Trump's first 100 days

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KaiBear said:

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Ive never found Kimme funny, but there were affiliates who were telling Disney they were not going to show Kimmel's show anymore. That's why it is suspended, though now it seems he is mad, and wants out of the ABC contract.

I don't like the precedent of the White House advocating for removal of TV hosts it doesn't like. I read some of those statements as not so veiled threats which seems out of line to me.


Government action to regulate speech

It is unprecedented. Righty zealots love it because they see it as the government making late night a safe space for them. Anyone with a brain hates it because if the government will censor soeech that you hate, eventually it will censor speech you like.

But my point was that this seems to not be a result of the FCC chair's threat, but an affiliate in the South who will need FCC approval for a merger soon.

They are sucking up, not actually caving to federal pressure. Fine line, I know.


Unprecedented???? Have you ever read a history book?

Presidents, Congress, and the government in general have gone after journalists for a long time. They just used other methods to remove them instead of going on TV saying they should be fired.

Wilson used laws to get them arrested, their newspapers from being mailed, etc.

FDR banned media from press conferences of himself, his administration departments or even parts of the military. MacArthur was famous for only allowing press that was favorable to him.

Congress going after "communists."

Nixon. Obama. Biden and his only answering questions from certain agencies.

So yeah it is not unprecedented. It is just being done differently than the way your dems have done for a long time so you want to pretend it is the first time ever.

This is unprecedented especially if what you listed were the worst examples you could find. You clearly do not have much in the think tank. Find a way to fill it back up.


The guy gave you several legitimate examples ….and you merely brushed it off.

Not remotely worth the effort to educate you.

None of them are comparable. A quick look at them would have helped you.
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boognish_bear said:




John Bolton needs to enlist in the Ukrainian army and request duty as a front line rifleman.
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Porteroso said:

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"Unprecedented"?

Were you in a coma 2021-23?



Name 1 similar scenario.

Biden Admin Defends Telling Fox News to Change Coverage of Biden

Not to mention the same administration trying to implement a ministry of truth.

They wrote a letter. This was the FCC chairman threatening their broadcasting license.

LOL. I see.

And the attempt at ministry of truth was just a thought.
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cowboycwr said:

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Ive never found Kimme funny, but there were affiliates who were telling Disney they were not going to show Kimmel's show anymore. That's why it is suspended, though now it seems he is mad, and wants out of the ABC contract.

I don't like the precedent of the White House advocating for removal of TV hosts it doesn't like. I read some of those statements as not so veiled threats which seems out of line to me.


Government action to regulate speech

It is unprecedented. Righty zealots love it because they see it as the government making late night a safe space for them. Anyone with a brain hates it because if the government will censor soeech that you hate, eventually it will censor speech you like.

But my point was that this seems to not be a result of the FCC chair's threat, but an affiliate in the South who will need FCC approval for a merger soon.

They are sucking up, not actually caving to federal pressure. Fine line, I know.


Unprecedented???? Have you ever read a history book?

Presidents, Congress, and the government in general have gone after journalists for a long time. They just used other methods to remove them instead of going on TV saying they should be fired.

Wilson used laws to get them arrested, their newspapers from being mailed, etc.

FDR banned media from press conferences of himself, his administration departments or even parts of the military. MacArthur was famous for only allowing press that was favorable to him.

Congress going after "communists."

Nixon. Obama. Biden and his only answering questions from certain agencies.

So yeah it is not unprecedented. It is just being done differently than the way your dems have done for a long time so you want to pretend it is the first time ever.
14 wrongs don't make a right. But the recently exposed FTC pressure tactics could definitely land in a constitutional court case. It stinks, regardless of who is doing it. You can't honor someone like Charlie Kirk who resisted censorship of his activities by taking it head on with speech and dialogue by going after the opposition in similar manner.



Ahh I see. So no outcry when it is the left doing all the cancelling but when the right finally has had enough and starts using the lefts playbook it is wrong…
I've been very critical of the left on this issue. But "the playbook" is the problem regardless of who's using it. That's called principles over partisanship.
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Osodecentx said:

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That would be a terrible message for the FCC and Trump to strongarm and threaten licenses for remarks about Charlie Kirk - who was known for being a big advocate of free speech and debating differing opinions.


