The real reason for Greenland

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2:04a, 1/8/25
The arctic is heating up. Russia and China have partnered and are expanding their activities there. While clearly the stated focus is "resources", the truth is that we know that they will also build up infrastructure that could be used for military purposes.

Short sighted mind virus TDSers, please stop embarrassing yourself. The world is a dangerous place, and Russia and China becoming besties isn't going to make it any safer.

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In reply to TinFoilHatPreacherBear • 4:36a, 1/8/25
TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
The arctic is heating up. Russia and China have partnered and are expanding their activities there. While clearly the stated focus is "resources", the truth is that we know that they will also build up infrastructure that could be used for military purposes.

Short sighted mind virus TDSers, please stop embarrassing yourself. The world is a dangerous place, and Russia and China becoming besties isn't going to make it any safer.



There is no scenario where China and Russia are our besties. We are who their whole ideology is based on destroying. They have made GB a non-player in the 1940's under Stalin and we are next with Xi being the mechanism.

Greenland would be of strategic benefit, if we could get it. How??? There will need to be a scare from Russia or China to prompt action. Status quo, no way.
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In reply to TinFoilHatPreacherBear • 6:16a, 1/8/25
TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
The arctic is heating up. Russia and China have partnered and are expanding their activities there. While clearly the stated focus is "resources", the truth is that we know that they will also build up infrastructure that could be used for military purposes.

Short sighted mind virus TDSers, please stop embarrassing yourself. The world is a dangerous place, and Russia and China becoming besties isn't going to make it any safer.


What? You think China and Russia are more of a threat than climate and white supremacy? The godless Dems will not be happy. LOL
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In reply to TinFoilHatPreacherBear • 6:18a, 1/8/25
TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
The arctic is heating up. Russia and China have partnered and are expanding their activities there. While clearly the stated focus is "resources", the truth is that we know that they will also build up infrastructure that could be used for military purposes.

Short sighted mind virus TDSers, please stop embarrassing yourself. The world is a dangerous place, and Russia and China becoming besties isn't going to make it any safer.



So now global warming is real ?

Who knew ?

Of course Greenland is warming up a little.
But the Danes do NOT want to sell it.

Trump will NOT invade Greenland to possess it.

This is all some kind of political distraction. Silly pulp for the legacy media to chew on.

Much like the ' alien ' drones in New Jersey that the media got all worked up about only a few weeks ago.
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In reply to KaiBear • 6:28a, 1/8/25
KaiBear said:
TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
The arctic is heating up. Russia and China have partnered and are expanding their activities there. While clearly the stated focus is "resources", the truth is that we know that they will also build up infrastructure that could be used for military purposes.

Short sighted mind virus TDSers, please stop embarrassing yourself. The world is a dangerous place, and Russia and China becoming besties isn't going to make it any safer.



So now global warming is real ?

Who knew ?

Of course Greenland is warming up a little.
But the Danes do NOT want to sell it.

Trump will NOT invade Greenland to possess it.

This is all some kind of political distraction. Silly pulp for the legacy media to chew on.

Much like the ' alien ' drones in New Jersey that the media got all worked up about only a few weeks ago.
Same with the Canada.

I think he is going to make a move on the Panama Canal...
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 6:51a, 1/8/25
FLBear5630 said:
KaiBear said:
TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
The arctic is heating up. Russia and China have partnered and are expanding their activities there. While clearly the stated focus is "resources", the truth is that we know that they will also build up infrastructure that could be used for military purposes.

Short sighted mind virus TDSers, please stop embarrassing yourself. The world is a dangerous place, and Russia and China becoming besties isn't going to make it any safer.



So now global warming is real ?

Who knew ?

Of course Greenland is warming up a little.
But the Danes do NOT want to sell it.

Trump will NOT invade Greenland to possess it.

This is all some kind of political distraction. Silly pulp for the legacy media to chew on.

Much like the ' alien ' drones in New Jersey that the media got all worked up about only a few weeks ago.
Same with the Canada.

I think he is going to make a move on the Panama Canal...


LOL

Trump is not invading Panama.

Good grief.

