DioNoZeus said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ShooterTX said:

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The real crime was the idiots who declared it eradicated in 2000.
There have been cases in America almost every year since then.
No disease will ever be truly eradicated via vaccines... it's impossible.

I'm sure the proclamation was politically motivated. They knew cases would occur, so they just wanted to beat the Amish types over the head with the "you brought it back" nonsense.

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Smallpox says hello

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Interesting the only one we were ever successful at eradicating as a species

[last naturally occurring case was diagnosed in October 1977, and the World Health Organization (WHO) certified the global eradication of the disease in 1980, making smallpox the only human disease to have been eradicated to date.]

Smallpox was in the human population for ~10,000 years...it never mutated to a lesser form.

It killed 300+ million people in the 20th century alone.

— Radical Centrist,wrathful tantric deity🇺🇦🇹🇼🎗️ (@RadCentrism) September 24, 2021

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We also haven't had a case of polio in the US since 1979 because of vaccination.

Although this outbreak in Texas primarily involves a religious community that refuses vaccination, there have been other outbreaks in communities with high rates of vaccine hesitancy (for example, the outbreak in Southern California in 2014-15 linked to Disneyland):

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6406a5.htm/mm6406a5.htm

Although cases typically originate from immigrants who are exposed abroad and bring the virus to the US, if enough people are vaccinated here to maintain herd immunity, we wouldn't have outbreaks and it would remain eradicated in the US.

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So….3rd world immigrants and strange outside the mainstream religious groups (Mennonites, Amish, Hasidic Jews)

Doing the job of keeping contagious diseases going that normal Americans won't….

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You conveniently left out the vaccine hesitant people…

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Valley hesitant people are protected by the herd.

Real issue is that we keep letting un vaxxed people into our country. Close the borders. Only come in with a passport and up to date shots.

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You aren't protected by the herd if too many people aren't vaccinated, hence the outbreaks here.

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/measles-outbreak

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That's because we're a border state Einstein.

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What does being a border state have to do with anything. We are talking about outbreaks among Americans. Again, if enough citizens are vaccinated, everyone would be protected by herd immunity. Even if the boarder is shut down completely, outbreaks can still occur if Americans who travel abroad who aren't vaccinated bring it back to communities that are under vaccinated.

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A border state means the star is on the border. Texas is a border state. It is on the southern border of the United Staes. Millions of illegal aliens crosses into the United States from the southern border. Many of these were unvaccinated children. Because of proximity (that means "close to") many illegal immigrants settle in border states. Illegals spread disease because they're not vaccinated..

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Yes, I understand what a boarder state is. How many people in this current outbreak or in the Disneyland outbreak in California in 2014-15 are/were illegal?

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The Disneyland outbreak likely was caused by looney California granolas - it's been memory-holed that Democrats were anti-vax before Trump's vaccines in 2020 led by the crazy Jenny McCarthy and others. There was a huge anti-Big Pharma, anti-vax movement in the 2010s where parents were not getting there kids vaccinated due to the autism concern. It's been memory-holed and the regressives created this bogeyman of all of these anti-vax Trump supporters (missing the irony Trump facilitated the vaccine development).

Yes, illegals are driving the outbreakss:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/wr/mm7319a1.htm

Of course illegals are responsible. Same with outbreaks of TB and other diseases this country had not experienced in decades.

That's what happens when we have a fake president (stolen election) who flings the doors wide open & roles out the red carpet for every criminal, gang banger, mental case, @ malcontent the rest of the world can send our way.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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DioNoZeus said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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DioNoZeus said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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DioNoZeus said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ShooterTX said:

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The real crime was the idiots who declared it eradicated in 2000.
There have been cases in America almost every year since then.
No disease will ever be truly eradicated via vaccines... it's impossible.

I'm sure the proclamation was politically motivated. They knew cases would occur, so they just wanted to beat the Amish types over the head with the "you brought it back" nonsense.

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Smallpox says hello

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Interesting the only one we were ever successful at eradicating as a species

[last naturally occurring case was diagnosed in October 1977, and the World Health Organization (WHO) certified the global eradication of the disease in 1980, making smallpox the only human disease to have been eradicated to date.]

Smallpox was in the human population for ~10,000 years...it never mutated to a lesser form.

It killed 300+ million people in the 20th century alone.

— Radical Centrist,wrathful tantric deity🇺🇦🇹🇼🎗️ (@RadCentrism) September 24, 2021

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We also haven't had a case of polio in the US since 1979 because of vaccination.

Although this outbreak in Texas primarily involves a religious community that refuses vaccination, there have been other outbreaks in communities with high rates of vaccine hesitancy (for example, the outbreak in Southern California in 2014-15 linked to Disneyland):

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6406a5.htm/mm6406a5.htm

Although cases typically originate from immigrants who are exposed abroad and bring the virus to the US, if enough people are vaccinated here to maintain herd immunity, we wouldn't have outbreaks and it would remain eradicated in the US.

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So….3rd world immigrants and strange outside the mainstream religious groups (Mennonites, Amish, Hasidic Jews)

Doing the job of keeping contagious diseases going that normal Americans won't….

---

You conveniently left out the vaccine hesitant people…

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Valley hesitant people are protected by the herd.

Real issue is that we keep letting un vaxxed people into our country. Close the borders. Only come in with a passport and up to date shots.

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You aren't protected by the herd if too many people aren't vaccinated, hence the outbreaks here.

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/measles-outbreak

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That's because we're a border state Einstein.

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What does being a border state have to do with anything. We are talking about outbreaks among Americans. Again, if enough citizens are vaccinated, everyone would be protected by herd immunity. Even if the boarder is shut down completely, outbreaks can still occur if Americans who travel abroad who aren't vaccinated bring it back to communities that are under vaccinated.

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A border state means the star is on the border. Texas is a border state. It is on the southern border of the United Staes. Millions of illegal aliens crosses into the United States from the southern border. Many of these were unvaccinated children. Because of proximity (that means "close to") many illegal immigrants settle in border states. Illegals spread disease because they're not vaccinated..

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Yes, I understand what a boarder state is. How many people in this current outbreak or in the Disneyland outbreak in California in 2014-15 are/were illegal?

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The Disneyland outbreak likely was caused by looney California granolas - it's been memory-holed that Democrats were anti-vax before 2020 led by the crazy Jenny McCarthy and others.

Yes, illegals are driving the outbreakss:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/wr/mm7319a1.htm

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Why does the political party of the people refusing vaccination matter? We agree that unvaccinated immigrants are bringing measles to this country. But if people here were vaccinated, the disease would be limited to those immigrants and wouldn't spread to our citizens, regardless of party/ideological affiliation. I'm not sure why this is such a difficult concept for you guys.

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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DioNoZeus said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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DioNoZeus said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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ShooterTX said:

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The real crime was the idiots who declared it eradicated in 2000.
There have been cases in America almost every year since then.
No disease will ever be truly eradicated via vaccines... it's impossible.

