Trump's first 100 days

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Assassin said:

boognish_bear said:



What does that mean in the grand scheme of things?

I figure Trump will probably let the Saudis build an air base in New York.
Call it a tax, the people are outraged! Call it a tariff, the people get out their checkbooks and wave their American flags!!!
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boognish_bear said:



People who don't work will view the economy through their political glasses. Prices of things seem pretty stable.

Bigger issue is lack of safeguards against AI takeover of jobs. AI has to be taxed, so the growing legions of unemployed can be retrained for a different field. It will be a long time before AI can do everything. Only certain industries are impacted at the beginning.
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boognish_bear said:




Person over 50: "I've seen much worse."

30 year old: "4% inflation just never happens! Where did those more normal 3.75 interest rates go? Why am I having to deal with such crappy rates?"

Personal experience factors a lot when considering causation in such a poll.
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Also....as each generation ages of course income and accumulated wealth typically increases at 50 years old and beyond. That cycle will just continue.
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Assassin said:

boognish_bear said:



What does that mean in the grand scheme of things?

I figure Trump will probably let the Saudis build an air base in New York.

yup. But, piggy is too busy rolling out the Red Carpet for a know KILLER of our people . Disgusting, toad man.
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boognish_bear said:



A tool I sold 8 years ago for $12 is $41 right now but I'm sure that $.50 is really helping.
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EatMoreSalmon said:

boognish_bear said:




Person over 50: "I've seen much worse."

30 year old: "4% inflation just never happens! Where did those more normal 3.75 interest rates go? Why am I having to deal with such crappy rates?"

Personal experience factors a lot when considering causation in such a poll.


Nice straw man
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boognish_bear said:

Also....as each generation ages of course income and accumulated wealth typically increases at 50 years old and beyond. That cycle will just continue.

What a concept! You work hard, save, and sacrifice your whole working career and the older you get, the more financially healthy you become. These younger generations watch too many stories about twenty something Tik-Tok gazillionaires and think that is normal. They have no patience and no work ethic and want everything right now!!!
Call it a tax, the people are outraged! Call it a tariff, the people get out their checkbooks and wave their American flags!!!
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Redbrickbear said:



And then there was Offgust... all alone. Damn that one day!
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Assassin said:

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And then there was Offgust... all alone. Damn that one day!


Yea, I mean what was even the point of clocking in for the one day in August....
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Redbrickbear said:

Assassin said:

Redbrickbear said:



And then there was Offgust... all alone. Damn that one day!


Yea, I mean what was even the point of clocking in for the one day in August....

Yea, the Dems could have spent a month in the South of France with their constituents...
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Assassin said:

Redbrickbear said:

Assassin said:

Redbrickbear said:



And then there was Offgust... all alone. Damn that one day!


Yea, I mean what was even the point of clocking in for the one day in August....

Yea, the Dems could have spent a month in the South of France with their constituents...

The overwhelming majority of the people that were my neighbors for the last 13 years voted blue and I doubt more than a handful of them could find France on a map nevermind tell you which was is South.

They don't get elected on the backs of elites
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nein51 said:

Assassin said:

Redbrickbear said:

Assassin said:

Redbrickbear said:



And then there was Offgust... all alone. Damn that one day!


Yea, I mean what was even the point of clocking in for the one day in August....

Yea, the Dems could have spent a month in the South of France with their constituents...

The overwhelming majority of the people that were my neighbors for the last 13 years voted blue and I doubt more than a handful of them could find France on a map nevermind tell you which was is South.

They don't get elected on the backs of elites

We are speaking of Democrat politicians being off of the month of August, not rank and file. However you are correct in saying that Democrat rank and file arent the sharpest tools in the shed
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But F-U if you want to leave work 20 mins early to pick up your kid at school.....
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This will not go well....

nein51
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Jack Bauer said:

This will not go well....



I've been saying forever that customers need to have choices and the easiest way to do that is to pass a % of the savings to them.

MRI1 is $4500
MRI2 is $2000

Customer chooses. If they choose to save the insurance company $2500 they get $500. Huge win for everyone.
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nein51 said:

Jack Bauer said:

This will not go well....



I've been saying forever that customers need to have choices and the easiest way to do that is to pass a % of the savings to them.

MRI1 is $4500
MRI2 is $2000

Customer chooses. If they choose to save the insurance company $2500 they get $500. Huge win for everyone.


