* * Hegseth Confirmation

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Assassin said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Assassin said:

FLBear5630 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

FLBear5630 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

FLBear5630 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

FLBear5630 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

4th and Inches said:

boognish_bear said:


thats 2, now we wait for the 3rd
There is a reason the Military-Industrial Complex has drawn this line in the sand.

I wonder how much she's getting paid by defense contractors.



This is not about that. He said he was modernizing, that means cash cow for contractors. Anyone coming in will support modernization and an increase in military spending.

This is personal, he said things in his hearing that might be overlooked in a Platoon meeting by a Junior Officer or E5 that is not what you want SecDef saying. Especially his contempt for the law (JAG corps) and admitting to ignoring rules of engagement That sounds good in movies, but in real.life a good way to be prosecuted for war crimes. This is SecDef we are talking about.

In addition to the personal life issues that may be overlooked in an elected official but not SecDef or law enforcement agency.

He would be fine as Press Secretary but not SecDef.
You're welcome to your opinion. The issue is that the chief executive should have the ability to appoint whom he wants without the constant attempts to undermine democracy. We just came four four years of the most incompetent administration in history where the only qualifications was being blek or mentally ill.

Lloyd Austin is a buffoon who rode affirmative action to the top. He was so incompetent that he literally disappeared and no one noticed.

The Military-Industrial complex hates Hegseth for a reason ... to me that makes him a great choice.
That is not correct, there is a reason that the Senate has to confirm. The system is set up to make sure that unqualified or high risk people don't get confirmed. Your method is what produced Austin. Austin should not have been in that position for several reasons, the same with Mattis. They were not far enough away from their active duty time. Civilian control of the military should be a non-negotiable. Hegswath has other issues that make him problematic in that role. Notice I said "in that role", not that he can't be in the Trump's White House.

You guys want to just re-write the Constitution based on what you want and who the President is. Checks and Balances have to stay in place. Biden was a disaster because of just what you say we should do with Trump.
Incorrect.

If you would turn of The View and were basically informed, you would realize 90% of the questions asked by the Democrat morons have nothing to do with the job.

The fact that the Military Industrial complex is full force against Hegsepth gives him points with me.

You guys just want to kill democracy and have us ruled by the global elites. The fact an actual soldier might run the Pentagon makes you guys nuts. You'd rather have a mentally ill man in a dress or a Didn't Earn It.


What questions were not about the job? That he doesn't listen to the Attorneys advising him? That the rules of engagement are fluid? That women shouldn't serve? Motherhood should disqualify someone?

He is being appointed. SECDEF and he answered like he was in a bar drinking beers with buddies. That doesn't concern you?
You are misrepresenting what he said. Around rules of engagement, he was talking about men on the ground getting contradictory orders and confusion.

Turn off the View - he never said women should not serve. Do you just make this stuff up?

Actually listen to his words.

I appreciate having someone as SECDEF that has actually served and is more interested in winning wars that extreme culture war crap. Biden turned the military into a Gaystapo and Didn't Earn It lab, which is why recruitment collapsed. Recruitment already has taken off. I guess we can agree to disagree - I like having a SECDEF that energizes the soldiers as opposed to one that energizes the Military-Industrial complex.

No it does not concern me. How many years did you serve? How many tours did you serve - was it in Afghanistan or Iraq?
Yes, I served.

Thanks for your service
You are welcome.

That I or anyone else served does not make their opinions more valid when it comes to our Government. People serve our Nation in different ways. Any citizen has just as much right to an opinion and vote as any other. I am sick of hearing that some Navy SEAL has a more valid say than a Navy cook or tech. They all serve a role. Do your job, whatever it is, that is all that counts. We all have different skill sets. Hegwath does not believe that based on his comments, that is why I can't get behind him. He thinks his opinion is more valid.

What I saw in the 82nd. A JAG officer that serves in the 82nd for 20 years has more credibility than ANY National Guard officer, period. But, that is irrelevant to whether he is qualified.


