Anchor babies and the 14th amendment

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

What other cases has SCOTUS interpreted "subject to legal jurisdiction"?

If there are multiple cases, is there consistency in the interpretation?


They were not legal or illegal as the concept didn't exist until the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882.

What you (Trump) is suggesting is we change the long standing belief that being born here makes you a citizen.


Does that mean Baron has to go?


I'm suggesting nothing. I'm bringing up the irony of liberals wanting a strict interpretation of the writing of the 14th and conservatives wanting a looser interpretation. Those are opposing positions to what would normally be the case. "No I am not suggesting but 'bringing up' is somehow different is irony

Personally, I am a strict constitutionalist. I also don't like the "anchor baby" way of granting citizenship to kids of illegals. In this situation, I don't think I get it both ways. Who is 'suggesting' that citizenship be automatically granted to these undocumented parents. A humane approach is needed for these children instead tearing up families and extended families through deportation


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Mitch Blood Green said:

Realitybites said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

What other cases has SCOTUS interpreted "subject to legal jurisdiction"?

If there are multiple cases, is there consistency in the interpretation?


They were not legal or illegal as the concept didn't exist until the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882.

What you (Trump) is suggesting is we change the long standing belief that being born here makes you a citizen.


Does that mean Baron has to go?


What we are suggesting is that the kids of people who break into a toy store don't get to keep the proceeds of the burglary.

Basic common sense.


I'm suggesting that a guy who broke into a toy store 2007 not have his kids born in 2015 punished for his crime before they were born.


That sounds warm and fuzzy but, if I embezzle a couple million over several years allowing my family and I to live beyond our means, should my family remain in the house while I'm in jail? Should they benefit from my criminal activities?
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Waco1947 said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

What other cases has SCOTUS interpreted "subject to legal jurisdiction"?

If there are multiple cases, is there consistency in the interpretation?


They were not legal or illegal as the concept didn't exist until the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882.

What you (Trump) is suggesting is we change the long standing belief that being born here makes you a citizen.


Does that mean Baron has to go?


I'm suggesting nothing. I'm bringing up the irony of liberals wanting a strict interpretation of the writing of the 14th and conservatives wanting a looser interpretation. Those are opposing positions to what would normally be the case. "No I am not suggesting but 'bringing up' is somehow different is irony

Personally, I am a strict constitutionalist. I also don't like the "anchor baby" way of granting citizenship to kids of illegals. In this situation, I don't think I get it both ways. Who is 'suggesting' that citizenship be automatically granted to these undocumented parents. A humane approach is needed for these children instead tearing up families and extended families through deportation



Reading comprehension

I'm discussing anchor babies, not the parents.

ps…TcU thanks you for not stating where you graduated
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Waco1947
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

Waco1947 said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

What other cases has SCOTUS interpreted "subject to legal jurisdiction"?

If there are multiple cases, is there consistency in the interpretation?


They were not legal or illegal as the concept didn't exist until the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882.

What you (Trump) is suggesting is we change the long standing belief that being born here makes you a citizen.


Does that mean Baron has to go?


I'm suggesting nothing. I'm bringing up the irony of liberals wanting a strict interpretation of the writing of the 14th and conservatives wanting a looser interpretation. Those are opposing positions to what would normally be the case. "No I am not suggesting but 'bringing up' is somehow different is irony

Personally, I am a strict constitutionalist. I also don't like the "anchor baby" way of granting citizenship to kids of illegals. In this situation, I don't think I get it both ways. Who is 'suggesting' that citizenship be automatically granted to these undocumented parents. A humane approach is needed for these children instead tearing up families and extended families through deportation



Reading comprehension

I'm discussing anchor babies, not the parents.

ps…TcU thanks you for not stating where you graduated
Babies and parents go together. Yo cannot ignore one side 9f the equation
Waco1947 ,la
LIB,MR BEARS
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Waco1947 said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

Waco1947 said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

What other cases has SCOTUS interpreted "subject to legal jurisdiction"?

If there are multiple cases, is there consistency in the interpretation?


They were not legal or illegal as the concept didn't exist until the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882.

What you (Trump) is suggesting is we change the long standing belief that being born here makes you a citizen.


Does that mean Baron has to go?


I'm suggesting nothing. I'm bringing up the irony of liberals wanting a strict interpretation of the writing of the 14th and conservatives wanting a looser interpretation. Those are opposing positions to what would normally be the case. "No I am not suggesting but 'bringing up' is somehow different is irony

Personally, I am a strict constitutionalist. I also don't like the "anchor baby" way of granting citizenship to kids of illegals. In this situation, I don't think I get it both ways. Who is 'suggesting' that citizenship be automatically granted to these undocumented parents. A humane approach is needed for these children instead tearing up families and extended families through deportation



Reading comprehension

I'm discussing anchor babies, not the parents.

ps…TcU thanks you for not stating where you graduated
Babies and parents go together. Yo cannot ignore one side 9f the equation
That's a great point you're making for deporting the kids of ILLEGAL aliens.

(Reading comprehension isn't the only issue)
Waco1947
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

Waco1947 said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

Waco1947 said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

Mitch Blood Green said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

What other cases has SCOTUS interpreted "subject to legal jurisdiction"?

If there are multiple cases, is there consistency in the interpretation?


They were not legal or illegal as the concept didn't exist until the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882.

What you (Trump) is suggesting is we change the long standing belief that being born here makes you a citizen.


Does that mean Baron has to go?


I'm suggesting nothing. I'm bringing up the irony of liberals wanting a strict interpretation of the writing of the 14th and conservatives wanting a looser interpretation. Those are opposing positions to what would normally be the case. "No I am not suggesting but 'bringing up' is somehow different is irony

Personally, I am a strict constitutionalist. I also don't like the "anchor baby" way of granting citizenship to kids of illegals. In this situation, I don't think I get it both ways. Who is 'suggesting' that citizenship be automatically granted to these undocumented parents. A humane approach is needed for these children instead tearing up families and extended families through deportation



Reading comprehension

I'm discussing anchor babies, not the parents.

ps…TcU thanks you for not stating where you graduated
Babies and parents go together. Yo cannot ignore one side 9f the equation
That's a great point you're making for deporting the kids of ILLEGAL aliens.

(Reading comprehension isn't the only issue)
I am making a case for the consequences of 'mass deportation'. It will ruin the economy.
Deportation is not simple. Residents are all guaranteed due process. You have to find the 11,000,000, give them due process, pay for the transportation back to their country of origin, and diplomatically negotiate with those countries. These countries could simply deny entrance into their countries.
It is not simple - financially, economically, diplomatically, and legally
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