Mothra said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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Mothra said:

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I find the allegation that it "was Mr. Kennedy's claim that glyphosate is carcinogenica position rejected by most health agencies that enabled him and other lawyers to land a $289 million judgment against Roundup maker Monsanto," very interesting.

So, presumably, he tried a case that got past the dismissal stage, and then the summary judgment stage, went to a jury, and that jury decided, based on a qualified expert(s)' testimony, that glyphosate is carcinogenica, and then was appealed, and affirmed, although the jury award was reduced (which happens all the time).

That would suggest the case wasn't frivolous in the least, and apparently had a pretty solid factual and legal basis.

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The case was frivolous. The science does not back up the claim on Roundup and never has, but juries aren't too bright.

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And yet, the gatekeeper - the court of appeals - upheld it, determining it wasn't frivolous.

Whoops. Have another theory?

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Mothra said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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Mothra said:

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I find the allegation that it "was Mr. Kennedy's claim that glyphosate is carcinogenica position rejected by most health agencies that enabled him and other lawyers to land a $289 million judgment against Roundup maker Monsanto," very interesting.

So, presumably, he tried a case that got past the dismissal stage, and then the summary judgment stage, went to a jury, and that jury decided, based on a qualified expert(s)' testimony, that glyphosate is carcinogenica, and then was appealed, and affirmed, although the jury award was reduced (which happens all the time).

That would suggest the case wasn't frivolous in the least, and apparently had a pretty solid factual and legal basis.

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The case was frivolous. The science does not back up the claim on Roundup and never has, but juries aren't too bright.

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And yet, the gatekeeper - the court of appeals - upheld it, determining it wasn't frivolous.

Whoops. Have another theory?

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Talk to farmers and groundskeepers. They will tell you there is a problem if you use glyphosate a lot. Occasional home users, not so much.

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Mothra said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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Mothra said:

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I find the allegation that it "was Mr. Kennedy's claim that glyphosate is carcinogenica position rejected by most health agencies that enabled him and other lawyers to land a $289 million judgment against Roundup maker Monsanto," very interesting.

So, presumably, he tried a case that got past the dismissal stage, and then the summary judgment stage, went to a jury, and that jury decided, based on a qualified expert(s)' testimony, that glyphosate is carcinogenica, and then was appealed, and affirmed, although the jury award was reduced (which happens all the time).

That would suggest the case wasn't frivolous in the least, and apparently had a pretty solid factual and legal basis.

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The case was frivolous. The science does not back up the claim on Roundup and never has, but juries aren't too bright.

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And yet, the gatekeeper - the court of appeals - upheld it, determining it wasn't frivolous.

Whoops. Have another theory?

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Talk to farmers and groundskeepers. They will tell you there is a problem if you use glyphosate a lot. Occasional home users, not so much.

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The facts suggest otherwise. Cancer rates among farmers are not rising.

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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https://www.allsides.com/news-source/new-republic

Very left publication. You should be more ashamed than Mike Gundy wearing an OAN shirt.

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Mothra said:

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So, milli, the world's dumbest poster, asks for evidence that his hero and "biostitute" Paul Offit was receiving funds from the pharmaceutical companies on another thread, and then when I post evidence of same, instead of responding he tucks his tail and starts a new thread on RFK. LOL. So predictable.

I will just post this again for the hypocrite.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-independent-are-vaccine-defenders/

How Independent Are Vaccine Defenders?

They're some of the most trusted voices in the defense of vaccine safety: the American Academy of Pediatrics, Every Child By Two, and pediatrician Dr. Paul Offit.

But CBS News has found these three have something more in common - strong financial ties to the industry whose products they promote and defend.

The vaccine industry gives millions to the Academy of Pediatrics for conferences, grants, medical education classes and even helped build their headquarters. The totals are kept secret, but public documents reveal bits and pieces.

A $342,000 payment from Wyeth, maker of the pneumococcal vaccine - which makes $2 billion a year in sales.

A $433,000 contribution from Merck, the same year the academy endorsed Merck's HPV vaccine - which made $1.5 billion a year in sales.

Another top donor: Sanofi Aventis, maker of 17 vaccines and a new five-in-one combo shot just added to the childhood vaccine schedule last month.

Every Child By Two, a group that promotes early immunization for all children, admits the group takes money from the vaccine industry, too - but wouldn't tell us how much.

A spokesman told CBS News: "There are simply no conflicts to be unearthed." But guess who's listed as the group's treasurers? Officials from Wyeth and a paid advisor to big pharmaceutical clients.