Government will decide what speech is approved
it always has at some level
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What is significance of September 17?


Skipping work? What would that accomplish?

cut output.


To cut GDP?

By definition it would have an impact on GDP. Not a very big one, of course, given the small number of participants for just a single day. It'll have a lot more harm on employers, who ostensibly might become more receptive to union demands, and/or would push policymakers for relief.

"Sick outs" and "go slows" are hardly new labor union tactics. Same for public appeals by activists (unionists or others) to make a public appeal for voluntary participation in some kind of strike action....to show broad public support for the union position.

In a strategic sense, it's like a knight pulling his sword out of the scabbard a few inches to remind everyone that he is a knight and has a sword. "Do you see us? We are the union and we can hurt you more. So hear our demands......"
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I don't go to Starbucks whatsoever or McDonalds very often. Did anybody notice businesses shut down from the liberal "Take a Day Off" thingamajig?
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EatMoreSalmon said:

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EatMoreSalmon said:

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Oldbear83 said:

"Unprecedented"?

Were you in a coma 2021-23?



Name 1 similar scenario.

Biden Admin Defends Telling Fox News to Change Coverage of Biden

Not to mention the same administration trying to implement a ministry of truth.

They wrote a letter. This was the FCC chairman threatening their broadcasting license.

LOL. I see.

And the attempt at ministry of truth was just a thought.

I'm actually not sure what the Ministry of Truth ever did. Did they ever threaten citizens or companies? I thought the whole thing went ker-splat pretty quickly.
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Oldbear83 said:

"Unprecedented"?

Were you in a coma 2021-23?



he's just doing what lefties do....making stuff up to justify feeling the way he feels. Carr took no action to do anything regarding Kimmel's comments. Here merely observed, verbally, on a podcast that the affiliates had the ability to do what they ultimately did - remove inflammatory programming that offended viewers.

Look carefully at the facts here:
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/18/media/brendan-carr-jimmy-kimmel-fcc-first-amendment

I wonder what Porter said that time Twitter and others kicked a sitting US President off their platforms during the homestretch of an election over inflammatory speech
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Kimmel simply pissed off his bosses once too often while losing money in the process.

And bosses have the clear right to terminate such employees.
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So you get elected by counting illegal alien votes and then you go spouting off

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Porteroso said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Porteroso said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Porteroso said:

Oldbear83 said:

"Unprecedented"?

Were you in a coma 2021-23?



Name 1 similar scenario.

Biden Admin Defends Telling Fox News to Change Coverage of Biden

Not to mention the same administration trying to implement a ministry of truth.

They wrote a letter. This was the FCC chairman threatening their broadcasting license.

LOL. I see.

And the attempt at ministry of truth was just a thought.

I'm actually not sure what the Ministry of Truth ever did. Did they ever threaten citizens or companies? I thought the whole thing went ker-splat pretty quickly.


It was canned quickly because of what it was.
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4th and Inches said:

Osodecentx said:

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That would be a terrible message for the FCC and Trump to strongarm and threaten licenses for remarks about Charlie Kirk - who was known for being a big advocate of free speech and debating differing opinions.


Government will decide what speech is approved

it always has at some level

Minutes ago, the right was slamming the Biden administration for its coercive censorship under the guise of stopping "misinformation and disinformation." Turns out the right can play such word games too. The next Democratic head of the FCC will adore imposing his definition of the "public interest." Especially as a driving Democratic ambition is to expand the FCC's powers to allow it to police cable news. Just imagine how the progressive "public interest" will treat Fox News, One America News, or Newsmax.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/back-to-censor-culture-f6bd4637?mod=opinion_lead_pos7
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Osodecentx said:

4th and Inches said:

Osodecentx said:

Jack Bauer said:

boognish_bear said:




That would be a terrible message for the FCC and Trump to strongarm and threaten licenses for remarks about Charlie Kirk - who was known for being a big advocate of free speech and debating differing opinions.


