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J.R. said:

I disagree. Govt has no business telling people what to eat or drink, period. If people want to each crap, that is their choice aside from children in poverty that have little or no parent supervision or $ to buy healthy food (its not cheap)
Then they should have had no business in endorsing the food pyramid, subsidizing food industries to intentionally make Americans fat so that Bar_Bearian could get paid to do medical research for medicines that make dependent on Big Pharma.

In this case, they'd be unwinding their own mistake.


But we know they won't, because Bar_Bearian needs Big Govt to protect Big Pharma so he gets his paychecks, and hundreds of drooling idiots sitting in the Capitol Building need Big Pharma to keep them elected.
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Redbrickbear said:

Porteroso said:

jbbear said:

Porteroso said:

Redbrickbear said:

midgett said:

It's probably been about the past 18 months since I started paying attention to ingredients. It is DIFFICULT to find found without a bunch of unpronounceable ingredients. I'm pretty excited to get some transparency on this issue.

No doubt the food lobby - and that covers a lot of industries - are loading their guns.


Agree,

Shamed to say it's only been since 2020 that I stared take notice of what is in our food

It's a horror show

Cook food for yourself and you don't have to worry so much.

The truth is that these undesirable ingredients are necessary for the convenience of ready to go food. For the most part. Food manufacturers are not adding random chemicals for the heck of it.

Either you can have easy food on the go, and the unwanted ingredients, or you can cook for yourself. You can't have the best of both worlds.

They are absolutely adding dyes and chemicals that are not necessary for preservation because many of the exact foods they produce outside of the US don't include them. They are just being lazy and greedy and the FDA (more corrupt than Biden) is complicit. These companies need to knock it off.

Dyes are different. They are for color... They do take the cheap and fast way, but so is anyone buying premade food. If you are worried about what is in your food, why trust the government to handle that worry for you?



Because we all now have a vested interest in the Heath of all Americans.

(Medicare/Medicaid)

And its even a national security issue (since obese people cant protect the Nation)

[Obesity costs the US healthcare system almost $173 billion a year. Obesity also affects the nation's military readiness. Only 2 in 5 young adults are weight-eligible and physically prepared for basic training]
$173B to the Pharma companies...who ironically heavily invest in the 2-3 Food companies that control everything....they are in business to make money, nothing else. the more people sick, the more meds, etc...
J.R.
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trey3216 said:

J.R. said:

I disagree. Govt has no business telling people what to eat or drink, period. If people want to each crap, that is their choice aside from children in poverty that have little or no parent supervision or $ to buy healthy food (its not cheap)
Then they should have had no business in endorsing the food pyramid, subsidizing food industries to intentionally make Americans fat so that Bar_Bearian could get paid to do medical research for medicines that make dependent on Big Pharma.

In this case, they'd be unwinding their own mistake.


But we know they won't, because Bar_Bearian needs Big Govt to protect Big Pharma so he gets his paychecks, and hundreds of drooling idiots sitting in the Capitol Building need Big Pharma to keep them elected.
don't we keep evolving relative to diets. The food pyramid is obviously outdated. I just don't need the govt to tell Coke that they have to use a particular kind of sugar to use. Everyone knows soft drinks are horrible for you, but if you want to drink them, that is your business, not the govt. To me it is scary to me that the govt tell Coke what sugar to use (sugar is sugar and not good for you, generally speaking. Kinda like the govt to tell us what kind of hops or ABV are acceptable to them. No Bueno.
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Redbrickbear said:



I'm 100% on board with this. We buy very little prepared food and cook most stuff from scratch. We use olive oil for almost everything that needs oil and often use it in place of butter for a number of things. We raise olives and produce and import our own organic EVOO from Sicily. We are working to educate folks here about using EVOO instead of seed oils and also to using high quality olive oil instead of the cheapest per ounce. Ingredients make a difference. It's always fun to watch folks' expressions when they do a side by side tasting of the high quality oil and the cheap stuff.
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forza orsi said:

Redbrickbear said:



