John Brennan email pushed Russian Disinformation

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In reply to Doc Holliday • 6:06p, 2/4/25
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Wangchung said:
Almost 4 and a half hours and none of our TDSers has dared say a word.
They'll eventually concede what happened and then try to say it was justified.
There are three inaccuracies, or at least possible inaccuracies, in the OP.

If anyone can spot them all, let's talk about whether the email was justified.
This email/letter was in 2020 and exposed in May of 2023. Since then the FBI has said there was no evidence of Russian involvement in the Hunter laptop.

This email wasn't justified and was an attempt to lie so that media would push a false narrative to help Joe Biden get elected.
You're circling around two of the inaccuracies:

1. The signers of the letter weren't making claims contrary to evidence, at least not at that time.

2. Nothing in the email suggests that they had a specific intent to mislead.

Take a swing at the last one?
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6:32p, 2/4/25
Trump learned an insane amount from his first term mistakes. Trump 2.0 will clean them all out. We are starting week 3 and he's done more than anyone could have imagined.

He has 206 weeks left to root out the rest.
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In reply to Sam Lowry • 6:43p, 2/4/25
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Wangchung said:
Almost 4 and a half hours and none of our TDSers has dared say a word.
They'll eventually concede what happened and then try to say it was justified.
There are three inaccuracies, or at least possible inaccuracies, in the OP.

If anyone can spot them all, let's talk about whether the email was justified.
This email/letter was in 2020 and exposed in May of 2023. Since then the FBI has said there was no evidence of Russian involvement in the Hunter laptop.

This email wasn't justified and was an attempt to lie so that media would push a false narrative to help Joe Biden get elected.
You're circling around two of the inaccuracies:

1. The signers of the letter weren't making claims contrary to evidence, at least not at that time.

2. Nothing in the email suggests that they had a specific intent to mislead.

Take a swing at the last one?
The FBI had the laptop. They knew it was real. They had people sign a letter they knew to be false in order to help Biden's campaign push back against Trump on the issue at the debate.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

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In reply to Wangchung • 6:45p, 2/4/25
Wangchung said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Wangchung said:
Almost 4 and a half hours and none of our TDSers has dared say a word.
They'll eventually concede what happened and then try to say it was justified.
There are three inaccuracies, or at least possible inaccuracies, in the OP.

If anyone can spot them all, let's talk about whether the email was justified.
This email/letter was in 2020 and exposed in May of 2023. Since then the FBI has said there was no evidence of Russian involvement in the Hunter laptop.

This email wasn't justified and was an attempt to lie so that media would push a false narrative to help Joe Biden get elected.
You're circling around two of the inaccuracies:

1. The signers of the letter weren't making claims contrary to evidence, at least not at that time.

2. Nothing in the email suggests that they had a specific intent to mislead.

Take a swing at the last one?
The FBI had the laptop. They knew it was real. They had people sign a letter the knew to be false in order to help Biden's campaign push back against Trump on the issue at the debate.


Step 1. Fire all 51.
Step 2. Charge all 51 with election interference and whatever else you can find.
Step 3. Lock them in the solitary cells that they put the J6ers in.
Step 4. Eat cake
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In reply to Married A Horn • 6:56p, 2/4/25
Married A Horn said:
Trump learned an insane amount from his first term mistakes. Trump 2.0 will clean them all out. We are starting week 3 and he's done more than anyone could have imagined.

He has 206 weeks left to root out the rest.
206 weeks if everything holds in the midterms. Realistically he has til then bc if we lose the house its over.
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In reply to Sam Lowry • 6:59p, 2/4/25
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Wangchung said:
Almost 4 and a half hours and none of our TDSers has dared say a word.
They'll eventually concede what happened and then try to say it was justified.
There are three inaccuracies, or at least possible inaccuracies, in the OP.

If anyone can spot them all, let's talk about whether the email was justified.
This email/letter was in 2020 and exposed in May of 2023. Since then the FBI has said there was no evidence of Russian involvement in the Hunter laptop.

This email wasn't justified and was an attempt to lie so that media would push a false narrative to help Joe Biden get elected.
You're circling around two of the inaccuracies:

1. The signers of the letter weren't making claims contrary to evidence, at least not at that time.

2. Nothing in the email suggests that they had a specific intent to mislead.
?


The FBI already knew it was a legit laptop and not Russian disinformation

And the 51 officials knew this would influence the election


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In reply to Sam Lowry • 7:02p, 2/4/25
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Wangchung said:
Almost 4 and a half hours and none of our TDSers has dared say a word.
They'll eventually concede what happened and then try to say it was justified.
There are three inaccuracies, or at least possible inaccuracies, in the OP.

If anyone can spot them all, let's talk about whether the email was justified.
This email/letter was in 2020 and exposed in May of 2023. Since then the FBI has said there was no evidence of Russian involvement in the Hunter laptop.