I'm sure the proclamation was politically motivated. They knew cases would occur, so they just wanted to beat the Amish types over the head with the "you brought it back" nonsense.

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Smallpox says hello

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Interesting the only one we were ever successful at eradicating as a species

[last naturally occurring case was diagnosed in October 1977, and the World Health Organization (WHO) certified the global eradication of the disease in 1980, making smallpox the only human disease to have been eradicated to date.]

Smallpox was in the human population for ~10,000 years...it never mutated to a lesser form.

It killed 300+ million people in the 20th century alone.

— Radical Centrist,wrathful tantric deity🇺🇦🇹🇼🎗️ (@RadCentrism) September 24, 2021

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We also haven't had a case of polio in the US since 1979 because of vaccination.

Although this outbreak in Texas primarily involves a religious community that refuses vaccination, there have been other outbreaks in communities with high rates of vaccine hesitancy (for example, the outbreak in Southern California in 2014-15 linked to Disneyland):

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6406a5.htm/mm6406a5.htm

Although cases typically originate from immigrants who are exposed abroad and bring the virus to the US, if enough people are vaccinated here to maintain herd immunity, we wouldn't have outbreaks and it would remain eradicated in the US.

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So….3rd world immigrants and strange outside the mainstream religious groups (Mennonites, Amish, Hasidic Jews)

Doing the job of keeping contagious diseases going that normal Americans won't….

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You conveniently left out the vaccine hesitant people…

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Valley hesitant people are protected by the herd.

Real issue is that we keep letting un vaxxed people into our country. Close the borders. Only come in with a passport and up to date shots.

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You aren't protected by the herd if too many people aren't vaccinated, hence the outbreaks here.

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/measles-outbreak

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That's because we're a border state Einstein.

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What does being a border state have to do with anything. We are talking about outbreaks among Americans. Again, if enough citizens are vaccinated, everyone would be protected by herd immunity. Even if the boarder is shut down completely, outbreaks can still occur if Americans who travel abroad who aren't vaccinated bring it back to communities that are under vaccinated.

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A border state means the star is on the border. Texas is a border state. It is on the southern border of the United Staes. Millions of illegal aliens crosses into the United States from the southern border. Many of these were unvaccinated children. Because of proximity (that means "close to") many illegal immigrants settle in border states. Illegals spread disease because they're not vaccinated..

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Yes, I understand what a boarder state is. How many people in this current outbreak or in the Disneyland outbreak in California in 2014-15 are/were illegal?

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The Disneyland outbreak likely was caused by looney California granolas - it's been memory-holed that Democrats were anti-vax before 2020 led by the crazy Jenny McCarthy and others.

Yes, illegals are driving the outbreakss:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/wr/mm7319a1.htm

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Why does the political party of the people refusing vaccination matter. We agree that unvaccinated immigrants are bringing measles to this country. But if people here were vaccinated, the disease would be limited to those immigrants and wouldn't spread to our citizens, regardless of party/ideological affiliation. I'm not sure why this is such a difficult concept for you guys.

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That's a great question. The anti-vax MAGA bogeyman created by the left has always been a mystery to me. In the usually lack of self-awareness and irony, mostly the "my body my choice" crowd support vaccine mandates. There is a reason all of these measles outbreak stories are being pushed by the left-wing media and regressives. Every measles outbreak story posted online is by regressives ... it has never made sense to make it political, but to regressives everything is political as it is a religion to them.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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DioNoZeus said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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DioNoZeus said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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DioNoZeus said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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DioNoZeus said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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DioNoZeus said:

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ShooterTX said:

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The real crime was the idiots who declared it eradicated in 2000.
There have been cases in America almost every year since then.
No disease will ever be truly eradicated via vaccines... it's impossible.

I'm sure the proclamation was politically motivated. They knew cases would occur, so they just wanted to beat the Amish types over the head with the "you brought it back" nonsense.

---

Smallpox says hello

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Interesting the only one we were ever successful at eradicating as a species

[last naturally occurring case was diagnosed in October 1977, and the World Health Organization (WHO) certified the global eradication of the disease in 1980, making smallpox the only human disease to have been eradicated to date.]

Smallpox was in the human population for ~10,000 years...it never mutated to a lesser form.

It killed 300+ million people in the 20th century alone.

— Radical Centrist,wrathful tantric deity🇺🇦🇹🇼🎗️ (@RadCentrism) September 24, 2021

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We also haven't had a case of polio in the US since 1979 because of vaccination.

Although this outbreak in Texas primarily involves a religious community that refuses vaccination, there have been other outbreaks in communities with high rates of vaccine hesitancy (for example, the outbreak in Southern California in 2014-15 linked to Disneyland):

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6406a5.htm/mm6406a5.htm

Although cases typically originate from immigrants who are exposed abroad and bring the virus to the US, if enough people are vaccinated here to maintain herd immunity, we wouldn't have outbreaks and it would remain eradicated in the US.

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So….3rd world immigrants and strange outside the mainstream religious groups (Mennonites, Amish, Hasidic Jews)

Doing the job of keeping contagious diseases going that normal Americans won't….

---

You conveniently left out the vaccine hesitant people…

---

Valley hesitant people are protected by the herd.

Real issue is that we keep letting un vaxxed people into our country. Close the borders. Only come in with a passport and up to date shots.

---

You aren't protected by the herd if too many people aren't vaccinated, hence the outbreaks here.

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/measles-outbreak

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That's because we're a border state Einstein.

---

What does being a border state have to do with anything. We are talking about outbreaks among Americans. Again, if enough citizens are vaccinated, everyone would be protected by herd immunity. Even if the boarder is shut down completely, outbreaks can still occur if Americans who travel abroad who aren't vaccinated bring it back to communities that are under vaccinated.

---

A border state means the star is on the border. Texas is a border state. It is on the southern border of the United Staes. Millions of illegal aliens crosses into the United States from the southern border. Many of these were unvaccinated children. Because of proximity (that means "close to") many illegal immigrants settle in border states. Illegals spread disease because they're not vaccinated..

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Yes, I understand what a boarder state is. How many people in this current outbreak or in the Disneyland outbreak in California in 2014-15 are/were illegal?

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The Disneyland outbreak likely was caused by looney California granolas - it's been memory-holed that Democrats were anti-vax before 2020 led by the crazy Jenny McCarthy and others.

Yes, illegals are driving the outbreakss:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/wr/mm7319a1.htm

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Why does the political party of the people refusing vaccination matter. We agree that unvaccinated immigrants are bringing measles to this country. But if people here were vaccinated, the disease would be limited to those immigrants and wouldn't spread to our citizens, regardless of party/ideological affiliation. I'm not sure why this is such a difficult concept for you guys.

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That's a great question. The anti-vax MAGA bogeyman created by the left has always been a mystery to me. In the usually lack of self-awareness and irony, mostly the "my body my choice" crowd support vaccine mandates. There is a reason all of these measles outbreak stories are being pushed by the left-wing media and regressives. Every measles outbreak story posted online is by regressives ... it has never made sense to make it political, but to regressives everything is political as it is a religion to them.

