Trump's first 100 days

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Mothra said:

whiterock said:

Mothra said:

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4yrletterbear said:

Cowboy
You are spot on with your analysis.

The media and the Dimicrats (sp on purpose)
Will always twist the picture of the economy to fit their narrative.

Anyone who has studied history knows better than to judge success with the economy on any President during the first 100 days.

Check back with me in 100 weeks.
S&P is off by small single digits for the year; flat in April. Not bad for an economy likely already in recession (which started before he was in augurated....).

https://www.bbae.com/blog/sp-500-the-winners-and-losers-of-april-2025/

but counter-factual narratives do have an impact, and on no one moreso than GOP moderates......
The economy was most definitely NOT in a recession before Trump took office. So let's dispense with the misinformation.
LOL the economy experienced recession in the 1st Q of 2025, which includes the THREE WEEKS prior to his inauguration.

And even if it were, people aren't going to care or recall what the economy was like before he took office. The question will be: have his policies made it better, or has it gotten worse? And given that we still haven't even begun to see the full repercussions of the tariffs, it is likely to get worse. Can he turn it around by the midterms? It's possible, if he charts a different course. But if he truly is committed to the current tariff policy, there will be pretty severe negative repercussions to the economy.

If that happens, goodbye Congress.
His policies are not popular with "our" demographic....meaning college educated managment/professional classes. They are wildly poplar with ordinary people and particularly union members. UAW has actually endorsed them. If Fed projections are anywhere close to accurate, we will have economic growth THIS year, which will put us in a strong position for the mid-terms.

Oh, and BTW, China hasn't blinked. They seem committed to seeing this through. Bottom line is China doesn't care if its people suffer. They're not backing down to a bully. If only Trump had not alienated our allies with blanket tariffs, and had engaged in a more targeted campaign against bad actors like China, perhaps it would have worked.

I suspect it will be Trump that blinks. Again.
Dude, you are so seriously misreading the landscape.
No, it was not. That is called a slowdown, and it happened after Trump took office. We were not in a recession prior to Trump taking office. This is nothing more than misinformation.

As for his policies, his polling is quite negative on the economy. And that's the issue. If it remains that way, and the economy continues to slide, midterms could be a blood bath. It's all about the economy, and we have clear evidence that Trump's policies have negatively affected same.

On China, wait and see.
The stock market disagrees with your interpretation of events.

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Let's check in on CNN...

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Let's check in on the Dems..

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The Great American Renaissance has begun.

Democrats are furious that America is entering the Golden Age of America.
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Jack Bauer said:

Let's check in on the Dems..




"Wants to end birthright citizenship"

"Pulled the U.S. out of the Paris climate agreement"

"Ended trans serving in the military"

His list is 90% just awesome stuff Trump is doing or stuff the American people desperately hope he does
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Assassin said:

The Great American Renaissance has begun.

Democrats are furious that America is entering the Golden Age of America.


Golden Age? Don't we have to solve all the debt issues before we start moving toward a golden age? Or does that stuff not count now?
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FLBear5630 said:

Assassin said:

The Great American Renaissance has begun.

Democrats are furious that America is entering the Golden Age of America.


Golden Age? Don't we have to solve all the debt issues before we start moving toward a golden age? Or does that stuff not count now?
Just hold your breath. It's happening. Right in front of you if you stand back and see with your eyes open
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FLBear5630 said:

cowboycwr said:

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ScottS said:

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Assassin said:

Porteroso said:

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Porteroso said:

I was willing to wait and see. Give the guy credit on his first term, but this is just a different animal. He is tanking the economy, American influence world wide, and screwing over the next few generations of Americans.

He unilaterally declared economic war on the world, with no apparent plan. I think it's safe to say, given all his lying and flip flopping, there was never a real plan. Maybe a vague outline drawn on a napkin. Similar to the first term, but worse outlines this time.
My future prediction is you are wrong on every one of your takes.

This is a master 3D chess player while the rest of us are playing checkers

The only thing or certain is that no matter what happens, his zealot followers will declare it a total victory.

