Trump's first 100 days

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FLBear5630 said:

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Question, honestly.

You guys are saying that if you don't agree with everything Israel does, you are not supporting Israel? Do I agree with Israel's values and want an ally Democracy in the ME? Yes. Do I agree with the bombing of Iran and starting this mess? No. So, now I am anti-Israel? This zero-sum game **** is what is wrong with the Nation. I don't have to agree with everything.

So, we are now in the era of political conformity? Isn't that what Fetterman just accused the Dems of doing? I don't agree with how Trump handles his and the Nation's business, so I am TDS. That is BS.

Beware Tucker's rabbit hole. Many here are already deep in it.


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We could really use a ln Eisenhower right now, someone calm and understands how to calm things back down. We can use a "Hidden Hand" approach again...

Enough disruption and chaos.
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Mitch Blood Green said:

boognish_bear said:




Melania was an H-1B.

Melanie is a HO, plain and simple. She is nothing but a 3rd world Nookie Girl. I give you her husband. She ain't in it for amazing personality, integrity, saggy ole eff. She a HO. At least she knows her third world place and STFU and doesn't say much. She's prolly smarter than Donnie, though.
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FLBear5630 said:

We could really use a ln Eisenhower right now, someone calm and understands how to calm things back down. We can use a "Hidden Hand" approach again...

Enough disruption and chaos.

We've had a long line of nice guys, spoke softly and wore the suit well. Are people happy now? And how much is the federal deficit? The guys with "presidential timber" let NoKo have nukes, and nearly let Iran have them, while spending trillions on irrational nation-building exercises. Working class wages stagnated over the last 20 years as we outsourced jobs abroad. We let China into the WTO and gave them MFN status, and they now have 12x the steep production capacity we do. We let TENS OF MILLIONS of illegal aliens cross our borders and called anyone who complained about it a racist. How many more examples of pathology do I need to provide?

Every remodeling job starts with demolition.
Change requires disruption.
Chaos is a ladder.
Trump is definitely not a leader for all times.
But he is exactly the leader we need at this juncture in time.
He has the right plan.
He is relentless in executing it.
Most voters are going to hate every moment of his term.
But we will be better off for it.

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whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

We could really use a ln Eisenhower right now, someone calm and understands how to calm things back down. We can use a "Hidden Hand" approach again...

Enough disruption and chaos.

We've had a long line of nice guys, spoke softly and wore the suit well. Are people happy now? And how much is the federal deficit? The guys with "presidential timber" let NoKo have nukes, and nearly let Iran have them, while spending trillions on irrational nation-building exercises. Working class wages stagnated over the last 20 years as we outsourced jobs abroad. We let China into the WTO and gave them MFN status, and they now have 12x the steep production capacity we do. We let TENS OF MILLIONS of illegal aliens cross our borders and called anyone who complained about it a racist. How many more examples of pathology do I need to provide?

Every remodeling job starts with demolition.
Change requires disruption.
Chaos is a ladder.
Trump is definitely not a leader for all times.
But he is exactly the leader we need at this juncture in time.
He has the right plan.
He is relentless in executing it.
Most voters are going to hate every moment of his term.
But we will be better off for it.



BS, Eisenhower wasn't a nice guy. He was a calm and professional. He sent the 101st in Arkansas. He ended the Korean War with an armistice by bringing Nukes into the equation. He had the balls to say no to Suez. So, don't give us the nice guy ****, how about a professional? I said we need a "Hidden Hand" approach, not a nice guy. You love twisting to fit your narrative.

By the way, how many of those items has Trump played a role in? The NoKo Nukes, Deficit, wages, actually your whole list Trump was part of creating either in his first term or now. And he is definitely not a "leader", I use that loosely. We do need a real leader BADLY. Trump is a trainwreck.
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FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

We could really use a ln Eisenhower right now, someone calm and understands how to calm things back down. We can use a "Hidden Hand" approach again...

Enough disruption and chaos.

We've had a long line of nice guys, spoke softly and wore the suit well. Are people happy now? And how much is the federal deficit? The guys with "presidential timber" let NoKo have nukes, and nearly let Iran have them, while spending trillions on irrational nation-building exercises. Working class wages stagnated over the last 20 years as we outsourced jobs abroad. We let China into the WTO and gave them MFN status, and they now have 12x the steep production capacity we do. We let TENS OF MILLIONS of illegal aliens cross our borders and called anyone who complained about it a racist. How many more examples of pathology do I need to provide?

