Trump's first 100 days

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Cue Karen Carpenter singing 'We've only just begunnnnnnnnnnnnn"
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I ain't quite as dumb as I seem
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boognish_bear said:



US National Debt

2011: $14.79T
2012: $16.06T
2013: $16.73T
2014: $17.82T
2015: $18.15T
2016: $19.57T
2017: $20.24T
2018: $21.51T
2019: $22.71T
2020: $26.94T
2021: $28.43T
2022: $30.93T
2023: $33.17T
2024: $35.46T
2025: $37.64T
2026: $39.50T (currently)

That's an increase of 167% since 2011

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boognish_bear said:



US National Debt

2011: $14.79T
2012: $16.06T
2013: $16.73T
2014: $17.82T
2015: $18.15T
2016: $19.57T
2017: $20.24T
2018: $21.51T
2019: $22.71T
2020: $26.94T
2021: $28.43T
2022: $30.93T
2023: $33.17T
2024: $35.46T
2025: $37.64T
2026: $39.50T (currently)

That's an increase of 167% since 2011


How dare Trump increase the debt for all those years!!!!


The truth is both parties talk about the debt and act like they will do something about it but never do.
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boognish_bear said:





Maher is one of the few Leftists who is willing to be honest.
Fetterman is the only one in the Senate.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
historian
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And nobody is doing anything about it. The national debt just keeps growing at an insane pace:

https://www.usdebtclock.org/
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Psalm 119:36
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cowboycwr said:

boognish_bear said:



US National Debt

2011: $14.79T
2012: $16.06T
2013: $16.73T
2014: $17.82T
2015: $18.15T
2016: $19.57T
2017: $20.24T
2018: $21.51T
2019: $22.71T
2020: $26.94T
2021: $28.43T
2022: $30.93T
2023: $33.17T
2024: $35.46T
2025: $37.64T
2026: $39.50T (currently)

That's an increase of 167% since 2011


How dare Trump increase the debt for all those years!!!!


The truth is both parties talk about the debt and act like they will do something about it but never do.

..... with all the fraud being uncovered - I would guess at least HALF the run up in National Debt since Grab Ass left office has been looted - so $17B poofed adiosed sayonarayed...........

- UF
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historian
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Maybe more. I genuinely believe most new govt programs over the past 50+ years were created to facilitate fraud. Whatever they were designed to do was secondary to helping Dems steal from taxpayers. The Dem party are the largest criminal organization in history, and the most lucrative. The mafia are rank amateurs in comparison.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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historian said:

Maybe more. I genuinely believe most new govt programs over the past 50+ years were created to facilitate fraud. Whatever they were designed to do was secondary to helping Dems steal from taxpayers. The Dem party are the largest criminal organization in history, and the most lucrative. The mafia are rank amateurs in comparison.


Don't leave out the Republicans
Sic 'em Bears and Go Birds
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cowboycwr said:

boognish_bear said:



US National Debt

2011: $14.79T
2012: $16.06T
2013: $16.73T
2014: $17.82T
2015: $18.15T
2016: $19.57T
2017: $20.24T
2018: $21.51T
2019: $22.71T
2020: $26.94T
2021: $28.43T
2022: $30.93T
2023: $33.17T
2024: $35.46T
2025: $37.64T
2026: $39.50T (currently)

That's an increase of 167% since 2011


How dare Trump increase the debt from 2016 - 2020!!!




Fixed it for you. About $7 trillion in his first term. Will be even more in his second term.
Call it a tax, the people are outraged! Call it a tariff, the people get out their checkbooks and wave their American flags!!!
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BigGameBaylorBear said:

historian said:

Maybe more. I genuinely believe most new govt programs over the past 50+ years were created to facilitate fraud. Whatever they were designed to do was secondary to helping Dems steal from taxpayers. The Dem party are the largest criminal organization in history, and the most lucrative. The mafia are rank amateurs in comparison.