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In reply to KaiBear • 6:55a, 1/8/25
KaiBear said:
FLBear5630 said:
KaiBear said:
TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
The arctic is heating up. Russia and China have partnered and are expanding their activities there. While clearly the stated focus is "resources", the truth is that we know that they will also build up infrastructure that could be used for military purposes.

Short sighted mind virus TDSers, please stop embarrassing yourself. The world is a dangerous place, and Russia and China becoming besties isn't going to make it any safer.



So now global warming is real ?

Who knew ?

Of course Greenland is warming up a little.
But the Danes do NOT want to sell it.

Trump will NOT invade Greenland to possess it.

This is all some kind of political distraction. Silly pulp for the legacy media to chew on.

Much like the ' alien ' drones in New Jersey that the media got all worked up about only a few weeks ago.
Same with the Canada.

I think he is going to make a move on the Panama Canal...


LOL

Trump is not invading Panama.

Good grief.

Who said anything about invading? Any of these? Trump will make a deal, that is what he does. He will try to negotiate a deal with Panama. He is not sending the Marines into the Canal... The military and the Canada stuff is posturing.

Now, he may blow the hell out of some Hamas or Iranian bases to make his point. But, no one said a thing about invading.
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7:45a, 1/8/25
I think the Greenland deal is happening and Greenland wants it to happen. We would probably just build a naval base there so we could keep ships there and fly planes there. ALso, I think Trump works a deal with Panama to pay them some billions to control the canal. With Canada I think this is just Trump trolling them but he will probably strike some deals to benefit us both enconmically. We dont want all of their leftoids voting in our elections so them actually becoming part of the USA should not be on the table.
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In reply to muddybrazos • 8:09a, 1/8/25
muddybrazos said:
I think the Greenland deal is happening and Greenland wants it to happen. We would probably just build a naval base there so we could keep ships there and fly planes there. ALso, I think Trump works a deal with Panama to pay them some billions to control the canal. With Canada I think this is just Trump trolling them but he will probably strike some deals to benefit us both enconmically. We dont want all of their leftoids voting in our elections so them actually becoming part of the USA should not be on the table.
I think this is more or less correct. The people of Greenland will have a voice and influence what Denmark does, and they'll ultimately be in favor of some sort of arrangement with the US. We'll pay off Panama for canal control. That's a no-brainer. The Canada thing is partly trolling the Canadian political landscape (his mocking Trudeau had a pretty quick effect) and partly having people think past the sale. If you're toying with the notion of Canada as a US state, people won't bat an eye at Greenland or the Panama Canal coming under US control.
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8:22a, 1/8/25
Please stop with the "invade" nonsense. Some of you are like the leftist press.

He said he wanted to buy it. He didn't say he wanted to invade it.

Greenland will have more of a US presence without invasion by the time Trump leaves office. That is a good thing because the arctic is going to become an even greater hotbed of activity.



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In reply to muddybrazos • 8:26a, 1/8/25
muddybrazos said:
I think the Greenland deal is happening and Greenland wants it to happen. We would probably just build a naval base there so we could keep ships there and fly planes there. ALso, I think Trump works a deal with Panama to pay them some billions to control the canal. With Canada I think this is just Trump trolling them but he will probably strike some deals to benefit us both enconmically. We dont want all of their leftoids voting in our elections so them actually becoming part of the USA should not be on the table.
Already got that base covered for the most part (air base/now space base but has a deep water port too … AND the USAF's only tugboat; could readily expand that to USN facility As well one would think) … it is also believed (by some but not officially) that we still have a lost nuke out there somewhere after a B-52 crash a few decades back:

Uncle was based there in early 70s as a helo mechanic. Lovely place to spend a tour (lol) …

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pituffik_Space_Base
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 8:32a, 1/8/25
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Greenland would be of strategic benefit, if we could get it. How??? There will need to be a scare from Russia or China to prompt action. Status quo, no way.


Needs a scare?

I mean I just told you that Russia and China have partnered up in the arctic and will be building up infrastructure. Canada is already concerned. You think the West hasn't noticed, just because the TV hasn't told you about it? It's quickly becoming a greater hotbed, so if you cannot see the "scare", I don't know what to tell you. If you don't see why Greenland is important in this situation, from both resource and location perspectives, again, not sure what to say.