How much money is the government going to "give back" to us

Does customer even have $2000 on them??
Assassin
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nein51 said:

Jack Bauer said:

This will not go well....



I've been saying forever that customers need to have choices and the easiest way to do that is to pass a % of the savings to them.

MRI1 is $4500
MRI2 is $2000

Customer chooses. If they choose to save the insurance company $2500 they get $500. Huge win for everyone.

My only fear on this is that they use the funds on other things than health insurance and then have none. Would be nice if they could get a debit card for which the initial purchase must be health insurance, then they could have whatever is left over
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nein51
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Jack Bauer said:

nein51 said:

Jack Bauer said:

This will not go well....



I've been saying forever that customers need to have choices and the easiest way to do that is to pass a % of the savings to them.

MRI1 is $4500
MRI2 is $2000

Customer chooses. If they choose to save the insurance company $2500 they get $500. Huge win for everyone.


How much money is the government going to "give back" to us

Does customer even have $2000 on them??

To be clear I'm not talking about government involvement. I'm talking about the insurance company paying. I don't want the government in health care or anything else. They screw up 100% of what they touch.

Example: I need some X-rays. If I wanted them done that day it was out of network and painfully expensive. If I could do Wednesday that day it saved a ton. It made sense to wait.
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A key here is price. People should know what things cost.

The idea that you should commit to a procedure with no clear numbers is obscene.
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Assassin said:

nein51 said:

Jack Bauer said:

This will not go well....



I've been saying forever that customers need to have choices and the easiest way to do that is to pass a % of the savings to them.

MRI1 is $4500
MRI2 is $2000

Customer chooses. If they choose to save the insurance company $2500 they get $500. Huge win for everyone.

My only fear on this is that they use the funds on other things than health insurance and then have none. Would be nice if they could get a debit card for which the initial purchase must be health insurance, then they could have whatever is left over

You give the average american consumer a bolus of cash for "health insurance purchase" and they will spend that money on tattoos, hair extensions and car payment. When the time comes and they or children need health care they won't have health insurance.

canoso
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BearFan33 said:

Assassin said:

nein51 said:

Jack Bauer said:

This will not go well....



I've been saying forever that customers need to have choices and the easiest way to do that is to pass a % of the savings to them.

MRI1 is $4500
MRI2 is $2000

Customer chooses. If they choose to save the insurance company $2500 they get $500. Huge win for everyone.

My only fear on this is that they use the funds on other things than health insurance and then have none. Would be nice if they could get a debit card for which the initial purchase must be health insurance, then they could have whatever is left over

You give the average american consumer a bolus of cash for "health insurance purchase" and they will spend that money on tattoos, hair extensions and car payment. When the time comes and they or children need health care they won't have health insurance.



And if that happens, it'll be exclusively on them. Tough toenails.Way past time to return to the reality of personal responsibility, isn't it? The crybaby victim "progress" has to end. Get the government out of it and it will.
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BearFan33 said:

Assassin said:

nein51 said:

Jack Bauer said:

This will not go well....



I've been saying forever that customers need to have choices and the easiest way to do that is to pass a % of the savings to them.

MRI1 is $4500
MRI2 is $2000

Customer chooses. If they choose to save the insurance company $2500 they get $500. Huge win for everyone.

My only fear on this is that they use the funds on other things than health insurance and then have none. Would be nice if they could get a debit card for which the initial purchase must be health insurance, then they could have whatever is left over

You give the average american consumer a bolus of cash for "health insurance purchase" and they will spend that money on tattoos, hair extensions and car payment. When the time comes and they or children need health care they won't have health insurance.


they should get a health savings account that stock piles money over their lifetime and it can only be used for medical expenses or insurance premiums. If you dont use it, sits and accumulates interest for when you do..

If you die, it goes back to the feds to reissue to another citizen.
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BearFan33 said:

Assassin said:

nein51 said:

Jack Bauer said:

This will not go well....



I've been saying forever that customers need to have choices and the easiest way to do that is to pass a % of the savings to them.

MRI1 is $4500
MRI2 is $2000

Customer chooses. If they choose to save the insurance company $2500 they get $500. Huge win for everyone.

