Hello again, BUDOS. Thanks for your post, which I now will address:
BUDOS:
"Now, speaking of semantics, please explain to me how I am so damn intellectually dishonest if I did not know about the sources you present?"The chief problem in many issues regarding Trump, is the polarization of opinion and expressed emotion. It's obvious that many people have strong hatred against the President, and this colors how they think and speak, including posts here. I certainly understand people have the right to their opinion, but in many posts here these people treat their assumptions as established fact.
That is the problem with much of the J6 events. Many who hate Trump assume without evidence that he deliberately encouraged violence and criminal behavior.
There is no proof that this happened, and definitely evidence exists that demonstrates the opposite. A key piece is the claim that Trump offered to send National Guard troops.
People who hate Trump often believe Pelosi's denial that the offer happened, and ignore anything else. Those more objective look at the people making statements, and consider whether the statement is biased on its face or could be objective.
That the Capitol police chief at that time says the offer was made and he forwarded the request is strong evidence, as this man neither worked for Trump personally nor had anything to gain by confirming the matter. Everyone claiming the offer was not made had an interest in denying the offer.
I am disappointed in you here, BUDOS, because I would expect you to do more than a cursory look at the claims, and to observe the apparent motives to avoid bias.
BUDOS:
"Yes, as I was watching this all day on different live TV stations, heard Trump did ask his supporters to march "peacefully and patriotically" during his speech on January 6, 2021.
In researching your above comment, whether this was "often deleted" by mainstream media is a matter of significant debate, especially since some recent findings indicate specific editing by major broadcasters which add credibility to your claim."Thank you. I want to be clear that I dislike Trump's style of debate on this day, and especially believe that he did not think through what might happen. But poor judgment does not rise to criminal conduct in this case, and frankly a lot of people exercised poor judgement regarding that day, including many who attack Trump and ignore everything else.
BUDOS:
"I compare his "peacefully" remark as a secondary detail compared to his broader rhetoric"There is that bias I was concerned about.
BUDOS:
"Something which I took special notice is that while watching the riot at the Capitol on television, Trump ignored requests to call off the crowd for 187 minutes."I have seen that claim before. Usually from people unaware that those who rioted started while Trump was still making his speech.
Timeline reveals Capitol Hill riot began 20 mins before end of Trump's speech | The Post Millennial | thepostmillennial.comEven CNN, whose version of events was painted in a tone meant to attack Trump, concedes this.
The January 6 insurrection: Minute-by-minute | CNN PoliticsThis timeline matters, because no one seriously believes that President Trump finished his speech then immediately started watching TV about a riot he knew nothing about. Especially because as President, Trump already had other scheduled meetings and tasks that day.
The
reasonable perspective would be that Trump made his speech, took care of various matters, became aware of the riots and then asked people to go home.
The thing is, treating Trump as a reasonable person does not fit the image his enemies want to have used. It's why the J6 committee destroyed so much of the evidence they had - they only wanted the narrative known, not the facts.
I certainly understand that someone committed to hate will refuse to grant that President Trump was guilty only of anger and a belief that he was the victim of a stolen election (
not going into that here - it's a different topic). But anyone claiming to be an objective judge should recognize that Trump's enemies were far from honest themselves, and many claims made against Trump amounted to nothing more than smear attempts which conveniently ignores their own shameful behavior.