Don't leave out the Republicans

true - ample idiocy and zero discipline on BOTH sides........

- UF
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historian said:

boognish_bear said:





Maher is one of the few Leftists who is willing to be honest.
Fetterman is the only one in the Senate.

True dat. He may be more Republican than some RINOs
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historian
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No doubt the GOP has their fair share of crooks too. But I've never seen any reason to believe their graft is nearly as extensive and widespread. Either way, the corruption of Congress is an advertisement for term limits and the senators remind us dee Ashly that the 17th amendment was a huge mistake. It needs to be repealed along with the 16th.

Personally, I think every federal bureaucracy needs to be audited. Then audit every employee starting with each member of Congress, past and present. Same for all the upper echelons of every agency. I expect massive amounts of fraud would be uncovered and many of them would earn long prison terms.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cowboycwr said:

boognish_bear said:



US National Debt

2011: $14.79T
2012: $16.06T
2013: $16.73T
2014: $17.82T
2015: $18.15T
2016: $19.57T
2017: $20.24T
2018: $21.51T
2019: $22.71T
2020: $26.94T
2021: $28.43T
2022: $30.93T
2023: $33.17T
2024: $35.46T
2025: $37.64T
2026: $39.50T (currently)

That's an increase of 167% since 2011


How dare Trump increase the debt from 2016 - 2020!!!




Fixed it for you. About $7 trillion in his first term. Will be even more in his second term.


Sorry but you can't complain about the debt of just one president and leave out the increases from the others.
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cowboycwr said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cowboycwr said:

boognish_bear said:



US National Debt

2011: $14.79T
2012: $16.06T
2013: $16.73T
2014: $17.82T
2015: $18.15T
2016: $19.57T
2017: $20.24T
2018: $21.51T
2019: $22.71T
2020: $26.94T
2021: $28.43T
2022: $30.93T
2023: $33.17T
2024: $35.46T
2025: $37.64T
2026: $39.50T (currently)

That's an increase of 167% since 2011


How dare Trump increase the debt from 2016 - 2020!!!




Fixed it for you. About $7 trillion in his first term. Will be even more in his second term.


Sorry but you can't complain about the debt of just one president and leave out the increases from the others.

Actually, I can complain about all of them. Just pointing out that Trump is no different than all of those that came before him.

Here is a fun fact. The last President to balance the budget was Democrat Bill Clinton.
Call it a tax, the people are outraged! Call it a tariff, the people get out their checkbooks and wave their American flags!!!
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historian said:

No doubt the GOP has their fair share of crooks too. But I've never seen any reason to believe their graft is nearly as extensive and widespread. Either way, the corruption of Congress is an advertisement for term limits and the senators remind us dee Ashly that the 17th amendment was a huge mistake. It needs to be repealed along with the 16th.

Personally, I think every federal bureaucracy needs to be audited. Then audit every employee starting with each member of Congress, past and present. Same for all the upper echelons of every agency. I expect massive amounts of fraud would be uncovered and many of them would earn long prison terms.

We need a group made up of young folk that have nothing else to do but look for fraud in government agencies. These people need big balls. Why won't someone come up with a group like that?
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cowboycwr said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cowboycwr said:

boognish_bear said:



US National Debt

2011: $14.79T
2012: $16.06T
2013: $16.73T
2014: $17.82T
2015: $18.15T
2016: $19.57T
2017: $20.24T
2018: $21.51T
2019: $22.71T
2020: $26.94T
2021: $28.43T
2022: $30.93T
2023: $33.17T
2024: $35.46T
2025: $37.64T
2026: $39.50T (currently)

That's an increase of 167% since 2011


How dare Trump increase the debt from 2016 - 2020!!!




Fixed it for you. About $7 trillion in his first term. Will be even more in his second term.


Sorry but you can't complain about the debt of just one president and leave out the increases from the others.

Actually, I can complain about all of them. Just pointing out that Trump is no different than all of those that came before him.