This email wasn't justified and was an attempt to lie so that media would push a false narrative to help Joe Biden get elected.
You're circling around two of the inaccuracies:

1. The signers of the letter weren't making claims contrary to evidence, at least not at that time.

2. Nothing in the email suggests that they had a specific intent to mislead.

Take a swing at the last one?
They never had ANY evidence. That's the problem!

It was corrupt for them to suspect, guess, insinuate or even say it was a possibility with absolutely nothing to back it up.
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In reply to Doc Holliday • 7:16p, 2/4/25
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Wangchung said:
Almost 4 and a half hours and none of our TDSers has dared say a word.
They'll eventually concede what happened and then try to say it was justified.
There are three inaccuracies, or at least possible inaccuracies, in the OP.

If anyone can spot them all, let's talk about whether the email was justified.
This email/letter was in 2020 and exposed in May of 2023. Since then the FBI has said there was no evidence of Russian involvement in the Hunter laptop.

This email wasn't justified and was an attempt to lie so that media would push a false narrative to help Joe Biden get elected.
You're circling around two of the inaccuracies:

1. The signers of the letter weren't making claims contrary to evidence, at least not at that time.

2. Nothing in the email suggests that they had a specific intent to mislead.

Take a swing at the last one?
They never had ANY evidence. That's the problem!

It was corrupt for them to suspect, guess, insinuate or even say it was a possibility with absolutely nothing to back it up.


Egggggzactly. They signed their name to it. What proof did they have that it was Russian disinformation? They in fact signed using their gravitas and position to convince American voters trumo was a loon wacj job that was elected because of putin

Of course we then found out who all the loon each jobs were lol. And the hits just keep coming. So hilarious to watch and observe. Cockaroaches scurrying errywhere. Everyone that resisted proven right all along. It's like being in Heaven and God revealing the truth and yet it is here in our temporal existence we get to sit back and bask in the glory of the truth.

Thank you bad orange dude

Thank you Elon of they say Hitler salute fame
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In reply to Doc Holliday • 7:29p, 2/4/25
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Wangchung said:
Almost 4 and a half hours and none of our TDSers has dared say a word.
They'll eventually concede what happened and then try to say it was justified.
There are three inaccuracies, or at least possible inaccuracies, in the OP.

If anyone can spot them all, let's talk about whether the email was justified.
This email/letter was in 2020 and exposed in May of 2023. Since then the FBI has said there was no evidence of Russian involvement in the Hunter laptop.

This email wasn't justified and was an attempt to lie so that media would push a false narrative to help Joe Biden get elected.
You're circling around two of the inaccuracies:

1. The signers of the letter weren't making claims contrary to evidence, at least not at that time.

2. Nothing in the email suggests that they had a specific intent to mislead.

Take a swing at the last one?
They never had ANY evidence. That's the problem!

It was corrupt for them to suspect, guess, insinuate or even say it was a possibility with absolutely nothing to back it up.
They stated their grounds for suspicion in the letter. There was also evidence, which may or may not have been known at the time, of tampering with the data.

But you still haven't hit the most important point.
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In reply to Sam Lowry • 7:45p, 2/4/25
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Wangchung said:
Almost 4 and a half hours and none of our TDSers has dared say a word.
They'll eventually concede what happened and then try to say it was justified.
There are three inaccuracies, or at least possible inaccuracies, in the OP.

If anyone can spot them all, let's talk about whether the email was justified.
This email/letter was in 2020 and exposed in May of 2023. Since then the FBI has said there was no evidence of Russian involvement in the Hunter laptop.

This email wasn't justified and was an attempt to lie so that media would push a false narrative to help Joe Biden get elected.
You're circling around two of the inaccuracies:

1. The signers of the letter weren't making claims contrary to evidence, at least not at that time.

2. Nothing in the email suggests that they had a specific intent to mislead.

Take a swing at the last one?
They never had ANY evidence. That's the problem!

It was corrupt for them to suspect, guess, insinuate or even say it was a possibility with absolutely nothing to back it up.
They stated their grounds for suspicion in the letter. There was also evidence, which may or may not have been known at the time, of tampering with the data.

But you still haven't hit the most important point.
They knew. They did it specifically to help the Biden campaign. The "why" is in the letter.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

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In reply to Wangchung • 7:47p, 2/4/25
Wangchung said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Wangchung said:
Almost 4 and a half hours and none of our TDSers has dared say a word.
They'll eventually concede what happened and then try to say it was justified.
There are three inaccuracies, or at least possible inaccuracies, in the OP.

If anyone can spot them all, let's talk about whether the email was justified.
This email/letter was in 2020 and exposed in May of 2023. Since then the FBI has said there was no evidence of Russian involvement in the Hunter laptop.

