JD Vance correctly blames Merrick Garland for the unfair process and double standards in the J6 persecutions. pic.twitter.com/d38vSpVWMx

— Insurrection Barbie (@DefiyantlyFree) January 26, 2025

Redbrickbear said:

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[the testimony of Michael Shane Daughtry, who was arrested for being present at the January 6 attack. It is pure police state stuff. (If you don't want to go to X to read it, check it out here in one place via ThreadReader). If true in its details, then the feds' reaction to J6, at least in his case, is a greater source of concern than the attack itself. The key thing to look at here is that for the first time I can think of, many people on the Right have lost faith in the police and the judiciary. As a London man told me over the weekend (see below), the rape-gang scandal in Britain has caused many British people, for the first time in memory, to lose confidence in the justice system that is, in the police and the judiciary.] -Rod Dreher

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[When I asked about my 6th Amendment right to a speedy trial, I was advised by Federal Court Judge Randolph D. Moss that the Sixth Amendment had been suspended due to Covid-19 and the large number of arrest made from the January 6th incident. The Sixth Amendment also gives me the right to a Fair Trial, does this mean I didn't have the right to a fair trail either? I'm not sure how a Federal Court Judge can legally suspend one of the Bill of Rights.
In June 2022, I was told by prosecutors that I could plea guilty to Trespassing on the Grass or face going to court in Washington DC on several other (made up) felony charges that they knew I had not committed. So because I had no chance of a fair trail and facing several false charges, I was forced to plead guilty to Trespassing on the Restricted West Lawn. My plea agreement stated the maximum amount of probation I could receive would be one year but for this non violent misdemeanor crime, I was sentenced to:

1: Two additional months of House Arrest with Location Monitoring for a total of 18 months.

2: Three additional years of Supervised Federal Probation with travel restrictions for a total of 4 years and 8 months of Supervised Federal Probation even though the plea agreement I had signed stated a maximum of 1 year probation.

3: Firearm Confiscation and Restrictions in clear violation of my 2nd amendment rights.

4: Mandatory random drug testing even though I have no drug history. I have passed all these tests.

5: Mandatory mental health evaluation, even though I have no mental health history. I passed this test.

6: $525.00 in restitution for damage to the Capital Building even though I never entered or even touched the Capital Building. I paid this fine.

7: 60 hours of community service. I completed all the community service.

After my sentencing, my home was again searched by a Federal Probation Agent who searched backpacks, closed closets, closed drawers, including my girlfriends underwear drawers even though they had a court order advising that Probation Agents could only take illegal items that are "In Plain Sight".

My home has now been searched 7 times in 4 years. It's been searched by the FBI, the Federal Marshalls, the DOJ, and Federal Probation several times.

Everyone always come wearing SWAT vests and heavily armed even though the only crime I've ever been accused of is illegally walking on the grass....]

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jbbear said:

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KaiBear said:

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J D Vance isn't particularly brilliant.

However he is articulate and forceful in his support of Trumps policies.

A major upgrade from Mike Pence.

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I bet he's smarter than you.

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Redbrickbear said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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[the testimony of Michael Shane Daughtry, who was arrested for being present at the January 6 attack. It is pure police state stuff. (If you don't want to go to X to read it, check it out here in one place via ThreadReader). If true in its details, then the feds' reaction to J6, at least in his case, is a greater source of concern than the attack itself. The key thing to look at here is that for the first time I can think of, many people on the Right have lost faith in the police and the judiciary. As a London man told me over the weekend (see below), the rape-gang scandal in Britain has caused many British people, for the first time in memory, to lose confidence in the justice system that is, in the police and the judiciary.] -Rod Dreher

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[When I asked about my 6th Amendment right to a speedy trial, I was advised by Federal Court Judge Randolph D. Moss that the Sixth Amendment had been suspended due to Covid-19 and the large number of arrest made from the January 6th incident. The Sixth Amendment also gives me the right to a Fair Trial, does this mean I didn't have the right to a fair trail either? I'm not sure how a Federal Court Judge can legally suspend one of the Bill of Rights.
In June 2022, I was told by prosecutors that I could plea guilty to Trespassing on the Grass or face going to court in Washington DC on several other (made up) felony charges that they knew I had not committed. So because I had no chance of a fair trail and facing several false charges, I was forced to plead guilty to Trespassing on the Restricted West Lawn. My plea agreement stated the maximum amount of probation I could receive would be one year but for this non violent misdemeanor crime, I was sentenced to:

1: Two additional months of House Arrest with Location Monitoring for a total of 18 months.

