Guy Noir: "I have always considered myself to be pretty conservative."

OK then, please post links to five posts where you criticized Biden prior to 2024.

I don't seem to recall any, but a conservative like yourself should have dozens of them ready to bring up.

Criticizing Joe Biden does not make one a conservative. The quantity of posts does not make one a conservative either. Most of my posts have been policy related and usually deal with the need to stop over spending by the government.

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Criticizing Joe Biden does not make one a conservative. The quantity of posts does not make one a conservative either. Most of my posts have been policy related and usually deal with the need to stop over spending by the government.

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Short answer, no you are not a conservative.

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Guy Noir said:

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Criticizing Joe Biden does not make one a conservative. The quantity of posts does not make one a conservative either. Most of my posts have been policy related and usually deal with the need to stop over spending by the government.

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Short answer, no you are not a conservative.

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and just how in the world would you know his political beliefs are? Project much. You are a fool. You have a really bad habit of telling people who they are when you don't know them. Par for the course . Love how you MAGA Evangelical types can read minds.

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Guy Noir said:

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Criticizing Joe Biden does not make one a conservative. The quantity of posts does not make one a conservative either. Most of my posts have been policy related and usually deal with the need to stop over spending by the government.

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Short answer, no you are not a conservative.

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and just how in the world would you know his political beliefs are? Project much. You are a fool. You have a really bad habit of telling people who they are when you don't know them. Par for the course . Love how you MAGA Evangelical types can read minds.

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People reveal themselves all the time, JR.

You, for example, declare your character and motive with nearly every post. Guy Noir does it less obviously, but plain enough.

And if you think anyone who points out your asinine arrogance is 'MAGA', you'll be calling almost everyone here MAGA over the next four years.

Better get your blood pressure meds renewed, JR. You're gonna need em.

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I have always considered myself to be pretty conservative. That is why I have supported candidates that are conservative spenders and that exhibit conservative moral behavior (e.g. Not having affairs with porn stars which would open them up to extortion). I think it is classless for a politician to promote themselves by selling a Bible with their name on it. Pretending that Trump is a Conservative is a stretch for me to accept.

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If you had trouble this last election cycle determining whether a Trump presidency is preferable to the disastrous, liberal policies of the Biden/Harris admin, then I would submit you aren't all that conservative. Likewise, if you had trouble determining whether you should vote for Trump over Harris or not vote at all, then I would likewise submit you aren't all that conservative.

I agree with you Trump is not a conservative in the traditional sense. I also agree that Trump is a serial philanderer whose personal morals I despise. But as between open borders, foreign wars, record inflation, woke policies and Trump, the choice was a simple one for actual conservatives.

If it wasn't a simple one for you, you might want to perform some introspection. You might not be "pretty conservative."

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Oldbear83 said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Criticizing Joe Biden does not make one a conservative. The quantity of posts does not make one a conservative either. Most of my posts have been policy related and usually deal with the need to stop over spending by the government.

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Short answer, no you are not a conservative.

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and just how in the world would you know his political beliefs are? Project much. You are a fool. You have a really bad habit of telling people who they are when you don't know them. Par for the course . Love how you MAGA Evangelical types can read minds.

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Doesn't take rocket science. If you are all consumed with railing against Trump to the exclusion of ignoring the damage wrought by the liberal policies of the Biden/Harris admin, you aren't really a conservative. If you cannot bring yourself to vote for Trump, you aren't an actual conservative.

If I recall, Guy said he couldn't bring himself to vote Trump. That being the case, I would submit he's not all that conservative.

Mothra said:

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J.R. said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Criticizing Joe Biden does not make one a conservative. The quantity of posts does not make one a conservative either. Most of my posts have been policy related and usually deal with the need to stop over spending by the government.

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Short answer, no you are not a conservative.

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and just how in the world would you know his political beliefs are? Project much. You are a fool. You have a really bad habit of telling people who they are when you don't know them. Par for the course . Love how you MAGA Evangelical types can read minds.