This email wasn't justified and was an attempt to lie so that media would push a false narrative to help Joe Biden get elected.
You're circling around two of the inaccuracies:

1. The signers of the letter weren't making claims contrary to evidence, at least not at that time.

2. Nothing in the email suggests that they had a specific intent to mislead.

Take a swing at the last one?
They never had ANY evidence. That's the problem!

It was corrupt for them to suspect, guess, insinuate or even say it was a possibility with absolutely nothing to back it up.
They stated their grounds for suspicion in the letter. There was also evidence, which may or may not have been known at the time, of tampering with the data.

But you still haven't hit the most important point.
They knew. They did it specifically to help the Biden campaign. The "why" is in the letter.
The "why" is only "not" in the text if you have TDS. It's clearly there for everyone else to see.
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In reply to TinFoilHatPreacherBear • 8:55p, 2/4/25
TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:
Wangchung said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Wangchung said:
Almost 4 and a half hours and none of our TDSers has dared say a word.
They'll eventually concede what happened and then try to say it was justified.
There are three inaccuracies, or at least possible inaccuracies, in the OP.

If anyone can spot them all, let's talk about whether the email was justified.
This email/letter was in 2020 and exposed in May of 2023. Since then the FBI has said there was no evidence of Russian involvement in the Hunter laptop.

This email wasn't justified and was an attempt to lie so that media would push a false narrative to help Joe Biden get elected.
You're circling around two of the inaccuracies:

1. The signers of the letter weren't making claims contrary to evidence, at least not at that time.

2. Nothing in the email suggests that they had a specific intent to mislead.

Take a swing at the last one?
They never had ANY evidence. That's the problem!

It was corrupt for them to suspect, guess, insinuate or even say it was a possibility with absolutely nothing to back it up.
They stated their grounds for suspicion in the letter. There was also evidence, which may or may not have been known at the time, of tampering with the data.

But you still haven't hit the most important point.
They knew. They did it specifically to help the Biden campaign. The "why" is in the letter.
The "why" is only "not" in the text if you have TDS. It's clearly there for everyone else to see.


Yep. That's how Dems get their asses handed to them at the ballot box with that nonsense. Losers in life. 500,000 poll watchers help too.
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In reply to 4th and Inches • 7:59a, 2/5/25
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Doc Holliday said:
Just a few years ago we were told the deep state didn't exist and now they say its better than a democratically elected president.



These people are criminals. We quite literally have an oligarchy of bureaucrats that we must dismantle and in cases like this we should put them in prison.
its not a coincidence that Bill Krystol is getting USAID funds
Link?
www. Google. Com


No USAID funds for Kristol
typical oso



https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2025/02/03/the-dirty-truth-behind-bill-kristols-money-n4936617


Well, if PJmedia says it?????
What does Tucker say?
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In reply to Osodecentx • 8:16a, 2/5/25
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Doc Holliday said:
Just a few years ago we were told the deep state didn't exist and now they say its better than a democratically elected president.



These people are criminals. We quite literally have an oligarchy of bureaucrats that we must dismantle and in cases like this we should put them in prison.
its not a coincidence that Bill Krystol is getting USAID funds
Link?
www. Google. Com


No USAID funds for Kristol
typical oso



https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2025/02/03/the-dirty-truth-behind-bill-kristols-money-n4936617


Well, if PJmedia says it?????
What does Tucker say?

You'd rather hear it from MSLSD???
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In reply to ScottS • 9:42a, 2/5/25
ScottS said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Osodecentx said:
4th and Inches said:
Doc Holliday said:
Just a few years ago we were told the deep state didn't exist and now they say its better than a democratically elected president.



These people are criminals. We quite literally have an oligarchy of bureaucrats that we must dismantle and in cases like this we should put them in prison.
its not a coincidence that Bill Krystol is getting USAID funds
Link?
www. Google. Com


No USAID funds for Kristol
typical oso



https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2025/02/03/the-dirty-truth-behind-bill-kristols-money-n4936617


Well, if PJmedia says it?????
What does Tucker say?

You'd rather hear it from MSLSD???
I would prefer that it be truthful.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media

