April 2nd Reciprocal Tariffs

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ScottS
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Reciprocal tariffs on countries charging US 'tremendously high' from April 2: Donald Trump | World News - Hindustan Times

Trump to add tariffs to any country charging us tariffs. We will charge them what they charge us.
ScottS
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BTW, Trump was smart for adding reciprocal to this discussing. Far too often, the narrative is simply on the amount the US is changing another country rather than what that country is charging us. Basically you get media freak out to the former and by adding the reciprocal part it shines a light on the entire process.
J.R.
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just stupid and foolish. All you Trumpians want prices to increase. It is painfully simple. Tariffs are a tax on the consumer, period. Yall can rationalize any way you want. Bad for Mercans. He will blink again. He's getting a ton of heat.
muddybrazos
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J.R. said:

just stupid and foolish. All you Trumpians want prices to increase. It is painfully simple. Tariffs are a tax on the consumer, period. Yall can rationalize any way you want. Bad for Mercans. He will blink again. He's getting a ton of heat.
What if we dont buy much of anything foreign? I buy beef from America, bourbon from Kentucky, wine from Cali and Oregon, gas from circle k, shrimp from the shrimp boat in my town etc. I do buy avocados from costco but have not seen the prices go up on them.

Also, what if all this tariff stuf is just a bluff from Trump to get a conession before the tariffs take effect?
KaiBear
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If tariffs are bad; other countries wouldn't be employing them against the United States.

Time to give them a taste of what they have been doing to us for decades.
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J.R. said:

just stupid and foolish. All you Trumpians want prices to increase. It is painfully simple. Tariffs are a tax on the consumer, period. Yall can rationalize any way you want. Bad for Mercans. He will blink again. He's getting a ton of heat.
First, don't call me stupid. I am a Baylor grad. Next, don't think for me. Nobody wants prices to increase.
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J.R. said:

just stupid and foolish. All you Trumpians want prices to increase. It is painfully simple. Tariffs are a tax on the consumer, period. Yall can rationalize any way you want. Bad for Mercans. He will blink again. He's getting a ton of heat.
If you were POTUS, what would be your plan to get prices down?
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Doc Holliday said:

J.R. said:

just stupid and foolish. All you Trumpians want prices to increase. It is painfully simple. Tariffs are a tax on the consumer, period. Yall can rationalize any way you want. Bad for Mercans. He will blink again. He's getting a ton of heat.
If you were POTUS, what would be your plan to get prices down?

Democrats only plan is simply to oppose Trump.
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Doc Holliday said:

J.R. said:

just stupid and foolish. All you Trumpians want prices to increase. It is painfully simple. Tariffs are a tax on the consumer, period. Yall can rationalize any way you want. Bad for Mercans. He will blink again. He's getting a ton of heat.
If you were POTUS, what would be your plan to get prices down?
Free trade. Every country can produce what they are good at. Why should I be forced to buy a more expensive and inferior product to support an inferior business model? Other countries can produce some things cheaper and better because they are not weighed down by unions. Why should American companies improve their wares when they know Americans will be forced to buy them? Competition is a good thing. So is freedom. If you want to buy American than by all means buy only American products. The best lumber for housing comes from Canada. The colder the climate the harder the wood. Today we are building houses with American wood. They will last half as long as houses built with Canadian wood. Right now America has a 14.5% tariff on Canadian wood. Trump wants to add another 25% tariff. So houses will be built with softer shorter lasting American wood. We are shooting ourselves in the foot. Competition and freedom. If you cant grow lettuce as cheap and good as Mexico grow something else. Stop asking for tariffs to make your inferior product competitive. Freedom. America used to be one of highest ranked free countries in the world. We are now tied at 17th place for freedom of countries around the world. Economic freedom ranking is 26th in the world. And yall are crying for tighter restrictions and higher taxes.
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

Doc Holliday said:

J.R. said:

just stupid and foolish. All you Trumpians want prices to increase. It is painfully simple. Tariffs are a tax on the consumer, period. Yall can rationalize any way you want. Bad for Mercans. He will blink again. He's getting a ton of heat.
If you were POTUS, what would be your plan to get prices down?
Free trade. Every country can produce what they are good at. Why should I be forced to buy a more expensive and inferior product to support an inferior business model? Other countries can produce some things cheaper and better because they are not weighed down by unions. Why should American companies improve their wares when they know Americans will be forced to buy them? Competition is a good thing. So is freedom. If you want to buy American than by all means buy only American products. The best lumber for housing comes from Canada. The colder the climate the harder the wood. Today we are building houses with American wood. They will last half as long as houses built with Canadian wood. Right now America has a 14.5% tariff on Canadian wood. Trump wants to add another 25% tariff. So houses will be built with softer shorter lasting American wood. We are shooting ourselves in the foot. Competition and freedom. If you cant grow lettuce as cheap and good as Mexico grow something else. Stop asking for tariffs to make your inferior product competitive. Freedom. America used to be one of highest ranked free countries in the world. We are now tied at 17th place for freedom of countries around the world. Economic freedom ranking is 26th in the world. And yall are crying for tighter restrictions and higher taxes.