Probably the greatest biggest hit the economy has ever taken in any administration's first 100 days, but it's all sunshine and 3D chess to you!
It's not relevant to the first 100 days if it saves the country from the Biden fiasco. The country was in horrible shape whether you want to admit it or not.

There is the argument that it might take short term pain to fix long standing issues, but the economy is objectively far worse off after these 100 days than at any time during the Biden Presidency.

And it will get worse soon, as drilling stops, truckers are laid off, and prices start to rise. If we even get back to the economy we had in January, this calendar year, I will be surprised.

Just like years ago we were told by Algore that the polar ice caps would completely melt.
So, you don't think that polar ice is melting? Huh... I guess he was only 1/2 right.





But he didn't claim it would go down in half or even just a little. He said it would completely melt.

But like EVERY prediction made by the climate cult it has failed to happen.




So, if it is not exactly as said, it is a BS clown comment?

That go for Trump? Interesting standard, I will remember next time we have the greatest ever seen speech... Maybe a largest crowd in history attended speech. Or by the wall that Mexico built ..

You really want to stand by that standard?


Lol. Let go of your TDS for a moment and focus on this Al Gore statement.

Like every other prediction it failed to happen. Period.
So the entirety of the Arctic Ice cap is there? Russia, Canada, China and the US are not positioning for new maritime trade routes opening up? The US wants Greenland for what reason since the ice cap makes the Arctic not passable? Wow! None of that is happening. The Arctic Ice cap is the same as when Gore made the prediction. I guess someone better tell the crab so they can migrate back...

I guess the inverse is also that this is the best economy ever seen, Trump had the largest inaugural in 2016 and Mexico did pay to have the wall built. Who knew...


Your tds is so bad that you cannot even read a post that has zero to do with him and understand what it is about or understand what is actually being said because I said none of that.
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Jack Bauer said:

Let's check in on the Dems..




Great way to sum up Trumps accomplishments for us!
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cowboycwr said:

FLBear5630 said:

cowboycwr said:

FLBear5630 said:

cowboycwr said:

FLBear5630 said:

ScottS said:

Porteroso said:

Assassin said:

Porteroso said:

Assassin said:

Porteroso said:

I was willing to wait and see. Give the guy credit on his first term, but this is just a different animal. He is tanking the economy, American influence world wide, and screwing over the next few generations of Americans.

He unilaterally declared economic war on the world, with no apparent plan. I think it's safe to say, given all his lying and flip flopping, there was never a real plan. Maybe a vague outline drawn on a napkin. Similar to the first term, but worse outlines this time.
My future prediction is you are wrong on every one of your takes.

This is a master 3D chess player while the rest of us are playing checkers

The only thing or certain is that no matter what happens, his zealot followers will declare it a total victory.

Probably the greatest biggest hit the economy has ever taken in any administration's first 100 days, but it's all sunshine and 3D chess to you!
It's not relevant to the first 100 days if it saves the country from the Biden fiasco. The country was in horrible shape whether you want to admit it or not.

There is the argument that it might take short term pain to fix long standing issues, but the economy is objectively far worse off after these 100 days than at any time during the Biden Presidency.

And it will get worse soon, as drilling stops, truckers are laid off, and prices start to rise. If we even get back to the economy we had in January, this calendar year, I will be surprised.

Just like years ago we were told by Algore that the polar ice caps would completely melt.
So, you don't think that polar ice is melting? Huh... I guess he was only 1/2 right.





But he didn't claim it would go down in half or even just a little. He said it would completely melt.

But like EVERY prediction made by the climate cult it has failed to happen.




So, if it is not exactly as said, it is a BS clown comment?

That go for Trump? Interesting standard, I will remember next time we have the greatest ever seen speech... Maybe a largest crowd in history attended speech. Or by the wall that Mexico built ..

You really want to stand by that standard?


Lol. Let go of your TDS for a moment and focus on this Al Gore statement.