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This isn't a story pushed by the left wing media because of MAGA antivaxxers. It's a story because it's an outbreak of an extremely communicable disease that had been eliminated in this country when we had better MMR vaccination rates. It's being covered now just as it was in 2014-15 when the granola crew had its outbreak.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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DioNoZeus said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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DioNoZeus said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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DioNoZeus said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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DioNoZeus said:

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ShooterTX said:

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The real crime was the idiots who declared it eradicated in 2000.
There have been cases in America almost every year since then.
No disease will ever be truly eradicated via vaccines... it's impossible.

I'm sure the proclamation was politically motivated. They knew cases would occur, so they just wanted to beat the Amish types over the head with the "you brought it back" nonsense.

---

Smallpox says hello

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Interesting the only one we were ever successful at eradicating as a species

[last naturally occurring case was diagnosed in October 1977, and the World Health Organization (WHO) certified the global eradication of the disease in 1980, making smallpox the only human disease to have been eradicated to date.]

Smallpox was in the human population for ~10,000 years...it never mutated to a lesser form.

It killed 300+ million people in the 20th century alone.

— Radical Centrist,wrathful tantric deity🇺🇦🇹🇼🎗️ (@RadCentrism) September 24, 2021

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We also haven't had a case of polio in the US since 1979 because of vaccination.

Although this outbreak in Texas primarily involves a religious community that refuses vaccination, there have been other outbreaks in communities with high rates of vaccine hesitancy (for example, the outbreak in Southern California in 2014-15 linked to Disneyland):

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6406a5.htm/mm6406a5.htm

Although cases typically originate from immigrants who are exposed abroad and bring the virus to the US, if enough people are vaccinated here to maintain herd immunity, we wouldn't have outbreaks and it would remain eradicated in the US.

---

So….3rd world immigrants and strange outside the mainstream religious groups (Mennonites, Amish, Hasidic Jews)

Doing the job of keeping contagious diseases going that normal Americans won't….

---

You conveniently left out the vaccine hesitant people…

---

Valley hesitant people are protected by the herd.

Real issue is that we keep letting un vaxxed people into our country. Close the borders. Only come in with a passport and up to date shots.

---

You aren't protected by the herd if too many people aren't vaccinated, hence the outbreaks here.

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/measles-outbreak

---

That's because we're a border state Einstein.

---

What does being a border state have to do with anything. We are talking about outbreaks among Americans. Again, if enough citizens are vaccinated, everyone would be protected by herd immunity. Even if the boarder is shut down completely, outbreaks can still occur if Americans who travel abroad who aren't vaccinated bring it back to communities that are under vaccinated.

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A border state means the star is on the border. Texas is a border state. It is on the southern border of the United Staes. Millions of illegal aliens crosses into the United States from the southern border. Many of these were unvaccinated children. Because of proximity (that means "close to") many illegal immigrants settle in border states. Illegals spread disease because they're not vaccinated..

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Yes, I understand what a boarder state is. How many people in this current outbreak or in the Disneyland outbreak in California in 2014-15 are/were illegal?

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The Disneyland outbreak likely was caused by looney California granolas - it's been memory-holed that Democrats were anti-vax before Trump's vaccines in 2020 led by the crazy Jenny McCarthy and others. There was a huge anti-Big Pharma, anti-vax movement in the 2010s where parents were not getting there kids vaccinated due to the autism concern. It's been memory-holed and the regressives created this bogeyman of all of these anti-vax Trump supporters (missing the irony Trump facilitated the vaccine development).

Yes, illegals are driving the outbreakss:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/wr/mm7319a1.htm

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It seems that there was a certain Trial Bar supporting, environmentalist Plaintiff attorney who founded Children's Health Defense who was part of this movement. You guys seem to be memory holing him too.

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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DioNoZeus said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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DioNoZeus said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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DioNoZeus said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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DioNoZeus said:

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ShooterTX said:

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The real crime was the idiots who declared it eradicated in 2000.
There have been cases in America almost every year since then.
No disease will ever be truly eradicated via vaccines... it's impossible.

I'm sure the proclamation was politically motivated. They knew cases would occur, so they just wanted to beat the Amish types over the head with the "you brought it back" nonsense.

---

Smallpox says hello

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Interesting the only one we were ever successful at eradicating as a species

[last naturally occurring case was diagnosed in October 1977, and the World Health Organization (WHO) certified the global eradication of the disease in 1980, making smallpox the only human disease to have been eradicated to date.]

Smallpox was in the human population for ~10,000 years...it never mutated to a lesser form.

It killed 300+ million people in the 20th century alone.

— Radical Centrist,wrathful tantric deity🇺🇦🇹🇼🎗️ (@RadCentrism) September 24, 2021

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We also haven't had a case of polio in the US since 1979 because of vaccination.

Although this outbreak in Texas primarily involves a religious community that refuses vaccination, there have been other outbreaks in communities with high rates of vaccine hesitancy (for example, the outbreak in Southern California in 2014-15 linked to Disneyland):

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6406a5.htm/mm6406a5.htm

Although cases typically originate from immigrants who are exposed abroad and bring the virus to the US, if enough people are vaccinated here to maintain herd immunity, we wouldn't have outbreaks and it would remain eradicated in the US.

---

So….3rd world immigrants and strange outside the mainstream religious groups (Mennonites, Amish, Hasidic Jews)

Doing the job of keeping contagious diseases going that normal Americans won't….

---

You conveniently left out the vaccine hesitant people…

---

Valley hesitant people are protected by the herd.

Real issue is that we keep letting un vaxxed people into our country. Close the borders. Only come in with a passport and up to date shots.

---

You aren't protected by the herd if too many people aren't vaccinated, hence the outbreaks here.

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/measles-outbreak

---

That's because we're a border state Einstein.

---

What does being a border state have to do with anything. We are talking about outbreaks among Americans. Again, if enough citizens are vaccinated, everyone would be protected by herd immunity. Even if the boarder is shut down completely, outbreaks can still occur if Americans who travel abroad who aren't vaccinated bring it back to communities that are under vaccinated.

---

A border state means the star is on the border. Texas is a border state. It is on the southern border of the United Staes. Millions of illegal aliens crosses into the United States from the southern border. Many of these were unvaccinated children. Because of proximity (that means "close to") many illegal immigrants settle in border states. Illegals spread disease because they're not vaccinated..

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Yes, I understand what a boarder state is. How many people in this current outbreak or in the Disneyland outbreak in California in 2014-15 are/were illegal?

---

The Disneyland outbreak likely was caused by looney California granolas - it's been memory-holed that Democrats were anti-vax before 2020 led by the crazy Jenny McCarthy and others.

Yes, illegals are driving the outbreakss:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/wr/mm7319a1.htm

---

Why does the political party of the people refusing vaccination matter. We agree that unvaccinated immigrants are bringing measles to this country. But if people here were vaccinated, the disease would be limited to those immigrants and wouldn't spread to our citizens, regardless of party/ideological affiliation. I'm not sure why this is such a difficult concept for you guys.