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Doesn't take rocket science. If you are all consumed with railing against Trump to the exclusion of ignoring the damage wrought by the liberal policies of the Biden/Harris admin, you aren't really a conservative. If you cannot bring yourself to vote for Trump, you aren't an actual conservative.

If I recall, Guy said he couldn't bring himself to vote Trump. That being the case, I would submit he's not all that conservative.

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Exactly. Trump is not a conservative. He always has been a Clintonian Democrat ... which begs the question why Democrats hate him so much.

You're 100% correct. It does not take a fine mind to realize that voting is a binary choice - neither may be perfect but one is better than the disaster that has been Biden.

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I have always considered myself to be pretty conservative. That is why I have supported candidates that are conservative spenders and that exhibit conservative moral behavior (e.g. Not having affairs with porn stars which would open them up to extortion). I think it is classless for a politician to promote themselves by selling a Bible with their name on it. Pretending that Trump is a Conservative is a stretch for me to accept.

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I mean as a so-called conservative, you can clearly list some things that Trump did that are conservative, correct? You can list at least a few actions that he's benefited conservative causes, correct?

Your post is embarrassing for a conservative. Who knows if you're really a conservative, but nobody is claiming Trump is a full-blown conservative. Don't know that we've had a full-blown conservative in the last 30+ years. The hope is to move the goal post to the right over time. We aren't going to get a true conservative in a country where nearly half the populace voted for Biden, and a huge percent voted for Harris. You know this, but the TDS crowd has to gripe about everything and won't acknowledge how good his first term really was.

Mothra said:

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J.R. said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Criticizing Joe Biden does not make one a conservative. The quantity of posts does not make one a conservative either. Most of my posts have been policy related and usually deal with the need to stop over spending by the government.

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Short answer, no you are not a conservative.

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and just how in the world would you know his political beliefs are? Project much. You are a fool. You have a really bad habit of telling people who they are when you don't know them. Par for the course . Love how you MAGA Evangelical types can read minds.

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Doesn't take rocket science. If you are all consumed with railing against Trump to the exclusion of ignoring the damage wrought by the liberal policies of the Biden/Harris admin, you aren't really a conservative. If you cannot bring yourself to vote for Trump, you aren't an actual conservative.

If I recall, Guy said he couldn't bring himself to vote Trump. That being the case, I would submit he's not all that conservative.

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I guess you missed it on another thread when I said Trump won fairly and I'll keep doing what I do and not rely on any strain of politician. All about the work around. Trump is a POS and I don't think he is good for the country, but, it's the Orange show now. Biden wasn't either. So, a convicted felon and moral derelict is good? I just think not. Go Merca!

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Mothra said:

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J.R. said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Criticizing Joe Biden does not make one a conservative. The quantity of posts does not make one a conservative either. Most of my posts have been policy related and usually deal with the need to stop over spending by the government.

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Short answer, no you are not a conservative.

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and just how in the world would you know his political beliefs are? Project much. You are a fool. You have a really bad habit of telling people who they are when you don't know them. Par for the course . Love how you MAGA Evangelical types can read minds.

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Doesn't take rocket science. If you are all consumed with railing against Trump to the exclusion of ignoring the damage wrought by the liberal policies of the Biden/Harris admin, you aren't really a conservative. If you cannot bring yourself to vote for Trump, you aren't an actual conservative.

If I recall, Guy said he couldn't bring himself to vote Trump. That being the case, I would submit he's not all that conservative.

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I guess you missed it on another thread when I said Trump won fairly and I'll keep doing what I do and not rely on any strain of politician. All about the work around. Trump is a POS and I don't think he is good for the country, but, it's the Orange show now. Biden wasn't either. So, a convicted felon and moral derelict is good? I just think not. Go Merca!

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Objectively speaking, he absolutely was good for America during his first term. Whether he will have a repeat performance is yet to be seen.

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Mothra said:

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J.R. said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Criticizing Joe Biden does not make one a conservative. The quantity of posts does not make one a conservative either. Most of my posts have been policy related and usually deal with the need to stop over spending by the government.