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In reply to TinFoilHatPreacherBear • 8:36a, 1/8/25
TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
FLBear5630 said:

Greenland would be of strategic benefit, if we could get it. How??? There will need to be a scare from Russia or China to prompt action. Status quo, no way.


Needs a scare?

I mean I just told you that Russia and China have partnered up in the arctic and will be building up infrastructure. Canada is already concerned. You think the West hasn't noticed, just because the TV hasn't told you about it? It's quickly becoming a greater hotbed, so if you cannot see the "scare", I don't know what to tell you. If you don't see why Greenland is important in this situation, from both resource and location perspectives, again, not sure what to say.

I'll leave it at this, Its a race for the resources and a race for building up infrastructure and a race to build up for strategic protection.



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In reply to TinFoilHatPreacherBear • 10:20a, 1/8/25
TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
FLBear5630 said:

Greenland would be of strategic benefit, if we could get it. How??? There will need to be a scare from Russia or China to prompt action. Status quo, no way.


Needs a scare?

I mean I just told you that Russia and China have partnered up in the arctic and will be building up infrastructure. Canada is already concerned. You think the West hasn't noticed, just because the TV hasn't told you about it? It's quickly becoming a greater hotbed, so if you cannot see the "scare", I don't know what to tell you. If you don't see why Greenland is important in this situation, from both resource and location perspectives, again, not sure what to say.



You and I know that. The US knows that, look at the US Army presence in Alaska it has been beefed up. But the general population has no idea of the risk or the threat. Something that brings that to their attention would help, right now they are more interested in BS social issues. Borders are that big issue. I like Trump in this role and agree with him on the need for more presence. How we do that remains to be seen.
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In reply to FLBear5630 • 10:46a, 1/8/25
FLBear5630 said:
TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
FLBear5630 said:

Greenland would be of strategic benefit, if we could get it. How??? There will need to be a scare from Russia or China to prompt action. Status quo, no way.


Needs a scare?

I mean I just told you that Russia and China have partnered up in the arctic and will be building up infrastructure. Canada is already concerned. You think the West hasn't noticed, just because the TV hasn't told you about it? It's quickly becoming a greater hotbed, so if you cannot see the "scare", I don't know what to tell you. If you don't see why Greenland is important in this situation, from both resource and location perspectives, again, not sure what to say.



You and I know that. The US knows that, look at the US Army presence in Alaska it has been beefed up. But the general population has no idea of the risk or the threat. Something that brings that to their attention would help, right now they are more interested in BS social issues. Borders are that big issue. I like Trump in this role and agree with him on the need for more presence. How we do that remains to be seen.


Greenland has a whopping 56,000 people. Yes 56K. It's podunk. It's the least populated "country" in the world.

So getting Greenland on board may not be difficult. The US could make every one of them millionaires overnight. Average income was 33k USD 8 years ago, 15+ percent are poor. Their country is currently "owned" by Denmark. A deal can be structured so that they will be way better off for generations into the future.

So the question is what will Denmark agree to. Sell outright, maintain interest in a portion of mineral rights, etc.

Not sure why everyone thinks this is so impossible. I honestly don't know if it is "likely", but the US has a lot to work with and offer. And the world is less safe in that area.
Denmark will be taken care of ($$$) however this goes down. We'll see.
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10:47a, 1/8/25
they got an arby's???

might be a good cultural entry point.

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In reply to TinFoilHatPreacherBear • 10:49a, 1/8/25
TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
FLBear5630 said:
TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
FLBear5630 said:

Greenland would be of strategic benefit, if we could get it. How??? There will need to be a scare from Russia or China to prompt action. Status quo, no way.


Needs a scare?

I mean I just told you that Russia and China have partnered up in the arctic and will be building up infrastructure. Canada is already concerned. You think the West hasn't noticed, just because the TV hasn't told you about it? It's quickly becoming a greater hotbed, so if you cannot see the "scare", I don't know what to tell you. If you don't see why Greenland is important in this situation, from both resource and location perspectives, again, not sure what to say.



You and I know that. The US knows that, look at the US Army presence in Alaska it has been beefed up. But the general population has no idea of the risk or the threat. Something that brings that to their attention would help, right now they are more interested in BS social issues. Borders are that big issue. I like Trump in this role and agree with him on the need for more presence. How we do that remains to be seen.