---

That's a great question. The anti-vax MAGA bogeyman created by the left has always been a mystery to me. In the usually lack of self-awareness and irony, mostly the "my body my choice" crowd support vaccine mandates. There is a reason all of these measles outbreak stories are being pushed by the left-wing media and regressives. Every measles outbreak story posted online is by regressives ... it has never made sense to make it political, but to regressives everything is political as it is a religion to them.

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This isn't a story pushed by the left wing media because of MAGA antivaxxers. It's a story because it's an outbreak of an extremely communicable disease that had been eliminated in this country when we had better MMR vaccination rates. It's being covered now just as it was in 2014-15 when the granola crew had its outbreak.

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Maga wasn't anti vax. Maga and many non Maga were anti forced, brand new, barely tested, not needed by the healthy, take it or get fired vax mandates.

As for the measles outbreak, has been happening for many years. It's a not a big issue for the herd, the unvaxxed understand there are risks. They have to deal with it. Now, given the Covids debacle, you can bet we are going to have more unvaxxed because big pharma is no longer trusted.

Last, there are tens of millions unvetted illegals. Americans deserve better than having a porous border where we encourage and continue to let in unvetted and many disease carrying illegals. We absolutely should not have to put up with it. That is why we talk about it as being a valid concern. Americans' freedoms are reduced due to illegal behavior.

When they come in to the country the correct way. With the tighter border, the measles outbreaks will eventually decrease. Just wait.

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Redbrickbear said:

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DioNoZeus said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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DioNoZeus said:

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ShooterTX said:

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The real crime was the idiots who declared it eradicated in 2000.
There have been cases in America almost every year since then.
No disease will ever be truly eradicated via vaccines... it's impossible.

I'm sure the proclamation was politically motivated. They knew cases would occur, so they just wanted to beat the Amish types over the head with the "you brought it back" nonsense.

---

Smallpox says hello

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Interesting the only one we were ever successful at eradicating as a species

[last naturally occurring case was diagnosed in October 1977, and the World Health Organization (WHO) certified the global eradication of the disease in 1980, making smallpox the only human disease to have been eradicated to date.]

Smallpox was in the human population for ~10,000 years...it never mutated to a lesser form.

It killed 300+ million people in the 20th century alone.

— Radical Centrist,wrathful tantric deity🇺🇦🇹🇼🎗️ (@RadCentrism) September 24, 2021

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We also haven't had a case of polio in the US since 1979 because of vaccination.

Although this outbreak in Texas primarily involves a religious community that refuses vaccination, there have been other outbreaks in communities with high rates of vaccine hesitancy (for example, the outbreak in Southern California in 2014-15 linked to Disneyland):

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6406a5.htm/mm6406a5.htm

Although cases typically originate from immigrants who are exposed abroad and bring the virus to the US, if enough people are vaccinated here to maintain herd immunity, we wouldn't have outbreaks and it would remain eradicated in the US.

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So….3rd world immigrants and strange outside the mainstream religious groups (Mennonites, Amish, Hasidic Jews)

Doing the job of keeping contagious diseases going that normal Americans won't….

---

You conveniently left out the vaccine hesitant people…

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Valley hesitant people are protected by the herd.

Real issue is that we keep letting un vaxxed people into our country. Close the borders. Only come in with a passport and up to date shots.

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You aren't protected by the herd if too many people aren't vaccinated, hence the outbreaks here.

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/measles-outbreak

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That's because we're a border state Einstein.

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What does being a border state have to do with anything. We are talking about outbreaks among Americans. Again, if enough citizens are vaccinated, everyone would be protected by herd immunity. Even if the boarder is shut down completely, outbreaks can still occur if Americans who travel abroad who aren't vaccinated bring it back to communities that are under vaccinated.

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A border state means the star is on the border. Texas is a border state. It is on the southern border of the United Staes. Millions of illegal aliens crosses into the United States from the southern border. Many of these were unvaccinated children. Because of proximity (that means "close to") many illegal immigrants settle in border states. Illegals spread disease because they're not vaccinated..

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Yes, I understand what a boarder state is. How many people in this current outbreak or in the Disneyland outbreak in California in 2014-15 are/were illegal?

---

The Disneyland outbreak likely was caused by looney California granolas - it's been memory-holed that Democrats were anti-vax before 2020 led by the crazy Jenny McCarthy and others.

Yes, illegals are driving the outbreakss:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/wr/mm7319a1.htm

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Why does the political party of the people refusing vaccination matter. We agree that unvaccinated immigrants are bringing measles to this country. But if people here were vaccinated, the disease would be limited to those immigrants and wouldn't spread to our citizens, regardless of party/ideological affiliation. I'm not sure why this is such a difficult concept for you guys.

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That's a great question. The anti-vax MAGA bogeyman created by the left has always been a mystery to me. In the usually lack of self-awareness and irony, mostly the "my body my choice" crowd support vaccine mandates. There is a reason all of these measles outbreak stories are being pushed by the left-wing media and regressives. Every measles outbreak story posted online is by regressives ... it has never made sense to make it political, but to regressives everything is political as it is a religion to them.

---

This isn't a story pushed by the left wing media because of MAGA antivaxxers. It's a story because it's an outbreak of an extremely communicable disease that had been eliminated in this country when we had better MMR vaccination rates. It's being covered now just as it was in 2014-15 when the granola crew had its outbreak.

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Maga wasn't anti vax. Maga and many non Maga were anti forced, brand new, barely tested, not needed by the healthy, take it or get fired vax mandates.

As for the measles outbreak, has been happening for many years. It's a not a big issue for the herd, the unvaxxed understand there are risks. They have to deal with it. Now, given the Covids debacle, you can bet we are going to have more unvaxxed because big pharma is no longer trusted.

Last, there are tens of millions unvetted illegals. Americans deserve better than having a porous border where we encourage and continue to let in unvetted and many disease carrying illegals. We absolutely should not have to put up with it. That is why we talk about it as being a valid concern. Americans' freedoms are reduced due to illegal behavior.

When they come in to the country the correct way. With the tighter border, the measles outbreaks will eventually decrease. Just wait.

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it's not a big deal when a previously healthy child dies from a preventable disease? There are two separate issues at play here. Although these cases are usually brought to this country by unvaccinated immigrants, they wouldn't spread to our native population if we had full herd immunity, which is waning because too many people are not getting vaccinated. Additionally, even if you had no immigration to this country, if unvaccinated people travel to a place where measles is present, they can bring it back and cause outbreaks in under vaccinated communities. Even if you fix the political issue you're promoting, there is still the public health issue that people are increasingly ignoring.

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ShooterTX said:

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The real crime was the idiots who declared it eradicated in 2000.
There have been cases in America almost every year since then.
No disease will ever be truly eradicated via vaccines... it's impossible.

I'm sure the proclamation was politically motivated. They knew cases would occur, so they just wanted to beat the Amish types over the head with the "you brought it back" nonsense.

