understanding socialism, communism, fascism, etc

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Sam Lowry said:

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To hard a stupid and illogical assumption. There is no reason to believe that the GOP will become fascist, a socialist ideology. The GOP has always been the opposite. The Dems are far more likely to be fascist since they are already socialist, many openly admitting it. In fact, they are the true fascists. And that's pretty clear when one properly understands what the term really means.
Fascism was specifically designed as a form of socialism that appealed to conservatives and anti-communists.

Fascism is a form of socialism that focuses primarily on gaining and exploiting power. Conservative anti-communism is also anti-socialist because the emphasis is on individual freedom. That's the opposite of socialism in all its forms.
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historian said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

To hard a stupid and illogical assumption. There is no reason to believe that the GOP will become fascist, a socialist ideology. The GOP has always been the opposite. The Dems are far more likely to be fascist since they are already socialist, many openly admitting it. In fact, they are the true fascists. And that's pretty clear when one properly understands what the term really means.
Fascism was specifically designed as a form of socialism that appealed to conservatives and anti-communists.

Fascism is a form of socialism that focuses primarily on gaining and exploiting power. Conservative anti-communism is also anti-socialist because the emphasis is on individual freedom. That's the opposite of socialism in all its forms.
Or so the literal-minded Germans thought.
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Sam Lowry said:

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To hard a stupid and illogical assumption. There is no reason to believe that the GOP will become fascist, a socialist ideology. The GOP has always been the opposite. The Dems are far more likely to be fascist since they are already socialist, many openly admitting it. In fact, they are the true fascists. And that's pretty clear when one properly understands what the term really means.
Fascism was specifically designed as a form of socialism that appealed to conservatives and anti-communists.
Communism, fascism and socialism differ in economic policy, but they all utilize the extreme force of government to carry out their agenda.

Both democrats and GOP could gain extreme power, but we have limited government baked into our constitution which makes that very difficult to pull off legally.

I would make the case that the establishment is closer to fascism because they utilize bureaucracy and sketchy funding like USAID to carry out their agenda. They're trying to bypass our constitution by being a 4th branch of government. Left leaning individuals are MUCH more inclined to exhibit this kind of behavior.
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Doc Holliday said:

Sam Lowry said:

historian said:

To hard a stupid and illogical assumption. There is no reason to believe that the GOP will become fascist, a socialist ideology. The GOP has always been the opposite. The Dems are far more likely to be fascist since they are already socialist, many openly admitting it. In fact, they are the true fascists. And that's pretty clear when one properly understands what the term really means.
Fascism was specifically designed as a form of socialism that appealed to conservatives and anti-communists.
Communism, fascism and socialism differ in economic policy, but they all utilize the extreme force of government to carry out their agenda.
This is not hard: communism, fascism, socialism, capitalism, mercantilism, etc. are ECONOMIC SYSTEMS.

Monarchy, democracy, authoritarianism, oligarchy, etc. are POLITICAL SYSTEMS.

One could easily have a fascist or socialist state in a democracy - in fact many democracies are quasi-socialist. Theoretically, one could have a authoritarian-capitalist state, which China sort of tried but fell back into more fascism.
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The only of those economic systems based on freedom is capitalism.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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The only of those economic systems based on freedom is capitalism.
That's a difference question.

Theoretically, a democracy could vote to be fascist, socialist, communist, mercantilist, etc. ... so not sure you're exactly right.

Freedom has nothing to do with economic systems. There could be freedom or no freedom in any of the above.
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Harrison Bergeron said:

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The only of those economic systems based on freedom is capitalism.
That's a difference question.

Theoretically, a democracy could vote to be fascist, socialist, communist, mercantilist, etc. ... so not sure you're exactly right.

Freedom has nothing to do with economic systems. There could be freedom or no freedom in any of the above.

Actually, democracy is chaotic and unstable. Which is why the US is a republic. Democracy, simply put, is majority rule. That's it. The majority can do whatever they want and no one can differ. A lynch mob is a great example of democracy in action.

Freedom is at the heart of capitalism: laissez faire literally means the government keeps its hands off as much as possible resulting in the people, millions of individuals, having the freedom to make their own choices. Other economic systems might involve freedom but usually considerably less. Socialism and all its variations take away freedoms with the state making all the decisions and the people paying the price. That helps to explain why they create gulags, concentration camps, and other horrors to terrorize their populations.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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historian said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

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The only of those economic systems based on freedom is capitalism.
That's a difference question.

Theoretically, a democracy could vote to be fascist, socialist, communist, mercantilist, etc. ... so not sure you're exactly right.

Freedom has nothing to do with economic systems. There could be freedom or no freedom in any of the above.

Actually, democracy is chaotic and unstable. Which is why the US is a republic. Democracy, simply put, is majority rule. That's it. The majority can do whatever they want and no one can differ. A lynch mob is a great example of democracy in action.

Freedom is at the heart of capitalism: laissez faire literally means the government keeps its hands off as much as possible resulting in the people, millions of individuals, having the freedom to make their own choices. Other economic systems might involve freedom but usually considerably less. Socialism and all its variations take away freedoms with the state making all the decisions and the people paying the price. That helps to explain why they create gulags, concentration camps, and other horrors to terrorize their populations.
Of course. No question certain economic systems align with certain political systems practically ... hence the "theoretically."

My biggest pet peeve is 99.99% of the people that use "fascism" have no idea what it means. We have such a stupid country, especially journos.
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That ignorance is why I insist on using it when it's appropriate. I am determined to use the term accurately and sometimes I can educate people.
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“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
 
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