I'm 100% on board with this. We buy very little prepared food and cook most stuff from scratch. We use olive oil for almost everything that needs oil and often use it in place of butter for a number of things. We raise olives and produce and import our own organic EVOO from Sicily. We are working to educate folks here about using EVOO instead of seed oils and also to using high quality olive oil instead of the cheapest per ounce. Ingredients make a difference. It's always fun to watch folks' expressions when they do a side by side tasting of the high quality oil and the cheap stuff.
right there with you on EVOO. I only buy the best EVOO I can get my hands on. I use a lighter oil for things such as sauting ect. Good Evoo for sauces ect. Use the good stuff for salad dressings and finishing oil. I do use butter in cases where oil just won't work. Loves me some olive oil cake!
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Redbrickbear said:

Porteroso said:

jbbear said:

Porteroso said:

Redbrickbear said:

midgett said:

It's probably been about the past 18 months since I started paying attention to ingredients. It is DIFFICULT to find found without a bunch of unpronounceable ingredients. I'm pretty excited to get some transparency on this issue.

No doubt the food lobby - and that covers a lot of industries - are loading their guns.


Agree,

Shamed to say it's only been since 2020 that I stared take notice of what is in our food

It's a horror show

Cook food for yourself and you don't have to worry so much.

The truth is that these undesirable ingredients are necessary for the convenience of ready to go food. For the most part. Food manufacturers are not adding random chemicals for the heck of it.

Either you can have easy food on the go, and the unwanted ingredients, or you can cook for yourself. You can't have the best of both worlds.

They are absolutely adding dyes and chemicals that are not necessary for preservation because many of the exact foods they produce outside of the US don't include them. They are just being lazy and greedy and the FDA (more corrupt than Biden) is complicit. These companies need to knock it off.

Dyes are different. They are for color... They do take the cheap and fast way, but so is anyone buying premade food. If you are worried about what is in your food, why trust the government to handle that worry for you?



Because we all now have a vested interest in the Heath of all Americans.

(Medicare/Medicaid)

And its even a national security issue (since obese people cant protect the Nation)

[Obesity costs the US healthcare system almost $173 billion a year. Obesity also affects the nation's military readiness. Only 2 in 5 young adults are weight-eligible and physically prepared for basic training]

It is one thing for the government to take steps to ban harmful food additives. What I'm talking about is individuals trusting the government to make sure whatever they buy at McDonald's is healthy.

As an aside, the way politics flip flops is remarkable. When Obama was in charge, the Republican position was that the government should refrain from enforcing small candy bar sizes, and now the party line is in favor of food restrictions. To an extent I like it, but much like relations with Russia, watching Trump flip Republicans around here and there is just fascinating.

Had Harris won, and wanted to ban some red dye, I have no doubt that forum members would be posting videos of magas guzzling it by the gallon. If Trump bans it, I'm sure I will see videos of libs doing the same.
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J.R. said:

forza orsi said:

Redbrickbear said:



I'm 100% on board with this. We buy very little prepared food and cook most stuff from scratch. We use olive oil for almost everything that needs oil and often use it in place of butter for a number of things. We raise olives and produce and import our own organic EVOO from Sicily. We are working to educate folks here about using EVOO instead of seed oils and also to using high quality olive oil instead of the cheapest per ounce. Ingredients make a difference. It's always fun to watch folks' expressions when they do a side by side tasting of the high quality oil and the cheap stuff.
right there with you on EVOO. I only buy the best EVOO I can get my hands on. I use a lighter oil for things such as sauting ect. Good Evoo for sauces ect. Use the good stuff for salad dressings and finishing oil. I do use butter in cases where oil just won't work. Loves me some olive oil cake!