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Short answer, no you are not a conservative.

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and just how in the world would you know his political beliefs are? Project much. You are a fool. You have a really bad habit of telling people who they are when you don't know them. Par for the course . Love how you MAGA Evangelical types can read minds.

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Doesn't take rocket science. If you are all consumed with railing against Trump to the exclusion of ignoring the damage wrought by the liberal policies of the Biden/Harris admin, you aren't really a conservative. If you cannot bring yourself to vote for Trump, you aren't an actual conservative.

If I recall, Guy said he couldn't bring himself to vote Trump. That being the case, I would submit he's not all that conservative.

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I guess you missed it on another thread when I said Trump won fairly and I'll keep doing what I do and not rely on any strain of politician. All about the work around. Trump is a POS and I don't think he is good for the country, but, it's the Orange show now. Biden wasn't either. So, a convicted felon and moral derelict is good? I just think not. Go Merca!

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LOL

You have been playing this exact same routine for years.

Not sure why it still works for you , but cheaper than hunting boars I guess.

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If a person is convicted of a couple of felonies I probably would not call the person "a good guy".

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Have you not been paying attention? You probably still wear a mask and get a COVID shot. Dumbocrats are truly stupid.

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Mothra said:

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J.R. said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Criticizing Joe Biden does not make one a conservative. The quantity of posts does not make one a conservative either. Most of my posts have been policy related and usually deal with the need to stop over spending by the government.

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Short answer, no you are not a conservative.

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and just how in the world would you know his political beliefs are? Project much. You are a fool. You have a really bad habit of telling people who they are when you don't know them. Par for the course . Love how you MAGA Evangelical types can read minds.

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Doesn't take rocket science. If you are all consumed with railing against Trump to the exclusion of ignoring the damage wrought by the liberal policies of the Biden/Harris admin, you aren't really a conservative. If you cannot bring yourself to vote for Trump, you aren't an actual conservative.

If I recall, Guy said he couldn't bring himself to vote Trump. That being the case, I would submit he's not all that conservative.

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I guess you missed it on another thread when I said Trump won fairly and I'll keep doing what I do and not rely on any strain of politician. All about the work around. Trump is a POS and I don't think he is good for the country, but, it's the Orange show now. Biden wasn't either. So, a convicted felon and moral derelict is good? I just think not. Go Merca!

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Yes, I read that, but I also have read numerous posts attacking Trump by you ever since - including, once again, this thread. I'd say roughly 80% of your posts on this board are about Trump. That's pretty all-consuming.

Again, if as a self-described "conservative" you cannot see how a Trump presidency would be far preferrable to Biden/Harris, then I would submit you aren't a conservative - by any stretch of the imagination. And I am someone who agrees with you about the kind of person Trump is.

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Mothra said:

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J.R. said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Criticizing Joe Biden does not make one a conservative. The quantity of posts does not make one a conservative either. Most of my posts have been policy related and usually deal with the need to stop over spending by the government.

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Short answer, no you are not a conservative.

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and just how in the world would you know his political beliefs are? Project much. You are a fool. You have a really bad habit of telling people who they are when you don't know them. Par for the course . Love how you MAGA Evangelical types can read minds.

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Doesn't take rocket science. If you are all consumed with railing against Trump to the exclusion of ignoring the damage wrought by the liberal policies of the Biden/Harris admin, you aren't really a conservative. If you cannot bring yourself to vote for Trump, you aren't an actual conservative.

If I recall, Guy said he couldn't bring himself to vote Trump. That being the case, I would submit he's not all that conservative.

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Exactly. Trump is not a conservative. He always has been a Clintonian Democrat ... which begs the question why Democrats hate him so much.

You're 100% correct. It does not take a fine mind to realize that voting is a binary choice - neither may be perfect but one is better than the disaster that has been Biden.

