Trump's first 100 days

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ATL Bear said:

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We used to let companies fail and allow another one or a competitor to rise in its stead. You'd think we'd have learned by now the hazard of government propping up failing or failed companies.

Banks and automakers would disagree
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ATL Bear said:

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This is how hou know even conservatives know Trump is full of B.S. They would be going apeshut if they actually believed what Trump said.

there you go again, making "shut" up.

One of the many pathologies of globalism is that it taught our corporations to think of themselves as citizens of the world, with no superseding obligations to their home country. A few decades down the road, and we were in a situation where our largest, wealthiest, and in many cases most national security sensitive companies were deeply in bed with the Chinese government (via parastatals) and directly balancing and/or triangulating in order to protect equities in an irritably intolerant China (at the expense of equities of a far more tolerant USA). It even got to the point where companies were actually suppressing pro-US and/or anti-China messaging in their ads, products, and workforce.

That's why we are seeing this step with Intel. USG representation on the board will stop the corporate slide into quiet Chinese vassal-ship. We don't have to take stakes in all the companies. Just a few. The rest will see the writing on the wall and take steps to avoid the same fate. In the meantime, the asset side of the US balance sheet just got bigger. Whenever the problem abates, the shares can be sold to reduce debt.

What it is not is a slide into socialism. If Trump were intent on government ownership stakes throughout the private sector, he would not be proposing to sell Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac.

Just read what you just said. The government could take a stake in companies throughout the private sector, and as long as Trump intends to sell Fannie Mae&Freddie Mac, it's not socialism. Whew, what a load.
LOL no, the load is you making such a flimsy straw man. I said no such thing.

First, I didn't say it's socialism, I said it is bad and a precursor to nationalizing private companies we deem necessary. Guess who else did that?
I didn't say you were a socialist. I merely pointed out that taking a minority share of a single private company is not a socialist agenda.

And second, if the government actually started strong arming companies throughout the private sector into giving it shares, I'd hesitate to call it socialism; it would be closer to communism, though on its own, not outright communism.

I wonder if you see the slide in politics, you have lubed the slide up, gotten 13 fire hoses plumbed in, and you're teetering at the top, strapped to a JetSki. You are just about to endorse the nationalization of companies, because the motherland requires it.
Again, taking an 11% share of a single company is not a nationalization program.

I not at all a fan of the USG owning shares of private companies. But I can see what's at play here. It makes sense. We will know soon enough if Trump is intent on an outright USG takeover of the Tech industry. In the meantime, we have no reason to suspect he will. Such would be inconsistent with everything he's said and done throughout his life, to include governance in his first term. If that changes, I'll be screaming about it, more loudly than I have been screaming about big Tech being in bed with China. What I'm not going to do is continue to allow our Corporations to show equal deference to our greatest geopolitical rival. Our companies are going to be American First, or they'll face consequences.

Unbelievable…

I agree. It's unbelievable that globalists expect the USG to tolerate it's own companies showing more deference to geopolitical rivals than to the USG.

You are apparently too young to remember much history. Did we allow IBM to set up manufacturing operations using sensitive technologies in the USSR? Did we allow Soviets to move here to manage all or parts of major corporations? Of course not. It would have been insane to have done so. Makes no sense that we should tolerate such now with China. If you don't like that, Mr. CEO, move yer feckin' family and HQS to Beijing and see how that works out for you.
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boognish_bear said:



Good move. Take their money. Hire their best & brightest away. Recruit the mid-wits to return to Chinese government jobs as reporting sources for CIA.

It's a very old template, the benefits of which are not always entirely visible......
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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It's free speech, detestable as it is.

Yes. Both parties are wrong on this issue. I don't like it but that's the point of free speech laws.

I don't like what you're saying but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.
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This country is far to diverse at this point to put people in jail for burning a piece of cloth.

Trump swings and misses on this one.

Still owns a great batting average.
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KaiBear said:

This country is far to diverse at this point to put people in jail for burning a piece of cloth.

Trump swings and misses on this one.

Still owns a great batting average.

We wanted Ted Williams and got Tony Gwynn
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KaiBear said:

This country is far to diverse at this point to put people in jail for burning a piece of cloth.

Trump swings and misses on this one.

Still owns a great batting average.

Agreed. I think we should also have the right to burn Palestinian flags and Korans.
Call it a tax, the people are outraged! Call it a tariff, the people get out their checkbooks and wave their American flags!!!
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KaiBear said:

This country is far to diverse at this point to put people in jail for burning a piece of cloth.

Trump swings and misses on this one.

Still owns a great batting average.