Olive oil and ricotta cake is fantastic. And olive oil gelato is pretty tasty too. Moroso's made it with our olive oil one Sunday brunch.
J.R.
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forza orsi said:

J.R. said:

forza orsi said:

Redbrickbear said:



I'm 100% on board with this. We buy very little prepared food and cook most stuff from scratch. We use olive oil for almost everything that needs oil and often use it in place of butter for a number of things. We raise olives and produce and import our own organic EVOO from Sicily. We are working to educate folks here about using EVOO instead of seed oils and also to using high quality olive oil instead of the cheapest per ounce. Ingredients make a difference. It's always fun to watch folks' expressions when they do a side by side tasting of the high quality oil and the cheap stuff.
right there with you on EVOO. I only buy the best EVOO I can get my hands on. I use a lighter oil for things such as sauting ect. Good Evoo for sauces ect. Use the good stuff for salad dressings and finishing oil. I do use butter in cases where oil just won't work. Loves me some olive oil cake!

Olive oil and ricotta cake is fantastic. And olive oil gelato is pretty tasty too. Moroso's made it with our olive oil one Sunday brunch.
agree on Gelato...yum
trey3216
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J.R. said:

trey3216 said:

J.R. said:

I disagree. Govt has no business telling people what to eat or drink, period. If people want to each crap, that is their choice aside from children in poverty that have little or no parent supervision or $ to buy healthy food (its not cheap)
Then they should have had no business in endorsing the food pyramid, subsidizing food industries to intentionally make Americans fat so that Bar_Bearian could get paid to do medical research for medicines that make dependent on Big Pharma.

In this case, they'd be unwinding their own mistake.


But we know they won't, because Bar_Bearian needs Big Govt to protect Big Pharma so he gets his paychecks, and hundreds of drooling idiots sitting in the Capitol Building need Big Pharma to keep them elected.
don't we keep evolving relative to diets. The food pyramid is obviously outdated. I just don't need the govt to tell Coke that they have to use a particular kind of sugar to use. Everyone knows soft drinks are horrible for you, but if you want to drink them, that is your business, not the govt. To me it is scary to me that the govt tell Coke what sugar to use (sugar is sugar and not good for you, generally speaking. Kinda like the govt to tell us what kind of hops or ABV are acceptable to them. No Bueno.
Trust me, I'm with you that I don't want the govt mandating stuff like that. I was offering a reason that it'd be righting their own overstep to begin with as tribute.

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trey3216
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forza orsi said:

J.R. said:

forza orsi said:

Redbrickbear said:



I'm 100% on board with this. We buy very little prepared food and cook most stuff from scratch. We use olive oil for almost everything that needs oil and often use it in place of butter for a number of things. We raise olives and produce and import our own organic EVOO from Sicily. We are working to educate folks here about using EVOO instead of seed oils and also to using high quality olive oil instead of the cheapest per ounce. Ingredients make a difference. It's always fun to watch folks' expressions when they do a side by side tasting of the high quality oil and the cheap stuff.
right there with you on EVOO. I only buy the best EVOO I can get my hands on. I use a lighter oil for things such as sauting ect. Good Evoo for sauces ect. Use the good stuff for salad dressings and finishing oil. I do use butter in cases where oil just won't work. Loves me some olive oil cake!

Olive oil and ricotta cake is fantastic. And olive oil gelato is pretty tasty too. Moroso's made it with our olive oil one Sunday brunch.
olive oil gelato is delicious.
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boognish_bear said:


I'm all for it.
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midgett said:

Porteroso said:

Redbrickbear said:

midgett said:

It's probably been about the past 18 months since I started paying attention to ingredients. It is DIFFICULT to find found without a bunch of unpronounceable ingredients. I'm pretty excited to get some transparency on this issue.

No doubt the food lobby - and that covers a lot of industries - are loading their guns.


Agree,

Shamed to say it's only been since 2020 that I stared take notice of what is in our food

It's a horror show

Cook food for yourself and you don't have to worry so much.

The truth is that these undesirable ingredients are necessary for the convenience of ready to go food. For the most part. Food manufacturers are not adding random chemicals for the heck of it.

Either you can have easy food on the go, and the unwanted ingredients, or you can cook for yourself. You can't have the best of both worlds.


Yep. I have a weakness for cheese. Learned that shredded cheese has some chemicals added to keep it from clumping. Yikes! Lean towards block cheese now. My dog definitely agrees!
The only thing added to shredded cheese is cellulose to keep it from clumping. Cellulose is not a dangerous chemical. It's in every plant you eat!
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