How, if at all, will the 2-14-25 "Dear Colleague" letter linked below impact Baylor. Baylor is an educational institution that receives federal funds, Pell Grants, research grants, federal student loans, etc.

https://www.ed.gov/media/document/dear-colleague-letter-sffa-v-harvard-109506.pdf

I'll hang up and listen.

They will need to comply and choose not to break the law or they'll lose funding and maybe face serious charges. It's really that simple.

Universities who supported DEI should publicly apologize for engaging in discrimination.

My guess?

They drop some of the stuff on the website

https://history.artsandsciences.baylor.edu/about/statement-diversity-equity-inclusion-and-belonging

But they change nothing behind the scenes and keep on with the DEI-woke stuff

Especially around the issue of race and normalizing LGTBQ on campus

Why is Baylor going woke??

Infiltration.
Large scale social deception.
Money.

ScottS said:

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Why is Baylor going woke??

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follow the money

International movement of money pushing woke

They can go woke but alot of alums might vomit.

ScottS said:

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Why is Baylor going woke??

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It's affiliate church is going woke. The illness extends far beyond Baylor, but the proximal cause is that the school's leadership isn't in the hands of practicing Christians.

Redbrickbear said:

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My guess?

They drop some of the stuff on the website

https://history.artsandsciences.baylor.edu/about/statement-diversity-equity-inclusion-and-belonging

But they change nothing behind the scenes and keep on with the DEI-woke stuff

Especially around the issue of race and normalizing LGTBQ on campus

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That will be the BOD/Linda play.

ScottS said:

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Why is Baylor going woke??

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Women and weak, pathetic "men"

Who is going to monitor BU's removal of DEI from its curriculum and website/marketing?

I can check the website daily and report.

Who is on the inside and can monitor their curriculum/course offerings, etc.?

Married A Horn said:

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Infiltration.
Large scale social deception.
Money.

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Progressives hide/lie about what they believe.

47 for example admitted as much about himself.

4yrletterbear said:

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Who is going to monitor BU's removal of DEI from its curriculum and website/marketing?

I can check the website daily and report.

Who is on the inside and can monitor their curriculum/course offerings, etc.?

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We need a BU DOGE

The irony is that Didn't Earn It as its core is so antithetical to Christianity.

American taxpayers at some point are gonna wake up and realize that they are tired of subsidizing anti-American woke bull***** Tenure has been used to entrench "the current thing," the opposite of its original intent. If universities actually had to comply with the tax code like the rest of us, they would shut down. Some big changes are afoot, in my humble opinion.


Baylor is not immune, as it follows the crowd just on a five year curve. (That's why, frankly, I'd rather my kids just go to a secular institution. It's more honest. But I digress.)

I doubt current universities can really change. I think it is more likely there will be a shift and they will be replaced. But I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

ScottS said:

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Why is Baylor going woke??

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The answer to every single issue in politics today revolves around money and power. If you follow the rabbit hole, that's what you'll find.

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ScottS said:

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Why is Baylor going woke??

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The answer to every single issue in politics today revolves around money and power. If you follow the rabbit hole, that's what you'll find.

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That's really what DOGE has uncovered. Didn't Earn It, Climate Hysteria, etc., are means of massive theft of tax payer dollars.

Anyone who has information on woke going underground at Baylor might want to message Megan Basham. She's still (I think) SBC, and has done a very good job of pulling back the curtain on the state of the convention.

Protestia might be another outlet willing to tackle it.

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American taxpayers at some point are gonna wake up and realize that they are tired of subsidizing anti-American woke bull***** Tenure has been used to entrench "the current thing," the opposite of its original intent. If universities actually had to comply with the tax code like the rest of us, they would shut down. Some big changes are afoot, in my humble opinion.


Baylor is not immune, as it follows the crowd just on a five year curve. (That's why, frankly, I'd rather my kids just go to a secular institution. It's more honest. But I digress.)

I doubt current universities can really change. I think it is more likely there will be a shift and they will be replaced. But I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

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The good thing about going to a secular school, the christian kids in the fellowship groups are usually authentic, whereas at a church school a lot of the kids are just following in the family tradition/business.

In other words the ones at the secular school are usually the real deal, not just playing the game.

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Robert Wilson said:

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American taxpayers at some point are gonna wake up and realize that they are tired of subsidizing anti-American woke bull***** Tenure has been used to entrench "the current thing," the opposite of its original intent. If universities actually had to comply with the tax code like the rest of us, they would shut down. Some big changes are afoot, in my humble opinion.


Baylor is not immune, as it follows the crowd just on a five year curve. (That's why, frankly, I'd rather my kids just go to a secular institution. It's more honest. But I digress.)

I doubt current universities can really change. I think it is more likely there will be a shift and they will be replaced. But I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

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The good thing about going to a secular school, the christian kids in the fellowship groups are usually authentic, whereas at a church school a lot of the kids are just following in the family tradition/business.

I other words the ones at the secular school are usually the real deal, not just playing the game.