Like every other prediction it failed to happen. Period.
So the entirety of the Arctic Ice cap is there? Russia, Canada, China and the US are not positioning for new maritime trade routes opening up? The US wants Greenland for what reason since the ice cap makes the Arctic not passable? Wow! None of that is happening. The Arctic Ice cap is the same as when Gore made the prediction. I guess someone better tell the crab so they can migrate back...

I guess the inverse is also that this is the best economy ever seen, Trump had the largest inaugural in 2016 and Mexico did pay to have the wall built. Who knew...


Your tds is so bad that you cannot even read a post that has zero to do with him and understand what it is about or understand what is actually being said because I said none of that.
What are you talking about, you guys brought Gore in as an example. I applied it to the current conversation.

Get off the TDS ****, stick to the facts. The TDS **** is a Bannon bait and switch. The guy has been a train wreck on everything outside of the Border. TDS or not, it does not change the fact that the guy has no plan and everything is knee jerk without any regard for the outcome. That is worse than the Dem ****, they at least had a plan as f-ed up as it was. This is amateur hour.
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Assassin said:

The Great American Renaissance has begun.

Democrats are furious that America is entering the Golden Age of America.


By Golden Age of America, do you mean that inflation continues to be a problem and we continue to pay more money for basics necessities doing large part to Trump's tariffs?
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Assassin said:

FLBear5630 said:

Assassin said:

The Great American Renaissance has begun.

Democrats are furious that America is entering the Golden Age of America.


Golden Age? Don't we have to solve all the debt issues before we start moving toward a golden age? Or does that stuff not count now?
Just hold your breath. It's happening. Right in front of you if you stand back and see with your eyes open



Do you have any evidence or is this just more blind faith in the dear leader? Point me to the specific evidence that has convinced you.
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Mothra said:

Assassin said:

FLBear5630 said:

Assassin said:

The Great American Renaissance has begun.

Democrats are furious that America is entering the Golden Age of America.


Golden Age? Don't we have to solve all the debt issues before we start moving toward a golden age? Or does that stuff not count now?
Just hold your breath. It's happening. Right in front of you if you stand back and see with your eyes open
Do you have any evidence or is this just more blind faith in the dear leader? Point me to the specific evidence that has convinced you.
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boognish_bear said:


Excellent way to make it happen!

Never thought of this
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Literally 100% of the time when I ask someone who says they want to raise taxes to define:
1) What's rich
2) How much should they pay

They fail. Always. Never have a serious answer for that.
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nein51 said:

Literally 100% of the time when I ask someone who says they want to raise taxes to define:
1) What's rich
2) How much should they pay

They fail. Always. Never have a serious answer for that.
My problem is there will be pain. 1T Defense budget. Those two are irreconcilable.
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FLBear5630 said:

nein51 said:

Literally 100% of the time when I ask someone who says they want to raise taxes to define:
1) What's rich
2) How much should they pay

They fail. Always. Never have a serious answer for that.
My problem is there will be pain. 1T Defense budget. Those two are irreconcilable.

From a strictly business standpoint government spending on the military typically pays off well and we have some massive holes in our defenses right now.

But, I agree, it's hard to reconcile those two things and I also recognize I'm much more pro-military than most.
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nein51 said:

FLBear5630 said:

nein51 said:

Literally 100% of the time when I ask someone who says they want to raise taxes to define:
1) What's rich
2) How much should they pay

They fail. Always. Never have a serious answer for that.
My problem is there will be pain. 1T Defense budget. Those two are irreconcilable.

From a strictly business standpoint government spending on the military typically pays off well and we have some massive holes in our defenses right now.

But, I agree, it's hard to reconcile those two things and I also recognize I'm much more pro-military than most.
I actually thought I was pro-Military. I loved GHW Bush and felt lucky that I served under him and Reagan, they knew how to get in and out.

This clown show, is different. Very disappointed in Trump. I voted for him 3 times. This is a **** show.

