EPA does many things to protect society. It was created by a rep. Richard Nixon

Concern about air and water pollution had spread in the wake of disasters. An offshore oil rig in California fouled beaches with millions of gallons of spilled oil. Near Cleveland, Ohio, the Cuyahoga River, choking with chemical contaminants, had spontaneously burst into flames. Astronauts had begun photographing the Earth from space, heightening awareness that the Earth's resources are finite.

I would hope Brent Efron would try to carry out the projects with the money he has before Elon and Trump take it it back. I have lived in several places where water is not drinkable. I am glad ours here is. I know most of yall probably just drink bottled water but many of the poor unwashed like me, still do,.

I heard some somewhere Elon's various companies have around 10 billions in government contracts. Some of his companies are in direct competition with the same countries Elon is auditing. Does that seem like a conflict of interest?

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KaiBear said:

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Unlike the Dept of Education...the EPA deserves to stay in business.

Like the Pentagon....the EPA wastes a ton of money and needs to be fully audited.

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They need to dump all the climate change crap and focus on making the environment clean which is what they were orginally intneded for. Go to E Palestine and help clean it up. Go to W N. Carolina and help with the toxic clean up there. There are plenty of disaster areas they could help to clean up.

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Agreed

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But but but that $ was to help the climate. We are now doomed. Trump and Elon want the climate to get bad so the Earth blows up.

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The climate is changing. It always has and always will. It doesnt matter whether you believe humans have contributed to it or not. The EPA has tried to find a way to deal with the changes. I am sure some spending could be trimmed.

I havent heard anyone complain about our leaders trip tp the SB. I heard the cost was estimated between 10 and 20 million. Its certianly not common. He was the first. Why couldnt he pay for it? He only stayed till halftime. Trump is one of the richest men in Ameerica and you and I had to help him go to a football game. Other presidents havent done that.

KaiBear said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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ScottS said:

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But but but that $ was to help the climate. We are now doomed. Trump and Elon want the climate to get bad so the Earth blows up.

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The climate is changing. It always has and always will. It doesnt matter whether you believe humans have contributed to it or not. The EPA has tried to find a way to deal with the changes. I am sure some spending could be trimmed.

I havent heard anyone complain about our leaders trip tp the SB. I heard the cost was estimated between 10 and 20 million. Its certianly not common. He was the first. Why couldnt he pay for it? He only stayed till halftime. Trump is one of the richest men in Ameerica and you and I had to help him go to a football game. Other presidents havent done that.

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The dude is so rich he has never taken a paycheck as president and donates the money to charities.

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Correct.

Strange how some folks insist on ignoring such realities.

BTW believe the only other president besides Trump to donate his paycheck was Hoover.

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Is the paycheck enough to cover tge 10 to 20.millon dollars we paid for him to attend the first half of a football game?

Btw I apologize for not being more specific. The older Bush did attend two sb bowl games. However, I bet we didn't pay for it. I should have said Trump.was the only acting president to spend 10 to 20 million so he could watch half a game of football. Maybe my info is wrong.

cowboycwr said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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ScottS said:

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But but but that $ was to help the climate. We are now doomed. Trump and Elon want the climate to get bad so the Earth blows up.

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The climate is changing. It always has and always will. It doesnt matter whether you believe humans have contributed to it or not. The EPA has tried to find a way to deal with the changes. I am sure some spending could be trimmed.

I havent heard anyone complain about our leaders trip tp the SB. I heard the cost was estimated between 10 and 20 million. Its certianly not common. He was the first. Why couldnt he pay for it? He only stayed till halftime. Trump is one of the richest men in Ameerica and you and I had to help him go to a football game. Other presidents havent done that.

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And how many wasteful trips did Biden take?

Or remember when Obama took a trip to watch a broadway show?

I also find it funny that you seem to be the one that will pull up links to numerous articles when someone says "this isn't getting covered in the media"

And yet on this topic when a google search is done the sources that come up all seem to be social media sites and fringe news sources. No main stream media. Not even CNN or MSNBC which love to attack Trump.

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Msnbc had several and ABC had one. Of course many of the more liberal sites had it.

I like your whataboutism with Obama and biden.. I agree that Trump is about the same. How did Obamas trip to a Broadway show cost us? How many millions? Did he load up the plane with 15 cronies to a 1000 ticket event with hundreds of thousands $ worth of security? Trump is the first seated president to attend a SB live. It costs you and I 10 to 20 million dollars. We all helped a millionaire go to the 1st half of a football game.. Nero fiddles while roam burns.