Every remodeling job starts with demolition.
Change requires disruption.
Chaos is a ladder.
Trump is definitely not a leader for all times.
But he is exactly the leader we need at this juncture in time.
He has the right plan.
He is relentless in executing it.
Most voters are going to hate every moment of his term.
But we will be better off for it.



BS, Eisenhower wasn't a nice guy. He was a calm and professional. He sent the 101st in Arkansas. He ended the Korean War with an armistice by bringing Nukes into the equation. He had the balls to say no to Suez. So, don't give us the nice guy ****, how about a professional? I said we need a "Hidden Hand" approach, not a nice guy. You love twisting to fit your narrative.

By the way, how many of those items has Trump played a role in? The NoKo Nukes, Deficit, wages, actually your whole list Trump was part of creating either in his first term or now. And he is definitely not a "leader", I use that loosely. We do need a real leader BADLY. Trump is a trainwreck.

LOL I wasn't referring to Ike. Was referring to the last several uniparty Presidents. But now that you've mentioned it please explain how the 101st was a "hidden hand."
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whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

We could really use a ln Eisenhower right now, someone calm and understands how to calm things back down. We can use a "Hidden Hand" approach again...

Enough disruption and chaos.

We've had a long line of nice guys, spoke softly and wore the suit well. Are people happy now? And how much is the federal deficit? The guys with "presidential timber" let NoKo have nukes, and nearly let Iran have them, while spending trillions on irrational nation-building exercises. Working class wages stagnated over the last 20 years as we outsourced jobs abroad. We let China into the WTO and gave them MFN status, and they now have 12x the steep production capacity we do. We let TENS OF MILLIONS of illegal aliens cross our borders and called anyone who complained about it a racist. How many more examples of pathology do I need to provide?

Every remodeling job starts with demolition.
Change requires disruption.
Chaos is a ladder.
Trump is definitely not a leader for all times.
But he is exactly the leader we need at this juncture in time.
He has the right plan.
He is relentless in executing it.
Most voters are going to hate every moment of his term.
But we will be better off for it.



BS, Eisenhower wasn't a nice guy. He was a calm and professional. He sent the 101st in Arkansas. He ended the Korean War with an armistice by bringing Nukes into the equation. He had the balls to say no to Suez. So, don't give us the nice guy ****, how about a professional? I said we need a "Hidden Hand" approach, not a nice guy. You love twisting to fit your narrative.

By the way, how many of those items has Trump played a role in? The NoKo Nukes, Deficit, wages, actually your whole list Trump was part of creating either in his first term or now. And he is definitely not a "leader", I use that loosely. We do need a real leader BADLY. Trump is a trainwreck.

LOL I wasn't referring to Ike. Was referring to the last several uniparty Presidents. But now that you've mentioned it please explain how the 101st was a "hidden hand."

Geez, it isn't and wasn't meant to. I was referring to that situation to show he could be tough, when he needed to be and still be civil. But you knew that.

Ike knew that being an ******* was counterproductive. A lesson Donald never learned.
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FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

We could really use a ln Eisenhower right now, someone calm and understands how to calm things back down. We can use a "Hidden Hand" approach again...

Enough disruption and chaos.

We've had a long line of nice guys, spoke softly and wore the suit well. Are people happy now? And how much is the federal deficit? The guys with "presidential timber" let NoKo have nukes, and nearly let Iran have them, while spending trillions on irrational nation-building exercises. Working class wages stagnated over the last 20 years as we outsourced jobs abroad. We let China into the WTO and gave them MFN status, and they now have 12x the steep production capacity we do. We let TENS OF MILLIONS of illegal aliens cross our borders and called anyone who complained about it a racist. How many more examples of pathology do I need to provide?

Every remodeling job starts with demolition.
Change requires disruption.
Chaos is a ladder.
Trump is definitely not a leader for all times.
But he is exactly the leader we need at this juncture in time.
He has the right plan.
He is relentless in executing it.
Most voters are going to hate every moment of his term.
But we will be better off for it.



BS, Eisenhower wasn't a nice guy. He was a calm and professional. He sent the 101st in Arkansas. He ended the Korean War with an armistice by bringing Nukes into the equation. He had the balls to say no to Suez. So, don't give us the nice guy ****, how about a professional? I said we need a "Hidden Hand" approach, not a nice guy. You love twisting to fit your narrative.

By the way, how many of those items has Trump played a role in? The NoKo Nukes, Deficit, wages, actually your whole list Trump was part of creating either in his first term or now. And he is definitely not a "leader", I use that loosely. We do need a real leader BADLY. Trump is a trainwreck.

