", places that have true chefs. I say that it's BS. Just as you just agreed to. Tell me which bar and grills so-called chefs would hire illegal aliens. Please. Let folks know so they know what is going on in the kitchens they frequent so we can avoid them. These illegals have no place in any industry where folks health can be manipulated. You need to report them to ICE immediately. And please make note of your local brewery so everyone can avoid it as you seem to ignore health issues, documented with the undocumented.

Add, that when your brewery fails as you hired criminals to work for pittances, please pledge here and now to hire hard working legal documented and Americans for it. Shame on you for taking advantage of America

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firstly , I would never put any particular names on the internet that may or may not hire illegal line cooks. Secondly, you sir are well out of your element here. Secondly, bar and grills to NOT have "chefs" as you said. They have line cooks. (no Michelin/Brigades) in those places, so that tells me what you do not understand how restaurants work. 3rdly, I appreciate your sentiments wishing me to fail.(most profitable one in town, btw) How thoughtful of you, particularly since I only remarked I have interests in said brewery. We DO NOT hire illegals and I never said anything remotely close. 4th, it isn't my job to report anyone when I have no skin in their game. You think the good ladies (usually) singing amazing tacos and the small taco shops are legal? lol.
I do not post anything that I do not understand the subject. Perhaps , you should stick to what you know.

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Why would you not list the names of places that hire illegals when I just pointed out the transmittable diseases that many of them carry? If you know them, and folks die or get TB or HIV from it, doesnt that make you, at least morally, complacent?

And you said "I'm a partner in a local brewery in Dallas , so I think I have a really good feel for this issue." in a discussion about illegals in the industry. How could someone not think that you were hiring criminals to do your dirty work?

And I co-owned a restaurant in... SOUTH TEXAS of all places. I know what happens when you bring in folks without paperwork - and the cartel is behind it. We dealt with the ramifications of firing these folk, when we found documents the documents were forged just to get them hired, with the Juarez Cartel back then. So I do have some experience in this, probably not as much as you as you appeared to, wither you hired them, or at least looked the other way, while others did.

Fess up to the names. You will feel better in the morning.