2: Three additional years of Supervised Federal Probation with travel restrictions for a total of 4 years and 8 months of Supervised Federal Probation even though the plea agreement I had signed stated a maximum of 1 year probation.

3: Firearm Confiscation and Restrictions in clear violation of my 2nd amendment rights.

4: Mandatory random drug testing even though I have no drug history. I have passed all these tests.

5: Mandatory mental health evaluation, even though I have no mental health history. I passed this test.

6: $525.00 in restitution for damage to the Capital Building even though I never entered or even touched the Capital Building. I paid this fine.

7: 60 hours of community service. I completed all the community service.

After my sentencing, my home was again searched by a Federal Probation Agent who searched backpacks, closed closets, closed drawers, including my girlfriends underwear drawers even though they had a court order advising that Probation Agents could only take illegal items that are "In Plain Sight".

My home has now been searched 7 times in 4 years. It's been searched by the FBI, the Federal Marshalls, the DOJ, and Federal Probation several times.

Everyone always come wearing SWAT vests and heavily armed even though the only crime I've ever been accused of is illegally walking on the grass....]

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A large number of J6-ers were treated unfairly.

He's not one of them. He's flat lying in this story. He did a lot more than stand in grass. He was part of one of the first groups to storm but backed off when hit with rubber bullets. His own social media posts were his worst enemy. The judge treated him very well, even took into consideration his difficult upbringing. And prosecutors did not renege on the plea deal.

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So he never entered the Capitol and never assaulted any cops

(And he has ZERO criminal history and was a police officer)

They also let him plead to a low level offense

Why does that make all the other things they did to him right?

Read the list....its amazing and sickening

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Redbrickbear said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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[the testimony of Michael Shane Daughtry, who was arrested for being present at the January 6 attack. It is pure police state stuff. (If you don't want to go to X to read it, check it out here in one place via ThreadReader). If true in its details, then the feds' reaction to J6, at least in his case, is a greater source of concern than the attack itself. The key thing to look at here is that for the first time I can think of, many people on the Right have lost faith in the police and the judiciary. As a London man told me over the weekend (see below), the rape-gang scandal in Britain has caused many British people, for the first time in memory, to lose confidence in the justice system that is, in the police and the judiciary.] -Rod Dreher

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[When I asked about my 6th Amendment right to a speedy trial, I was advised by Federal Court Judge Randolph D. Moss that the Sixth Amendment had been suspended due to Covid-19 and the large number of arrest made from the January 6th incident. The Sixth Amendment also gives me the right to a Fair Trial, does this mean I didn't have the right to a fair trail either? I'm not sure how a Federal Court Judge can legally suspend one of the Bill of Rights.
In June 2022, I was told by prosecutors that I could plea guilty to Trespassing on the Grass or face going to court in Washington DC on several other (made up) felony charges that they knew I had not committed. So because I had no chance of a fair trail and facing several false charges, I was forced to plead guilty to Trespassing on the Restricted West Lawn. My plea agreement stated the maximum amount of probation I could receive would be one year but for this non violent misdemeanor crime, I was sentenced to:

1: Two additional months of House Arrest with Location Monitoring for a total of 18 months.

2: Three additional years of Supervised Federal Probation with travel restrictions for a total of 4 years and 8 months of Supervised Federal Probation even though the plea agreement I had signed stated a maximum of 1 year probation.

3: Firearm Confiscation and Restrictions in clear violation of my 2nd amendment rights.

4: Mandatory random drug testing even though I have no drug history. I have passed all these tests.

5: Mandatory mental health evaluation, even though I have no mental health history. I passed this test.

6: $525.00 in restitution for damage to the Capital Building even though I never entered or even touched the Capital Building. I paid this fine.

7: 60 hours of community service. I completed all the community service.