You can talk free trade all you want but you know many countries charge us a tariff. You gonna try to get that removed? Which seems like Trump's goal btw.
KaiBear
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Some folks only think about themselves.

Tariffs are employed by other countries against the corporations and farmers of the United States.

As a result the industries in those other countries flourish while our people struggle.

With tariffs we will eventually have a healthier economy with more jobs for US citizens.

But some folks aren't willing to help their fellow Americans if it costs them even 35 cents more.
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You cant tell other countries what to charge. Scott, if the store down the road tries to sell you an inferior or too expensive product dont you just go somewhere else? Freedom is a wonderful thing. If you want to pay thousands of dollars extra for an American car then do it!! We cant control other countries but the market can.

Did you ever look up the Smoot Hawley tariff that plunged us into the Great Depression?
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

You cant tell other countries what to charge. Scott, if the store down the road tries to sell you an inferior or too expensive product dont you just go somewhere else? Freedom is a wonderful thing. If you want to pay thousands of dollars extra for an American car then do it!! We cant control other countries but the market can.

Did you ever look up the Smoot Howley tariff that plunged us into the Great Depression?

But you are the free trade person. How do you get to free trade when they aren't engaging in free trade? Trump is adding the reciprocal part to get them to remove theirs.
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Freedom. Why dont you just pay .70 cents extra to make up for the people that only care for themselves.
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

Freedom. Why dont you just pay .70 cents extra to make up for the people that only care for themselves.

We will see April 2nd. We'll see who caves in advance.
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I'm good with incentives that drive production to the US.

I'm good with tariffs that are avoidable and/or reciprocal.

Free trade rarely exists. All the usual gripers know this. But they've been programmed since birth to accept the globalists agenda.

Last, we have standards that other countries don't. American workers shouldnt have to compete against slave labor. These other countries need to be similarly minded to have "free trade" access to our market.

Thee tinfoil hat couch-potato prognosticator, not a bible school preacher.


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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

Freedom. Why dont you just pay .70 cents extra to make up for the people that only care for themselves.
PS. The current tariff on cars coming into America is around 3000.
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TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

I'm good with incentives that drive production to the US.

I'm good with tariffs that are avoidable and/or reciprocal.

Free trade rarely exists. All the usual gripers know this. But they've been programmed since birth to accept the globalists agenda.

Last, we have standards that other countries don't. American workers shouldnt have to compete against slave labor. These other countries need to be similarly minded to have "free trade" access to our marke


What countries that import goods to the US use "slave labor"?

What is this "globalist agenda" you speak of?

Are you saying other countries have to think like us before we engage in trade?

What incentives do manufactures get when the serve a captive set of buyers? Does a 3000 tariff on Mazdas spur Ford into making a better car? How? They can keep on making a car thats worth less and charge more. Seems like the opposite to me.

Should American consumers have the freedom to buy the car of their choice or be forced into supporting union bosses? I am old enough tp remember when unions controlling the market was a democrat idea.
J.R.
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muddybrazos said:

J.R. said:

just stupid and foolish. All you Trumpians want prices to increase. It is painfully simple. Tariffs are a tax on the consumer, period. Yall can rationalize any way you want. Bad for Mercans. He will blink again. He's getting a ton of heat.
What if we dont buy much of anything foreign? I buy beef from America, bourbon from Kentucky, wine from Cali and Oregon, gas from circle k, shrimp from the shrimp boat in my town etc. I do buy avocados from costco but have not seen the prices go up on them.

Also, what if all this tariff stuf is just a bluff from Trump to get a conession before the tariffs take effect?
I'd be all for it if all products were local and available which they aren't . I'm a big locolvoire. Loves me a great farmers market in the summer, but they are dissapearing, at least in Dallas. Used to love going every weekend and getting my Lemley tomatoes, Freestone peaches ect. I get local meat from my cows and goats. Never buy farmed raised fish of any kind. Shrimp from Vietnam? No thanks. Prefer seasonal seafood from the gulf of merca. Local cheese ect.