A. IMO those who spend time overseas on any deployment possess more valid viewpoints.
B. IMO those who saw combat possess even more valuable and insightful opinions.
C. IMO reserve officers were no better or worse than ring knockers It all came down to the individual.
D. Did not realize you were in the 82nd. Well done.


2 years. Dumb, only care about getting drunk and laid (which was next to impossible in Fayetteville, 20,000 guys and 6 women) PFC... Like every other PFC. : ). Funny, you miss those days at 60 and hated them at 22.
At 69 you hate the waste of lives.
I was between Viet Nam and Afghanistan. Desert Storm was done right. So I didn't experience that.
I was in the last draft, then it got canceled. Not a good time. My second biggest regret in life is not serving.

My half brother John wasn't so lucky. Three tours Tiawan and Vietnam, got out went to UNT, recruited by the CIA and three tours in Laos. KIA Paksong, Laos a month before the ceasefire.

TCU press just picked up my book on my and his bio's.


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Stupid Republicans simply can't vote as a party like the Dems do.

This senseless obstruction sends a sign of political weakness leftist media will exploit.
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I hate mitch mcconnell. When does he fade into oblivion?

The other two are just democrats.
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Looked exactly like Dave Aranda just getting off Air Force One. Is he looking for a Secretary of Defense nod?
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Kennedys chances of getting confirmed took a serous hit today.

Republicans simply cannot get their **** together.
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KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Assassin said:

FLBear5630 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

FLBear5630 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

FLBear5630 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

FLBear5630 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

4th and Inches said:

boognish_bear said:


thats 2, now we wait for the 3rd
There is a reason the Military-Industrial Complex has drawn this line in the sand.

I wonder how much she's getting paid by defense contractors.



This is not about that. He said he was modernizing, that means cash cow for contractors. Anyone coming in will support modernization and an increase in military spending.

This is personal, he said things in his hearing that might be overlooked in a Platoon meeting by a Junior Officer or E5 that is not what you want SecDef saying. Especially his contempt for the law (JAG corps) and admitting to ignoring rules of engagement That sounds good in movies, but in real.life a good way to be prosecuted for war crimes. This is SecDef we are talking about.

In addition to the personal life issues that may be overlooked in an elected official but not SecDef or law enforcement agency.

He would be fine as Press Secretary but not SecDef.
You're welcome to your opinion. The issue is that the chief executive should have the ability to appoint whom he wants without the constant attempts to undermine democracy. We just came four four years of the most incompetent administration in history where the only qualifications was being blek or mentally ill.

Lloyd Austin is a buffoon who rode affirmative action to the top. He was so incompetent that he literally disappeared and no one noticed.

The Military-Industrial complex hates Hegseth for a reason ... to me that makes him a great choice.
That is not correct, there is a reason that the Senate has to confirm. The system is set up to make sure that unqualified or high risk people don't get confirmed. Your method is what produced Austin. Austin should not have been in that position for several reasons, the same with Mattis. They were not far enough away from their active duty time. Civilian control of the military should be a non-negotiable. Hegswath has other issues that make him problematic in that role. Notice I said "in that role", not that he can't be in the Trump's White House.

You guys want to just re-write the Constitution based on what you want and who the President is. Checks and Balances have to stay in place. Biden was a disaster because of just what you say we should do with Trump.
Incorrect.

If you would turn of The View and were basically informed, you would realize 90% of the questions asked by the Democrat morons have nothing to do with the job.

The fact that the Military Industrial complex is full force against Hegsepth gives him points with me.

You guys just want to kill democracy and have us ruled by the global elites. The fact an actual soldier might run the Pentagon makes you guys nuts. You'd rather have a mentally ill man in a dress or a Didn't Earn It.


What questions were not about the job? That he doesn't listen to the Attorneys advising him? That the rules of engagement are fluid? That women shouldn't serve? Motherhood should disqualify someone?

He is being appointed. SECDEF and he answered like he was in a bar drinking beers with buddies. That doesn't concern you?
You are misrepresenting what he said. Around rules of engagement, he was talking about men on the ground getting contradictory orders and confusion.