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Smallpox says hello

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Interesting the only one we were ever successful at eradicating as a species

[last naturally occurring case was diagnosed in October 1977, and the World Health Organization (WHO) certified the global eradication of the disease in 1980, making smallpox the only human disease to have been eradicated to date.]

Smallpox was in the human population for ~10,000 years...it never mutated to a lesser form.

It killed 300+ million people in the 20th century alone.

— Radical Centrist,wrathful tantric deity🇺🇦🇹🇼🎗️ (@RadCentrism) September 24, 2021

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We also haven't had a case of polio in the US since 1979 because of vaccination.

Although this outbreak in Texas primarily involves a religious community that refuses vaccination, there have been other outbreaks in communities with high rates of vaccine hesitancy (for example, the outbreak in Southern California in 2014-15 linked to Disneyland):

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6406a5.htm/mm6406a5.htm

Although cases typically originate from immigrants who are exposed abroad and bring the virus to the US, if enough people are vaccinated here to maintain herd immunity, we wouldn't have outbreaks and it would remain eradicated in the US.

---

So….3rd world immigrants and strange outside the mainstream religious groups (Mennonites, Amish, Hasidic Jews)

Doing the job of keeping contagious diseases going that normal Americans won't….

---

You conveniently left out the vaccine hesitant people…

---

Valley hesitant people are protected by the herd.

Real issue is that we keep letting un vaxxed people into our country. Close the borders. Only come in with a passport and up to date shots.

---

You aren't protected by the herd if too many people aren't vaccinated, hence the outbreaks here.

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/measles-outbreak

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That's because we're a border state Einstein.

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What does being a border state have to do with anything. We are talking about outbreaks among Americans. Again, if enough citizens are vaccinated, everyone would be protected by herd immunity. Even if the boarder is shut down completely, outbreaks can still occur if Americans who travel abroad who aren't vaccinated bring it back to communities that are under vaccinated.

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A border state means the star is on the border. Texas is a border state. It is on the southern border of the United Staes. Millions of illegal aliens crosses into the United States from the southern border. Many of these were unvaccinated children. Because of proximity (that means "close to") many illegal immigrants settle in border states. Illegals spread disease because they're not vaccinated..

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Yes, I understand what a boarder state is. How many people in this current outbreak or in the Disneyland outbreak in California in 2014-15 are/were illegal?

---

The Disneyland outbreak likely was caused by looney California granolas - it's been memory-holed that Democrats were anti-vax before 2020 led by the crazy Jenny McCarthy and others.

Yes, illegals are driving the outbreakss:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/wr/mm7319a1.htm

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Why does the political party of the people refusing vaccination matter. We agree that unvaccinated immigrants are bringing measles to this country. But if people here were vaccinated, the disease would be limited to those immigrants and wouldn't spread to our citizens, regardless of party/ideological affiliation. I'm not sure why this is such a difficult concept for you guys.

---

That's a great question. The anti-vax MAGA bogeyman created by the left has always been a mystery to me. In the usually lack of self-awareness and irony, mostly the "my body my choice" crowd support vaccine mandates. There is a reason all of these measles outbreak stories are being pushed by the left-wing media and regressives. Every measles outbreak story posted online is by regressives ... it has never made sense to make it political, but to regressives everything is political as it is a religion to them.

---

This isn't a story pushed by the left wing media because of MAGA antivaxxers. It's a story because it's an outbreak of an extremely communicable disease that had been eliminated in this country when we had better MMR vaccination rates. It's being covered now just as it was in 2014-15 when the granola crew had its outbreak.

---

Maga wasn't anti vax. Maga and many non Maga were anti forced, brand new, barely tested, not needed by the healthy, take it or get fired vax mandates.

As for the measles outbreak, has been happening for many years. It's a not a big issue for the herd, the unvaxxed understand there are risks. They have to deal with it. Now, given the Covids debacle, you can bet we are going to have more unvaxxed because big pharma is no longer trusted.

Last, there are tens of millions unvetted illegals. Americans deserve better than having a porous border where we encourage and continue to let in unvetted and many disease carrying illegals. We absolutely should not have to put up with it. That is why we talk about it as being a valid concern. Americans' freedoms are reduced due to illegal behavior.

When they come in to the country the correct way. With the tighter border, the measles outbreaks will eventually decrease. Just wait.

---

it's not a big deal when a previously healthy child dies from a preventable disease? There are two separate issues at play here. Although these cases are usually brought to this country by unvaccinated immigrants, they wouldn't spread to our native population if we had full herd immunity, which is waning because too many people are not getting vaccinated. Additionally, even if you had no immigration to this country, if unvaccinated people travel to a place where measles is present, they can bring it back and cause outbreaks in under vaccinated communities. Even if you fix the political issue you're promoting, there is still the public health issue that people are increasingly ignoring.

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Of course a couple of kids dying is a big deal individually.
But religious freedom and liberty are also big deals and are of the core principles of our nation.
So addressing illegal immigration is one BIG part of the solution here at home. If we'd done that in the first place, we wouldn't likely even have had this discussion.

Now getting people to trust big pharma is a much bigger question and problem.

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Redbrickbear said:

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The real crime was the idiots who declared it eradicated in 2000.
There have been cases in America almost every year since then.
No disease will ever be truly eradicated via vaccines... it's impossible.

I'm sure the proclamation was politically motivated. They knew cases would occur, so they just wanted to beat the Amish types over the head with the "you brought it back" nonsense.

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Smallpox says hello

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Interesting the only one we were ever successful at eradicating as a species

[last naturally occurring case was diagnosed in October 1977, and the World Health Organization (WHO) certified the global eradication of the disease in 1980, making smallpox the only human disease to have been eradicated to date.]

Smallpox was in the human population for ~10,000 years...it never mutated to a lesser form.

It killed 300+ million people in the 20th century alone.

— Radical Centrist,wrathful tantric deity🇺🇦🇹🇼🎗️ (@RadCentrism) September 24, 2021

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We also haven't had a case of polio in the US since 1979 because of vaccination.

Although this outbreak in Texas primarily involves a religious community that refuses vaccination, there have been other outbreaks in communities with high rates of vaccine hesitancy (for example, the outbreak in Southern California in 2014-15 linked to Disneyland):

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6406a5.htm/mm6406a5.htm

Although cases typically originate from immigrants who are exposed abroad and bring the virus to the US, if enough people are vaccinated here to maintain herd immunity, we wouldn't have outbreaks and it would remain eradicated in the US.

---

So….3rd world immigrants and strange outside the mainstream religious groups (Mennonites, Amish, Hasidic Jews)

Doing the job of keeping contagious diseases going that normal Americans won't….

---

You conveniently left out the vaccine hesitant people…

---

Valley hesitant people are protected by the herd.

Real issue is that we keep letting un vaxxed people into our country. Close the borders. Only come in with a passport and up to date shots.

---

You aren't protected by the herd if too many people aren't vaccinated, hence the outbreaks here.

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/measles-outbreak

---

That's because we're a border state Einstein.