KaiBear said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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KaiBear said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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ScottS said:

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But but but that $ was to help the climate. We are now doomed. Trump and Elon want the climate to get bad so the Earth blows up.

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The climate is changing. It always has and always will. It doesnt matter whether you believe humans have contributed to it or not. The EPA has tried to find a way to deal with the changes. I am sure some spending could be trimmed.

I havent heard anyone complain about our leaders trip tp the SB. I heard the cost was estimated between 10 and 20 million. Its certianly not common. He was the first. Why couldnt he pay for it? He only stayed till halftime. Trump is one of the richest men in Ameerica and you and I had to help him go to a football game. Other presidents havent done that.

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The dude is so rich he has never taken a paycheck as president and donates the money to charities.

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Correct.

Strange how some folks insist on ignoring such realities.

BTW believe the only other president besides Trump to donate his paycheck was Hoover.

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Is the paycheck enough to cover tge 10 to 20.millon dollars we paid for him to attend the first half of a football game?

Btw I apologize for not being more specific. The older Bush did attend two sb bowl games. However, I bet we didn't pay for it. I should have said Trump.was the only acting president to spend 10 to 20 million so he could watch half a game of football. Maybe my info is wrong.

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We both know you are only interested in 'gotcha' games.

Trump is doing a miraculous job on a wide front of issues.

But since you are a creature of the teacher union, you'd be loath to admit it.

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When I worked at Safeway I was offered union membership at 16. I refused. I have ever since. I have never belonged to a union. You lied on that one Aggie.
Since we are talking about truth you are an aggie right? Never attended Baylor. Some of the best posters here didn't either but they don't lie about.

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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KaiBear said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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KaiBear said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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ScottS said:

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But but but that $ was to help the climate. We are now doomed. Trump and Elon want the climate to get bad so the Earth blows up.

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The climate is changing. It always has and always will. It doesnt matter whether you believe humans have contributed to it or not. The EPA has tried to find a way to deal with the changes. I am sure some spending could be trimmed.

I havent heard anyone complain about our leaders trip tp the SB. I heard the cost was estimated between 10 and 20 million. Its certianly not common. He was the first. Why couldnt he pay for it? He only stayed till halftime. Trump is one of the richest men in Ameerica and you and I had to help him go to a football game. Other presidents havent done that.

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The dude is so rich he has never taken a paycheck as president and donates the money to charities.

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Correct.

Strange how some folks insist on ignoring such realities.

BTW believe the only other president besides Trump to donate his paycheck was Hoover.

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Is the paycheck enough to cover tge 10 to 20.millon dollars we paid for him to attend the first half of a football game?

Btw I apologize for not being more specific. The older Bush did attend two sb bowl games. However, I bet we didn't pay for it. I should have said Trump.was the only acting president to spend 10 to 20 million so he could watch half a game of football. Maybe my info is wrong.

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We both know you are only interested in 'gotcha' games.

Trump is doing a miraculous job on a wide front of issues.

But since you are a creature of the teacher union, you'd be loath to admit it.

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When I worked at Safeway I was offered union membership at 16. I refused. I have ever since. I have never belonged to a union. You lied on that one Aggie.
Since we are talking about truth you are an aggie right? Never attended Baylor. Some of the best posters here didn't either but they don't lie about.

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Bizarre how an old guy in his 60's constantly obsesses about such minutiae on a free internet message board.

As if the world revolves around such silliness.

But I will throw still another bone.

For the mere cost of $ 4000 will mail you a copy of my diploma.

Certified funds only.

KaiBear said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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KaiBear said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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KaiBear said:

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LIB,MR BEARS said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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ScottS said:

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But but but that $ was to help the climate. We are now doomed. Trump and Elon want the climate to get bad so the Earth blows up.

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The climate is changing. It always has and always will. It doesnt matter whether you believe humans have contributed to it or not. The EPA has tried to find a way to deal with the changes. I am sure some spending could be trimmed.

I havent heard anyone complain about our leaders trip tp the SB. I heard the cost was estimated between 10 and 20 million. Its certianly not common. He was the first. Why couldnt he pay for it? He only stayed till halftime. Trump is one of the richest men in Ameerica and you and I had to help him go to a football game. Other presidents havent done that.

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The dude is so rich he has never taken a paycheck as president and donates the money to charities.

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Correct.

Strange how some folks insist on ignoring such realities.

