Married A Horn said:

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https://www.forexlive.com/news/us-central-intelligence-agency-offered-buyouts-to-its-entire-workforce-on-tuesday-20250205/

Bye-bye deep state. Unreal. I cant take a break to use the restroom because I will miss the next biggest headline ever!

I have hated the cia for a long time and have said many times on here to get rid of all of them. This is greatness.

I'd take the deal rats.

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People who suck and are losers at life and accomplishing anything if note legitimately being exposed everywhere. Can't believe people vote for that trash but we know who they are now and can treat them accordingly in life and at work

Trump is not having a good day.

This is another bad idea.

What happens if 60% of the CIA bails out ?

How does this possibly make the US more secure ?

ABC BEAR said:

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KaiBear said:

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Trump is not having a good day.

This is another bad idea.

What happens if 60% of the CIA bails out ?

How does this possibly make the US more secure ?

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Yep, the CIA has done such a damn fine job the past 25 years: 9-11 warnings; WMD's in Iraq; Benghazi; Trump dossier; Afghanistan plus various and sundry incompetence's along the way. We will also have a chance to pore over the JFK files to see if they were involved there.

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Of course I'd have to wonder if some very rich people got 9-11 warnings. But that'd be a conspiracy too far I guess.

Sam Lowry said:

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KaiBear said:

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Trump is not having a good day.

This is another bad idea.

What happens if 60% of the CIA bails out ?

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Easy...raise the offer.

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OK that was good..

Rep point coming your way.

KaiBear said:

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What happens if 60% of the CIA bails out ?

How does this possibly make the US more secure ?

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Like every other over staffed and bloated government agency….i can assure you a 50%-60% reduction in staffing will not effect the institution much and might actually make it far more effective.

I know it might seem like everyone at the CIA is a subject matter expert or ex-military hard core guy.

But most are Georgetown JDs with liberal arts degrees and pushing paper

[According to available information, the CIA has an estimated number of 21,575 employees. However, the exact number is classified and not publicly disclose]

Honestly the CIA can easily function with just a measly 10,000 employees on staff

KaiBear said:

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Trump is not having a good day.

This is another bad idea.

What happens if 60% of the CIA bails out ?

How does this possibly make the US more secure ?

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Easy just take the pensions of the CIA employees already retired. It is a money savings and no loss of function. There I solved it.

historian said:

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Serious question.

Is that the Government job or the Private sector not paying? Government jobs for generations were less lucrative, but you had more security and good retirement benefits. My Grandfather left the Pennsylvania RR when he had a family and drove subways instead. Less money but good pension. Same throughout.

Now, the private sector is not paying. Executive bonuses are exorbitant, pensions are gone and health care on the way out. I have worked both. General pattern, start at Government to get experience, go to the private sector to get paid, and move back to Govt when the economy bottoms or fill in the last years for retirement. Govt was NEVER the place to make money. Salaries, when adjusted for inflation, at the Govt level have not changed. Those making 6 figures have a lot of seniority, a lot of years NOT making private sector wages.

So, why hasn't the private sector kept up? Why have benefits in the private sector gone away? Why is the Fed a better choice for money? I know it is popular to crucify government, Biden made it much worse, but the private sector is not paying, but sure seem to be profiting.

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FLBear5630 said:

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historian said:

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Serious question.

Is that the Government job or the Private sector not paying? Government jobs for generations were less lucrative, but you had more security and good retirement benefits. My Grandfather left the Pennsylvania RR when he had a family and drove subways instead. Less money but good pension. Same throughout.

Now, the private sector is not paying. Executive bonuses are exorbitant, pensions are gone and health care on the way out. I have worked both. General pattern, start at Government to get experience, go to the private sector to get paid, and move back to Govt when the economy bottoms or fill in the last years for retirement. Govt was NEVER the place to make money. Salaries, when adjusted for inflation, at the Govt level have not changed. Those making 6 figures have a lot of seniority, a lot of years NOT making private sector wages.

So, why hasn't the private sector kept up? Why have benefits in the private sector gone away? Why is the Fed a better choice for money? I know it is popular to crucify government, Biden made it much worse, but the private sector is not paying, but sure seem to be profiting.

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The private sector is the market. They don't have the ability to force people to pay them under threat of prison. But typically government jobs trail behind in pay than private sector. The difference is that the benefits are good, they don't get fired, and they don't have to work as hard as private sector employees.

Additionally, wages don't keep up in this the most powerful and richest country in the world because we have both a central bank that taxes its citizens via inflation and we have a globalist led economy that will hire cheaper labor across the globe, legal or not. Money leaves our communities in unprecedented levels and the multiplier effect disappears from those communities.

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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historian said:

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Serious question.

Is that the Government job or the Private sector not paying? Government jobs for generations were less lucrative, but you had more security and good retirement benefits. My Grandfather left the Pennsylvania RR when he had a family and drove subways instead. Less money but good pension. Same throughout.

Now, the private sector is not paying. Executive bonuses are exorbitant, pensions are gone and health care on the way out. I have worked both. General pattern, start at Government to get experience, go to the private sector to get paid, and move back to Govt when the economy bottoms or fill in the last years for retirement. Govt was NEVER the place to make money. Salaries, when adjusted for inflation, at the Govt level have not changed. Those making 6 figures have a lot of seniority, a lot of years NOT making private sector wages.

So, why hasn't the private sector kept up? Why have benefits in the private sector gone away? Why is the Fed a better choice for money? I know it is popular to crucify government, Biden made it much worse, but the private sector is not paying, but sure seem to be profiting.

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The private sector is the market. They don't have the ability to force people to pay them under threat of prison. But typically government jobs trail behind in pay than private sector. The difference is that the benefits are good, they don't get fired, and they don't have to work as hard as private sector employees.

Additionally, wages don't keep up in this the most powerful and richest country in the world because we have both a central bank that taxes its citizens via inflation and we have a globalist led economy that will hire cheaper labor across the globe, legal or not. Money leaves our communities in unprecedented levels and the multiplier effect disappears from those communities.

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I agree with everything you say. So, what does it say about the true strength of our economy that the Fed is preferrable to the private because the salaries are higher? Fed salaries have not gotten a big bump lately, they are pretty much in line with where they always were outside of inflation. Govt jobs usually only get COLA. I would love to see the data on that. Are these salaries out of whack because of Government abuse or because the dollar doesn't buy as much? Also, if that is the case should the people that are setting the market prices for salaries in the Private sector be going after the public sector? Isn't this a bit self-serving?

Thanks for the response, nice to have a subject matter discussion not political rhetoric discussion.