Government will decide what speech is approved

it always has at some level

Minutes ago, the right was slamming the Biden administration for its coercive censorship under the guise of stopping "misinformation and disinformation." Turns out the right can play such word games too. The next Democratic head of the FCC will adore imposing his definition of the "public interest." Especially as a driving Democratic ambition is to expand the FCC's powers to allow it to police cable news. Just imagine how the progressive "public interest" will treat Fox News, One America News, or Newsmax.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/back-to-censor-culture-f6bd4637?mod=opinion_lead_pos7


Until Congress starts performing its constitutional duties, this executive branch ideology windshield wiper will continue.
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EatMoreSalmon said:

Osodecentx said:

4th and Inches said:

Osodecentx said:

Jack Bauer said:

boognish_bear said:




That would be a terrible message for the FCC and Trump to strongarm and threaten licenses for remarks about Charlie Kirk - who was known for being a big advocate of free speech and debating differing opinions.


Government will decide what speech is approved

it always has at some level

Minutes ago, the right was slamming the Biden administration for its coercive censorship under the guise of stopping "misinformation and disinformation." Turns out the right can play such word games too. The next Democratic head of the FCC will adore imposing his definition of the "public interest." Especially as a driving Democratic ambition is to expand the FCC's powers to allow it to police cable news. Just imagine how the progressive "public interest" will treat Fox News, One America News, or Newsmax.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/back-to-censor-culture-f6bd4637?mod=opinion_lead_pos7


Until Congress starts performing its constitutional duties, this executive branch ideology windshield wiper will continue.


What's a Congress?
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boognish_bear said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

Osodecentx said:

4th and Inches said:

Osodecentx said:

Jack Bauer said:

boognish_bear said:




That would be a terrible message for the FCC and Trump to strongarm and threaten licenses for remarks about Charlie Kirk - who was known for being a big advocate of free speech and debating differing opinions.


Government will decide what speech is approved

it always has at some level

Minutes ago, the right was slamming the Biden administration for its coercive censorship under the guise of stopping "misinformation and disinformation." Turns out the right can play such word games too. The next Democratic head of the FCC will adore imposing his definition of the "public interest." Especially as a driving Democratic ambition is to expand the FCC's powers to allow it to police cable news. Just imagine how the progressive "public interest" will treat Fox News, One America News, or Newsmax.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/back-to-censor-culture-f6bd4637?mod=opinion_lead_pos7


Until Congress starts performing its constitutional duties, this executive branch ideology windshield wiper will continue.


What's a Congress?


Well, to recall Mr. Twain, one dishonest man is a scoundrel, two are co-conspirators, and three or more are called a Congress.
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Testing those boundaries

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WASHINGTON U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz says FCC chairman Brendan Carr sounded more like an organized crime boss than a federal regulator when he threatened to revoke ABC's licenses over comments by late night host Jimmy Kimmel.

The Texas Republican emphasized how much he hates what Kimmel said about the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk and how much he likes and works closely with Carr.
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2025/09/19/ted-cruz-says-fcc-chair-sounded-like-a-mafia-boss-in-threats-against-abc-over-jimmy-kimmel/
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Just keeps tapping the hornet's nest

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How self reliant are we talking here?

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boognish_bear said:

How self reliant are we talking here?



Cool thing to say but there's no practical way to do that imo.
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Sell H1B visas?

Trump expected to add new $100,000 fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says
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The only logical thought is that Putin is trying to test NATO to see just how closely that pact really holds up.

Probably puts us on the brink of war. If you don't hit back he will continue to see how close he can get to the fire. If you do hit back he's likely to use it as justification for war.

The only language bullies know is force so at some point you're going to have to punch him in the face.
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ScottS said:

Sell H1B visas?

Trump expected to add new $100,000 fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says

Charge companies for bringing in H1B employees. I actually don't hate that move at all. It should force companies to really think about the cost of the foreign worker that will work for less money.

Somewhat ironically if a Democrat did this much for the American worker they would be slobbering all over themselves in self congratulations.
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Judge strikes down Trump's $15 billion suit against the New York Times
Calling it "decidedly improper and impermissible," Judge Steven D. Merryday slammed the 85-page complaint and said it could not stand.
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