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Baylor has t-shirt Christians? I dont believe you.

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Robert Wilson said:

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American taxpayers at some point are gonna wake up and realize that they are tired of subsidizing anti-American woke bull***** Tenure has been used to entrench "the current thing," the opposite of its original intent. If universities actually had to comply with the tax code like the rest of us, they would shut down. Some big changes are afoot, in my humble opinion.


Baylor is not immune, as it follows the crowd just on a five year curve. (That's why, frankly, I'd rather my kids just go to a secular institution. It's more honest. But I digress.)

I doubt current universities can really change. I think it is more likely there will be a shift and they will be replaced. But I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

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The good thing about going to a secular school, the Christian kids in the fellowship groups are usually authentic, whereas at a church school a lot of the kids are just following in the family tradition/business.

I other words the ones at the secular school are usually the real deal, not just playing the game.

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A little harsh....

There are of course t-shirt Christians at UT-austin, A&M, and Baylor

And there are really committed Christians at all schools.

I don't think we can accurately measure that

In fact I can see there being less T-shirt Christian Students at Baylor and more T-shirt Christian Professors (Adults just saying what they need to get a good paying job)

The Students after all are going into massive debt to go to what they feel is a Christian School that takes Christianity seriously

Redbrickbear said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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American taxpayers at some point are gonna wake up and realize that they are tired of subsidizing anti-American woke bull***** Tenure has been used to entrench "the current thing," the opposite of its original intent. If universities actually had to comply with the tax code like the rest of us, they would shut down. Some big changes are afoot, in my humble opinion.


Baylor is not immune, as it follows the crowd just on a five year curve. (That's why, frankly, I'd rather my kids just go to a secular institution. It's more honest. But I digress.)

I doubt current universities can really change. I think it is more likely there will be a shift and they will be replaced. But I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

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The good thing about going to a secular school, the Christian kids in the fellowship groups are usually authentic, whereas at a church school a lot of the kids are just following in the family tradition/business.

I other words the ones at the secular school are usually the real deal, not just playing the game.

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A little harsh....

There are of course t-shirt Christians at UT-austin, A&M, and Baylor

And there are really committed Christians at all schools.

I don't think we can accurately measure that

In fact I can see there being less T-shirt Christian Students at Baylor and more T-shirt Christian Professors (Adults just saying what they need to get a good paying job)

The Students after all are going into massive debt to go to what they feel is a Christian School that takes Christianity seriously

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I think your last sentence has a bunch of assumptions built into it that are questionable, but other than that I agree with you.

What drives me nuts is when Baylor adopts whatever "the current thing" is and then acts like it is Jesus juice. If some group at UT goes full-on BLM, they just do it and justify it based on its own merits (or lack thereof). At Baylor, I'll have to listen to the BLM guy give a prayer pretending Jesus riding his donkey into Nazareth was really just an early George Floyd march.

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Redbrickbear said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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American taxpayers at some point are gonna wake up and realize that they are tired of subsidizing anti-American woke bull***** Tenure has been used to entrench "the current thing," the opposite of its original intent. If universities actually had to comply with the tax code like the rest of us, they would shut down. Some big changes are afoot, in my humble opinion.


Baylor is not immune, as it follows the crowd just on a five year curve. (That's why, frankly, I'd rather my kids just go to a secular institution. It's more honest. But I digress.)

I doubt current universities can really change. I think it is more likely there will be a shift and they will be replaced. But I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

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The good thing about going to a secular school, the Christian kids in the fellowship groups are usually authentic, whereas at a church school a lot of the kids are just following in the family tradition/business.

I other words the ones at the secular school are usually the real deal, not just playing the game.

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A little harsh....

There are of course t-shirt Christians at UT-austin, A&M, and Baylor

And there are really committed Christians at all schools.

I don't think we can accurately measure that

In fact I can see there being less T-shirt Christian Students at Baylor and more T-shirt Christian Professors (Adults just saying what they need to get a good paying job)

The Students after all are going into massive debt to go to what they feel is a Christian School that takes Christianity seriously

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What drives me nuts is when Baylor adopts whatever "the current thing" is and then acts like it is Jesus juice. If some group at UT goes full-on BLM, they just do it and justify it based on its own merits (or lack thereof). At Baylor, I'll have to listen to the BLM guy give a prayer pretending Jesus riding his donkey into Nazareth was really just an early George Floyd march.

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Man that is really funny.....and really true

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Here's a bit of an answer.

[url=https://wacotrib.com/news/local/education/article_7e714c64-f0aa-11ef-921d-b7a4e3e50cdc.html]https://wacotrib.com/news/local/education/article_7e714c64-f0aa-11ef-921d-b7a4e3e50cdc.htmlBaylor regents hike tuition, launch scholarship push[/url]

from the article said:

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In another area of national and state attention, the attacks on diversity, equity and inclusion programs at many state colleges and universities shouldn't affect Baylor's efforts in expanding awareness and study of underrepresented groups, Livingstone said.


