Trump's first 100 days

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1:18a, 4/21/26
another cabinet secretary forced to resign. Wow, what a sorted affair this is..... 4 in 2 weeks, Patel next. Only the best people.
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In reply to BUDOS • 9:06a, 4/21/26
BUDOS said:
Oldbear83 said:
Sam Lowry said:
Oldbear83 said:
Assassin said:
Sam Lowry said:
FLBear5630 said:
the Jihadist Can't say I disagree. ALL should serve.

No way, no thanks.

I can understand that, you not being an American and all

Every single US citizen should serve at least a year. It could be Armed Force, maybe other placement in the Government but for a larger stint

Personally, if someone hates our country and military, I like the idea that they never get close to the weapons systems for our defense.

Yet you went and voted for Trump three times.

Of course. Trump doesn't hate America, that's what you and Porteroso do.

You just lie about it and somehow imagine folks will buy into it.

Oldbear,
I have finally been able to find time to respond to our last posts. It is very long, and I mean long. Would you prefer it in one post or to send it to you in sections?


Good morning BUDOS;

Seems like sections makes more sense. I will be out of pocket most of the day today though, old man doing medical stuff
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12:12p, 4/21/26
Trump says he'd have won Vietnam "quickly" had he been president.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-iran-war-vietnam-cnbc-b2961875.html
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"A day without sunshine is like, you know, night." — Steve Martin
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In reply to Mitch Blood Green • 12:51p, 4/21/26
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Trump says he'd have win Vietnam "quickly" has he been president.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-iran-war-vietnam-cnbc-b2961875.html


At this point, I'd rather listen to Biden talk about his favorite ice cream than Trump continuously make asinine remarks
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In reply to Assassin • 1:20p, 4/21/26
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Apparently that new proposed change would include the right to change around districts as they want, up until 2030
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In reply to BigGameBaylorBear • 1:34p, 4/21/26
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Mitch Blood Green said:
Trump says he'd have won Vietnam "quickly" had he been president.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-iran-war-vietnam-cnbc-b2961875.html


At this point, I'd rather listen to Biden talk about his favorite ice cream than Trump continuously make asinine remarks


Chocolate Chip? I do like ice cream.


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In reply to boognish_bear • 1:58p, 4/21/26
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It was 3% or less six months prior to the election with a peak of 3.5% for the whole of 2024.
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In reply to ATL Bear • 2:00p, 4/21/26
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boognish_bear said:

It was 3% or less six months prior to the election with a peak of 3.5% for the whole of 2024.

What Trump should have said was that 3% was on top of Biden's cost hikes before 2024.
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 3:28p, 4/21/26
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ATL Bear said:
boognish_bear said:

It was 3% or less six months prior to the election with a peak of 3.5% for the whole of 2024.

What Trump should have said was that 3% was on top of Biden's cost hikes before 2024.
Biden inflation was mostly post COVID supply chain scarcity, money supply explosion, and his stupid energy policies.
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In reply to ATL Bear • 3:38p, 4/21/26
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Oldbear83 said:
ATL Bear said:
boognish_bear said:

It was 3% or less six months prior to the election with a peak of 3.5% for the whole of 2024.

What Trump should have said was that 3% was on top of Biden's cost hikes before 2024.

Biden inflation was mostly post COVID supply chain scarcity, money supply explosion, and his stupid energy policies.

I'd suggest that a few of Trump's policies are stupid.

Just about all of Biden's policies were stupid, crooked, or both.

Btw, I hear Kamala plans to run for POTUS in 2028.
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 3:38p, 4/21/26
Oldbear83 said:
BUDOS said:
Oldbear83 said:
Sam Lowry said:
Oldbear83 said:
Assassin said:
Sam Lowry said:
FLBear5630 said:
the Jihadist Can't say I disagree. ALL should serve.

No way, no thanks.

I can understand that, you not being an American and all

Every single US citizen should serve at least a year. It could be Armed Force, maybe other placement in the Government but for a larger stint

Personally, if someone hates our country and military, I like the idea that they never get close to the weapons systems for our defense.

Yet you went and voted for Trump three times.

Of course. Trump doesn't hate America, that's what you and Porteroso do.

You just lie about it and somehow imagine folks will buy into it.

Oldbear,
I have finally been able to find time to respond to our last posts. It is very long, and I mean long. Would you prefer it in one post or to send it to you in sections?