False claims
In August 2018, PJ Media published an article by then supervising editor Paula Bolyard,[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-18][18][/url] claiming that Google was manipulating its algorithm to prioritize left-leaning news outlets in their coverage of President Trump.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-19][19][/url] Bolyard acknowledged that her study was "not scientific", although she did conclude that "the results suggest a pattern of bias against right-leaning content." PolitiFact rated this claim as false.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-20][20][/url]
In January 2019, PJ Media published a column by their senior editor Tyler O'Neil[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-21][21][/url] in which he insinuated in his article that a Muslim community patrol in New York City might be enforcing Sharia Law and might be linked to the NYPD.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-22][22][/url] This group, the Muslim Community Patrol Service (MCPS)[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-23][23][/url] was a certified volunteer Neighborhood watch in Brooklyn, a NYC CERT[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-24][24][/url] along with other community patrols such as the Brooklyn Asian Safety Patrol[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-25][25][/url] and the Guardian Angels. PJ Media offered nothing that demonstrated the MCPS could, or planned to, "enforce Sharia law", beyond engaging in the speculative hypothetical that the MCPS might somehow "apply [...] Sharia in its community monitoring." Snopes rated this claim false.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-26][26][/url]
In February 2019, PJ Media published a column by one of their writers John Hawkins,[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-27][27][/url] also creator of Rightwingnews, in which he stated in an article titled "The Six Most Bizarre Proposals from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's Green New Deal",[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-28][28][/url] making five out of six claims such as "getting rid of airplanes" or "getting rid of cows", aim to "get rid of gas-powered cars in a decade", call for eliminating carbon emissions in ten years "without the use of nuclear power", or "promise 'economic security' for those 'unwilling to work'". Fact checkers from NewsGuard rated these five claims false,[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-29][29][/url] which can be further verified by the official government resolution H.Res.109 Green New Deal proposed by Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-30][30][/url]
In January 2020, PJ Media published a column by one of their writers,[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-31][31][/url] Robert Spencer, also founder and director of the anti-Muslim conspiracy blog Jihad Watch, in which he stated that congresswoman Ilhan Omar had given Iran military advice by suggesting it could target Trump hotels, and thus committed treason.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-32][32][/url] Snopes rated this claim false.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-33][33][/url]
In February 2020, PJ Media published a column by Victoria Taft, one of their writers[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-34][34][/url] and a conservative talk show host,[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-35][35][/url] in which she stated that President Barack Obama waited until millions were infected and 1000 dead in the U.S. before he declared the Pandemic H1N1/09 virus an emergency.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-36][36][/url] Snopes rated this claim false.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-37][37][/url]
According to NewsGuard,[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-38][38][/url] articles on PJMedia.com have frequently included distorted or misleading claims,[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-39][39][/url] including about the COVID-19 pandemic. A now deleted July 2020 article written by Matt Margolis headlined "COVID-19 May Soon Lose Status as an 'Epidemic' Under CDC Guidelines",[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-40][40][/url] promoted a misleading claim originally published by JustTheNews.com. Many other websites reported this story by PJ Media.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-41][41][/url][url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-42][42][/url] After the fact, PJ Media never issued a correction to their original story, but only an update with changes and a new headline "COVID-19 Will Not Soon Lose Status as an 'Epidemic' Under the CDC".[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-43][43][/url]
In August, 2020, PJ Media published an article by their Chicago editor Rick Moran,[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-44][44][/url] claiming Democrats were urging presidential candidate Joe Biden not to debate with President Trump because they were concerned with the former vice president's mental stamina.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-45][45][/url] The source for this claim cited on the PJ Media article was from Newsweek, but the article states that the former vice president was advised not to debate Trump, citing "publicity stunts and disregard for the rules in 2016" as well as cancelling debates over concerns of the COVID-19 pandemic.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-46][46][/url] Furthermore, the Newsweek article cited by PJ Media makes no mention about any mental stamina. According to CNN, Biden spokesman TJ Ducklo stated that presidential candidate Biden has already agreed to three debates with President Trump in fall 2020.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-47][47][/url]
In September 2020, PJ Media published an article by senior editor Tyler O'Neil,[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-48][48][/url] claiming that Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden was promising fewer fires, floods, and hurricanes if he should defeat Donald Trump in November.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-49][49][/url] Though Biden did promise he would solve the climate crisis if elected in November, he did not literally promise fewer catastrophic events. Fact checkers at Snopes rated this claim as false.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-50][50][/url]
In September 2022, PJ Media blogger Matt Margolis was the originator of a claim made in a PJ Media article that "The Obama Foundation stored classified documents in an abandoned furniture warehouse.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-51][51][/url] Snopes[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-52][52][/url] called this out as a false claim as both classified and unclassified records from the Obama presidency were temporarily located in Hoffman Estates, a suburb of Chicago, in a building that used to be an old furniture store. However, while the Obama Foundation provided funds to move and store those records, it had neither possession nor control of them, given that they were in the custody of the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) from the day Obama left office. What the PJ Media article failed to mention is that this was an agreement in which the foundation provided funds to move documents, but did not state that the foundation had control or access to those documents. After further research and scrutiny from other fact-checkers such as USA Today,[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-53][53][/url] PJ Media later admitted they made a false claim.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PJ_Media#cite_note-54][54][/url]

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In reply to Sam Lowry • 9:43a, 2/5/25
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Wangchung said:
Almost 4 and a half hours and none of our TDSers has dared say a word.
They'll eventually concede what happened and then try to say it was justified.
There are three inaccuracies, or at least possible inaccuracies, in the OP.

If anyone can spot them all, let's talk about whether the email was justified.
This email/letter was in 2020 and exposed in May of 2023. Since then the FBI has said there was no evidence of Russian involvement in the Hunter laptop.