LOL I wasn't referring to Ike. Was referring to the last several uniparty Presidents. But now that you've mentioned it please explain how the 101st was a "hidden hand."

Geez, it isn't and wasn't meant to. I was referring to that situation to show he could be tough, when he needed to be and still be civil. But you knew that.

Ike knew that being an ******* was counterproductive. A lesson Donald never learned.


In addition to being tough he also knew when to be soft/caring and when to take blame. If D-Day failed he was ready to let the blame start and stop with himself. I don't remember the exact wording but know he did not like having to hide things from the public like Slapton Sands (Operation Tiger), or many other top decisions that are sometimes looked at as cold or heartless.

He also understood it wasn't all about John Wayne glory guys and that we won the war because of the Red Ball Express, Victory Ships, supply, mechanics, and all other non combat roles that made our combat roles effective.
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cowboycwr said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

We could really use a ln Eisenhower right now, someone calm and understands how to calm things back down. We can use a "Hidden Hand" approach again...

Enough disruption and chaos.

We've had a long line of nice guys, spoke softly and wore the suit well. Are people happy now? And how much is the federal deficit? The guys with "presidential timber" let NoKo have nukes, and nearly let Iran have them, while spending trillions on irrational nation-building exercises. Working class wages stagnated over the last 20 years as we outsourced jobs abroad. We let China into the WTO and gave them MFN status, and they now have 12x the steep production capacity we do. We let TENS OF MILLIONS of illegal aliens cross our borders and called anyone who complained about it a racist. How many more examples of pathology do I need to provide?

Every remodeling job starts with demolition.
Change requires disruption.
Chaos is a ladder.
Trump is definitely not a leader for all times.
But he is exactly the leader we need at this juncture in time.
He has the right plan.
He is relentless in executing it.
Most voters are going to hate every moment of his term.
But we will be better off for it.



BS, Eisenhower wasn't a nice guy. He was a calm and professional. He sent the 101st in Arkansas. He ended the Korean War with an armistice by bringing Nukes into the equation. He had the balls to say no to Suez. So, don't give us the nice guy ****, how about a professional? I said we need a "Hidden Hand" approach, not a nice guy. You love twisting to fit your narrative.

By the way, how many of those items has Trump played a role in? The NoKo Nukes, Deficit, wages, actually your whole list Trump was part of creating either in his first term or now. And he is definitely not a "leader", I use that loosely. We do need a real leader BADLY. Trump is a trainwreck.

LOL I wasn't referring to Ike. Was referring to the last several uniparty Presidents. But now that you've mentioned it please explain how the 101st was a "hidden hand."

Geez, it isn't and wasn't meant to. I was referring to that situation to show he could be tough, when he needed to be and still be civil. But you knew that.

Ike knew that being an ******* was counterproductive. A lesson Donald never learned.


In addition to being tough he also knew when to be soft/caring and when to take blame. If D-Day failed he was ready to let the blame start and stop with himself. I don't remember the exact wording but know he did not like having to hide things from the public like Slapton Sands (Operation Tiger), or many other top decisions that are sometimes looked at as cold or heartless.

He also understood it wasn't all about John Wayne glory guys and that we won the war because of the Red Ball Express, Victory Ships, supply, mechanics, and all other non combat roles that made our combat roles effective.

Dead on... Thanks, you said it better. Nobody knew the value and frustration of working in logistics and support.
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boognish_bear said:



How is that translating into the special elections between the two parties?
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Incredible read
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boognish_bear said:



We are going to get destroyed in November
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nein51 said:

boognish_bear said:



We are going to get destroyed in November


Dems seem to have zero strong leadership right now and their only messaging seems to be we hate Trump...but that may still work
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FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

We could really use a ln Eisenhower right now, someone calm and understands how to calm things back down. We can use a "Hidden Hand" approach again...

Enough disruption and chaos.

We've had a long line of nice guys, spoke softly and wore the suit well. Are people happy now? And how much is the federal deficit? The guys with "presidential timber" let NoKo have nukes, and nearly let Iran have them, while spending trillions on irrational nation-building exercises. Working class wages stagnated over the last 20 years as we outsourced jobs abroad. We let China into the WTO and gave them MFN status, and they now have 12x the steep production capacity we do. We let TENS OF MILLIONS of illegal aliens cross our borders and called anyone who complained about it a racist. How many more examples of pathology do I need to provide?