Baylor's concern in those areas flows from the university's Christian mission, she pointed out. "We lean into the Scripture that calls us to love our neighbor as ourselves," she said. As a private institution with a religious outlook, Baylor is "well-positioned" to justify and continue its current programs and emphases, the Baylor president said.

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Complete with the Jesus juice supporting DEI. Would be funny if it wasn't so weak and transparent.

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So Baylor just giving a middle finger to Texas and American voters who want this racialist focused nonsense to end

More woke ideology on campus

And all of it wrapped up in vaguely Christian-ish language brought to us by President Livingstone

Nice….

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Here's a bit of an answer.

[url=https://wacotrib.com/news/local/education/article_7e714c64-f0aa-11ef-921d-b7a4e3e50cdc.html]https://wacotrib.com/news/local/education/article_7e714c64-f0aa-11ef-921d-b7a4e3e50cdc.htmlBaylor regents hike tuition, launch scholarship push[/url]

from the article said:

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In another area of national and state attention, the attacks on diversity, equity and inclusion programs at many state colleges and universities shouldn't affect Baylor's efforts in expanding awareness and study of underrepresented groups, Livingstone said.


Baylor's concern in those areas flows from the university's Christian mission, she pointed out. "We lean into the Scripture that calls us to love our neighbor as ourselves," she said. As a private institution with a religious outlook, Baylor is "well-positioned" to justify and continue its current programs and emphases, the Baylor president said.

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Complete with the Jesus juice supporting DEI. Would be funny if it wasn't so weak and transparent.

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"We believe in inclusion, unless you were the president who saved this institution and led its establishment, development and growth in the late 19th Century, but held and exhibited views that were solidly in the cultural mainstream at the time."

ScottS said:

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Why is Baylor going woke??

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$$$. USAID was a slush fund to finance communist DEI ideology at college campuses and many got rich off the back of tax payers. Leavenworth will be the next stop for many

whitetrash said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Here's a bit of an answer.

[url=https://wacotrib.com/news/local/education/article_7e714c64-f0aa-11ef-921d-b7a4e3e50cdc.html]https://wacotrib.com/news/local/education/article_7e714c64-f0aa-11ef-921d-b7a4e3e50cdc.htmlBaylor regents hike tuition, launch scholarship push[/url]

from the article said:

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In another area of national and state attention, the attacks on diversity, equity and inclusion programs at many state colleges and universities shouldn't affect Baylor's efforts in expanding awareness and study of underrepresented groups, Livingstone said.


Baylor's concern in those areas flows from the university's Christian mission, she pointed out. "We lean into the Scripture that calls us to love our neighbor as ourselves," she said. As a private institution with a religious outlook, Baylor is "well-positioned" to justify and continue its current programs and emphases, the Baylor president said.

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Complete with the Jesus juice supporting DEI. Would be funny if it wasn't so weak and transparent.

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"We believe in inclusion, unless you were the president who saved this institution and led its establishment, development and growth in the late 19th Century, but held and exhibited views that were solidly in the cultural mainstream at the time."

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In another area of national and state attention, the attacks on diversity, equity and inclusion programs at many state colleges and universities shouldn't affect Baylor's efforts in expanding awareness and study of underrepresented groups, Livingstone said.

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Not sure what Baylor means with this. If you dig deep into the bowels of DEI, in some institutions, it is in itself an attack on fairness, equality, and equality of opportunity.

Eliminating it is not an attack, but progress.

Forest Bueller_bf said:

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whitetrash said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Here's a bit of an answer.

[url=https://wacotrib.com/news/local/education/article_7e714c64-f0aa-11ef-921d-b7a4e3e50cdc.html]https://wacotrib.com/news/local/education/article_7e714c64-f0aa-11ef-921d-b7a4e3e50cdc.htmlBaylor regents hike tuition, launch scholarship push[/url]

from the article said:

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In another area of national and state attention, the attacks on diversity, equity and inclusion programs at many state colleges and universities shouldn't affect Baylor's efforts in expanding awareness and study of underrepresented groups, Livingstone said.


Baylor's concern in those areas flows from the university's Christian mission, she pointed out. "We lean into the Scripture that calls us to love our neighbor as ourselves," she said. As a private institution with a religious outlook, Baylor is "well-positioned" to justify and continue its current programs and emphases, the Baylor president said.

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Complete with the Jesus juice supporting DEI. Would be funny if it wasn't so weak and transparent.

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"We believe in inclusion, unless you were the president who saved this institution and led its establishment, development and growth in the late 19th Century, but held and exhibited views that were solidly in the cultural mainstream at the time."

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In another area of national and state attention, the attacks on diversity, equity and inclusion programs at many state colleges and universities shouldn't affect Baylor's efforts in expanding awareness and study of underrepresented groups, Livingstone said.

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Not sure what Baylor means with this. If you dig deep into the bowels of DEI, in some institutions, it is in itself an attack on fairness, equality, and equality of opportunity.

Eliminating it is not an attack, but progress.

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You mean you're not on the "use racism to eliminate racism" train? You heathen. You must not love Jesus.