This email wasn't justified and was an attempt to lie so that media would push a false narrative to help Joe Biden get elected.
You're circling around two of the inaccuracies:

1. The signers of the letter weren't making claims contrary to evidence, at least not at that time.

2. Nothing in the email suggests that they had a specific intent to mislead.

Take a swing at the last one?
They never had ANY evidence. That's the problem!

It was corrupt for them to suspect, guess, insinuate or even say it was a possibility with absolutely nothing to back it up.
They stated their grounds for suspicion in the letter. There was also evidence, which may or may not have been known at the time, of tampering with the data.

But you still haven't hit the most important point.
Their grounds for suspicion were falsified.

They can't just make a claim based on nothing and run with it, there has to be an origination or source for that suspicion and it has to be verified BEFORE you make a public claim. They didn't have that.

If they were casting doubts on the Hunter laptop, what were those doubts based on? Now that the FBI has said it's authentic, you'd have to get to the bottom of those doubts: who/what did they come from and why were they wrong?
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In reply to Osodecentx • 10:21a, 2/5/25
"I don't get my information from fake news, I use Wikipedia!"

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10:43a, 2/5/25
HOLY MOLY! Trump announces... AN END TO THE INCOME TAX???

I must be DREAMING! His SHOCKING proposal>>
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Osodecentx said:
HOLY MOLY! Trump announces... AN END TO THE INCOME TAX???

I must be DREAMING! His SHOCKING proposal>>


What??? Let's hope we have a new tax model coming our way.
Thee tinfoil hat couch-potato prognosticator, not a bible school preacher.


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Wikipedia is another Leftist propaganda rag. Citing them is not much different than citing CNN or MSNBC. No credibility.
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In reply to Doc Holliday • 12:03p, 2/5/25
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Wangchung said:
Almost 4 and a half hours and none of our TDSers has dared say a word.
They'll eventually concede what happened and then try to say it was justified.
There are three inaccuracies, or at least possible inaccuracies, in the OP.

If anyone can spot them all, let's talk about whether the email was justified.
This email/letter was in 2020 and exposed in May of 2023. Since then the FBI has said there was no evidence of Russian involvement in the Hunter laptop.

This email wasn't justified and was an attempt to lie so that media would push a false narrative to help Joe Biden get elected.
You're circling around two of the inaccuracies:

1. The signers of the letter weren't making claims contrary to evidence, at least not at that time.

2. Nothing in the email suggests that they had a specific intent to mislead.

Take a swing at the last one?
They never had ANY evidence. That's the problem!

It was corrupt for them to suspect, guess, insinuate or even say it was a possibility with absolutely nothing to back it up.
They stated their grounds for suspicion in the letter. There was also evidence, which may or may not have been known at the time, of tampering with the data.

But you still haven't hit the most important point.
Their grounds for suspicion were falsified.

They can't just make a claim based on nothing and run with it, there has to be an origination or source for that suspicion and it has to be verified BEFORE you make a public claim. They didn't have that.

If they were casting doubts on the Hunter laptop, what were those doubts based on? Now that the FBI has said it's authentic, you'd have to get to the bottom of those doubts: who/what did they come from and why were they wrong?
I don't know that they were wrong. At least one forensic analysis found extensive evidence of tampering.
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In reply to Sam Lowry • 12:07p, 2/5/25
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Wangchung said:
Almost 4 and a half hours and none of our TDSers has dared say a word.
They'll eventually concede what happened and then try to say it was justified.
There are three inaccuracies, or at least possible inaccuracies, in the OP.

If anyone can spot them all, let's talk about whether the email was justified.
This email/letter was in 2020 and exposed in May of 2023. Since then the FBI has said there was no evidence of Russian involvement in the Hunter laptop.

This email wasn't justified and was an attempt to lie so that media would push a false narrative to help Joe Biden get elected.
You're circling around two of the inaccuracies:

1. The signers of the letter weren't making claims contrary to evidence, at least not at that time.

2. Nothing in the email suggests that they had a specific intent to mislead.

Take a swing at the last one?
They never had ANY evidence. That's the problem!

It was corrupt for them to suspect, guess, insinuate or even say it was a possibility with absolutely nothing to back it up.
They stated their grounds for suspicion in the letter. There was also evidence, which may or may not have been known at the time, of tampering with the data.

But you still haven't hit the most important point.
Their grounds for suspicion were falsified.

They can't just make a claim based on nothing and run with it, there has to be an origination or source for that suspicion and it has to be verified BEFORE you make a public claim. They didn't have that.

If they were casting doubts on the Hunter laptop, what were those doubts based on? Now that the FBI has said it's authentic, you'd have to get to the bottom of those doubts: who/what did they come from and why were they wrong?
I don't know that they were wrong. At least one forensic analysis found extensive evidence of tampering.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

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In reply to Wangchung • 12:31p, 2/5/25
Wangchung said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Wangchung said:
Almost 4 and a half hours and none of our TDSers has dared say a word.
They'll eventually concede what happened and then try to say it was justified.
There are three inaccuracies, or at least possible inaccuracies, in the OP.