BTW believe the only other president besides Trump to donate his paycheck was Hoover.

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Is the paycheck enough to cover tge 10 to 20.millon dollars we paid for him to attend the first half of a football game?

Btw I apologize for not being more specific. The older Bush did attend two sb bowl games. However, I bet we didn't pay for it. I should have said Trump.was the only acting president to spend 10 to 20 million so he could watch half a game of football. Maybe my info is wrong.

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We both know you are only interested in 'gotcha' games.

Trump is doing a miraculous job on a wide front of issues.

But since you are a creature of the teacher union, you'd be loath to admit it.

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When I worked at Safeway I was offered union membership at 16. I refused. I have ever since. I have never belonged to a union. You lied on that one Aggie.
Since we are talking about truth you are an aggie right? Never attended Baylor. Some of the best posters here didn't either but they don't lie about.

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Bizarre how an old guy in his 60's constantly obsesses about such minutiae on a free internet message board.

As if the world revolves around such silliness.

But I will throw still another bone.

For the mere cost of $ 4000 will mail you a copy of my diploma.

Certified funds only.

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Lol. Cmon Canadian aggy. I proved with you stats. I will go over it agsin but right now I a.m busy in a dive bar. Let me make sure. You are denying you are an aggie?

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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cowboycwr said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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ScottS said:

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But but but that $ was to help the climate. We are now doomed. Trump and Elon want the climate to get bad so the Earth blows up.

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The climate is changing. It always has and always will. It doesnt matter whether you believe humans have contributed to it or not. The EPA has tried to find a way to deal with the changes. I am sure some spending could be trimmed.

I havent heard anyone complain about our leaders trip tp the SB. I heard the cost was estimated between 10 and 20 million. Its certianly not common. He was the first. Why couldnt he pay for it? He only stayed till halftime. Trump is one of the richest men in Ameerica and you and I had to help him go to a football game. Other presidents havent done that.

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And how many wasteful trips did Biden take?

Or remember when Obama took a trip to watch a broadway show?

I also find it funny that you seem to be the one that will pull up links to numerous articles when someone says "this isn't getting covered in the media"

And yet on this topic when a google search is done the sources that come up all seem to be social media sites and fringe news sources. No main stream media. Not even CNN or MSNBC which love to attack Trump.

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Msnbc had several and ABC had one. Of course many of the more liberal sites had it.

I like your whataboutism with Obama and biden.. I agree that Trump is about the same. How did Obamas trip to a Broadway show cost us? How many millions? Did he load up the plane with 15 cronies to a 1000 ticket event with hundreds of thousands $ worth of security? Trump is the first seated president to attend a SB live. It costs you and I 10 to 20 million dollars. We all helped a millionaire go to the 1st half of a football game.. Nero fiddles while roam burns.

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Just searched both their sites and found nothing.

Obama's one trip probably cost less just because it was a shorter flight. But how many trips did he take during his eight years? A heck of a lot.

So yeah there are still no reputable sources citing that cost anywhere.

None.

And that was California burning. And that was Newsome and other dems fault. Not the US. Trump is busy exposing the hypocrisy of the left by cutting their funding to fake projects. Nothing is burning because of him.

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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Lol. Cmon Canadian aggy. I proved with you stats. I will go over it agsin but right now I a.m busy in a dive bar. Let me make sure. You are denying you are an aggie?

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OK your constant insults have hurt my feelings.

The price is now $10,000.

But in addition to a copy of my degree(s) will throw in a recent glossy.

My final and best offer.

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Married A Horn said:

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The left's solution to climate change? More taxes!!

(That's how you know its a scam.)

Nature's contributions to climate change: 99.9%
Liberal Elites contributions to climate change 0.1%
Our contribution to climate change: 0%

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Liberals fart alot which I think contribute.

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Are you saying they are cows? That's one of their big bugaboos: farting cattle!

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The EPA should be downsized to Bureau status and attached to the Dept. of Interior.

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Yes. And downsize them to a narrowly defined mission of efforts to keep things clean. Everyone can agree on the need to maintain clean air & water and limiting pollution. But we don't want a govt trying to control the economy to the point of dictating what cars we can buy or can be manufactured or trying to limit what people can do on their own private property. Over the past 50 years they committed many such tyrannical & unconstitutional abuses under the guise of the Climate Cult & Hoax. The govt should stop paying for junk science that lies to provide cover for their abuses.

In their attempt to dump money, hoping they messed up somewhere and the guy in the video and his allies get held to account.