Good morning BUDOS;

Seems like sections makes more sense. I will be out of pocket most of the day today though, old man doing medical stuff

Oldbear,
My response is long, very long; however, I have attempted to break it into sections. Overall I have your comments, usually in itlaics, and then inserted my responses. I'm hoping that you will respond to those areas, which I can then read, and then possibly respond. By doing this my goal is to get a better understanding of how you interpret your "facts" the way you do, and how I interpret them differently. Perhaps it will help both of us gain a better understanding of why we think and believe the way we do. I noticed that unlike some of your past posts, you stated that some of your points were "facts;" however, there were no sources indicated. I decided to follow a similar format; however if you do decide to identify your sources, I will consider doing the same. I do not mean this as a challenge, because as I may have stated before, our belief systems in this area are not congruent and not likely to make significant changes. However, I do consider it possible for me to make some additional adjustments, as you have played a part it before.

Here we go with the first section:

Good morning BUDOS; Here is my point. The J6 events have been discussed extensively over the last five years. The actions, responses and so on have been covered as well as can be.
We know, for example, that prior to his speech President Trump offered to bring in National Guard to keep D.C. secure, and that Nancy Pelosi declined that action. This is important because it demonstrates responsible consideration by the President which his enemies refuse to admit, but which is established fact;
Based on multiple investigations, fact-checks, and testimony, the statement that President Trump offered 10,000 National Guard troops and that Nancy Pelosi declined them is false.

There is no evidence that President Trump signed an order or made a formal offer of 10,00020,000 troops to be stationed at the Capitol on January 6.

While Trump told his Acting Secretary of Defense, Christopher Miller, to do "whatever necessary" to keep the day safe, Miller testified that he did not take this as a specific order for 10,000 troops and never passed such an offer to Congress.

As Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi did not have the authority to direct the National Guard. The D.C. National Guard reports to the President through the Secretary of Defense.

The decision to call the National Guard to the Capitol rested with the Capitol Police Board, which consists of the House Sergeant at Arms, Senate Sergeant at Arms, and the Architect of the Capitol. They did not request the Guard in advance.

As the Capitol was being breached, Pelosi and then-Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell called military officials to urge them to send the National Guard. Video footage taken on January 6, 2021, and released later showed Pelosi saying, "I take responsibility for not having them [the National Guard] just prepare for more," expressing frustration that the Capitol was unprepared. However, this is not evidence that she rejected a specific offer of 10,000 troops beforehand, which she has consistently denied.

In summary, the claim that Pelosi rejected an explicit offer of National Guard support from Trump is considered a fiction by investigators and fact-checkers.
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In reply to BUDOS • 3:47p, 4/21/26
Oh, BUDOS. I thought you better than someone to play with semantics.

President Trump certainly did offer to send National Guard troops, and we have objective support for that.

Ex-Capitol police chief slams Pelosi, says she rejected National Guard help Jan. 6

The Chief of the Capitol Police says so. He says he requested it because Trump asked, and Pelosi rejected it at that time.

Here's Who REALLY Denied National Guard Troops on January 6And It Wasn't Trump PJ Media

It appears your argument is based on the wording that because Trump's offer was in a phone call and not either an Executive Order or a formal request to the Speaker, that it did not happen.

That's intellectually dishonest, sir.

On to the next point, please.

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In reply to Oldbear83 • 6:53p, 4/21/26
Oldbear83 said:
ATL Bear said:
Oldbear83 said:
ATL Bear said:
boognish_bear said:

It was 3% or less six months prior to the election with a peak of 3.5% for the whole of 2024.

What Trump should have said was that 3% was on top of Biden's cost hikes before 2024.

Biden inflation was mostly post COVID supply chain scarcity, money supply explosion, and his stupid energy policies.

I'd suggest that a few of Trump's policies are stupid.

Just about all of Biden's policies were stupid, crooked, or both.

Btw, I hear Kamala plans to run for POTUS in 2028.

Has anyone run for POTUS before twice and been utterly defeated? She might be able to achieve that, if she puts her nose to the grindstone
"A day without sunshine is like, you know, night." — Steve Martin
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 7:27p, 4/21/26
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Oh, BUDOS. I thought you better than someone to play with semantics.

President Trump certainly did offer to send National Guard troops, and we have objective support for that.

Ex-Capitol police chief slams Pelosi, says she rejected National Guard help Jan. 6

The Chief of the Capitol Police says so. He says he requested it because Trump asked, and Pelosi rejected it at that time.