Turn off the View - he never said women should not serve. Do you just make this stuff up?

Actually listen to his words.

I appreciate having someone as SECDEF that has actually served and is more interested in winning wars that extreme culture war crap. Biden turned the military into a Gaystapo and Didn't Earn It lab, which is why recruitment collapsed. Recruitment already has taken off. I guess we can agree to disagree - I like having a SECDEF that energizes the soldiers as opposed to one that energizes the Military-Industrial complex.

No it does not concern me. How many years did you serve? How many tours did you serve - was it in Afghanistan or Iraq?
Yes, I served.

Thanks for your service
You are welcome.

That I or anyone else served does not make their opinions more valid when it comes to our Government. People serve our Nation in different ways. Any citizen has just as much right to an opinion and vote as any other. I am sick of hearing that some Navy SEAL has a more valid say than a Navy cook or tech. They all serve a role. Do your job, whatever it is, that is all that counts. We all have different skill sets. Hegwath does not believe that based on his comments, that is why I can't get behind him. He thinks his opinion is more valid.

What I saw in the 82nd. A JAG officer that serves in the 82nd for 20 years has more credibility than ANY National Guard officer, period. But, that is irrelevant to whether he is qualified.


A. IMO those who spend time overseas on any deployment possess more valid viewpoints.
B. IMO those who saw combat possess even more valuable and insightful opinions.
C. IMO reserve officers were no better or worse than ring knockers It all came down to the individual.
D. Did not realize you were in the 82nd. Well done.


2 years. Dumb, only care about getting drunk and laid (which was next to impossible in Fayetteville, 20,000 guys and 6 women) PFC... Like every other PFC. : ). Funny, you miss those days at 60 and hated them at 22.



At 69 you hate the waste of lives.


I was between Viet Nam and Afghanistan. Desert Storm was done right. So I didn't experience that.


Desert Dtorm was done right unless you lost an arm or leg or had shrapnel throughout your abdomen.

Then you go home to recover and find out absolutely no one outside of your unit and ( maybe ) your family gives a flying *****

That's one thing I love about Trump…….he isn't interested in playing Rambo with other peoples blood.


You keep bringing up the individual cost, I am talking at the National level.

I agree bad **** happens. Not only in combat, but training. We can't control those things. They happen. You don't have to be a infantryman to have risk. VA is another story.

I am talking National policy in regards to SECDEF. Bush did as good as he good. He put together a coalition, made sure there was adequate force, set missions goals and an exit strategy. We didn't go beyond the mission goals and got the troops home. That is what I am talking about. Iraq and Afghanistan were not that way. DS casualties were minimal compared to other wars.
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boognish_bear said:




Ok, he is our SecDef. Now let's see how he does.
Harrison Bergeron
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FLBear5630 said:

boognish_bear said:




Ok, he is our SecDef. Now let's see how he does.


Exactly. And unlike regressives, if he does a poor job i'll call for his firing.

Thank you for your service.
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Harrison Bergeron said:

FLBear5630 said:

boognish_bear said:




Ok, he is our SecDef. Now let's see how he does.


Exactly. And unlike regressives, if he does a poor job i'll call for his firing.

Thank you for your service.
I hope he is successful. If not, that means bad things for our country. I do not think the Military-Industrial Complex has much to worry about, modernization is expensive. DOD budget is going up, not down.

Keep in mind, election promises are aspirational. Governing is practical and compromising. He may make progress but have to give in on some items.
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JD Vance giving him the Oath of Office right now. As they are about to do it, JD says, 'come on up kids' and all 50 of his kids (just rounding it up) come up on stage.
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FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Assassin said:

FLBear5630 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

FLBear5630 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

FLBear5630 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

FLBear5630 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

4th and Inches said:

boognish_bear said:


thats 2, now we wait for the 3rd
There is a reason the Military-Industrial Complex has drawn this line in the sand.

I wonder how much she's getting paid by defense contractors.



This is not about that. He said he was modernizing, that means cash cow for contractors. Anyone coming in will support modernization and an increase in military spending.