By the way, drinking too much Heineken tonight.
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Redbrickbear said:


what are the chances she has a family member working at PC
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boognish_bear said:



Why?
Trump draws criticism with AI image of himself as the pope ahead of papal conclave
The image was shared Friday night on Trump's Truth Social site.
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Osodecentx said:

boognish_bear said:



Why?
Trump draws criticism with AI image of himself as the pope ahead of papal conclave
The image was shared Friday night on Trump's Truth Social site.


He is going out of his way to alienate people.
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FLBear5630 said:

cowboycwr said:

FLBear5630 said:

cowboycwr said:

FLBear5630 said:

cowboycwr said:

FLBear5630 said:

ScottS said:

Porteroso said:

Assassin said:

Porteroso said:

Assassin said:

Porteroso said:

I was willing to wait and see. Give the guy credit on his first term, but this is just a different animal. He is tanking the economy, American influence world wide, and screwing over the next few generations of Americans.

He unilaterally declared economic war on the world, with no apparent plan. I think it's safe to say, given all his lying and flip flopping, there was never a real plan. Maybe a vague outline drawn on a napkin. Similar to the first term, but worse outlines this time.
My future prediction is you are wrong on every one of your takes.

This is a master 3D chess player while the rest of us are playing checkers

The only thing or certain is that no matter what happens, his zealot followers will declare it a total victory.

Probably the greatest biggest hit the economy has ever taken in any administration's first 100 days, but it's all sunshine and 3D chess to you!
It's not relevant to the first 100 days if it saves the country from the Biden fiasco. The country was in horrible shape whether you want to admit it or not.

There is the argument that it might take short term pain to fix long standing issues, but the economy is objectively far worse off after these 100 days than at any time during the Biden Presidency.

And it will get worse soon, as drilling stops, truckers are laid off, and prices start to rise. If we even get back to the economy we had in January, this calendar year, I will be surprised.

Just like years ago we were told by Algore that the polar ice caps would completely melt.
So, you don't think that polar ice is melting? Huh... I guess he was only 1/2 right.





But he didn't claim it would go down in half or even just a little. He said it would completely melt.

But like EVERY prediction made by the climate cult it has failed to happen.




So, if it is not exactly as said, it is a BS clown comment?

That go for Trump? Interesting standard, I will remember next time we have the greatest ever seen speech... Maybe a largest crowd in history attended speech. Or by the wall that Mexico built ..

You really want to stand by that standard?


Lol. Let go of your TDS for a moment and focus on this Al Gore statement.

Like every other prediction it failed to happen. Period.
So the entirety of the Arctic Ice cap is there? Russia, Canada, China and the US are not positioning for new maritime trade routes opening up? The US wants Greenland for what reason since the ice cap makes the Arctic not passable? Wow! None of that is happening. The Arctic Ice cap is the same as when Gore made the prediction. I guess someone better tell the crab so they can migrate back...

I guess the inverse is also that this is the best economy ever seen, Trump had the largest inaugural in 2016 and Mexico did pay to have the wall built. Who knew...


Your tds is so bad that you cannot even read a post that has zero to do with him and understand what it is about or understand what is actually being said because I said none of that.
What are you talking about, you guys brought Gore in as an example. I applied it to the current conversation.

Get off the TDS ****, stick to the facts. The TDS **** is a Bannon bait and switch. The guy has been a train wreck on everything outside of the Border. TDS or not, it does not change the fact that the guy has no plan and everything is knee jerk without any regard for the outcome. That is worse than the Dem ****, they at least had a plan as f-ed up as it was. This is amateur hour.



Lol. I was only talking about Gore and the climate change predictions that have failed to come true. Anything else was not part of my response. But again your tds is so bad you can't even discuss gore without talking about Trump b
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FLBear5630 said:

Osodecentx said:

boognish_bear said:



Why?
Trump draws criticism with AI image of himself as the pope ahead of papal conclave
The image was shared Friday night on Trump's Truth Social site.


He is going out of his way to alienate people.
I'd have to say you are projecting there a bit, hoss.
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