Here's Who REALLY Denied National Guard Troops on January 6And It Wasn't Trump PJ Media

It appears your argument is based on the wording that because Trump's offer was in a phone call and not either an Executive Order or a formal request to the Speaker, that it did not happen.

That's intellectually dishonest, sir.

On to the next point, please.


Okay Mr. Oldbear,
I will review those sources.
Now, speaking of semantics, please explain to me how I am so damn intellectually dishonest if I did not know about the sources you present?

Here is the next section. By the way, if those sources check out, then that is something that will help me learn more about trying to figure out more about the event and events surrounding it. For me this may be a bit difficult, however, it's what I want to find out.

Next section:

We know that President Trump asked protesters to march "peacefully", and that request was deleted by mainstream media, further confirming that Trump's enemies were maligning him falsely;

Yes, as I was watching this all day on different live TV stations, heard Trump did ask his supporters to march "peacefully and patriotically" during his speech on January 6, 2021.

In researching your above comment, whether this was "often deleted" by mainstream media is a matter of significant debate, especially since some recent findings indicate specific editing by major broadcasters which add credibility to your claim.

In his speech Trump stated, "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard".

Most mainstream outlets, including NPR, PBS, and The Washington Post, did publish full transcripts or acknowledged the "peacefully" remark in their reporting.

However, critics have often pointed to video montagessuch as those used during his second impeachment trialas being "deceptively edited" to exclude his call for peace.

I agree with the argument by most media outlets who state that the single mention of "peacefully" was outweighed by the rest of the 70-minute speech, in which he used the word "fight" or "fighting" 20 times.

I compare his "peacefully" remark as a secondary detail compared to his broader rhetoric, as Donald Trump was aware of potential violence on January 6, 2021, which included intelligence reports of armed supporters, warnings about extremist groups like the Proud Boys, and direct testimony that he dismissed security concerns to let armed supporters into his rally. He also reportedly intended to lead the march to the Capitol and watched the violent assault for hours on television without immediately acting.

Key indications include his knowledge of armed attendees and security warnings as the Secret Service and FBI received numerous tips about potential violence, including plans by the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers to target Congress. White House personnel were warned by advisors regarding the "words of violence" expected on the Hill.

Federal law enforcement agencies received numerous reports that far-right groups were openly preparing for weeks for a "final stand" to overturn the election, and observers warned that Trump's inflammatory rhetoric was escalating the likelihood of violence.

Something which I took special notice is that while watching the riot at the Capitol on television, Trump ignored requests to call off the crowd for 187 minutes.

Additionally, despite being advised otherwise, Trump expressed a desire to lead the march to the Capitol himself, which would have put him in the center of the unfolding confrontation.

In the days prior, the Justice Department's National Security Division reported plans by supporters to "occupy federal buildings," and the FBI received reports of armed "quick reaction forces" planning to operate in Virginia near the District of Columbia.

In my opinion, I agree with the critics, legal experts and other entities, who consider his speech Donald to have encouraged violence due to its combative rhetoric, the framing of the election as an existential threat, and the context in which it was delivered.

Examples of his aggressive and combative rhetoric include his recurring use of "fight" as a directive, in addition to such expressions as "Fight like hell": Trump used the word "fight" or "fighting" approximately 20 times during the speech. The most frequently cited quote is: "We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore".

Repeatedly he told the crowd, "You'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong". He also singled out specific figures, such as Vice President Mike Pence and "weak" Republicans, as obstacles that needed to be overcome to "save" the country.

Oldbear, I thought it interesting that professional threat analysts and I had the same opinion, in that the speech established a "warrant for violence" by portraying the certification of the election as a moral and national catastrophe.

Additionally, he added the ingredient of establishing a moral Imperative by labeling the election a "theft" and "outrageous affront to our democracy," he framed the subsequent march as a necessary act of patriotism to stop "bad people" from destroying the "glorious Republic".

I think it is also important that the speech was presented in such a way as to assist in the removal of certain inhibitions. Psychological experts indicate that by characterizing political opponents as "evil" or "radical-left lunatics," the speech removed normative impediments to extreme action, making violence seem like a virtuous defense of the group.

AS it relates to the context and intent, the speech is rarely viewed in isolation; its impact is often tied to the specific circumstances of that day. In addition to the reported awareness of armed protesters, Trump was informed that some members of the crowd were armed but still directed them to march to the Capitol.