If anyone can spot them all, let's talk about whether the email was justified.
This email/letter was in 2020 and exposed in May of 2023. Since then the FBI has said there was no evidence of Russian involvement in the Hunter laptop.

This email wasn't justified and was an attempt to lie so that media would push a false narrative to help Joe Biden get elected.
You're circling around two of the inaccuracies:

1. The signers of the letter weren't making claims contrary to evidence, at least not at that time.

2. Nothing in the email suggests that they had a specific intent to mislead.

Take a swing at the last one?
They never had ANY evidence. That's the problem!

It was corrupt for them to suspect, guess, insinuate or even say it was a possibility with absolutely nothing to back it up.
They stated their grounds for suspicion in the letter. There was also evidence, which may or may not have been known at the time, of tampering with the data.

But you still haven't hit the most important point.
Their grounds for suspicion were falsified.

They can't just make a claim based on nothing and run with it, there has to be an origination or source for that suspicion and it has to be verified BEFORE you make a public claim. They didn't have that.

If they were casting doubts on the Hunter laptop, what were those doubts based on? Now that the FBI has said it's authentic, you'd have to get to the bottom of those doubts: who/what did they come from and why were they wrong?
I don't know that they were wrong. At least one forensic analysis found extensive evidence of tampering.
any chance that independent analysis was paid for by USAID?
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In reply to Sam Lowry • 2:19p, 2/5/25
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Wangchung said:
Almost 4 and a half hours and none of our TDSers has dared say a word.
They'll eventually concede what happened and then try to say it was justified.
There are three inaccuracies, or at least possible inaccuracies, in the OP.

If anyone can spot them all, let's talk about whether the email was justified.
This email/letter was in 2020 and exposed in May of 2023. Since then the FBI has said there was no evidence of Russian involvement in the Hunter laptop.

This email wasn't justified and was an attempt to lie so that media would push a false narrative to help Joe Biden get elected.
You're circling around two of the inaccuracies:

1. The signers of the letter weren't making claims contrary to evidence, at least not at that time.

2. Nothing in the email suggests that they had a specific intent to mislead.

Take a swing at the last one?
They never had ANY evidence. That's the problem!

It was corrupt for them to suspect, guess, insinuate or even say it was a possibility with absolutely nothing to back it up.
They stated their grounds for suspicion in the letter. There was also evidence, which may or may not have been known at the time, of tampering with the data.

But you still haven't hit the most important point.
Their grounds for suspicion were falsified.

They can't just make a claim based on nothing and run with it, there has to be an origination or source for that suspicion and it has to be verified BEFORE you make a public claim. They didn't have that.

If they were casting doubts on the Hunter laptop, what were those doubts based on? Now that the FBI has said it's authentic, you'd have to get to the bottom of those doubts: who/what did they come from and why were they wrong?
I don't know that they were wrong. At least one forensic analysis found extensive evidence of tampering.
Which is completely refuted by the FBI...so was that analysis a lie?
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In reply to Doc Holliday • 3:54p, 2/5/25
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Wangchung said:
Almost 4 and a half hours and none of our TDSers has dared say a word.
They'll eventually concede what happened and then try to say it was justified.
There are three inaccuracies, or at least possible inaccuracies, in the OP.

If anyone can spot them all, let's talk about whether the email was justified.
This email/letter was in 2020 and exposed in May of 2023. Since then the FBI has said there was no evidence of Russian involvement in the Hunter laptop.

This email wasn't justified and was an attempt to lie so that media would push a false narrative to help Joe Biden get elected.
You're circling around two of the inaccuracies:

1. The signers of the letter weren't making claims contrary to evidence, at least not at that time.

2. Nothing in the email suggests that they had a specific intent to mislead.

Take a swing at the last one?
They never had ANY evidence. That's the problem!

It was corrupt for them to suspect, guess, insinuate or even say it was a possibility with absolutely nothing to back it up.
They stated their grounds for suspicion in the letter. There was also evidence, which may or may not have been known at the time, of tampering with the data.

But you still haven't hit the most important point.
Their grounds for suspicion were falsified.

They can't just make a claim based on nothing and run with it, there has to be an origination or source for that suspicion and it has to be verified BEFORE you make a public claim. They didn't have that.

If they were casting doubts on the Hunter laptop, what were those doubts based on? Now that the FBI has said it's authentic, you'd have to get to the bottom of those doubts: who/what did they come from and why were they wrong?
I don't know that they were wrong. At least one forensic analysis found extensive evidence of tampering.
Which is completely refuted by the FBI...so was that analysis a lie?
It's unclear how detailed the FBI's analysis was. They determined that the laptop was his, which was the main thing they were interested in for prosecution purposes.
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In reply to Sam Lowry • 4:29p, 2/5/25
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Wangchung said:
Almost 4 and a half hours and none of our TDSers has dared say a word.
They'll eventually concede what happened and then try to say it was justified.
There are three inaccuracies, or at least possible inaccuracies, in the OP.