This is personal, he said things in his hearing that might be overlooked in a Platoon meeting by a Junior Officer or E5 that is not what you want SecDef saying. Especially his contempt for the law (JAG corps) and admitting to ignoring rules of engagement That sounds good in movies, but in real.life a good way to be prosecuted for war crimes. This is SecDef we are talking about.

In addition to the personal life issues that may be overlooked in an elected official but not SecDef or law enforcement agency.

He would be fine as Press Secretary but not SecDef.
You're welcome to your opinion. The issue is that the chief executive should have the ability to appoint whom he wants without the constant attempts to undermine democracy. We just came four four years of the most incompetent administration in history where the only qualifications was being blek or mentally ill.

Lloyd Austin is a buffoon who rode affirmative action to the top. He was so incompetent that he literally disappeared and no one noticed.

The Military-Industrial complex hates Hegseth for a reason ... to me that makes him a great choice.
That is not correct, there is a reason that the Senate has to confirm. The system is set up to make sure that unqualified or high risk people don't get confirmed. Your method is what produced Austin. Austin should not have been in that position for several reasons, the same with Mattis. They were not far enough away from their active duty time. Civilian control of the military should be a non-negotiable. Hegswath has other issues that make him problematic in that role. Notice I said "in that role", not that he can't be in the Trump's White House.

You guys want to just re-write the Constitution based on what you want and who the President is. Checks and Balances have to stay in place. Biden was a disaster because of just what you say we should do with Trump.
Incorrect.

If you would turn of The View and were basically informed, you would realize 90% of the questions asked by the Democrat morons have nothing to do with the job.

The fact that the Military Industrial complex is full force against Hegsepth gives him points with me.

You guys just want to kill democracy and have us ruled by the global elites. The fact an actual soldier might run the Pentagon makes you guys nuts. You'd rather have a mentally ill man in a dress or a Didn't Earn It.


What questions were not about the job? That he doesn't listen to the Attorneys advising him? That the rules of engagement are fluid? That women shouldn't serve? Motherhood should disqualify someone?

He is being appointed. SECDEF and he answered like he was in a bar drinking beers with buddies. That doesn't concern you?
You are misrepresenting what he said. Around rules of engagement, he was talking about men on the ground getting contradictory orders and confusion.

Turn off the View - he never said women should not serve. Do you just make this stuff up?

Actually listen to his words.

I appreciate having someone as SECDEF that has actually served and is more interested in winning wars that extreme culture war crap. Biden turned the military into a Gaystapo and Didn't Earn It lab, which is why recruitment collapsed. Recruitment already has taken off. I guess we can agree to disagree - I like having a SECDEF that energizes the soldiers as opposed to one that energizes the Military-Industrial complex.

No it does not concern me. How many years did you serve? How many tours did you serve - was it in Afghanistan or Iraq?
Yes, I served.

Thanks for your service
You are welcome.

That I or anyone else served does not make their opinions more valid when it comes to our Government. People serve our Nation in different ways. Any citizen has just as much right to an opinion and vote as any other. I am sick of hearing that some Navy SEAL has a more valid say than a Navy cook or tech. They all serve a role. Do your job, whatever it is, that is all that counts. We all have different skill sets. Hegwath does not believe that based on his comments, that is why I can't get behind him. He thinks his opinion is more valid.

What I saw in the 82nd. A JAG officer that serves in the 82nd for 20 years has more credibility than ANY National Guard officer, period. But, that is irrelevant to whether he is qualified.


A. IMO those who spend time overseas on any deployment possess more valid viewpoints.
B. IMO those who saw combat possess even more valuable and insightful opinions.
C. IMO reserve officers were no better or worse than ring knockers It all came down to the individual.
D. Did not realize you were in the 82nd. Well done.


2 years. Dumb, only care about getting drunk and laid (which was next to impossible in Fayetteville, 20,000 guys and 6 women) PFC... Like every other PFC. : ). Funny, you miss those days at 60 and hated them at 22.



At 69 you hate the waste of lives.