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What does being a border state have to do with anything. We are talking about outbreaks among Americans. Again, if enough citizens are vaccinated, everyone would be protected by herd immunity. Even if the boarder is shut down completely, outbreaks can still occur if Americans who travel abroad who aren't vaccinated bring it back to communities that are under vaccinated.

---

A border state means the star is on the border. Texas is a border state. It is on the southern border of the United Staes. Millions of illegal aliens crosses into the United States from the southern border. Many of these were unvaccinated children. Because of proximity (that means "close to") many illegal immigrants settle in border states. Illegals spread disease because they're not vaccinated..

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Yes, I understand what a boarder state is. How many people in this current outbreak or in the Disneyland outbreak in California in 2014-15 are/were illegal?

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The Disneyland outbreak likely was caused by looney California granolas - it's been memory-holed that Democrats were anti-vax before Trump's vaccines in 2020 led by the crazy Jenny McCarthy and others. There was a huge anti-Big Pharma, anti-vax movement in the 2010s where parents were not getting there kids vaccinated due to the autism concern. It's been memory-holed and the regressives created this bogeyman of all of these anti-vax Trump supporters (missing the irony Trump facilitated the vaccine development).

Yes, illegals are driving the outbreakss:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/wr/mm7319a1.htm

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It seems that there was a certain Trial Bar supporting, environmentalist Plaintiff attorney who founded Children's Health Defense who was part of this movement. You guys seem to be memory holing him too.

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Democrat royalty.

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Redbrickbear said:

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DioNoZeus said:

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ShooterTX said:

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The real crime was the idiots who declared it eradicated in 2000.
There have been cases in America almost every year since then.
No disease will ever be truly eradicated via vaccines... it's impossible.

I'm sure the proclamation was politically motivated. They knew cases would occur, so they just wanted to beat the Amish types over the head with the "you brought it back" nonsense.

---

Smallpox says hello

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Interesting the only one we were ever successful at eradicating as a species

[last naturally occurring case was diagnosed in October 1977, and the World Health Organization (WHO) certified the global eradication of the disease in 1980, making smallpox the only human disease to have been eradicated to date.]

Smallpox was in the human population for ~10,000 years...it never mutated to a lesser form.

It killed 300+ million people in the 20th century alone.

— Radical Centrist,wrathful tantric deity🇺🇦🇹🇼🎗️ (@RadCentrism) September 24, 2021

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We also haven't had a case of polio in the US since 1979 because of vaccination.

Although this outbreak in Texas primarily involves a religious community that refuses vaccination, there have been other outbreaks in communities with high rates of vaccine hesitancy (for example, the outbreak in Southern California in 2014-15 linked to Disneyland):

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6406a5.htm/mm6406a5.htm

Although cases typically originate from immigrants who are exposed abroad and bring the virus to the US, if enough people are vaccinated here to maintain herd immunity, we wouldn't have outbreaks and it would remain eradicated in the US.

---

So….3rd world immigrants and strange outside the mainstream religious groups (Mennonites, Amish, Hasidic Jews)

Doing the job of keeping contagious diseases going that normal Americans won't….

---

You conveniently left out the vaccine hesitant people…

---

Valley hesitant people are protected by the herd.

Real issue is that we keep letting un vaxxed people into our country. Close the borders. Only come in with a passport and up to date shots.

---

You aren't protected by the herd if too many people aren't vaccinated, hence the outbreaks here.

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/measles-outbreak

---

That's because we're a border state Einstein.

---

What does being a border state have to do with anything. We are talking about outbreaks among Americans. Again, if enough citizens are vaccinated, everyone would be protected by herd immunity. Even if the boarder is shut down completely, outbreaks can still occur if Americans who travel abroad who aren't vaccinated bring it back to communities that are under vaccinated.

---

A border state means the star is on the border. Texas is a border state. It is on the southern border of the United Staes. Millions of illegal aliens crosses into the United States from the southern border. Many of these were unvaccinated children. Because of proximity (that means "close to") many illegal immigrants settle in border states. Illegals spread disease because they're not vaccinated..

---

Yes, I understand what a boarder state is. How many people in this current outbreak or in the Disneyland outbreak in California in 2014-15 are/were illegal?

---

The Disneyland outbreak likely was caused by looney California granolas - it's been memory-holed that Democrats were anti-vax before 2020 led by the crazy Jenny McCarthy and others.

Yes, illegals are driving the outbreakss:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/wr/mm7319a1.htm

---

Why does the political party of the people refusing vaccination matter. We agree that unvaccinated immigrants are bringing measles to this country. But if people here were vaccinated, the disease would be limited to those immigrants and wouldn't spread to our citizens, regardless of party/ideological affiliation. I'm not sure why this is such a difficult concept for you guys.

---

That's a great question. The anti-vax MAGA bogeyman created by the left has always been a mystery to me. In the usually lack of self-awareness and irony, mostly the "my body my choice" crowd support vaccine mandates. There is a reason all of these measles outbreak stories are being pushed by the left-wing media and regressives. Every measles outbreak story posted online is by regressives ... it has never made sense to make it political, but to regressives everything is political as it is a religion to them.

---

This isn't a story pushed by the left wing media because of MAGA antivaxxers. It's a story because it's an outbreak of an extremely communicable disease that had been eliminated in this country when we had better MMR vaccination rates. It's being covered now just as it was in 2014-15 when the granola crew had its outbreak.

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Sure, sure. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe one must be vaccinated to matriculate at a Texas public school ... unless you're an illegal immigrant.

At the end of the day, another reason to oppose illegal immigration.

Harrison Bergeron said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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DioNoZeus said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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DioNoZeus said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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DioNoZeus said:

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ShooterTX said:

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The real crime was the idiots who declared it eradicated in 2000.
There have been cases in America almost every year since then.
No disease will ever be truly eradicated via vaccines... it's impossible.

I'm sure the proclamation was politically motivated. They knew cases would occur, so they just wanted to beat the Amish types over the head with the "you brought it back" nonsense.

---

Smallpox says hello

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Interesting the only one we were ever successful at eradicating as a species

[last naturally occurring case was diagnosed in October 1977, and the World Health Organization (WHO) certified the global eradication of the disease in 1980, making smallpox the only human disease to have been eradicated to date.]

Smallpox was in the human population for ~10,000 years...it never mutated to a lesser form.

It killed 300+ million people in the 20th century alone.

— Radical Centrist,wrathful tantric deity🇺🇦🇹🇼🎗️ (@RadCentrism) September 24, 2021

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We also haven't had a case of polio in the US since 1979 because of vaccination.

Although this outbreak in Texas primarily involves a religious community that refuses vaccination, there have been other outbreaks in communities with high rates of vaccine hesitancy (for example, the outbreak in Southern California in 2014-15 linked to Disneyland):

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6406a5.htm/mm6406a5.htm

Although cases typically originate from immigrants who are exposed abroad and bring the virus to the US, if enough people are vaccinated here to maintain herd immunity, we wouldn't have outbreaks and it would remain eradicated in the US.