My only fear on this is that they use the funds on other things than health insurance and then have none. Would be nice if they could get a debit card for which the initial purchase must be health insurance, then they could have whatever is left over

You give the average american consumer a bolus of cash for "health insurance purchase" and they will spend that money on tattoos, hair extensions and car payment. When the time comes and they or children need health care they won't have health insurance.

No. The Debit Card only works with Healthcare being the first charge on it. If they are frugal, they get the healthcare, the card unlocks and they get whatever is left over to spend as they will
"I will not die today, but the same cannot be said for you." - From Assassin's Creed
BearFan33
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4th and Inches said:

BearFan33 said:

Assassin said:

nein51 said:

Jack Bauer said:

This will not go well....



I've been saying forever that customers need to have choices and the easiest way to do that is to pass a % of the savings to them.

MRI1 is $4500
MRI2 is $2000

Customer chooses. If they choose to save the insurance company $2500 they get $500. Huge win for everyone.

My only fear on this is that they use the funds on other things than health insurance and then have none. Would be nice if they could get a debit card for which the initial purchase must be health insurance, then they could have whatever is left over

You give the average american consumer a bolus of cash for "health insurance purchase" and they will spend that money on tattoos, hair extensions and car payment. When the time comes and they or children need health care they won't have health insurance.



they should get a health savings account that stock piles money over their lifetime and it can only be used for medical expenses or insurance premiums. If you dont use it, sits and accumulates interest for when you do..

If you die, it goes back to the feds to reissue to another citizen.

Not a bad idea but it would have to be policed. Current HSA is on the honor system. You claim on your taxes that your purchases were only for "qualified medical expenses." You can get burned if you cheat and are audited. Something more rigorous would need to be employed IMO.
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BearFan33 said:

Assassin said:

nein51 said:

Jack Bauer said:

This will not go well....



I've been saying forever that customers need to have choices and the easiest way to do that is to pass a % of the savings to them.

MRI1 is $4500
MRI2 is $2000

Customer chooses. If they choose to save the insurance company $2500 they get $500. Huge win for everyone.

My only fear on this is that they use the funds on other things than health insurance and then have none. Would be nice if they could get a debit card for which the initial purchase must be health insurance, then they could have whatever is left over

You give the average american consumer a bolus of cash for "health insurance purchase" and they will spend that money on tattoos, hair extensions and car payment. When the time comes and they or children need health care they won't have health insurance.



Bought me an AR-15 with the first round of Covid stimulus money. Not sure that is what Big Brother had in mind.
Call it a tax, the people are outraged! Call it a tariff, the people get out their checkbooks and wave their American flags!!!
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

BearFan33 said:

Assassin said:

nein51 said:

Jack Bauer said:

This will not go well....



I've been saying forever that customers need to have choices and the easiest way to do that is to pass a % of the savings to them.

MRI1 is $4500
MRI2 is $2000

Customer chooses. If they choose to save the insurance company $2500 they get $500. Huge win for everyone.

My only fear on this is that they use the funds on other things than health insurance and then have none. Would be nice if they could get a debit card for which the initial purchase must be health insurance, then they could have whatever is left over

You give the average american consumer a bolus of cash for "health insurance purchase" and they will spend that money on tattoos, hair extensions and car payment. When the time comes and they or children need health care they won't have health insurance.



Bought me an AR-15 with the first round of Covid stimulus money. Not sure that is what Big Brother had in mind.


Not a bad idea. Can't wait for this next round
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canoso
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BearFan33 said:

4th and Inches said:

BearFan33 said:

Assassin said:

nein51 said:

Jack Bauer said:

This will not go well....



I've been saying forever that customers need to have choices and the easiest way to do that is to pass a % of the savings to them.

MRI1 is $4500
MRI2 is $2000

Customer chooses. If they choose to save the insurance company $2500 they get $500. Huge win for everyone.

My only fear on this is that they use the funds on other things than health insurance and then have none. Would be nice if they could get a debit card for which the initial purchase must be health insurance, then they could have whatever is left over

You give the average american consumer a bolus of cash for "health insurance purchase" and they will spend that money on tattoos, hair extensions and car payment. When the time comes and they or children need health care they won't have health insurance.



they should get a health savings account that stock piles money over their lifetime and it can only be used for medical expenses or insurance premiums. If you dont use it, sits and accumulates interest for when you do..

If you die, it goes back to the feds to reissue to another citizen.