After my sentencing, my home was again searched by a Federal Probation Agent who searched backpacks, closed closets, closed drawers, including my girlfriends underwear drawers even though they had a court order advising that Probation Agents could only take illegal items that are "In Plain Sight".

My home has now been searched 7 times in 4 years. It's been searched by the FBI, the Federal Marshalls, the DOJ, and Federal Probation several times.

Everyone always come wearing SWAT vests and heavily armed even though the only crime I've ever been accused of is illegally walking on the grass....]

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A large number of J6-ers were treated unfairly.

He's not one of them. He's flat lying in this story. He did a lot more than stand in grass. He was part of one of the first groups to storm but backed off when hit with rubber bullets. His own social media posts were his worst enemy. The judge treated him very well, even took into consideration his difficult upbringing. And prosecutors did not renege on the plea deal.

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So he never entered the Capitol and never assaulted any cops

(And he has ZERO criminal history and was a police officer)

They also let him plead to a low level offense

Why does that make all the other things they did to him right?

Read the list....its amazing and sickening

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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sombear said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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[the testimony of Michael Shane Daughtry, who was arrested for being present at the January 6 attack. It is pure police state stuff. (If you don't want to go to X to read it, check it out here in one place via ThreadReader). If true in its details, then the feds' reaction to J6, at least in his case, is a greater source of concern than the attack itself. The key thing to look at here is that for the first time I can think of, many people on the Right have lost faith in the police and the judiciary. As a London man told me over the weekend (see below), the rape-gang scandal in Britain has caused many British people, for the first time in memory, to lose confidence in the justice system that is, in the police and the judiciary.] -Rod Dreher

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[When I asked about my 6th Amendment right to a speedy trial, I was advised by Federal Court Judge Randolph D. Moss that the Sixth Amendment had been suspended due to Covid-19 and the large number of arrest made from the January 6th incident. The Sixth Amendment also gives me the right to a Fair Trial, does this mean I didn't have the right to a fair trail either? I'm not sure how a Federal Court Judge can legally suspend one of the Bill of Rights.
In June 2022, I was told by prosecutors that I could plea guilty to Trespassing on the Grass or face going to court in Washington DC on several other (made up) felony charges that they knew I had not committed. So because I had no chance of a fair trail and facing several false charges, I was forced to plead guilty to Trespassing on the Restricted West Lawn. My plea agreement stated the maximum amount of probation I could receive would be one year but for this non violent misdemeanor crime, I was sentenced to:

1: Two additional months of House Arrest with Location Monitoring for a total of 18 months.

2: Three additional years of Supervised Federal Probation with travel restrictions for a total of 4 years and 8 months of Supervised Federal Probation even though the plea agreement I had signed stated a maximum of 1 year probation.

3: Firearm Confiscation and Restrictions in clear violation of my 2nd amendment rights.

4: Mandatory random drug testing even though I have no drug history. I have passed all these tests.

5: Mandatory mental health evaluation, even though I have no mental health history. I passed this test.

6: $525.00 in restitution for damage to the Capital Building even though I never entered or even touched the Capital Building. I paid this fine.

7: 60 hours of community service. I completed all the community service.

After my sentencing, my home was again searched by a Federal Probation Agent who searched backpacks, closed closets, closed drawers, including my girlfriends underwear drawers even though they had a court order advising that Probation Agents could only take illegal items that are "In Plain Sight".

My home has now been searched 7 times in 4 years. It's been searched by the FBI, the Federal Marshalls, the DOJ, and Federal Probation several times.

Everyone always come wearing SWAT vests and heavily armed even though the only crime I've ever been accused of is illegally walking on the grass....]

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A large number of J6-ers were treated unfairly.

He's not one of them. He's flat lying in this story. He did a lot more than stand in grass. He was part of one of the first groups to storm but backed off when hit with rubber bullets. His own social media posts were his worst enemy. The judge treated him very well, even took into consideration his difficult upbringing. And prosecutors did not renege on the plea deal.

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So he never entered the Capitol and never assaulted any cops

(And he has ZERO criminal history and was a police officer)

They also let him plead to a low level offense

Why does that make all the other things they did to him right?