Here is a fun fact. The last President to balance the budget was Democrat Bill Clinton.

Well, Clinton did not really balance ***** The Congress sent him a good budget, he signed it and bragged after that.

That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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Assassin said:

historian said:

No doubt the GOP has their fair share of crooks too. But I've never seen any reason to believe their graft is nearly as extensive and widespread. Either way, the corruption of Congress is an advertisement for term limits and the senators remind us dee Ashly that the 17th amendment was a huge mistake. It needs to be repealed along with the 16th.

Personally, I think every federal bureaucracy needs to be audited. Then audit every employee starting with each member of Congress, past and present. Same for all the upper echelons of every agency. I expect massive amounts of fraud would be uncovered and many of them would earn long prison terms.

We need a group made up of young folk that have nothing else to do but look for fraud in government agencies. These people need big balls. Why won't someone come up with a group like that?

I believe there was a group like this proposed and even shortly convened without necessary power or approval to exist for more than a statutorily limited time and no clear guidelines as to what was to be examined or cut. If I recall they made a lot of headlines for a while with outrageous claims of abuse and fraud, many of which fell apart upon further scrutiny.

They made a few changes but overall did not save the federal government any material amounts and it is unclear whether their recommendations or actions carry any actual weight or legality.

Almost like there needs to be an actual act of congress to corral the budget. Somehow we keep coming back to congress needs to do their jobs and people who want changes need to stop sending the same 95% back every 2 years.
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boognish_bear said:




Not a poor reason to celebrate. Not really a big deal. Now if he's putting money on Kalshi bets…
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Oldbear83 said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cowboycwr said:

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

cowboycwr said:

boognish_bear said:



US National Debt

2011: $14.79T
2012: $16.06T
2013: $16.73T
2014: $17.82T
2015: $18.15T
2016: $19.57T
2017: $20.24T
2018: $21.51T
2019: $22.71T
2020: $26.94T
2021: $28.43T
2022: $30.93T
2023: $33.17T
2024: $35.46T
2025: $37.64T
2026: $39.50T (currently)

That's an increase of 167% since 2011


How dare Trump increase the debt from 2016 - 2020!!!




Fixed it for you. About $7 trillion in his first term. Will be even more in his second term.


Sorry but you can't complain about the debt of just one president and leave out the increases from the others.

Actually, I can complain about all of them. Just pointing out that Trump is no different than all of those that came before him.

Here is a fun fact. The last President to balance the budget was Democrat Bill Clinton.

Well, Clinton did not really balance ***** The Congress sent him a good budget, he signed it and bragged after that.




Last major example of both parties working together-ish on cutting the deficit. Waaay too long ago.
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303Bear said:

Assassin said:

historian said:

No doubt the GOP has their fair share of crooks too. But I've never seen any reason to believe their graft is nearly as extensive and widespread. Either way, the corruption of Congress is an advertisement for term limits and the senators remind us dee Ashly that the 17th amendment was a huge mistake. It needs to be repealed along with the 16th.

Personally, I think every federal bureaucracy needs to be audited. Then audit every employee starting with each member of Congress, past and present. Same for all the upper echelons of every agency. I expect massive amounts of fraud would be uncovered and many of them would earn long prison terms.

We need a group made up of young folk that have nothing else to do but look for fraud in government agencies. These people need big balls. Why won't someone come up with a group like that?


Almost like there needs to be an actual act of congress to corral the budget. Somehow we keep coming back to congress needs to do their jobs and people who want changes need to stop sending the same 95% back every 2 years.


Most important thing for voters to gain power back to themselves.
Will take a LOT of effort to get past the PR gatekeepers to make that issue prominent in everyone's mind.

Still don't know why a candidate's political ads should be viewed as anything more than garbage.
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EatMoreSalmon said:

303Bear said:

Assassin said:

historian said:

No doubt the GOP has their fair share of crooks too. But I've never seen any reason to believe their graft is nearly as extensive and widespread. Either way, the corruption of Congress is an advertisement for term limits and the senators remind us dee Ashly that the 17th amendment was a huge mistake. It needs to be repealed along with the 16th.