Then there's Paul Offit, perhaps the most widely-quoted defender of vaccine safety.
He's gone so far as to say babies can tolerate "10,000 vaccines at once."

This is how Offit described himself in a previous interview: "I'm the chief of infectious disease at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia and a professor of pediatrics at Penn's medical school," he said.

Offit was not willing to be interviewed on this subject but like others in this CBS News investigation, he has strong industry ties. In fact, he's a vaccine industry insider.

Offit holds in a $1.5 million dollar research chair at Children's Hospital, funded by Merck. He holds the patent on an anti-diarrhea vaccine he developed with Merck, Rotateq, which has prevented thousands of hospitalizations.

And future royalties for the vaccine were just sold for $182 million cash. Dr. Offit's share of vaccine profits? Unknown.

There's nothing illegal about the financial relationships, but to critics, they pose a serious risk for conflicts of interest. As one member of Congress put it, money from the pharmaceutical industry can shape the practices of those who hold themselves out to be "independent."

The American Academy of Pediatrics, Every Child By Two and Dr. Offit would not agree to interviews, but all told us they're up front about the money they receive, and it doesn't sway their opinions.

Today's immunization schedule now calls for kids to get 55 doses of vaccines by age 6.
Ideally, it makes for a healthier society. But critics worry that industry ties could impact the advice given to the public about all those vaccines.

Offit received a $350,000 grant from Merck to develop the RotaTeq vaccine.

Merck also paid for a chair in vaccinology at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia (CHOP) for Offit to hold. Offit receives an additional $90,000 a year from this chair.

Merck also bought and distributed copies of Offit's book What Every Parent Should Know About Vaccines to physicians.

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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https://www.allsides.com/news-source/new-republic

Very left publication. You should be more ashamed than Mike Gundy wearing an OAN shirt.

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Still waiting for you to respond. Is the WSJ wrong too? Are they lying about how much RFK, Jr. made?

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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Mothra said:

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So, milli, the world's dumbest poster, asks for evidence that his hero and "biostitute" Paul Offit was receiving funds from the pharmaceutical companies on another thread, and then when I post evidence of same, instead of responding he tucks his tail and starts a new thread on RFK. LOL. So predictable.

I will just post this again for the hypocrite.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-independent-are-vaccine-defenders/

How Independent Are Vaccine Defenders?

They're some of the most trusted voices in the defense of vaccine safety: the American Academy of Pediatrics, Every Child By Two, and pediatrician Dr. Paul Offit.

But CBS News has found these three have something more in common - strong financial ties to the industry whose products they promote and defend.

The vaccine industry gives millions to the Academy of Pediatrics for conferences, grants, medical education classes and even helped build their headquarters. The totals are kept secret, but public documents reveal bits and pieces.

A $342,000 payment from Wyeth, maker of the pneumococcal vaccine - which makes $2 billion a year in sales.

A $433,000 contribution from Merck, the same year the academy endorsed Merck's HPV vaccine - which made $1.5 billion a year in sales.

Another top donor: Sanofi Aventis, maker of 17 vaccines and a new five-in-one combo shot just added to the childhood vaccine schedule last month.

Every Child By Two, a group that promotes early immunization for all children, admits the group takes money from the vaccine industry, too - but wouldn't tell us how much.

A spokesman told CBS News: "There are simply no conflicts to be unearthed." But guess who's listed as the group's treasurers? Officials from Wyeth and a paid advisor to big pharmaceutical clients.

Then there's Paul Offit, perhaps the most widely-quoted defender of vaccine safety.
He's gone so far as to say babies can tolerate "10,000 vaccines at once."

This is how Offit described himself in a previous interview: "I'm the chief of infectious disease at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia and a professor of pediatrics at Penn's medical school," he said.

Offit was not willing to be interviewed on this subject but like others in this CBS News investigation, he has strong industry ties. In fact, he's a vaccine industry insider.

Offit holds in a $1.5 million dollar research chair at Children's Hospital, funded by Merck. He holds the patent on an anti-diarrhea vaccine he developed with Merck, Rotateq, which has prevented thousands of hospitalizations.

And future royalties for the vaccine were just sold for $182 million cash. Dr. Offit's share of vaccine profits? Unknown.

There's nothing illegal about the financial relationships, but to critics, they pose a serious risk for conflicts of interest. As one member of Congress put it, money from the pharmaceutical industry can shape the practices of those who hold themselves out to be "independent."

