nein51 said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Breaking: There is no longer a "likelihood" of a recession; it's either coming or here, according to CEO and investors I speak to. Here's their logic: Companies clearly cut back on spending in run-up to the tariff war. When it hit, they went into full retrenchment mode. Now amid…

— Charles Gasparino (@CGasparino) April 13, 2025

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More unintended consequences.

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That's factually inaccurate. Recession was coming one way or the other.

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Bull *****

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boognish_bear said:

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Breaking: There is no longer a "likelihood" of a recession; it's either coming or here, according to CEO and investors I speak to. Here's their logic: Companies clearly cut back on spending in run-up to the tariff war. When it hit, they went into full retrenchment mode. Now amid…

— Charles Gasparino (@CGasparino) April 13, 2025

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More unintended consequences.

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That's factually inaccurate. Recession was coming one way or the other.

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It absolutely wasn't coming. A lot of people are still gambling on it not coming even with all this **** Trump stirred up. We were in a position to get our dependency off of China but instead we got a trade war with our allies

Mothra said:

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nein51 said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Breaking: There is no longer a "likelihood" of a recession; it's either coming or here, according to CEO and investors I speak to. Here's their logic: Companies clearly cut back on spending in run-up to the tariff war. When it hit, they went into full retrenchment mode. Now amid…

— Charles Gasparino (@CGasparino) April 13, 2025

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More unintended consequences.

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That's factually inaccurate. Recession was coming one way or the other.

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Nobody said it wasn't. But some things can help speed it along.

You clearly didn't understand what I was referencing.

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Most people with a brain said it wasn't.

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BREAKING: The White House has said that 130 countries are currently in negotiations for new trade agreements with the United States.

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) April 15, 2025

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Now they have to finish them. Getting them to the table is great, now "Finish". What is the outcome of these deals? How are we better off based on them? What protections to IP are in place now? How about some answers, not just sound bite tweets.

Will they tell us as they finish them up? I am talking the big boys, not Madagascar Vanilla...

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I think the time frame I heard was these should be done in the next 3 months. I'm with you in that the sooner the better.

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Even if you are Trump's biggest fan, and if you believe in the need for economic realignment or stronger trade enforcement, can any of you not at least acknowledge the erratic, unpredictable nature of these efforts? The harm inflicted on bond markets and borrowing costs? The arbitrary picking of tariff winners and losers? The economic volatility being stoked without any clear roadmap for resolution?

Businesses, the same ones we want to invest, hire, and build in America, aren't operating in a vacuum. They're operating in a climate where their supply chains are and will continue to be disrupted or taxed on a whim, where trade policy shifts overnight, and where geopolitics is being used like a reality show plot twist. How exactly are companies supposed to plan multi-year investments, expand production, or hire workers in that environment? We've already seen them hesitate or delay precisely because of this unpredictability. And the much touted "Trillions of investment in the U.S." being paraded on the talk shows? No one is putting pen to paper on those plans until this is settled.

What continues to amaze me in this conversation is the sheer number of contradictions embedded in this approach. Contradictions that aren't just theoretical, but they break down in the real world.

We're told tariffs will both raise revenue to offset income tax cuts and drive down imports. But basic economics says you can't have both. If tariffs "work", and consumers stop buying foreign goods, then the tax revenue dries up. And if consumers don't stop buying foreign goods, you're simply raising their cost of living to fund government spending. Not to mention how this conflict plays out with shifting manufacturing. That's not strategy, that's regressive taxation dressed in a populist flag.

We're told we want foreign companies to build here, but depending on who's speaking for Trumpworld, that's either a brilliant win for American jobs or somehow proof that foreign influence is invading domestic industry. Which is it?

Strong economies don't thrive on improvisation. They thrive on stability. And what we're experiencing right now isn't a strategy designed to strengthen the U.S. economy for the next generation. It's a political tactic designed to win a news cycle. And there's a world of difference between the two.

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Trump doesnt care about the politics, the news cycle or anything in that realm. He's actually trying to save us from what Joe Biden did to this country. We were about to go into bankruptcy and needed a major reset.Trump is exactly where he needs to be at exactly the right time

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How can anyone possibly be so ignorant and misinformed?