I was between Viet Nam and Afghanistan. Desert Storm was done right. So I didn't experience that.


Desert Dtorm was done right unless you lost an arm or leg or had shrapnel throughout your abdomen.

Then you go home to recover and find out absolutely no one outside of your unit and ( maybe ) your family gives a flying *****

That's one thing I love about Trump…….he isn't interested in playing Rambo with other peoples blood.


You keep bringing up the individual cost, I am talking at the National level.

I agree bad **** happens. Not only in combat, but training. We can't control those things. They happen. You don't have to be a infantryman to have risk. VA is another story.

I am talking National policy in regards to SECDEF. Bush did as good as he good. He put together a coalition, made sure there was adequate force, set missions goals and an exit strategy. We didn't go beyond the mission goals and got the troops home. That is what I am talking about. Iraq and Afghanistan were not that way. DS casualties were minimal compared to other wars.


National policy would be drastically different if it were the sons of the elites coming back in body bags.

Though I do agree Bush had more justification than most in going to war.
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FLBear5630
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KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Assassin said:

FLBear5630 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

FLBear5630 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

FLBear5630 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

FLBear5630 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

4th and Inches said:

boognish_bear said:


thats 2, now we wait for the 3rd
There is a reason the Military-Industrial Complex has drawn this line in the sand.

I wonder how much she's getting paid by defense contractors.



This is not about that. He said he was modernizing, that means cash cow for contractors. Anyone coming in will support modernization and an increase in military spending.

This is personal, he said things in his hearing that might be overlooked in a Platoon meeting by a Junior Officer or E5 that is not what you want SecDef saying. Especially his contempt for the law (JAG corps) and admitting to ignoring rules of engagement That sounds good in movies, but in real.life a good way to be prosecuted for war crimes. This is SecDef we are talking about.

In addition to the personal life issues that may be overlooked in an elected official but not SecDef or law enforcement agency.

He would be fine as Press Secretary but not SecDef.
You're welcome to your opinion. The issue is that the chief executive should have the ability to appoint whom he wants without the constant attempts to undermine democracy. We just came four four years of the most incompetent administration in history where the only qualifications was being blek or mentally ill.

Lloyd Austin is a buffoon who rode affirmative action to the top. He was so incompetent that he literally disappeared and no one noticed.

The Military-Industrial complex hates Hegseth for a reason ... to me that makes him a great choice.
That is not correct, there is a reason that the Senate has to confirm. The system is set up to make sure that unqualified or high risk people don't get confirmed. Your method is what produced Austin. Austin should not have been in that position for several reasons, the same with Mattis. They were not far enough away from their active duty time. Civilian control of the military should be a non-negotiable. Hegswath has other issues that make him problematic in that role. Notice I said "in that role", not that he can't be in the Trump's White House.

You guys want to just re-write the Constitution based on what you want and who the President is. Checks and Balances have to stay in place. Biden was a disaster because of just what you say we should do with Trump.
Incorrect.

If you would turn of The View and were basically informed, you would realize 90% of the questions asked by the Democrat morons have nothing to do with the job.

The fact that the Military Industrial complex is full force against Hegsepth gives him points with me.

You guys just want to kill democracy and have us ruled by the global elites. The fact an actual soldier might run the Pentagon makes you guys nuts. You'd rather have a mentally ill man in a dress or a Didn't Earn It.


What questions were not about the job? That he doesn't listen to the Attorneys advising him? That the rules of engagement are fluid? That women shouldn't serve? Motherhood should disqualify someone?

He is being appointed. SECDEF and he answered like he was in a bar drinking beers with buddies. That doesn't concern you?
You are misrepresenting what he said. Around rules of engagement, he was talking about men on the ground getting contradictory orders and confusion.

Turn off the View - he never said women should not serve. Do you just make this stuff up?

Actually listen to his words.

I appreciate having someone as SECDEF that has actually served and is more interested in winning wars that extreme culture war crap. Biden turned the military into a Gaystapo and Didn't Earn It lab, which is why recruitment collapsed. Recruitment already has taken off. I guess we can agree to disagree - I like having a SECDEF that energizes the soldiers as opposed to one that energizes the Military-Industrial complex.