Read the list....its amazing and sickening

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He could have spent a year in jail and paid 100k, among other things.

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Porteroso said:

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Unfortunately, any miscarriage of justice will get overlooked by many because the violent rioters were also pardoned.

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Porteroso said:

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Unfortunately, any miscarriage of justice will get overlooked by many because the violent rioters were also pardoned.

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This is true.

Had Trump decided to pause the "clemency" for any violent ones and have his attorney general review each one, then it'd have been a better approach. Could easily have reduced sentences and house arrests etc. The AG could easily have made the case that similar minor "violent" infractions typically resulted in 3 to 5 years (I'm making numbers up for discussion) or at least given examples of similar protestors let off easy.

Really wish he had approached it differently because the optics are bad and clouds the message as you've said. I think of all the protestors' "violent" actions combined that what the government did is worse, killing a lady just to kill her.

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Porteroso said:

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Unfortunately, any miscarriage of justice will get overlooked by many because the violent rioters were also pardoned.

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This is true.

Had Trump decided to pause the "clemency" for any violent ones and have his attorney general review each one, then it'd have been a better approach. Could easily have reduced sentences and house arrests etc. The AG could easily have made the case that similar minor "violent" infractions typically resulted in 3 to 5 years (I'm making numbers up for discussion) or at least given examples of similar protestors let off easy.

Really wish he had approached it differently because the optics are bad and clouds the message as you've said. I think of all the protestors' "violent" actions combined that what the government did is worse, killing a lady just to kill her.

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Agreed.

I have not really read up on much of the details ... how many truly, legitimate violent protesters were there?

However, when the Democrats refused to prosecute the fascists of the burn loot murder and Pardon Joe pardoned child and cop killers, the butthurt over the "violent" January 6th protesters gets mostly an eyeroll from me.

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Porteroso said:

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Unfortunately, any miscarriage of justice will get overlooked by many because the violent rioters were also pardoned.

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Porteroso said:

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Unfortunately, any miscarriage of justice will get overlooked by many because the violent rioters were also pardoned.

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This is true.

Had Trump decided to pause the "clemency" for any violent ones and have his attorney general review each one, then it'd have been a better approach. Could easily have reduced sentences and house arrests etc. The AG could easily have made the case that similar minor "violent" infractions typically resulted in 3 to 5 years (I'm making numbers up for discussion) or at least given examples of similar protestors let off easy.

Really wish he had approached it differently because the optics are bad and clouds the message as you've said. I think of all the protestors' "violent" actions combined that what the government did is worse, killing a lady just to kill her.

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Agreed.

I have not really read up on much of the details ... how many truly, legitimate violent protesters were there?

However, when the Democrats refused to prosecute the fascists of the burn loot murder and Pardon Joe pardoned child and cop killers, the butthurt over the "violent" January 6th protesters gets mostly an eyeroll from me.

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Yep, same here. Port's post is spot on from an "optics" perspective. Could have been handled better. Now his pardons don't look any better than Biden's to the casual thinker/voter.

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The optics are always going to be bad regardless of what happens ... remember, this is a Democrat noise machine that told us:

1. The Russia Hoax was real
2. Stacey Abrams was elected governor of Georgia
3. Hunter's laptop was false
4. Trump banned Muslims
5. Florida banned saying gay
6. The Covington kids attacked a peaceful Indian
7. Juicy Smalls was attacked by Trump supporters
8. Donald Trump raped some old broad

They live in an anti-intellectual, anti-fact echo chamber. The optics always will look bad - real or they'll make it up.

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Porteroso said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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Porteroso said:

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Unfortunately, any miscarriage of justice will get overlooked by many because the violent rioters were also pardoned.

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This is true.

Had Trump decided to pause the "clemency" for any violent ones and have his attorney general review each one, then it'd have been a better approach. Could easily have reduced sentences and house arrests etc. The AG could easily have made the case that similar minor "violent" infractions typically resulted in 3 to 5 years (I'm making numbers up for discussion) or at least given examples of similar protestors let off easy.

Really wish he had approached it differently because the optics are bad and clouds the message as you've said. I think of all the protestors' "violent" actions combined that what the government did is worse, killing a lady just to kill her.

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Agreed.