Every remodeling job starts with demolition.
Change requires disruption.
Chaos is a ladder.
Trump is definitely not a leader for all times.
But he is exactly the leader we need at this juncture in time.
He has the right plan.
He is relentless in executing it.
Most voters are going to hate every moment of his term.
But we will be better off for it.



BS, Eisenhower wasn't a nice guy. He was a calm and professional. He sent the 101st in Arkansas. He ended the Korean War with an armistice by bringing Nukes into the equation. He had the balls to say no to Suez. So, don't give us the nice guy ****, how about a professional? I said we need a "Hidden Hand" approach, not a nice guy. You love twisting to fit your narrative.

By the way, how many of those items has Trump played a role in? The NoKo Nukes, Deficit, wages, actually your whole list Trump was part of creating either in his first term or now. And he is definitely not a "leader", I use that loosely. We do need a real leader BADLY. Trump is a trainwreck.

LOL I wasn't referring to Ike. Was referring to the last several uniparty Presidents. But now that you've mentioned it please explain how the 101st was a "hidden hand."

Geez, it isn't and wasn't meant to. I was referring to that situation to show he could be tough, when he needed to be and still be civil. But you knew that.

Ike knew that being an ******* was counterproductive. A lesson Donald never learned.


There is a time and a place for it. Now is that kind of time. Voters are cranky. They elected Obama hoping for change. They elected Biden as a reaction against Trump. Then elected Trump as a reaction to BIden. And they're going to keep doing that until their grievances are redressed.

I've said it many, many times. There is basically no middle ground anymore. The two sides don't agree on anything, not even the definition of what is a boy and what is a girl. One side is going to have to win and the other is going to have to lose. That's not a next-election thing, but rather a trend over time. And the trends are moving toward the GOP. Republicans are winning the culture. Winning the registration battles. Ahead in party identification. Have the best position the media in my lifetime. Yes, there will be what Rayburn called "beefsteak elections".....blips in trendlines. We may be headed that way in 2026. But the long-term trends are very, very favorable for Republicans.
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whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

whiterock said:

FLBear5630 said:

We could really use a ln Eisenhower right now, someone calm and understands how to calm things back down. We can use a "Hidden Hand" approach again...

Enough disruption and chaos.

We've had a long line of nice guys, spoke softly and wore the suit well. Are people happy now? And how much is the federal deficit? The guys with "presidential timber" let NoKo have nukes, and nearly let Iran have them, while spending trillions on irrational nation-building exercises. Working class wages stagnated over the last 20 years as we outsourced jobs abroad. We let China into the WTO and gave them MFN status, and they now have 12x the steep production capacity we do. We let TENS OF MILLIONS of illegal aliens cross our borders and called anyone who complained about it a racist. How many more examples of pathology do I need to provide?

Every remodeling job starts with demolition.
Change requires disruption.
Chaos is a ladder.
Trump is definitely not a leader for all times.
But he is exactly the leader we need at this juncture in time.
He has the right plan.
He is relentless in executing it.
Most voters are going to hate every moment of his term.
But we will be better off for it.



BS, Eisenhower wasn't a nice guy. He was a calm and professional. He sent the 101st in Arkansas. He ended the Korean War with an armistice by bringing Nukes into the equation. He had the balls to say no to Suez. So, don't give us the nice guy ****, how about a professional? I said we need a "Hidden Hand" approach, not a nice guy. You love twisting to fit your narrative.

By the way, how many of those items has Trump played a role in? The NoKo Nukes, Deficit, wages, actually your whole list Trump was part of creating either in his first term or now. And he is definitely not a "leader", I use that loosely. We do need a real leader BADLY. Trump is a trainwreck.

LOL I wasn't referring to Ike. Was referring to the last several uniparty Presidents. But now that you've mentioned it please explain how the 101st was a "hidden hand."

Geez, it isn't and wasn't meant to. I was referring to that situation to show he could be tough, when he needed to be and still be civil. But you knew that.

Ike knew that being an ******* was counterproductive. A lesson Donald never learned.


There is a time and a place for it. Now is that kind of time. Voters are cranky. They elected Obama hoping for change. They elected Biden as a reaction against Trump. Then elected Trump as a reaction to BIden. And they're going to keep doing that until their grievances are redressed.

I've said it many, many times. There is basically no middle ground anymore. The two sides don't agree on anything, not even the definition of what is a boy and what is a girl. One side is going to have to win and the other is going to have to lose. That's not a next-election thing, but rather a trend over time. And the trends are moving toward the GOP. Republicans are winning the culture. Winning the registration battles. Ahead in party identification. Have the best position the media in my lifetime. Yes, there will be what Rayburn called "beefsteak elections".....blips in trendlines. We may be headed that way in 2026. But the long-term trends are very, very favorable for Republicans.