Personally, I think every federal bureaucracy needs to be audited. Then audit every employee starting with each member of Congress, past and present. Same for all the upper echelons of every agency. I expect massive amounts of fraud would be uncovered and many of them would earn long prison terms.

We need a group made up of young folk that have nothing else to do but look for fraud in government agencies. These people need big balls. Why won't someone come up with a group like that?


Almost like there needs to be an actual act of congress to corral the budget. Somehow we keep coming back to congress needs to do their jobs and people who want changes need to stop sending the same 95% back every 2 years.


Most important thing for voters to gain power back to themselves.
Will take a LOT of effort to get past the PR gatekeepers to make that issue prominent in everyone's mind.

Still don't know why a candidate's political ads should be viewed as anything more than garbage.


I largely blame campaign finance laws. Modern campaign spending can be tied directly back to the first campaign finance laws in the 60s and 70s. Not that there wasn't plenty of questionable dark money involved, but the shameless appeals and outright pandering largely tie back to those laws that made asking for money non-taboo because it was "legal" and led directly to the current PAC and finance structure we see today.
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303Bear said:

EatMoreSalmon said:

303Bear said:

Assassin said:

historian said:

No doubt the GOP has their fair share of crooks too. But I've never seen any reason to believe their graft is nearly as extensive and widespread. Either way, the corruption of Congress is an advertisement for term limits and the senators remind us dee Ashly that the 17th amendment was a huge mistake. It needs to be repealed along with the 16th.

Personally, I think every federal bureaucracy needs to be audited. Then audit every employee starting with each member of Congress, past and present. Same for all the upper echelons of every agency. I expect massive amounts of fraud would be uncovered and many of them would earn long prison terms.

We need a group made up of young folk that have nothing else to do but look for fraud in government agencies. These people need big balls. Why won't someone come up with a group like that?


Almost like there needs to be an actual act of congress to corral the budget. Somehow we keep coming back to congress needs to do their jobs and people who want changes need to stop sending the same 95% back every 2 years.


Most important thing for voters to gain power back to themselves.
Will take a LOT of effort to get past the PR gatekeepers to make that issue prominent in everyone's mind.

Still don't know why a candidate's political ads should be viewed as anything more than garbage.


I largely blame campaign finance laws. Modern campaign spending can be tied directly back to the first campaign finance laws in the 60s and 70s. Not that there wasn't plenty of questionable dark money involved, but the shameless appeals and outright pandering largely tie back to those laws that made asking for money non-taboo because it was "legal" and led directly to the current PAC and finance structure we see today.


If ads were ignored and voters turned to public records to see who the candidates are for elections, a lot of that spending would be worthless.

In addition and almost impossible to address - if news outlets did their job, then non-profit research and public records would not have to be found by every citizen to discover what candidates' records and backgrounds were.
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So how does this work now in light of the recent Supreme Court ruling on the tariffs?

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DL would not be good enough????
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Assassin said:

historian said:

No doubt the GOP has their fair share of crooks too. But I've never seen any reason to believe their graft is nearly as extensive and widespread. Either way, the corruption of Congress is an advertisement for term limits and the senators remind us dee Ashly that the 17th amendment was a huge mistake. It needs to be repealed along with the 16th.

Personally, I think every federal bureaucracy needs to be audited. Then audit every employee starting with each member of Congress, past and present. Same for all the upper echelons of every agency. I expect massive amounts of fraud would be uncovered and many of them would earn long prison terms.

We need a group made up of young folk that have nothing else to do but look for fraud in government agencies. These people need big balls. Why won't someone come up with a group like that?

Excellent idea. And make it permanent. No doubt the commies & fascists will always be trying to find ways to lie, cheat & steal. That's all they know how to do.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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