The American Academy of Pediatrics, Every Child By Two and Dr. Offit would not agree to interviews, but all told us they're up front about the money they receive, and it doesn't sway their opinions.

Today's immunization schedule now calls for kids to get 55 doses of vaccines by age 6.
Ideally, it makes for a healthier society. But critics worry that industry ties could impact the advice given to the public about all those vaccines.

Offit received a $350,000 grant from Merck to develop the RotaTeq vaccine.

Merck also paid for a chair in vaccinology at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia (CHOP) for Offit to hold. Offit receives an additional $90,000 a year from this chair.

Merck also bought and distributed copies of Offit's book What Every Parent Should Know About Vaccines to physicians.

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Tuck tail and run? I don't think so, moron. $182 million divided by 500,000 lives saved PER YEAR is $364 per life saved in ONE YEAR. Are you suggesting that number is too high? What number would you suggest? So are you suggesting Offit should work for free and pay for all his research out of his own pocket? Are you ******ed or what?

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Mothra said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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Mothra said:

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So, milli, the world's dumbest poster, asks for evidence that his hero and "biostitute" Paul Offit was receiving funds from the pharmaceutical companies on another thread, and then when I post evidence of same, instead of responding he tucks his tail and starts a new thread on RFK. LOL. So predictable.

I will just post this again for the hypocrite.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-independent-are-vaccine-defenders/

How Independent Are Vaccine Defenders?

They're some of the most trusted voices in the defense of vaccine safety: the American Academy of Pediatrics, Every Child By Two, and pediatrician Dr. Paul Offit.

But CBS News has found these three have something more in common - strong financial ties to the industry whose products they promote and defend.

The vaccine industry gives millions to the Academy of Pediatrics for conferences, grants, medical education classes and even helped build their headquarters. The totals are kept secret, but public documents reveal bits and pieces.

A $342,000 payment from Wyeth, maker of the pneumococcal vaccine - which makes $2 billion a year in sales.

A $433,000 contribution from Merck, the same year the academy endorsed Merck's HPV vaccine - which made $1.5 billion a year in sales.

Another top donor: Sanofi Aventis, maker of 17 vaccines and a new five-in-one combo shot just added to the childhood vaccine schedule last month.

Every Child By Two, a group that promotes early immunization for all children, admits the group takes money from the vaccine industry, too - but wouldn't tell us how much.

A spokesman told CBS News: "There are simply no conflicts to be unearthed." But guess who's listed as the group's treasurers? Officials from Wyeth and a paid advisor to big pharmaceutical clients.

Then there's Paul Offit, perhaps the most widely-quoted defender of vaccine safety.
He's gone so far as to say babies can tolerate "10,000 vaccines at once."

This is how Offit described himself in a previous interview: "I'm the chief of infectious disease at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia and a professor of pediatrics at Penn's medical school," he said.

Offit was not willing to be interviewed on this subject but like others in this CBS News investigation, he has strong industry ties. In fact, he's a vaccine industry insider.

Offit holds in a $1.5 million dollar research chair at Children's Hospital, funded by Merck. He holds the patent on an anti-diarrhea vaccine he developed with Merck, Rotateq, which has prevented thousands of hospitalizations.

And future royalties for the vaccine were just sold for $182 million cash. Dr. Offit's share of vaccine profits? Unknown.

There's nothing illegal about the financial relationships, but to critics, they pose a serious risk for conflicts of interest. As one member of Congress put it, money from the pharmaceutical industry can shape the practices of those who hold themselves out to be "independent."

The American Academy of Pediatrics, Every Child By Two and Dr. Offit would not agree to interviews, but all told us they're up front about the money they receive, and it doesn't sway their opinions.

Today's immunization schedule now calls for kids to get 55 doses of vaccines by age 6.
Ideally, it makes for a healthier society. But critics worry that industry ties could impact the advice given to the public about all those vaccines.

Offit received a $350,000 grant from Merck to develop the RotaTeq vaccine.

Merck also paid for a chair in vaccinology at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia (CHOP) for Offit to hold. Offit receives an additional $90,000 a year from this chair.

Merck also bought and distributed copies of Offit's book What Every Parent Should Know About Vaccines to physicians.

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Tuck tail and run? I don't think so, moron. $182 million divided by 500,000 lives saved PER YEAR is $364 per life saved in ONE YEAR. Are you suggesting that number is too high? What number would you suggest? So are you suggesting Offit should work for free and pay for all his research out of his own pocket? Are you ******ed or what?