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It is true that I did not vote for Trump. I did not vote for Harris either. I wrote in for Nikki Haley. Thus voting is not truly binary. I was pretty sure Trump was going to win Texas so my vote was pretty much a protest vote. Whether that makes me a Conservative in your perspective is not something I worry about. I do think Trump does disregard the rule of law and is not that much of a Conservative.

The definition of a Conservative has become quite blurred. It does not seem to be (as the word shows) one who conserves. (e.g. conserves spending, conserves the environment, conserves regulations, conserves government). It seems that many of you believe the test of being a conservative is to follow Trump. If that is the case then I definitely am not a MAGA Conservative.

BTW I do support Trump in getting the southern border under control, however the comments Trump has made about annexing Canada and Greenland and Panama are out of line.

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Biden was a guy with dementia. Him being bad doesn't make Trump good. Before the election, any Repub would tell you voting for Trump was distasteful. Now that the sun is shining, you guys will convince yourselves he is a "good" guy.

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Idiot

The Dems NOMINATED a known dementia sufferer in 2020 and would have done so again in 2024 if he hadn't finally been unequivocally exposed in last summers debate.

Yet you continue to play stupid games with that unpleasant piece of reality.

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I'm playing stupid games? No, playing fun games with the idea that Trump is a "good" guy.

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Idiot

You should be focused on the political organization that willingly put a known dementia sufferer in charge of our country's economy, border, and nuclear weapons.

And would have done so again in 2024.

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I should be focused on Democrats? You really think you are in a position to tell me what to think? I dont think anyone should be overly focused on politics at all. It obviously addles the already addled.

I am poking some light hearted fun at the idea of Trump being the "good" guy. If you don't like that, try posting some content. Show us what a "good" guy Trump is, why don't you?

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What's really amusing is that the thought that anyone should waste their time repairing your thought processes.

If your Mommy's money didn't get the job done , there is nothing anyone can do here.

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Even a zealot like you can't defend "Trump is a 'good guy." It's whadabout the Democrats???

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Biden was a guy with dementia. Him being bad doesn't make Trump good. Before the election, any Repub would tell you voting for Trump was distasteful. Now that the sun is shining, you guys will convince yourselves he is a "good" guy.

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I didn't say he was "a good guy", I said that he was the good guy, as in the good guy in the story, the protagonist for a better country.

In the battle of good vs evil, sometimes the hero is like a Patton, crude and distasteful, but built well for battling the forces of evil. Sure, there are several items I don't necessarily like about how he handles himself, but at the end of the day, his guiding principles for the country are usually right on point. That's what bothers you progressives most, he's right and has the moral ground when it comes to policies.

Progressives and their policies are evil, you know this, but you defend it because it's just who you are. Programmed to the very end. Every single progressive will vote to lessen humanity in the long run. They long to be serfs, subjects of the government.

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Yeah "the good guy" instead of "a good guy..." You are moving your goalposts in the wrong direction.

Guy Noir said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Mothra said:

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J.R. said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Criticizing Joe Biden does not make one a conservative. The quantity of posts does not make one a conservative either. Most of my posts have been policy related and usually deal with the need to stop over spending by the government.

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Short answer, no you are not a conservative.

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and just how in the world would you know his political beliefs are? Project much. You are a fool. You have a really bad habit of telling people who they are when you don't know them. Par for the course . Love how you MAGA Evangelical types can read minds.

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Doesn't take rocket science. If you are all consumed with railing against Trump to the exclusion of ignoring the damage wrought by the liberal policies of the Biden/Harris admin, you aren't really a conservative. If you cannot bring yourself to vote for Trump, you aren't an actual conservative.

If I recall, Guy said he couldn't bring himself to vote Trump. That being the case, I would submit he's not all that conservative.

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Exactly. Trump is not a conservative. He always has been a Clintonian Democrat ... which begs the question why Democrats hate him so much.

You're 100% correct. It does not take a fine mind to realize that voting is a binary choice - neither may be perfect but one is better than the disaster that has been Biden.