No it does not concern me. How many years did you serve? How many tours did you serve - was it in Afghanistan or Iraq?
Yes, I served.

Thanks for your service
You are welcome.

That I or anyone else served does not make their opinions more valid when it comes to our Government. People serve our Nation in different ways. Any citizen has just as much right to an opinion and vote as any other. I am sick of hearing that some Navy SEAL has a more valid say than a Navy cook or tech. They all serve a role. Do your job, whatever it is, that is all that counts. We all have different skill sets. Hegwath does not believe that based on his comments, that is why I can't get behind him. He thinks his opinion is more valid.

What I saw in the 82nd. A JAG officer that serves in the 82nd for 20 years has more credibility than ANY National Guard officer, period. But, that is irrelevant to whether he is qualified.


A. IMO those who spend time overseas on any deployment possess more valid viewpoints.
B. IMO those who saw combat possess even more valuable and insightful opinions.
C. IMO reserve officers were no better or worse than ring knockers It all came down to the individual.
D. Did not realize you were in the 82nd. Well done.


2 years. Dumb, only care about getting drunk and laid (which was next to impossible in Fayetteville, 20,000 guys and 6 women) PFC... Like every other PFC. : ). Funny, you miss those days at 60 and hated them at 22.



At 69 you hate the waste of lives.


I was between Viet Nam and Afghanistan. Desert Storm was done right. So I didn't experience that.


Desert Dtorm was done right unless you lost an arm or leg or had shrapnel throughout your abdomen.

Then you go home to recover and find out absolutely no one outside of your unit and ( maybe ) your family gives a flying *****

That's one thing I love about Trump…….he isn't interested in playing Rambo with other peoples blood.


You keep bringing up the individual cost, I am talking at the National level.

I agree bad **** happens. Not only in combat, but training. We can't control those things. They happen. You don't have to be a infantryman to have risk. VA is another story.

I am talking National policy in regards to SECDEF. Bush did as good as he good. He put together a coalition, made sure there was adequate force, set missions goals and an exit strategy. We didn't go beyond the mission goals and got the troops home. That is what I am talking about. Iraq and Afghanistan were not that way. DS casualties were minimal compared to other wars.


National policy would be drastically different if it were the sons of the elites coming back in body bags.

Though I do agree Bush had more justification than most in going to war.
Don't disagree. I think EVERYONE should do 2-3 years as lower enlisted. Gives you a different perspective on life.
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FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

KaiBear said:

FLBear5630 said:

Assassin said:

FLBear5630 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

FLBear5630 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

FLBear5630 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

FLBear5630 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

4th and Inches said:

boognish_bear said:


thats 2, now we wait for the 3rd
There is a reason the Military-Industrial Complex has drawn this line in the sand.

I wonder how much she's getting paid by defense contractors.



This is not about that. He said he was modernizing, that means cash cow for contractors. Anyone coming in will support modernization and an increase in military spending.

This is personal, he said things in his hearing that might be overlooked in a Platoon meeting by a Junior Officer or E5 that is not what you want SecDef saying. Especially his contempt for the law (JAG corps) and admitting to ignoring rules of engagement That sounds good in movies, but in real.life a good way to be prosecuted for war crimes. This is SecDef we are talking about.

In addition to the personal life issues that may be overlooked in an elected official but not SecDef or law enforcement agency.

He would be fine as Press Secretary but not SecDef.
You're welcome to your opinion. The issue is that the chief executive should have the ability to appoint whom he wants without the constant attempts to undermine democracy. We just came four four years of the most incompetent administration in history where the only qualifications was being blek or mentally ill.

Lloyd Austin is a buffoon who rode affirmative action to the top. He was so incompetent that he literally disappeared and no one noticed.