If anyone can spot them all, let's talk about whether the email was justified.
This email/letter was in 2020 and exposed in May of 2023. Since then the FBI has said there was no evidence of Russian involvement in the Hunter laptop.

This email wasn't justified and was an attempt to lie so that media would push a false narrative to help Joe Biden get elected.
You're circling around two of the inaccuracies:

1. The signers of the letter weren't making claims contrary to evidence, at least not at that time.

2. Nothing in the email suggests that they had a specific intent to mislead.

Take a swing at the last one?
They never had ANY evidence. That's the problem!

It was corrupt for them to suspect, guess, insinuate or even say it was a possibility with absolutely nothing to back it up.
They stated their grounds for suspicion in the letter. There was also evidence, which may or may not have been known at the time, of tampering with the data.

But you still haven't hit the most important point.
Their grounds for suspicion were falsified.

They can't just make a claim based on nothing and run with it, there has to be an origination or source for that suspicion and it has to be verified BEFORE you make a public claim. They didn't have that.

If they were casting doubts on the Hunter laptop, what were those doubts based on? Now that the FBI has said it's authentic, you'd have to get to the bottom of those doubts: who/what did they come from and why were they wrong?
I don't know that they were wrong. At least one forensic analysis found extensive evidence of tampering.
Which is completely refuted by the FBI...so was that analysis a lie?
It's unclear how detailed the FBI's analysis was. They determined that the laptop was his, which was the main thing they were interested in for prosecution purposes.
Nothing on his laptop was put there by anyone other than Hunter.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

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Sam, again, is being obtuse. Best to ignore the troll.
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In reply to Wangchung • 4:45p, 2/5/25
Wangchung said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Wangchung said:
Almost 4 and a half hours and none of our TDSers has dared say a word.
They'll eventually concede what happened and then try to say it was justified.
There are three inaccuracies, or at least possible inaccuracies, in the OP.

If anyone can spot them all, let's talk about whether the email was justified.
This email/letter was in 2020 and exposed in May of 2023. Since then the FBI has said there was no evidence of Russian involvement in the Hunter laptop.

This email wasn't justified and was an attempt to lie so that media would push a false narrative to help Joe Biden get elected.
You're circling around two of the inaccuracies:

1. The signers of the letter weren't making claims contrary to evidence, at least not at that time.

2. Nothing in the email suggests that they had a specific intent to mislead.

Take a swing at the last one?
They never had ANY evidence. That's the problem!

It was corrupt for them to suspect, guess, insinuate or even say it was a possibility with absolutely nothing to back it up.
They stated their grounds for suspicion in the letter. There was also evidence, which may or may not have been known at the time, of tampering with the data.

But you still haven't hit the most important point.
Their grounds for suspicion were falsified.

They can't just make a claim based on nothing and run with it, there has to be an origination or source for that suspicion and it has to be verified BEFORE you make a public claim. They didn't have that.

If they were casting doubts on the Hunter laptop, what were those doubts based on? Now that the FBI has said it's authentic, you'd have to get to the bottom of those doubts: who/what did they come from and why were they wrong?
I don't know that they were wrong. At least one forensic analysis found extensive evidence of tampering.
Which is completely refuted by the FBI...so was that analysis a lie?
It's unclear how detailed the FBI's analysis was. They determined that the laptop was his, which was the main thing they were interested in for prosecution purposes.
Nothing on his laptop was put there by anyone other than Hunter.
That is exactly what the Russians want you to think.
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In reply to Wangchung • 4:56p, 2/5/25
Wangchung said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Wangchung said:
Almost 4 and a half hours and none of our TDSers has dared say a word.
They'll eventually concede what happened and then try to say it was justified.
There are three inaccuracies, or at least possible inaccuracies, in the OP.

If anyone can spot them all, let's talk about whether the email was justified.
This email/letter was in 2020 and exposed in May of 2023. Since then the FBI has said there was no evidence of Russian involvement in the Hunter laptop.

This email wasn't justified and was an attempt to lie so that media would push a false narrative to help Joe Biden get elected.
You're circling around two of the inaccuracies:

1. The signers of the letter weren't making claims contrary to evidence, at least not at that time.

2. Nothing in the email suggests that they had a specific intent to mislead.

Take a swing at the last one?
They never had ANY evidence. That's the problem!

It was corrupt for them to suspect, guess, insinuate or even say it was a possibility with absolutely nothing to back it up.
They stated their grounds for suspicion in the letter. There was also evidence, which may or may not have been known at the time, of tampering with the data.

But you still haven't hit the most important point.
Their grounds for suspicion were falsified.