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Yes, yes, half a million lives saved, no question. Your arguments are very convincing and you make them well, as evidenced by this thread.

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Married A Horn said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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https://www.allsides.com/news-source/new-republic

Very left publication. You should be more ashamed than Mike Gundy wearing an OAN shirt.

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Still waiting for you to respond. Is the WSJ wrong too? Are they lying about how much RFK, Jr. made?

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Dont call us. We'll call you.

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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Mothra said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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Mothra said:

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So, milli, the world's dumbest poster, asks for evidence that his hero and "biostitute" Paul Offit was receiving funds from the pharmaceutical companies on another thread, and then when I post evidence of same, instead of responding he tucks his tail and starts a new thread on RFK. LOL. So predictable.

I will just post this again for the hypocrite.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-independent-are-vaccine-defenders/

How Independent Are Vaccine Defenders?

They're some of the most trusted voices in the defense of vaccine safety: the American Academy of Pediatrics, Every Child By Two, and pediatrician Dr. Paul Offit.

But CBS News has found these three have something more in common - strong financial ties to the industry whose products they promote and defend.

The vaccine industry gives millions to the Academy of Pediatrics for conferences, grants, medical education classes and even helped build their headquarters. The totals are kept secret, but public documents reveal bits and pieces.

A $342,000 payment from Wyeth, maker of the pneumococcal vaccine - which makes $2 billion a year in sales.

A $433,000 contribution from Merck, the same year the academy endorsed Merck's HPV vaccine - which made $1.5 billion a year in sales.

Another top donor: Sanofi Aventis, maker of 17 vaccines and a new five-in-one combo shot just added to the childhood vaccine schedule last month.

Every Child By Two, a group that promotes early immunization for all children, admits the group takes money from the vaccine industry, too - but wouldn't tell us how much.

A spokesman told CBS News: "There are simply no conflicts to be unearthed." But guess who's listed as the group's treasurers? Officials from Wyeth and a paid advisor to big pharmaceutical clients.

Then there's Paul Offit, perhaps the most widely-quoted defender of vaccine safety.
He's gone so far as to say babies can tolerate "10,000 vaccines at once."

This is how Offit described himself in a previous interview: "I'm the chief of infectious disease at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia and a professor of pediatrics at Penn's medical school," he said.

Offit was not willing to be interviewed on this subject but like others in this CBS News investigation, he has strong industry ties. In fact, he's a vaccine industry insider.

Offit holds in a $1.5 million dollar research chair at Children's Hospital, funded by Merck. He holds the patent on an anti-diarrhea vaccine he developed with Merck, Rotateq, which has prevented thousands of hospitalizations.

And future royalties for the vaccine were just sold for $182 million cash. Dr. Offit's share of vaccine profits? Unknown.

There's nothing illegal about the financial relationships, but to critics, they pose a serious risk for conflicts of interest. As one member of Congress put it, money from the pharmaceutical industry can shape the practices of those who hold themselves out to be "independent."

The American Academy of Pediatrics, Every Child By Two and Dr. Offit would not agree to interviews, but all told us they're up front about the money they receive, and it doesn't sway their opinions.

Today's immunization schedule now calls for kids to get 55 doses of vaccines by age 6.
Ideally, it makes for a healthier society. But critics worry that industry ties could impact the advice given to the public about all those vaccines.

Offit received a $350,000 grant from Merck to develop the RotaTeq vaccine.

Merck also paid for a chair in vaccinology at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia (CHOP) for Offit to hold. Offit receives an additional $90,000 a year from this chair.

Merck also bought and distributed copies of Offit's book What Every Parent Should Know About Vaccines to physicians.

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Tuck tail and run? I don't think so, moron. $182 million divided by 500,000 lives saved PER YEAR is $364 per life saved in ONE YEAR. Are you suggesting that number is too high? What number would you suggest? So are you suggesting Offit should work for free and pay for all his research out of his own pocket? Are you ******ed or what?

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Yes, yes, half a million lives saved, no question. Your arguments are very convincing and you make them well, as evidenced by this thread.

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Excellent, glad you agree with me. Now we're getting somewhere.