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It is true that I did not vote for Trump. I did not vote for Harris either. I wrote in for Nikki Haley. Thus voting is not truly binary. I was pretty sure Trump was going to win Texas so my vote was pretty much a protest vote. Whether that makes me a Conservative in your perspective is not something I worry about. I do think Trump does disregard the rule of law and is not that much of a Conservative.

The definition of a Conservative has become quite blurred. It does not seem to be (as the word shows) one who conserves. (e.g. conserves spending, conserves the environment, conserves regulations, conserves government). It seems that many of you believe the test of being a conservative is to follow Trump. If that is the case then I definitely am not a MAGA Conservative.

BTW I do support Trump in getting the southern border under control, however the comments Trump has made about annexing Canada and Greenland and Panama are out of line.

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Would you have voted Trump if Texas was in play?

Mothra said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Mothra said:

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J.R. said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Guy Noir said:

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Criticizing Joe Biden does not make one a conservative. The quantity of posts does not make one a conservative either. Most of my posts have been policy related and usually deal with the need to stop over spending by the government.

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Short answer, no you are not a conservative.

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and just how in the world would you know his political beliefs are? Project much. You are a fool. You have a really bad habit of telling people who they are when you don't know them. Par for the course . Love how you MAGA Evangelical types can read minds.

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Doesn't take rocket science. If you are all consumed with railing against Trump to the exclusion of ignoring the damage wrought by the liberal policies of the Biden/Harris admin, you aren't really a conservative. If you cannot bring yourself to vote for Trump, you aren't an actual conservative.

If I recall, Guy said he couldn't bring himself to vote Trump. That being the case, I would submit he's not all that conservative.

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Exactly. Trump is not a conservative. He always has been a Clintonian Democrat ... which begs the question why Democrats hate him so much.

You're 100% correct. It does not take a fine mind to realize that voting is a binary choice - neither may be perfect but one is better than the disaster that has been Biden.

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It is true that I did not vote for Trump. I did not vote for Harris either. I wrote in for Nikki Haley. Thus voting is not truly binary. I was pretty sure Trump was going to win Texas so my vote was pretty much a protest vote. Whether that makes me a Conservative in your perspective is not something I worry about. I do think Trump does disregard the rule of law and is not that much of a Conservative.

The definition of a Conservative has become quite blurred. It does not seem to be (as the word shows) one who conserves. (e.g. conserves spending, conserves the environment, conserves regulations, conserves government). It seems that many of you believe the test of being a conservative is to follow Trump. If that is the case then I definitely am not a MAGA Conservative.

BTW I do support Trump in getting the southern border under control, however the comments Trump has made about annexing Canada and Greenland and Panama are out of line.

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Would you have voted Trump if Texas was in play?

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I do not know. I would have to hold my nose to vote for him, but I do not think USA would fare well with 4 more years of Biden/Harris policies.

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Biden was a guy with dementia. Him being bad doesn't make Trump good. Before the election, any Repub would tell you voting for Trump was distasteful. Now that the sun is shining, you guys will convince yourselves he is a "good" guy.

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I didn't say he was "a good guy", I said that he was the good guy, as in the good guy in the story, the protagonist for a better country.

In the battle of good vs evil, sometimes the hero is like a Patton, crude and distasteful, but built well for battling the forces of evil. Sure, there are several items I don't necessarily like about how he handles himself, but at the end of the day, his guiding principles for the country are usually right on point. That's what bothers you progressives most, he's right and has the moral ground when it comes to policies.

Progressives and their policies are evil, you know this, but you defend it because it's just who you are. Programmed to the very end. Every single progressive will vote to lessen humanity in the long run. They long to be serfs, subjects of the government.

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Yeah "the good guy" instead of "a good guy..." You are moving your goalposts in the wrong direction.

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I did not move the goal post. You did. Never said "a good guy", though by liberal morality standards, he'd easily qualify for "good".

As stated, he is "the good guy" in the political story against crazy Biden and In the battle of Mainstreet Americans vs the establishment. He is the fighter we need. TDS people are too dense to see that. Pretending that there are other similar right fighters who would do as much and be elected is wishful thinking.