Porteroso said:

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Assassin said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Even if you are Trump's biggest fan, and if you believe in the need for economic realignment or stronger trade enforcement, can any of you not at least acknowledge the erratic, unpredictable nature of these efforts? The harm inflicted on bond markets and borrowing costs? The arbitrary picking of tariff winners and losers? The economic volatility being stoked without any clear roadmap for resolution?

Businesses, the same ones we want to invest, hire, and build in America, aren't operating in a vacuum. They're operating in a climate where their supply chains are and will continue to be disrupted or taxed on a whim, where trade policy shifts overnight, and where geopolitics is being used like a reality show plot twist. How exactly are companies supposed to plan multi-year investments, expand production, or hire workers in that environment? We've already seen them hesitate or delay precisely because of this unpredictability. And the much touted "Trillions of investment in the U.S." being paraded on the talk shows? No one is putting pen to paper on those plans until this is settled.

What continues to amaze me in this conversation is the sheer number of contradictions embedded in this approach. Contradictions that aren't just theoretical, but they break down in the real world.

We're told tariffs will both raise revenue to offset income tax cuts and drive down imports. But basic economics says you can't have both. If tariffs "work", and consumers stop buying foreign goods, then the tax revenue dries up. And if consumers don't stop buying foreign goods, you're simply raising their cost of living to fund government spending. Not to mention how this conflict plays out with shifting manufacturing. That's not strategy, that's regressive taxation dressed in a populist flag.

We're told we want foreign companies to build here, but depending on who's speaking for Trumpworld, that's either a brilliant win for American jobs or somehow proof that foreign influence is invading domestic industry. Which is it?

Strong economies don't thrive on improvisation. They thrive on stability. And what we're experiencing right now isn't a strategy designed to strengthen the U.S. economy for the next generation. It's a political tactic designed to win a news cycle. And there's a world of difference between the two.

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Trump doesnt care about the politics, the news cycle or anything in that realm. He's actually trying to save us from what Joe Biden did to this country. We were about to go into bankruptcy and needed a major reset.Trump is exactly where he needs to be at exactly the right time

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How can anyone possibly be so ignorant and misinformed?

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Trump doesnt care about politics. Hw does not go after perceived political enemies. You havent heard him say anything bad about dems have you?. He rises above the common rabble and treats everyone with respect. No silly name calling for him.

boognish_bear said:

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BREAKING: The White House has said that 130 countries are currently in negotiations for new trade agreements with the United States.

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) April 15, 2025

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Hooey

Porteroso said:

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Assassin said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Even if you are Trump's biggest fan, and if you believe in the need for economic realignment or stronger trade enforcement, can any of you not at least acknowledge the erratic, unpredictable nature of these efforts? The harm inflicted on bond markets and borrowing costs? The arbitrary picking of tariff winners and losers? The economic volatility being stoked without any clear roadmap for resolution?

Businesses, the same ones we want to invest, hire, and build in America, aren't operating in a vacuum. They're operating in a climate where their supply chains are and will continue to be disrupted or taxed on a whim, where trade policy shifts overnight, and where geopolitics is being used like a reality show plot twist. How exactly are companies supposed to plan multi-year investments, expand production, or hire workers in that environment? We've already seen them hesitate or delay precisely because of this unpredictability. And the much touted "Trillions of investment in the U.S." being paraded on the talk shows? No one is putting pen to paper on those plans until this is settled.

What continues to amaze me in this conversation is the sheer number of contradictions embedded in this approach. Contradictions that aren't just theoretical, but they break down in the real world.

We're told tariffs will both raise revenue to offset income tax cuts and drive down imports. But basic economics says you can't have both. If tariffs "work", and consumers stop buying foreign goods, then the tax revenue dries up. And if consumers don't stop buying foreign goods, you're simply raising their cost of living to fund government spending. Not to mention how this conflict plays out with shifting manufacturing. That's not strategy, that's regressive taxation dressed in a populist flag.