The Military-Industrial complex hates Hegseth for a reason ... to me that makes him a great choice.
That is not correct, there is a reason that the Senate has to confirm. The system is set up to make sure that unqualified or high risk people don't get confirmed. Your method is what produced Austin. Austin should not have been in that position for several reasons, the same with Mattis. They were not far enough away from their active duty time. Civilian control of the military should be a non-negotiable. Hegswath has other issues that make him problematic in that role. Notice I said "in that role", not that he can't be in the Trump's White House.

You guys want to just re-write the Constitution based on what you want and who the President is. Checks and Balances have to stay in place. Biden was a disaster because of just what you say we should do with Trump.
Incorrect.

If you would turn of The View and were basically informed, you would realize 90% of the questions asked by the Democrat morons have nothing to do with the job.

The fact that the Military Industrial complex is full force against Hegsepth gives him points with me.

You guys just want to kill democracy and have us ruled by the global elites. The fact an actual soldier might run the Pentagon makes you guys nuts. You'd rather have a mentally ill man in a dress or a Didn't Earn It.


What questions were not about the job? That he doesn't listen to the Attorneys advising him? That the rules of engagement are fluid? That women shouldn't serve? Motherhood should disqualify someone?

He is being appointed. SECDEF and he answered like he was in a bar drinking beers with buddies. That doesn't concern you?
You are misrepresenting what he said. Around rules of engagement, he was talking about men on the ground getting contradictory orders and confusion.

Turn off the View - he never said women should not serve. Do you just make this stuff up?

Actually listen to his words.

I appreciate having someone as SECDEF that has actually served and is more interested in winning wars that extreme culture war crap. Biden turned the military into a Gaystapo and Didn't Earn It lab, which is why recruitment collapsed. Recruitment already has taken off. I guess we can agree to disagree - I like having a SECDEF that energizes the soldiers as opposed to one that energizes the Military-Industrial complex.

No it does not concern me. How many years did you serve? How many tours did you serve - was it in Afghanistan or Iraq?
Yes, I served.

Thanks for your service
You are welcome.

That I or anyone else served does not make their opinions more valid when it comes to our Government. People serve our Nation in different ways. Any citizen has just as much right to an opinion and vote as any other. I am sick of hearing that some Navy SEAL has a more valid say than a Navy cook or tech. They all serve a role. Do your job, whatever it is, that is all that counts. We all have different skill sets. Hegwath does not believe that based on his comments, that is why I can't get behind him. He thinks his opinion is more valid.

What I saw in the 82nd. A JAG officer that serves in the 82nd for 20 years has more credibility than ANY National Guard officer, period. But, that is irrelevant to whether he is qualified.


A. IMO those who spend time overseas on any deployment possess more valid viewpoints.
B. IMO those who saw combat possess even more valuable and insightful opinions.
C. IMO reserve officers were no better or worse than ring knockers It all came down to the individual.
D. Did not realize you were in the 82nd. Well done.


2 years. Dumb, only care about getting drunk and laid (which was next to impossible in Fayetteville, 20,000 guys and 6 women) PFC... Like every other PFC. : ). Funny, you miss those days at 60 and hated them at 22.



At 69 you hate the waste of lives.


I was between Viet Nam and Afghanistan. Desert Storm was done right. So I didn't experience that.


Desert Dtorm was done right unless you lost an arm or leg or had shrapnel throughout your abdomen.

Then you go home to recover and find out absolutely no one outside of your unit and ( maybe ) your family gives a flying *****

That's one thing I love about Trump…….he isn't interested in playing Rambo with other peoples blood.


You keep bringing up the individual cost, I am talking at the National level.

I agree bad **** happens. Not only in combat, but training. We can't control those things. They happen. You don't have to be a infantryman to have risk. VA is another story.

I am talking National policy in regards to SECDEF. Bush did as good as he good. He put together a coalition, made sure there was adequate force, set missions goals and an exit strategy. We didn't go beyond the mission goals and got the troops home. That is what I am talking about. Iraq and Afghanistan were not that way. DS casualties were minimal compared to other wars.


National policy would be drastically different if it were the sons of the elites coming back in body bags.

Though I do agree Bush had more justification than most in going to war.
Don't disagree. I think EVERYONE should do 2-3 years as lower enlisted. Gives you a different perspective on life.