They can't just make a claim based on nothing and run with it, there has to be an origination or source for that suspicion and it has to be verified BEFORE you make a public claim. They didn't have that.

If they were casting doubts on the Hunter laptop, what were those doubts based on? Now that the FBI has said it's authentic, you'd have to get to the bottom of those doubts: who/what did they come from and why were they wrong?
I don't know that they were wrong. At least one forensic analysis found extensive evidence of tampering.
Which is completely refuted by the FBI...so was that analysis a lie?
It's unclear how detailed the FBI's analysis was. They determined that the laptop was his, which was the main thing they were interested in for prosecution purposes.
Nothing on his laptop was put there by anyone other than Hunter.
Independent analysis found otherwise.
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In reply to Sam Lowry • 5:27p, 2/5/25
Independent analysis funded by USAID?

Sorry, I don't know the answer to that, but it is a question you have to ask now.
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In reply to Sam Lowry • 5:29p, 2/5/25
Sam Lowry said:
Wangchung said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Wangchung said:
Almost 4 and a half hours and none of our TDSers has dared say a word.
They'll eventually concede what happened and then try to say it was justified.
There are three inaccuracies, or at least possible inaccuracies, in the OP.

If anyone can spot them all, let's talk about whether the email was justified.
This email/letter was in 2020 and exposed in May of 2023. Since then the FBI has said there was no evidence of Russian involvement in the Hunter laptop.

This email wasn't justified and was an attempt to lie so that media would push a false narrative to help Joe Biden get elected.
You're circling around two of the inaccuracies:

1. The signers of the letter weren't making claims contrary to evidence, at least not at that time.

2. Nothing in the email suggests that they had a specific intent to mislead.

Take a swing at the last one?
They never had ANY evidence. That's the problem!

It was corrupt for them to suspect, guess, insinuate or even say it was a possibility with absolutely nothing to back it up.
They stated their grounds for suspicion in the letter. There was also evidence, which may or may not have been known at the time, of tampering with the data.

But you still haven't hit the most important point.
Their grounds for suspicion were falsified.

They can't just make a claim based on nothing and run with it, there has to be an origination or source for that suspicion and it has to be verified BEFORE you make a public claim. They didn't have that.

If they were casting doubts on the Hunter laptop, what were those doubts based on? Now that the FBI has said it's authentic, you'd have to get to the bottom of those doubts: who/what did they come from and why were they wrong?
I don't know that they were wrong. At least one forensic analysis found extensive evidence of tampering.
Which is completely refuted by the FBI...so was that analysis a lie?
It's unclear how detailed the FBI's analysis was. They determined that the laptop was his, which was the main thing they were interested in for prosecution purposes.
Nothing on his laptop was put there by anyone other than Hunter.
Independent analysis found otherwise.
Sure. Independent analysis of a laptop in FBI custody. That sounds legit.
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In reply to Wangchung • 5:36p, 2/5/25
Wangchung said:
Sam Lowry said:
Wangchung said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Sam Lowry said:
Doc Holliday said:
Wangchung said:
Almost 4 and a half hours and none of our TDSers has dared say a word.
They'll eventually concede what happened and then try to say it was justified.
There are three inaccuracies, or at least possible inaccuracies, in the OP.

If anyone can spot them all, let's talk about whether the email was justified.
This email/letter was in 2020 and exposed in May of 2023. Since then the FBI has said there was no evidence of Russian involvement in the Hunter laptop.

This email wasn't justified and was an attempt to lie so that media would push a false narrative to help Joe Biden get elected.
You're circling around two of the inaccuracies:

1. The signers of the letter weren't making claims contrary to evidence, at least not at that time.

2. Nothing in the email suggests that they had a specific intent to mislead.

Take a swing at the last one?
They never had ANY evidence. That's the problem!

It was corrupt for them to suspect, guess, insinuate or even say it was a possibility with absolutely nothing to back it up.
They stated their grounds for suspicion in the letter. There was also evidence, which may or may not have been known at the time, of tampering with the data.

But you still haven't hit the most important point.
Their grounds for suspicion were falsified.

They can't just make a claim based on nothing and run with it, there has to be an origination or source for that suspicion and it has to be verified BEFORE you make a public claim. They didn't have that.

If they were casting doubts on the Hunter laptop, what were those doubts based on? Now that the FBI has said it's authentic, you'd have to get to the bottom of those doubts: who/what did they come from and why were they wrong?
I don't know that they were wrong. At least one forensic analysis found extensive evidence of tampering.
Which is completely refuted by the FBI...so was that analysis a lie?
It's unclear how detailed the FBI's analysis was. They determined that the laptop was his, which was the main thing they were interested in for prosecution purposes.
Nothing on his laptop was put there by anyone other than Hunter.
Independent analysis found otherwise.
Sure. Independent analysis of a laptop in FBI custody. That sounds legit.


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The source might surprise you. Y'all should look into that.
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