---

So….3rd world immigrants and strange outside the mainstream religious groups (Mennonites, Amish, Hasidic Jews)

Doing the job of keeping contagious diseases going that normal Americans won't….

---

You conveniently left out the vaccine hesitant people…

---

Valley hesitant people are protected by the herd.

Real issue is that we keep letting un vaxxed people into our country. Close the borders. Only come in with a passport and up to date shots.

---

You aren't protected by the herd if too many people aren't vaccinated, hence the outbreaks here.

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/measles-outbreak

---

That's because we're a border state Einstein.

---

What does being a border state have to do with anything. We are talking about outbreaks among Americans. Again, if enough citizens are vaccinated, everyone would be protected by herd immunity. Even if the boarder is shut down completely, outbreaks can still occur if Americans who travel abroad who aren't vaccinated bring it back to communities that are under vaccinated.

---

A border state means the star is on the border. Texas is a border state. It is on the southern border of the United Staes. Millions of illegal aliens crosses into the United States from the southern border. Many of these were unvaccinated children. Because of proximity (that means "close to") many illegal immigrants settle in border states. Illegals spread disease because they're not vaccinated..

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Yes, I understand what a boarder state is. How many people in this current outbreak or in the Disneyland outbreak in California in 2014-15 are/were illegal?

---

The Disneyland outbreak likely was caused by looney California granolas - it's been memory-holed that Democrats were anti-vax before 2020 led by the crazy Jenny McCarthy and others.

Yes, illegals are driving the outbreakss:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/wr/mm7319a1.htm

---

Why does the political party of the people refusing vaccination matter. We agree that unvaccinated immigrants are bringing measles to this country. But if people here were vaccinated, the disease would be limited to those immigrants and wouldn't spread to our citizens, regardless of party/ideological affiliation. I'm not sure why this is such a difficult concept for you guys.

---

That's a great question. The anti-vax MAGA bogeyman created by the left has always been a mystery to me. In the usually lack of self-awareness and irony, mostly the "my body my choice" crowd support vaccine mandates. There is a reason all of these measles outbreak stories are being pushed by the left-wing media and regressives. Every measles outbreak story posted online is by regressives ... it has never made sense to make it political, but to regressives everything is political as it is a religion to them.

---

This isn't a story pushed by the left wing media because of MAGA antivaxxers. It's a story because it's an outbreak of an extremely communicable disease that had been eliminated in this country when we had better MMR vaccination rates. It's being covered now just as it was in 2014-15 when the granola crew had its outbreak.

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Sure, sure. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe one must be vaccinated to matriculate at a Texas public school ... unless you're an illegal immigrant.

At the end of the day, another reason to oppose illegal immigration.

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Wrong

https://www.dshs.texas.gov/immunizations/school/exemptions

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Harrison Bergeron said:

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DioNoZeus said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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DioNoZeus said:

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Redbrickbear said:

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DioNoZeus said:

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ShooterTX said:

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The real crime was the idiots who declared it eradicated in 2000.
There have been cases in America almost every year since then.
No disease will ever be truly eradicated via vaccines... it's impossible.

I'm sure the proclamation was politically motivated. They knew cases would occur, so they just wanted to beat the Amish types over the head with the "you brought it back" nonsense.

---

Smallpox says hello

---

Interesting the only one we were ever successful at eradicating as a species

[last naturally occurring case was diagnosed in October 1977, and the World Health Organization (WHO) certified the global eradication of the disease in 1980, making smallpox the only human disease to have been eradicated to date.]

Smallpox was in the human population for ~10,000 years...it never mutated to a lesser form.

It killed 300+ million people in the 20th century alone.

— Radical Centrist,wrathful tantric deity🇺🇦🇹🇼🎗️ (@RadCentrism) September 24, 2021

---

We also haven't had a case of polio in the US since 1979 because of vaccination.

Although this outbreak in Texas primarily involves a religious community that refuses vaccination, there have been other outbreaks in communities with high rates of vaccine hesitancy (for example, the outbreak in Southern California in 2014-15 linked to Disneyland):

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6406a5.htm/mm6406a5.htm

Although cases typically originate from immigrants who are exposed abroad and bring the virus to the US, if enough people are vaccinated here to maintain herd immunity, we wouldn't have outbreaks and it would remain eradicated in the US.

---

So….3rd world immigrants and strange outside the mainstream religious groups (Mennonites, Amish, Hasidic Jews)

Doing the job of keeping contagious diseases going that normal Americans won't….

---

You conveniently left out the vaccine hesitant people…

---

Valley hesitant people are protected by the herd.

Real issue is that we keep letting un vaxxed people into our country. Close the borders. Only come in with a passport and up to date shots.

---

You aren't protected by the herd if too many people aren't vaccinated, hence the outbreaks here.

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/measles-outbreak

---

That's because we're a border state Einstein.

---

What does being a border state have to do with anything. We are talking about outbreaks among Americans. Again, if enough citizens are vaccinated, everyone would be protected by herd immunity. Even if the boarder is shut down completely, outbreaks can still occur if Americans who travel abroad who aren't vaccinated bring it back to communities that are under vaccinated.

---

A border state means the star is on the border. Texas is a border state. It is on the southern border of the United Staes. Millions of illegal aliens crosses into the United States from the southern border. Many of these were unvaccinated children. Because of proximity (that means "close to") many illegal immigrants settle in border states. Illegals spread disease because they're not vaccinated..

---

Yes, I understand what a boarder state is. How many people in this current outbreak or in the Disneyland outbreak in California in 2014-15 are/were illegal?

---

The Disneyland outbreak likely was caused by looney California granolas - it's been memory-holed that Democrats were anti-vax before 2020 led by the crazy Jenny McCarthy and others.

Yes, illegals are driving the outbreakss:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/wr/mm7319a1.htm

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Why does the political party of the people refusing vaccination matter. We agree that unvaccinated immigrants are bringing measles to this country. But if people here were vaccinated, the disease would be limited to those immigrants and wouldn't spread to our citizens, regardless of party/ideological affiliation. I'm not sure why this is such a difficult concept for you guys.

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That's a great question. The anti-vax MAGA bogeyman created by the left has always been a mystery to me. In the usually lack of self-awareness and irony, mostly the "my body my choice" crowd support vaccine mandates. There is a reason all of these measles outbreak stories are being pushed by the left-wing media and regressives. Every measles outbreak story posted online is by regressives ... it has never made sense to make it political, but to regressives everything is political as it is a religion to them.

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This isn't a story pushed by the left wing media because of MAGA antivaxxers. It's a story because it's an outbreak of an extremely communicable disease that had been eliminated in this country when we had better MMR vaccination rates. It's being covered now just as it was in 2014-15 when the granola crew had its outbreak.

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Sure, sure. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe one must be vaccinated to matriculate at a Texas public school ... unless you're an illegal immigrant.

At the end of the day, another reason to oppose illegal immigration.

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Wrong

https://www.dshs.texas.gov/immunizations/school/exemptions

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Thank you.