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Proud 1992 Alum said:

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As a 3-time Trump voter and life-long conservative, RFK Jr is not remotely conservative and is an embarrassing choice for HHS secretary. Just because Trump nominated him doesn't mean conservatives have to stop using their brains and defend his indefensible record. He is a dishonest crank. Appreciate his help with the campaign but give him something where he can't screw things up. Maybe ambassador to Bolivia.

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Proud 1992 Alum said:

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As a 3-time Trump voter and life-long conservative, RFK Jr is not remotely conservative and is an embarrassing choice for HHS secretary. Just because Trump nominated him doesn't mean conservatives have to stop using their brains and defend his indefensible record. He is a dishonest crank. Appreciate his help with the campaign but give him something where he can't screw things up. Maybe ambassador to Bolivia.

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Mothra said:

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Proud 1992 Alum said:

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As a 3-time Trump voter and life-long conservative, RFK Jr is not remotely conservative and is an embarrassing choice for HHS secretary. Just because Trump nominated him doesn't mean conservatives have to stop using their brains and defend his indefensible record. He is a dishonest crank. Appreciate his help with the campaign but give him something where he can't screw things up. Maybe ambassador to Bolivia.

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milli, another true believer! You're on a roll. Food dyes are safe, fluoride is not an issue, and vaccines have never harmed anyone!

Congrats on another convert!

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Proud 1992 Alum said:

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Mothra said:

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Proud 1992 Alum said:

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As a 3-time Trump voter and life-long conservative, RFK Jr is not remotely conservative and is an embarrassing choice for HHS secretary. Just because Trump nominated him doesn't mean conservatives have to stop using their brains and defend his indefensible record. He is a dishonest crank. Appreciate his help with the campaign but give him something where he can't screw things up. Maybe ambassador to Bolivia.

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milli, another true believer! You're on a roll. Food dyes are safe, fluoride is not an issue, and vaccines have never harmed anyone!

Congrats on another convert!

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Does it really offend you so much that I think RFK Jr. is a poor choice?

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Married A Horn said:

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Rfk doesnt seem to be doing that well in his confirm hearing. Maybe its just me.

This is not one of the trump appointees i'm willing to take a bullet for. I like some of the stuff he's done, but there are things I can't get on board with.

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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Mothra said:

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Proud 1992 Alum said:

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As a 3-time Trump voter and life-long conservative, RFK Jr is not remotely conservative and is an embarrassing choice for HHS secretary. Just because Trump nominated him doesn't mean conservatives have to stop using their brains and defend his indefensible record. He is a dishonest crank. Appreciate his help with the campaign but give him something where he can't screw things up. Maybe ambassador to Bolivia.

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milli, another true believer! You're on a roll. Food dyes are safe, fluoride is not an issue, and vaccines have never harmed anyone!

Congrats on another convert!

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No one ever said vaccines have never harmed anyone. For instance, Dr. Paul Offit's rota virus vaccine harmed several infants. They figured it out and fixed it. Now it saves over 500,000 lives PER YEAR, but you're so stupid, you'd shut down the vaccine since it harmed something like 10 kids. Are you that obtuse? Do you ever think?

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GrowlTowel said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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Mothra said:

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Proud 1992 Alum said:

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As a 3-time Trump voter and life-long conservative, RFK Jr is not remotely conservative and is an embarrassing choice for HHS secretary. Just because Trump nominated him doesn't mean conservatives have to stop using their brains and defend his indefensible record. He is a dishonest crank. Appreciate his help with the campaign but give him something where he can't screw things up. Maybe ambassador to Bolivia.

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milli, another true believer! You're on a roll. Food dyes are safe, fluoride is not an issue, and vaccines have never harmed anyone!

Congrats on another convert!

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No one ever said vaccines have never harmed anyone. For instance, Dr. Paul Offit's rota virus vaccine harmed several infants. They figured it out and fixed it. Now it saves over 500,000 lives PER YEAR, but you're so stupid, you'd shut down the vaccine since it harmed something like 10 kids. Are you that obtuse? Do you ever think?

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Honest question - do you believe that product liability lawsuits against the manufacturer of a product that causes harm to be "shutting it down?"

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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Mothra said:

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Proud 1992 Alum said:

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As a 3-time Trump voter and life-long conservative, RFK Jr is not remotely conservative and is an embarrassing choice for HHS secretary. Just because Trump nominated him doesn't mean conservatives have to stop using their brains and defend his indefensible record. He is a dishonest crank. Appreciate his help with the campaign but give him something where he can't screw things up. Maybe ambassador to Bolivia.