But all the usable space is in the middle, the far sides are just gutters.

An Administration can be tough without extortion, insults and brutish behavior. Take the comments today, I want Greenland, they said No, so bye-bye. That is extortion. We will stay part of NATO if you give me what i want. Come on? The whole way they operate is not right.
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So how is that translating into the special election results between the two parties?
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Sic 'em Bears and Go Birds
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Assassin said:



Who is the man in the lower picture?
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Osodecentx said:

Assassin said:



Who is the man in the lower picture?


President of El Sav
Sic 'em Bears and Go Birds
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BigGameBaylorBear said:

Osodecentx said:

Assassin said:



Who is the man in the lower picture?


President of El Sav

I'm sorry, I believe the term you're looking for is elected dictator…

To his credit he has cleaned up the streets. If only we didn't have due process here and you could just round up anyone you thought was a bad actor and throw them in jail never to be heard from again…or something like that.
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If only…..
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BUDOS said:

So how is that translating into the special election results between the two parties?

The problem with nation-wide polling, is that it has no specific relevance to the mid-term elections coming up. That means 470 seats will be decided (435 House and 35 Senate seats) this fall, and each is going to be decided according to the voters in those states or districts. Frankly, polling is sparse for most of those contests, even where it exists.

But there is no shortage of assumptions, from people who say the Economy will largely decide the election (usually true), to those who say mid-term elections will go against the Party in the White House (also usually true, though less common than the Economy as the driving issue), to those who say the mid-term election is a referendum on the sitting President (depends on the issue, the media, and the public mood), to those really worked up on something that annoys them and they are sure this will decide the election (usually BS), to those who just are so emotionally invested in their assumptions that they will ignore anything else.

This board has a large number of the last sort.

At this time, I believe the Democrats are in position to retake the House as well as the Senate unless things change. The House because of the usual swing mid-term, and the Senate because the GOP Senate has managed to piss off majorities of Democrats, Independents, nominal Republicans, Trump supporters, and just about everyone else. The polls saying Republicans lead in voter support are nice as far as they go, but they are not office-specific and in any case, the voter mood will gel sometime in mid-June; getting excited either way now is completely premature.

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nein51 said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Osodecentx said:

Assassin said:



Who is the man in the lower picture?


President of El Sav

I'm sorry, I believe the term you're looking for is elected dictator…

To his credit he has cleaned up the streets. If only we didn't have due process here and you could just round up anyone you thought was a bad actor and throw them in jail never to be heard from again…or something like that.

If only...
"If you don't have wrinkles, you haven't laughed enough" - Phillis Diller
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Oldbear83 said:

BUDOS said:

So how is that translating into the special election results between the two parties?

The problem with nation-wide polling, is that it has no specific relevance to the mid-term elections coming up. That means 470 seats will be decided (435 House and 35 Senate seats) this fall, and each is going to be decided according to the voters in those states or districts. Frankly, polling is sparse for most of those contests, even where it exists.

But there is no shortage of assumptions, from people who say the Economy will largely decide the election (usually true), to those who say mid-term elections will go against the Party in the White House (also usually true, though less common than the Economy as the driving issue), to those who say the mid-term election is a referendum on the sitting President (depends on the issue, the media, and the public mood), to those really worked up on something that annoys them and they are sure this will decide the election (usually BS), to those who just are so emotionally invested in their assumptions that they will ignore anything else.

This board has a large number of the last sort.

At this time, I believe the Democrats are in position to retake the House as well as the Senate unless things change. The House because of the usual swing mid-term, and the Senate because the GOP Senate has managed to piss off majorities of Democrats, Independents, nominal Republicans, Trump supporters, and just about everyone else. The polls saying Republicans lead in voter support are nice as far as they go, but they are not office-specific and in any case, the voter mood will gel sometime in mid-June; getting excited either way now is completely premature.

Premature electionation?
"If you don't have wrinkles, you haven't laughed enough" - Phillis Diller
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Assassin said:

nein51 said:

BigGameBaylorBear said:

Osodecentx said:

Assassin said:



Who is the man in the lower picture?


President of El Sav

I'm sorry, I believe the term you're looking for is elected dictator…

To his credit he has cleaned up the streets. If only we didn't have due process here and you could just round up anyone you thought was a bad actor and throw them in jail never to be heard from again…or something like that.

If only...

I think we are wishing for different things. I prefer to not live in that sort of dictatorship
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