Greenland has a whopping 56,000 people. Yes 56K. It's podunk. It's the least populated "country" in the world.

So getting Greenland on board may not be difficult. The US could make every one of them millionaires overnight. Average income was 33k USD 8 years ago, 15+ percent are poor. Their country is currently "owned" by Denmark. A deal can be structured so that they will be way better off for generations into the future.

So the question is what will Denmark agree to. Sell outright, maintain interest in a portion of mineral rights, etc.

Not sure why everyone thinks this is so impossible. I honestly don't know if it is "likely", but the US has a lot to work with and offer. And the world is less safe in that area.
Denmark will be taken care of ($$$) however this goes down. We'll see.
Agree with all that. And that Denmark will also have a lot of people who think the world is safer having the US in Greenland, even if they don't want to say it out loud.
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11:51a, 1/8/25
I see the strategic reasons for a hopefully peaceful arrangement with/for Greenland due to the Russian moves in the Arctic with China's backing. I have to say I'm scratching my head with some you on your anti-Ukraine takes in light of your position, especially if your concern is Russian/Chinese expansion.
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1:10p, 1/8/25
Why stop US global expansion? Are we afraid of what others will think?

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1:45p, 1/8/25
Greenland is critical geographically as well as for its minerals.
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I see the Nazi party reforming in real time.

There is no scenario where expansion of our borders is a lawful act. Military or financial pressure for a country to surrender it's sovereignty is an act of evil.

Thankfully I have not met a single conservative outside the internet that doesn't think Trump is going off the rails with this bull*****
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In reply to ron.reagan • 2:07p, 1/8/25
ron.reagan said:
I see the Nazi party reforming in real time.

There is no scenario where expansion of our borders is a lawful act. Military or financial pressure for a country to surrender it's sovereignty is an act of evil.

Thankfully I have not met a single conservative outside the internet that doesn't think Trump is going off the rails with this bull*****
It would have to be voluntary and approved by Congress. I can see the strategic advantage, I don't think anyone is saying take it. As with any territory or State, there is a process.
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In reply to Harrison Bergeron • 2:12p, 1/8/25
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Greenland is critical geographically as well as for its minerals.

Yep

[Greenland is believed to possess significant mineral wealth, particularly large deposits of rare earth elements, including neodymium, which could potentially make it the second largest reserve of rare earths globally, second only to China; estimates suggest Greenland could hold around 42 million tons of rare earth oxides]
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In reply to ron.reagan • 4:19p, 1/8/25
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I see the Nazi party reforming in real time.

There is no scenario where expansion of our borders is a lawful act. Military or financial pressure for a country to surrender it's sovereignty is an act of evil.

Thankfully I have not met a single conservative outside the internet that doesn't think Trump is going off the rails with this bull*****


You are in for a frustrating four years.

Might want to load up on some tranquilizers and a dictionary.
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FLBear5630 said:
KaiBear said:
FLBear5630 said:
KaiBear said:
TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
The arctic is heating up. Russia and China have partnered and are expanding their activities there. While clearly the stated focus is "resources", the truth is that we know that they will also build up infrastructure that could be used for military purposes.

Short sighted mind virus TDSers, please stop embarrassing yourself. The world is a dangerous place, and Russia and China becoming besties isn't going to make it any safer.



So now global warming is real ?

Who knew ?

Of course Greenland is warming up a little.
But the Danes do NOT want to sell it.

Trump will NOT invade Greenland to possess it.

This is all some kind of political distraction. Silly pulp for the legacy media to chew on.

Much like the ' alien ' drones in New Jersey that the media got all worked up about only a few weeks ago.
Same with the Canada.

I think he is going to make a move on the Panama Canal...


LOL

Trump is not invading Panama.

Good grief.

Who said anything about invading? Any of these? Trump will make a deal, that is what he does. He will try to negotiate a deal with Panama. He is not sending the Marines into the Canal... The military and the Canada stuff is posturing.

Now, he may blow the hell out of some Hamas or Iranian bases to make his point. But, no one said a thing about invading.

What kind of military action is he not ruling out?