This isn't about burning the flag, this is Trump's 'sleight of hand'. 1. He is appealing to the blue-collar, American man who still salutes the flag, and 2. He is making libs spend millions in not only money to fight it, but also on publicity to combat this "travesty". No one is gonna buy anything they are selling in the near future 3. While they are wasting funds, he is stockpiling for the RNC for the midterms and 2028
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

KaiBear said:

This country is far to diverse at this point to put people in jail for burning a piece of cloth.

Trump swings and misses on this one.

Still owns a great batting average.

We wanted Ted Williams and got Tony Gwynn



We need a lot of Rick Mundays
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:

This country is far to diverse at this point to put people in jail for burning a piece of cloth.

Trump swings and misses on this one.

Still owns a great batting average.

Agreed. I think we should also have the right to burn Palestinian flags and Korans.


Then Valentina is your gal for the job

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

KaiBear said:

This country is far to diverse at this point to put people in jail for burning a piece of cloth.

Trump swings and misses on this one.

Still owns a great batting average.

Agreed. I think we should also have the right to burn Palestinian flags and Korans.

Absolutely, even though many may find that just as detestable as burning an American flag, it is still a form of speech.

If burning the American flag is not a call to incite violence, I don't think anyone else's flag should be either. If municipalities have laws or bans in place for open fires, enforce those EQUALLY. Otherwise, let people speak regardless of how stupid they are.
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

KaiBear said:

This country is far to diverse at this point to put people in jail for burning a piece of cloth.

Trump swings and misses on this one.

Still owns a great batting average.

We wanted Ted Williams and got Tony Gwynn

Got a photo somewhere in one of my closets with Tony Gwynn and Gary Templeton when they were with the Padres. Our ship was tethered at a pier in San Diego and they came on board for some kind of luncheon. I'm not a big baseball fanatic, but I certainly knew who those two were
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boognish_bear said:



He's right. He's pressing the issue.

It's ok to make mistakes. It's ok to speak what's on your mind even when you probably shouldn't. Bad policy is just bad policy.
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

KaiBear said:

This country is far to diverse at this point to put people in jail for burning a piece of cloth.

Trump swings and misses on this one.

Still owns a great batting average.

We wanted Ted Williams and got Tony Gwynn

But even Ted Williams batted 'only' .400
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If this is accurate… looks like he's been released. He says they ended up charging him with lighting a fire in a park and not for burning the US flag.

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One of the worst mayors, with the worst record in the USA. His approval rating is 26% - in Chicago

  • August 2025 (U of Chicago Manu Institute for Urban Innovation): A poll showed 26% of Chicago residents approved of Johnson's job performance, while 58% disapproved. The poll noted his popularity was "underwater" across all major demographic groups, including his political base.
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boognish_bear said:




Low rates for her but not for everyone else
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The violence in Chicago is mostly limited to about 3-5 parts of town.

The only argument against more officers making more arrests is that it *could* lead to a power vacuum making the violence worse in the short term (think regime change).

I'm not saying that's a good argument but it's an argument.

I maintain that the overwhelming majority of people don't want to live in urban war zones. They just don't have a lot of choice.

However, he's right about the price of housing in Chicago. It was unbelievably high when we lived there back in 05-08. Now I doubt lower housing prices brings less crime but that's a possible outcome. It's a little like saying a better breeze would cause fewer bugs at your cookout while tripping over a cake on the floor though.
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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Unless the rules have changed, any employee of WalMart that accepts gifts, kickbacks, or personal preferred pricing from any vendor or contractor is up for termination. One of their better company rules.

Accepting bribes should be grounds for a long prison term.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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boognish_bear said:



****ing really? Venezuela 2.0. Maybe Trump can hire Zohran Mamdani to be CEO of Lockheed Martin.

Why don't we go ahead and have a government monopoly of the oil industry like Mexico has? Seems to be working for them. This nationalization kick of private industry needs to stop!!!
Call it a tax, the people are outraged! Call it a tariff, the people get out their checkbooks and wave their American flags!!!
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boognish_bear said:



Absolutely not. For **** sake this is the stuff I can't overlook.
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

KaiBear said:

This country is far to diverse at this point to put people in jail for burning a piece of cloth.

Trump swings and misses on this one.

Still owns a great batting average.

We wanted Ted Williams and got Tony Gwynn

and, at times, Ty Cobb.....

SCOTUS got it wrong on flag burning as free speech. Sets a precedent for tearing down statutes, defacing art, etc......things a civil society should find a way to discourage.
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whiterock said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

KaiBear said:

This country is far to diverse at this point to put people in jail for burning a piece of cloth.

Trump swings and misses on this one.

Still owns a great batting average.

We wanted Ted Williams and got Tony Gwynn

and, at times, Ty Cobb.....

SCOTUS got it wrong on flag burning as free speech. Sets a precedent for tearing down statutes, defacing art, etc......things a civil society should find a way to discourage.

Absolutely with you on that one whiterock.

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