Not a bad idea but it would have to be policed. Current HSA is on the honor system. You claim on your taxes that your purchases were only for "qualified medical expenses." You can get burned if you cheat and are audited. Something more rigorous would need to be employed IMO.
Nope. The bane of our culture now is that no one has to face consequences for one's own decisions/ actions. See articles today on the teenage door front door kickers, et al
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Wow Sleepy Joe still causing problems 10 months after he left office

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Oldbear83 said:

A key here is price. People should know what things cost.

The idea that you should commit to a procedure with no clear numbers is obscene.


This drives me crazy... especially with emergency care.

My wife needed emergency care a few years ago. She ended up spending 2 nights in the hospital. Everything ended up ok thankfully. They were trying to keep her a third night. We finally said we are just going to walk out of here...then we magically got the discharge papers.

Anyway...a few months later the bills start rolling in. Even with insurance I think our final charge was something like $8,000.

I asked for an itemized bill so I could try and protest certain charges...but of course we had very little leverage because we had already used their services. Working with the hospital on the bill went nowhere.

I found this legal service that will help you fight the bill if you agree to pay them 25% of what they are able to save you. I think they ended up getting $3,000 knocked off the bill for us.

I was happy to get the bill reduced… but even more pissed that it proved what I already knew…that they were overcharging us.
nein51
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boognish_bear said:

Oldbear83 said:

A key here is price. People should know what things cost.

The idea that you should commit to a procedure with no clear numbers is obscene.


This drives me crazy... especially with emergency care.

My wife needed emergency care a few years ago. She ended up spending 2 nights in the hospital. Everything ended up ok thankfully. They were trying to keep her a third night. We finally said we are just going to walk out of here...then we magically got the discharge papers.

Anyway...a few months later the bills start rolling in. Even with insurance I think our final charge was something like $8,000.

I asked for an itemized bill so I could try and protest certain charges...but of course we had very little leverage because we had already used their services. Working with the hospital on the bill went nowhere.

I found this legal service that will help you fight the bill if you agree to pay them 25% of what they are able to save you. I think they ended up getting $3,000 knocked off the bill for us.

I was happy to get the bill reduced… but even more pissed that it proved what I already knew…that they were overcharging us.

You probably didn't need the legal service. Most hospitals will negotiate for free.

The problem is the disconnect in the cost of providing service and the billable amount to the insurance.

Ie…there really is no price.

The singular downside to patients being involved in the money is the (very likely) possibility that people choose to save money rather than seek the correct care.
boognish_bear
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nein51 said:

boognish_bear said:

Oldbear83 said:

A key here is price. People should know what things cost.

The idea that you should commit to a procedure with no clear numbers is obscene.


This drives me crazy... especially with emergency care.

My wife needed emergency care a few years ago. She ended up spending 2 nights in the hospital. Everything ended up ok thankfully. They were trying to keep her a third night. We finally said we are just going to walk out of here...then we magically got the discharge papers.

Anyway...a few months later the bills start rolling in. Even with insurance I think our final charge was something like $8,000.

I asked for an itemized bill so I could try and protest certain charges...but of course we had very little leverage because we had already used their services. Working with the hospital on the bill went nowhere.

I found this legal service that will help you fight the bill if you agree to pay them 25% of what they are able to save you. I think they ended up getting $3,000 knocked off the bill for us.

I was happy to get the bill reduced… but even more pissed that it proved what I already knew…that they were overcharging us.

You probably didn't need the legal service. Most hospitals will negotiate for free.

The problem is the disconnect in the cost of providing service and the billable amount to the insurance.

Ie…there really is no price.

The singular downside to patients being involved in the money is the (very likely) possibility that people choose to save money rather than seek the correct care.


Maybe my approach was wrong… but I got stonewalled when I tried to negotiate with hospital administration. I told them I would pay it outright on the spot if we can negotiate it.... but it went nowhere.

Part of the problem is I'm not educated enough on medical billing to argue specific points. I knew they were overcharging me… but I was not knowledgeable enough to point out which medications and exams were overcharged etc.

It took the legal service I used about three months of negotiating to get it to where they got it.
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I had some pretty severe bills about 3-4 years ago when I went in for septic UTI. Got the hospital reduced by the Dallas Ambulanced didnt drop a penny! I used them twice and as a "elder" I got a reduced rate by it was still about $400 each time. That was nothing compared to all the other bills. I felt like every single induvial that worked on me had a separate bill
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