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milli, another true believer! You're on a roll. Food dyes are safe, fluoride is not an issue, and vaccines have never harmed anyone!

Congrats on another convert!

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No one ever said vaccines have never harmed anyone. For instance, Dr. Paul Offit's rota virus vaccine harmed several infants. They figured it out and fixed it. Now it saves over 500,000 lives PER YEAR, but you're so stupid, you'd shut down the vaccine since it harmed something like 10 kids. Are you that obtuse? Do you ever think?

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Honest question - do you believe that product liability lawsuits against the manufacturer of a product that causes harm to be "shutting it down?"

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Honest question - why do you think the Federal Govt. passed legislation to protect vaccine manufacturers?

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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Mothra said:

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Proud 1992 Alum said:

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As a 3-time Trump voter and life-long conservative, RFK Jr is not remotely conservative and is an embarrassing choice for HHS secretary. Just because Trump nominated him doesn't mean conservatives have to stop using their brains and defend his indefensible record. He is a dishonest crank. Appreciate his help with the campaign but give him something where he can't screw things up. Maybe ambassador to Bolivia.

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milli, another true believer! You're on a roll. Food dyes are safe, fluoride is not an issue, and vaccines have never harmed anyone!

Congrats on another convert!

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No one ever said vaccines have never harmed anyone. For instance, Dr. Paul Offit's rota virus vaccine harmed several infants. They figured it out and fixed it. Now it saves over 500,000 lives PER YEAR, but you're so stupid, you'd shut down the vaccine since it harmed something like 10 kids. Are you that obtuse? Do you ever think?

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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Mothra said:

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Proud 1992 Alum said:

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As a 3-time Trump voter and life-long conservative, RFK Jr is not remotely conservative and is an embarrassing choice for HHS secretary. Just because Trump nominated him doesn't mean conservatives have to stop using their brains and defend his indefensible record. He is a dishonest crank. Appreciate his help with the campaign but give him something where he can't screw things up. Maybe ambassador to Bolivia.

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milli, another true believer! You're on a roll. Food dyes are safe, fluoride is not an issue, and vaccines have never harmed anyone!

Congrats on another convert!

---

No one ever said vaccines have never harmed anyone. For instance, Dr. Paul Offit's rota virus vaccine harmed several infants. They figured it out and fixed it. Now it saves over 500,000 lives PER YEAR, but you're so stupid, you'd shut down the vaccine since it harmed something like 10 kids. Are you that obtuse? Do you ever think?

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Honest question - do you believe that product liability lawsuits against the manufacturer of a product that causes harm to be "shutting it down?"

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Honest question - why do you think the Federal Govt. passed legislation to protect vaccine manufacturers?

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Mothra said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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Tempus Edax Rerum said:

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Mothra said:

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Proud 1992 Alum said:

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As a 3-time Trump voter and life-long conservative, RFK Jr is not remotely conservative and is an embarrassing choice for HHS secretary. Just because Trump nominated him doesn't mean conservatives have to stop using their brains and defend his indefensible record. He is a dishonest crank. Appreciate his help with the campaign but give him something where he can't screw things up. Maybe ambassador to Bolivia.

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milli, another true believer! You're on a roll. Food dyes are safe, fluoride is not an issue, and vaccines have never harmed anyone!

Congrats on another convert!

---

No one ever said vaccines have never harmed anyone. For instance, Dr. Paul Offit's rota virus vaccine harmed several infants. They figured it out and fixed it. Now it saves over 500,000 lives PER YEAR, but you're so stupid, you'd shut down the vaccine since it harmed something like 10 kids. Are you that obtuse? Do you ever think?

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Honest question - do you believe that product liability lawsuits against the manufacturer of a product that causes harm to be "shutting it down?"

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Honest question - why do you think the Federal Govt. passed legislation to protect vaccine manufacturers?

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Easy. Vaccine industry lobbied the **** out of Congress. The 1986 Act has made them billions of dollars, as a result, and we now seem to have a vaccine for every illness known to man.

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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https://www.allsides.com/news-source/new-republic

Very left publication. You should be more ashamed than Mike Gundy wearing an OAN shirt.

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historian said:

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Assassin said:

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I don't follow politics as much as some of you. I have a question;

If RFK does not get the votes he needs, could Trump use the recess appointment to make him top dog?

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Assassin said:

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RFK Jr confirmed
https://pjmedia.com/catherinesalgado/2025/02/13/senate-votes-robert-kennedy-confirmation-as-hhs-secretary-n4936677

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