I have not really read up on much of the details ... how many truly, legitimate violent protesters were there?

However, when the Democrats refused to prosecute the fascists of the burn loot murder and Pardon Joe pardoned child and cop killers, the butthurt over the "violent" January 6th protesters gets mostly an eyeroll from me.

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Yep, same here. Port's post is spot on from an "optics" perspective. Could have been handled better. Now his pardons don't look any better than Biden's to the casual thinker/voter.

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The optics are always going to be bad regardless of what happens ... remember, this is a Democrat noise machine that told us:

1. The Russia Hoax was real
2. Stacey Abrams was elected governor of Georgia
3. Hunter's laptop was false
4. Trump banned Muslims
5. Florida banned saying gay
6. The Covington kids attacked a peaceful Indian
7. Juicy Smalls was attacked by Trump supporters
8. Donald Trump raped some old broad

They live in an anti-intellectual, anti-fact echo chamber. The optics always will look bad - real or they'll make it up.

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That is just not true. Several police unions have come out and condemned both Trump and Biden's pardons of people convicted of assaulting police officers. They have correctly called out the hypocrisy of claiming you are the party of the rule of law (both parties claim this now) and then pardoning people who assault cops.

It is one thing for a talking head to say a thing, but when the police are saying they are disappointed, a lot of conservatives will take note. Pardoning the violent insurrectionists, including the ones who represent an ongoing threat to democracy, like the guys who planned to bring guns, is a bad look. And it is clearly wrong, optics aside.

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A police officer's beating of Rosanne Boyland with a steel baton and a large wooden stick while she laid unconscious in a packed U.S. Capitol tunnel on Jan. 6, 2021 was "objectively reasonable," according to a D.C. Metropolitan Police Department (MPD) internal affairs investigation.


'Morris was hailed as a hero and traveled to the Super Bowl in Tampa as a guest of honor.'
Video footage reportedly taken after Boyland had fallen unconscious in the tunnel shows MPD Officer Lila Morris beating Boyland with a steel baton and what appeared to be a wooden walking stick.

Following the events of Jan. 6, Morris was hailed as a hero and traveled to the Super Bowl in Tampa as a guest of honor.

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"She was begging and pleading. She was trying to scream but she couldn't scream very loudly," Anderson said. "She gave up on it and that's when she reached out. She grabbed my hand. She's reaching out to grab something. When she felt my arm, she grabbed my hand. She didn't get to hold on for very long, though," said Anderson, who did not know Boyland.
Anderson said he believes Boyland knew her time was quickly running out: "She was holding my hand and then her grip completely loosens. I'm pretty sure that she's accepted at this point she's going to die. She knows it's the end."
Anderson said he would have met the same fate as Boyland if it were not for fellow protester Jake Lang. He was at the tunnel entrance, begging police to stop pushing people out of the tunnel onto the pile.

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For my book, Ashli: The Untold Story of the Women of January 6, I profiled 10 women, eight of whom survived the day. The police officers responsible for the arguably criminal deaths of Ashli Babbitt and Rosanne Boyland were both rewarded, one with a trip to the Super Bowl, the other with a bonus and promotion. They faced no discipline at all.

The men who tried to protect the J6 women paid a high price. Luke Coffee, who stood over the dying Rosanne Boyland with a crutch to protect her from the blows of policewoman Lila Morris, was found guilty of "assaulting, resisting, or impeding certain officers using a dangerous weapon" among other charges.

Victoria White endured what was arguably the most severe police beating of a female ever captured on video. Kyle Fitzsimmons tried to protect her and was sentenced to 87 months in prison for his efforts.

Of the eight surviving women that I profiled, seven went to prison, and all were punished more severely than Jason Charter {from a more violent protest, mentioned higher in the article}. Reviewing their cases closely, I could see that none of them had a chance. If the juries weren't problem enough, prosecutors routinely hid exculpatory evidence and exaggerated their offenses with impunity.

Only one of the eight women committed what a dispassionate observer would recognize as a crime. Rachel Powell, "a very granola, very crunchy" mother of eight with no criminal record, helped break a window. Powell was sentenced to 57 months in prison followed by 36 months of supervised release.

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