DioNoZeus said:

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ShooterTX said:

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The real crime was the idiots who declared it eradicated in 2000.
There have been cases in America almost every year since then.
No disease will ever be truly eradicated via vaccines... it's impossible.

I'm sure the proclamation was politically motivated. They knew cases would occur, so they just wanted to beat the Amish types over the head with the "you brought it back" nonsense.

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Smallpox says hello

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Exactly.
Smallpox still exists in Africa and some remote parts of Asia.

Edit: sorry, I was thinking of the Mpox in Africa.

ShooterTX said:

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DioNoZeus said:

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ShooterTX said:

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The real crime was the idiots who declared it eradicated in 2000.
There have been cases in America almost every year since then.
No disease will ever be truly eradicated via vaccines... it's impossible.

I'm sure the proclamation was politically motivated. They knew cases would occur, so they just wanted to beat the Amish types over the head with the "you brought it back" nonsense.

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Smallpox says hello

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Exactly.
Smallpox still exists in Africa and some remote parts of Asia.

Edit: sorry, I was thinking of the Mpox in Africa.

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Freudian slip?

DioNoZeus said:

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ShooterTX said:

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DioNoZeus said:

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ShooterTX said:

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The real crime was the idiots who declared it eradicated in 2000.
There have been cases in America almost every year since then.
No disease will ever be truly eradicated via vaccines... it's impossible.

I'm sure the proclamation was politically motivated. They knew cases would occur, so they just wanted to beat the Amish types over the head with the "you brought it back" nonsense.

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Smallpox says hello

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Exactly.
Smallpox still exists in Africa and some remote parts of Asia.

Edit: sorry, I was thinking of the Mpox in Africa.

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Freudian slip?

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And measles reported today at elementary school in San Antonio suburb, yea.

Sometimes vaccine efficacy is subtle

Sometimes it isn't pic.twitter.com/FPKZRrb7ID

— Neil Stone (@DrNeilStone) February 26, 2025

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/health/measles-texas-vaccine-vaccination-rates-schools-dfw-fort-worth-dallas/287-1c321c7d-d1ff-4326-ae9b-eec5c9100699


These North Texas schools have the lowest measles vaccination rates in the region
The number of measles cases reported in Texas continues to grow. These are the North Texas schools most and least at risk of a breakout infection.

DALLAS A measles case was reported in North Texas on Wednesday, bringing the statewide total of reported measles cases to 125, officials said.

Children ages 5 years old and younger are at the highest risk of serious health complications caused by measles, according to the Centers for Disease Control. State officials on Wednesday said a school-aged child died in Lubbock. The child, whose exact age was not released, was hospitalized last week and tested positive for measles. While one death has been reported, 18 people have been hospitalized in West Texas, officials say. The unvaccinated adult who tested positive for measles in Rockwall County is also hospitalized.

Measles is highly contagious and symptoms usually begin 7 to 14 days after infection, the CDC said. The disease spreads through infected droplets in the air and the virus can remain infectious up to two hours after an infected person leaves.

Measles is "probably the most infectious contagious disease on the planet," said Dr. Suzanne Whitworth, division chief of pediatric infectious diseases at Cook Children's in Fort Worth previously told WFAA. "We know that about 40% of kids under the age of five who get measles are gonna wind up in the hospital, and nobody wants that."

Vaccination is the best defense against measles, according to the CDC. The vaccine to protect against measles is the MMR vaccine, which covers measles, mumps and rubella.

Public and private schools are required to report the percentage of vaccinated children to the Texas Department of Health and Human Services. The department's data shows that 187 public school districts and private schools had a kindergarten measles (MMR) vaccination rate of less than 95% in the 2023-2024 school year. Herd immunity for measles is achieved when 95% of the population is vaccinated, according to the World Health Organization. Herd immunity is achieved when enough community members are immune to a virus so that it inhibits spread.

Of course, kindergarten vaccination rates only tell a portion of the story. Herd immunity is only achieved when the entire community has a vaccination rate of over 95%. Communities with lower vaccination rates are at greater risk of a breakout of measles infections, according to the Johns Hopkins School of Public Health.

Of all public and private North Texas schools, ten private schools had the lowest vaccination rate for measles (the MMR vaccine) last school year:

Mercy Culture Preparatory Academy: 14.29%
Dallas Christian Academy: 25.00%
Collin County Cornerstone Christian Academy: 38.10%
Excellence Academy: 38.46%
Grace Classical Christian Academy: 42.86%
Stonegate Christian Academy: 44.44%
St Anthony School: 46.15%
Cleburne Christian Academy: 50.00%
Victory Christian Academy: 52.38%
Lakeland Christian Academy: 52.63%
About 62 North Texas schools had a 100% vaccination rate among kindergartners in the 2023-2024 school year. Here are the measles vaccination rates for every North Texas school and public school district.

The Texas Department of Health and Human Services also breaks down school-age vaccination rates by county. According to the latest data from the 2023-2024 school year, zero North Texas counties have a kindergarten measles vaccination rate high enough to achieve herd immunity.

Wise County had the lowest kindergarten vaccination rates relative to other North Texas counties, according to Texas Department of Health and Human Services data. Rockwall County, which so far has the only reported measles infection in North Texas, had a kindergarten vaccination rate of 91% during the 2023-2024 school year.

Johnson and Dallas counties had the highest vaccination rate, around 94%.

Statewide, the kindergarten measles vaccination rate has steadily declined, from nearly 97% in 2019 to 94.3% last school year. If you're concerned about your school-age child or loved one becoming infected, Dr. Whitworth reminds families the vaccine has saved countless lives.

"Make sure the parents; vaccines are up to date, make sure the siblings' vaccines are up to date. If grandparents are keeping those kids, make sure the grandparents' vaccines are up to date," Whitworth previously told WFAA. "Avoid any contact with people who have cough, runny nose, red eyes, or a rash. Avoid all ill contacts."

The measles outbreak in Texas is a call to action for all of us to reaffirm our commitment to public health. By working together -- parents, healthcare providers, community leaders, and government officials, we can prevent future outbreaks and protect the health of our nation.…

— Secretary Kennedy (@SecKennedy) March 2, 2025

boognish_bear said:

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The measles outbreak in Texas is a call to action for all of us to reaffirm our commitment to public health. By working together -- parents, healthcare providers, community leaders, and government officials, we can prevent future outbreaks and protect the health of our nation.…

— Secretary Kennedy (@SecKennedy) March 2, 2025

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weird, thought he was a crazy anti vaxer

4th and Inches said:

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boognish_bear said:

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The measles outbreak in Texas is a call to action for all of us to reaffirm our commitment to public health. By working together -- parents, healthcare providers, community leaders, and government officials, we can prevent future outbreaks and protect the health of our nation.…

— Secretary Kennedy (@SecKennedy) March 2, 2025

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weird, thought he was a crazy anti vaxer

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Get with the program, clearly he's anti-vax because he didn't threaten everyone and recommend that anyone who doesn't get the vax should be fired and remain unemployable.