I think he's full of bs, but just pretend he isnt... what kind of military action do you guys think he would take in Greenland or Canada?
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In reply to ron.reagan • 4:59p, 1/8/25
ron.reagan said:
I see the Nazi party reforming in real time.

There is no scenario where expansion of our borders is a lawful act. Military or financial pressure for a country to surrender it's sovereignty is an act of evil.

Thankfully I have not met a single conservative outside the internet that doesn't think Trump is going off the rails with this bull*****

Denmark is not really sovereign though, they are a territory of Denmark and the economy heavily subsidized. Buying the land would not be an act of evil.
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In reply to KaiBear • 5:15p, 1/8/25
KaiBear said:
ron.reagan said:
I see the Nazi party reforming in real time.

There is no scenario where expansion of our borders is a lawful act. Military or financial pressure for a country to surrender it's sovereignty is an act of evil.

Thankfully I have not met a single conservative outside the internet that doesn't think Trump is going off the rails with this bull*****


You are in for a frustrating four years.

Might want to load up on some tranquilizers and a dictionary.
hahahahahahaha

well put
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In reply to KaiBear • 5:25p, 1/8/25
KaiBear said:
ron.reagan said:
I see the Nazi party reforming in real time.

There is no scenario where expansion of our borders is a lawful act. Military or financial pressure for a country to surrender it's sovereignty is an act of evil.

Thankfully I have not met a single conservative outside the internet that doesn't think Trump is going off the rails with this bull*****


You are in for a frustrating four years.

Might want to load up on some tranquilizers and a dictionary.
At least after you run away to Ireland you will probably still be part of the US soon
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In reply to ron.reagan • 5:29p, 1/8/25
ron.reagan said:
I see the Nazi party reforming in real time.


Really?

You see a futurist radical socialist revolutionary movement made up of World War One combat Veterans dedicated to German racial superiority forming up…

I guess we all do live in our own reality bubbles
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6:16p, 1/8/25
And some of you thought the Ukraine war support was expensive. Just wait until you see the price tag on these moves.
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In reply to ron.reagan • 6:21p, 1/8/25
ron.reagan said:
I see the Nazi party reforming in real time.

There is no scenario where expansion of our borders is a lawful act. Military or financial pressure for a country to surrender it's sovereignty is an act of evil.

Thankfully I have not met a single conservative outside the internet that doesn't think Trump is going off the rails with this bull*****


You don't have to keep demonstrating you're a loyal fan of The View.
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In reply to ATL Bear • 6:25p, 1/8/25
ATL Bear said:
And some of you thought the Ukraine war support was expensive. Just wait until you see the price tag on these moves.


Greenland and the Panama Canal would provide actual revenue to the treasury….Ukraine provides nothing but a economic drain

Not to mention the whole endless proxy war with a nuclear power thing as DC spends billions trying to tear it out of the Russian orbit
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In reply to ron.reagan • 6:48p, 1/8/25
ron.reagan said:
I see the Nazi party reforming in real time.

There is no scenario where expansion of our borders is a lawful act..




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In reply to Redbrickbear • 6:49p, 1/8/25
Redbrickbear said:
ATL Bear said:
And some of you thought the Ukraine war support was expensive. Just wait until you see the price tag on these moves.


Greenland and the Panama Canal would provide actual revenue to the treasury….Ukraine provides nothing but a economic drain

Not to mention the whole endless proxy war with a nuclear power thing as DC spends billions trying to tear it out of the Russian orbit
The same way Blackrock and the defense contractors you gripe about? It isn't the U.S. government that would be mining for minerals, or running a canal.
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ron.reagan said:
KaiBear said:
ron.reagan said:
I see the Nazi party reforming in real time.

There is no scenario where expansion of our borders is a lawful act. Military or financial pressure for a country to surrender it's sovereignty is an act of evil.

Thankfully I have not met a single conservative outside the internet that doesn't think Trump is going off the rails with this bull*****


You are in for a frustrating four years.

Might want to load up on some tranquilizers and a dictionary.
At least after you run away to Ireland you will probably still be part of the US soon


With Harris safely out of power; no need to re visit Ireland ( or New Zealand ).

Instead it's back to Maui for a couple of weeks.

Don't wait up.
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