As far as wine is concerned, that is a different animal. Much prefer Bordeau and Burgs to most all cali wine. Do like stuff from Oregon as it is a cooler climate. Really hard to find fruit and veg in winter from the US. I'm ok with Mexico as it is close.
J.R.
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Doc Holliday said:

J.R. said:

just stupid and foolish. All you Trumpians want prices to increase. It is painfully simple. Tariffs are a tax on the consumer, period. Yall can rationalize any way you want. Bad for Mercans. He will blink again. He's getting a ton of heat.
If you were POTUS, what would be your plan to get prices down?
get the budget under control and stop with a Trillion in interest. It is simply supply and demand. Fortunately, I didn't make outlandish claims relative to that as that isn't my area of expertise.
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ScottS said:

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

You cant tell other countries what to charge. Scott, if the store down the road tries to sell you an inferior or too expensive product dont you just go somewhere else? Freedom is a wonderful thing. If you want to pay thousands of dollars extra for an American car then do it!! We cant control other countries but the market can.

Did you ever look up the Smoot Howley tariff that plunged us into the Great Depression?

But you are the free trade person. How do you get to free trade when they aren't engaging in free trade? Trump is adding the reciprocal part to get them to remove theirs.


Exactly

But some folks would rather save 35 cents than support working Americans.

And no amount of facts will alter such a mindset.
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I don't think my God sees a working American any different than a working Canadian or a working Mexican. Just my thoughts. Maybe your God does. I grew up in a Baptist church. Maybe Catholics teach differently
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

I don't think my God sees a working American any different than a working Canadian or a working Mexican. Just my thoughts. Maybe your God does. I grew up in a Baptist church. Maybe Catholics teach differently

Not sure who your God is. If it is the God of Christianity, there is little evidence you follow him or listen to what he says, based on your many years of posting history. Who knows, maybe you've made your God up?

FYI, growing up Baptist doesn't make one Christian.
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Do you think God cares much about Americans, or Mexicans, or Canadians? I never thought He cared much about different races or nationalities.

Sometimes I question the way some humans treat other humans.

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If God cared about Mexicans he would have woke them up from their nap before Sam Houston ambushed them.
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And if he loved Texans He would have intervened at the Alamo.
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

And if he loved Texans He would have intervened at the Alamo.


Red and yellow, black and white they are precious in His sight. That is why you have to pay one-sided tariffs… [sing along with the tune]
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

Do you think God cares much about Americans, or Mexicans, or Canadians? I never thought He cared much about different races or nationalities.

Sometimes I question the way some humans treat other humans.


"I never thought" lol. We know.

Clearly, you didn't think. So what would make you believe that? The Bible is full of him directing nations.

Additionally, the Bible is clear that borders mattered, and the type of people you allow into your assembly is of vital importance.
Thee tinfoil hat couch-potato prognosticator, not a bible school preacher.


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KaiBear said:

If tariffs are bad; other countries wouldn't be employing them against the United States.

Time to give them a taste of what they have been doing to us for decades.

Bingo. Only a dumbass would disagree with you on this.
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whiterock said:

KaiBear said:

If tariffs are bad; other countries wouldn't be employing them against the United States.

Time to give them a taste of what they have been doing to us for decades.

Bingo. Only a dumbass would disagree with you on this.
Reagan was a dumbass.
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

whiterock said:

KaiBear said:

If tariffs are bad; other countries wouldn't be employing them against the United States.

Time to give them a taste of what they have been doing to us for decades.

Bingo. Only a dumbass would disagree with you on this.
Reagan was a dumbass.
Reagan was an actor.
ScottS
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Limited,
Do you think the United States should drop all tariffs even if other countries are using them against us? Would you view a 1 sided tariff arrangement as "free trade"?
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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

And if he loved Texans He would have intervened at the Alamo.
If you paid attention to your history, you would know that every single native Texan that died at the Alamo was Hispanic. Guess God hates Catholics?
"The two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why." — Mark Twain
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I have explained 100 times. Apparently I am a dumbass for agreeing with Reagan. A tariff is just a tax to manipulate what we buy or can afford.. Harley Davidson almost went bankrupt. To protect them a special tariff waa put on all motorcycles over 750cc. They tried to make big Honda Yamaha etc big bikes more expensive so people would buy HD.

This helped HD sell more bikes. It hurt the consumer. Why can't consumers buy the product they choose at market value? This tariff only helped the iHD union workers.

A tariff is a tax. Instead of supporting over priced inferior products let Americans choose for themselves.

These people that support tariffs just just overpay. If you feel sorry for a company just send them a little money. Think of it as a personal tariff to help America.
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