At least one year.

Let the insulated private school snobs get a reality check.
Let them meet real people and get their hands dirty.

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FLBear5630 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

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Ok, he is our SecDef. Now let's see how he does.


Exactly. And unlike regressives, if he does a poor job i'll call for his firing.

Thank you for your service.
I hope he is successful. If not, that means bad things for our country. I do not think the Military-Industrial Complex has much to worry about, modernization is expensive. DOD budget is going up, not down.

Keep in mind, election promises are aspirational. Governing is practical and compromising. He may make progress but have to give in on some items.



The only thing i will slightly push back on is that modernaiAtion should feature new, innovative technology. The Military Industrial complex is married to the old, 50-year, billion dollar boondoggles.
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Harrison Bergeron said:

FLBear5630 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

FLBear5630 said:

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Ok, he is our SecDef. Now let's see how he does.


Exactly. And unlike regressives, if he does a poor job i'll call for his firing.

Thank you for your service.
I hope he is successful. If not, that means bad things for our country. I do not think the Military-Industrial Complex has much to worry about, modernization is expensive. DOD budget is going up, not down.

Keep in mind, election promises are aspirational. Governing is practical and compromising. He may make progress but have to give in on some items.



The only thing i will slightly push back on is that modernaiAtion should feature new, innovative technology. The Military Industrial complex is married to the old, 50-year, billion dollar boondoggles.
True, but keep in mind at scale deployment. China has great 1st line tech and troops, their bench strength is horrible.

Air force and navy are easier to discuss. Having 100 F-22's is great, but it has to be supplemented with 500 F-15's, 150 F-15Es, and 300 F-35's (numbers are made up) to provide a full picture. That is why they chase the holy grail of airframes that can do multiple roles. A-10 is better at ground support, but the F-35 can do it good enough along with a bunch of other things for the same price. Those are tough decisions. It will be a balance.

Then how do we get them there and supply for the long run? I find it interesting as *****
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Harrison Bergeron said:

FLBear5630 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

FLBear5630 said:

boognish_bear said:




Ok, he is our SecDef. Now let's see how he does.


Exactly. And unlike regressives, if he does a poor job i'll call for his firing.

Thank you for your service.
I hope he is successful. If not, that means bad things for our country. I do not think the Military-Industrial Complex has much to worry about, modernization is expensive. DOD budget is going up, not down.

Keep in mind, election promises are aspirational. Governing is practical and compromising. He may make progress but have to give in on some items.



The only thing i will slightly push back on is that modernaiAtion should feature new, innovative technology. The Military Industrial complex is married to the old, 50-year, billion dollar boondoggles.
Those Ukranian drones that were taking out Russian battle tanks that I showed the other day were impressive as hell. The gals can do that just as good as many of the guys. Let that be their combat Call of Duty
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Assassin said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

FLBear5630 said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

FLBear5630 said:

boognish_bear said:




Ok, he is our SecDef. Now let's see how he does.


Exactly. And unlike regressives, if he does a poor job i'll call for his firing.

Thank you for your service.
I hope he is successful. If not, that means bad things for our country. I do not think the Military-Industrial Complex has much to worry about, modernization is expensive. DOD budget is going up, not down.

Keep in mind, election promises are aspirational. Governing is practical and compromising. He may make progress but have to give in on some items.



The only thing i will slightly push back on is that modernaiAtion should feature new, innovative technology. The Military Industrial complex is married to the old, 50-year, billion dollar boondoggles.
Those Ukranian drones that were taking out Russian battle tanks that I showed the other day were impressive as hell. The gals can do that just as good as many of the guys. Let that be their combat Call of Duty
Women have a history of being snipers during the World Wars. I understand the need for a policy, but much of this is so individual based. I do believe that the standards should not be compromised, but at the same time the standards and testing need to be job based. Not just trying to destroy people, when you start seeing too high a percent of men or women not being able to complete because of injury, than the procress needs to be looked at. The point is to identify and train, not just chase away or eliminate.
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