In my opinion, although Trump did use the phrase "peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard," this was the only instance of a call for nonviolence in an 11,000-word speech dominated by aggressive imagery.

I have yet to hear any type of reasonable explanation as to how Trump watched the violence on television for hours without ordering his supporters to leave, including at least someone getting killed and many hurt, which I interpret as evidence of his intent to use the mob's pressure to obstruct the certification.
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In reply to boognish_bear • 8:32p, 4/21/26
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Took it over? What is he smoking?
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In reply to Assassin • 8:37p, 4/21/26
Assassin said:
Oldbear83 said:
ATL Bear said:
Oldbear83 said:
ATL Bear said:
boognish_bear said:

It was 3% or less six months prior to the election with a peak of 3.5% for the whole of 2024.

What Trump should have said was that 3% was on top of Biden's cost hikes before 2024.

Biden inflation was mostly post COVID supply chain scarcity, money supply explosion, and his stupid energy policies.

I'd suggest that a few of Trump's policies are stupid.

Just about all of Biden's policies were stupid, crooked, or both.

Btw, I hear Kamala plans to run for POTUS in 2028.

Has anyone run for POTUS before twice and been utterly defeated? She might be able to achieve that, if she puts her nose to the grindstone


Henry Clay ran 3 times and was defeated badly all 3 times.

William Jennings Bryan also ran and lost 3 times.

Adlai Stevenson lost twice.

And those are just the 3 I could think of. I'm sure there are a few more.

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In reply to cowboycwr • 8:39p, 4/21/26
cowboycwr said:
Assassin said:
Oldbear83 said:
ATL Bear said:
Oldbear83 said:
ATL Bear said:
boognish_bear said:

It was 3% or less six months prior to the election with a peak of 3.5% for the whole of 2024.

What Trump should have said was that 3% was on top of Biden's cost hikes before 2024.

Biden inflation was mostly post COVID supply chain scarcity, money supply explosion, and his stupid energy policies.

I'd suggest that a few of Trump's policies are stupid.

Just about all of Biden's policies were stupid, crooked, or both.

Btw, I hear Kamala plans to run for POTUS in 2028.

Has anyone run for POTUS before twice and been utterly defeated? She might be able to achieve that, if she puts her nose to the grindstone


Henry Clay ran 3 times and was defeated badly all 3 times.

William Jennings Bryan also ran and lost 3 times.

Adlai Stevenson lost twice.

And those are just the 3 I could think of. I'm sure there are a few more.


Stevenson was the one I was trying to remember, thanks
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In reply to Assassin • 9:11p, 4/21/26
Assassin said:
cowboycwr said:
Assassin said:
Oldbear83 said:
ATL Bear said:
Oldbear83 said:
ATL Bear said:
boognish_bear said:

It was 3% or less six months prior to the election with a peak of 3.5% for the whole of 2024.

What Trump should have said was that 3% was on top of Biden's cost hikes before 2024.

Biden inflation was mostly post COVID supply chain scarcity, money supply explosion, and his stupid energy policies.

I'd suggest that a few of Trump's policies are stupid.

Just about all of Biden's policies were stupid, crooked, or both.

Btw, I hear Kamala plans to run for POTUS in 2028.

Has anyone run for POTUS before twice and been utterly defeated? She might be able to achieve that, if she puts her nose to the grindstone


Henry Clay ran 3 times and was defeated badly all 3 times.

William Jennings Bryan also ran and lost 3 times.

Adlai Stevenson lost twice.

And those are just the 3 I could think of. I'm sure there are a few more.


Stevenson was the one I was trying to remember, thanks


Wendell Wilkie, also, though it was during wartime.
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In reply to Oldbear83 • 9:26p, 4/21/26
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ATL Bear said:
boognish_bear said:

It was 3% or less six months prior to the election with a peak of 3.5% for the whole of 2024.

What Trump should have said was that 3% was on top of Biden's cost hikes before 2024.

You think he should have tried to tell the truth too?
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In reply to Assassin • 10:09p, 4/21/26
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About 49% of the state will lose their voice. Disgusting.
Sic 'em Bears and Go Birds
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In reply to BigGameBaylorBear • 10:31p, 4/21/26
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Assassin said:


About 49% of the state will lose their voice. Disgusting.

They have the bucks. Same thing happened with the VA Gov race. Very winnable. Kinda like they are conceding the house but want to hold the Senate
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