We're told we want foreign companies to build here, but depending on who's speaking for Trumpworld, that's either a brilliant win for American jobs or somehow proof that foreign influence is invading domestic industry. Which is it?

Strong economies don't thrive on improvisation. They thrive on stability. And what we're experiencing right now isn't a strategy designed to strengthen the U.S. economy for the next generation. It's a political tactic designed to win a news cycle. And there's a world of difference between the two.

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Trump doesnt care about the politics, the news cycle or anything in that realm. He's actually trying to save us from what Joe Biden did to this country. We were about to go into bankruptcy and needed a major reset.Trump is exactly where he needs to be at exactly the right time

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How can anyone possibly be so ignorant and misinformed?

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I don't know.

Possibly their spouse and / or parents pay their bills ?

ron.reagan said:

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nein51 said:

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Mothra said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Breaking: There is no longer a "likelihood" of a recession; it's either coming or here, according to CEO and investors I speak to. Here's their logic: Companies clearly cut back on spending in run-up to the tariff war. When it hit, they went into full retrenchment mode. Now amid…

— Charles Gasparino (@CGasparino) April 13, 2025

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More unintended consequences.

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That's factually inaccurate. Recession was coming one way or the other.

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It absolutely wasn't coming. A lot of people are still gambling on it not coming even with all this **** Trump stirred up. We were in a position to get our dependency off of China but instead we got a trade war with our allies

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Tariffs have replaced Climate Change in 2025 as the "new" creative way for our government to separate people from their hard earned money. Sadly, most Americans don't even understand. Thank you Sir! May I have another?

Gotta give him credit. Donald Trump is quite the salesmen.

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ron.reagan said:

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nein51 said:

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Mothra said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Breaking: There is no longer a "likelihood" of a recession; it's either coming or here, according to CEO and investors I speak to. Here's their logic: Companies clearly cut back on spending in run-up to the tariff war. When it hit, they went into full retrenchment mode. Now amid…

— Charles Gasparino (@CGasparino) April 13, 2025

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More unintended consequences.

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That's factually inaccurate. Recession was coming one way or the other.

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It absolutely wasn't coming. A lot of people are still gambling on it not coming even with all this **** Trump stirred up. We were in a position to get our dependency off of China but instead we got a trade war with our allies

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Tariffs have replaced Climate Change in 2025 as the "new" creative way for our government to separate people from their hard earned money. Sadly, most Americans don't even understand. Thank you Sir! May I have another?

Gotta give him credit. Donald Trump is quite the salesmen.

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Imagine creating a new GI Joe toy. You get it designed, marketed, sold in US stores. You have US lawyers doing the paper work. You pay US logistic companies to move it around the country. You pay US marketers, US website designers etc... You pay china 50 cents per toy to manufacture and sell it for $25. We are throwing away the $24.50 to try to give a US company the chance to compete with the slave labor 50 cent part.

Shopping centers are filled with these small business niche creators that now have to pay for $120K for a $50K shipment they ordered last week. It's going to be devastating.

ron.reagan said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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ron.reagan said:

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nein51 said:

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Mothra said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Breaking: There is no longer a "likelihood" of a recession; it's either coming or here, according to CEO and investors I speak to. Here's their logic: Companies clearly cut back on spending in run-up to the tariff war. When it hit, they went into full retrenchment mode. Now amid…

— Charles Gasparino (@CGasparino) April 13, 2025

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More unintended consequences.

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That's factually inaccurate. Recession was coming one way or the other.

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It absolutely wasn't coming. A lot of people are still gambling on it not coming even with all this **** Trump stirred up. We were in a position to get our dependency off of China but instead we got a trade war with our allies

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Tariffs have replaced Climate Change in 2025 as the "new" creative way for our government to separate people from their hard earned money. Sadly, most Americans don't even understand. Thank you Sir! May I have another?

Gotta give him credit. Donald Trump is quite the salesmen.

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Imagine creating a new GI Joe toy. You get it designed, marketed, sold in US stores. You have US lawyers doing the paper work. You pay US logistic companies to move it around the country. You pay US marketers, US website designers etc... You pay china 50 cents per toy to manufacture and sell it for $25. We are throwing away the $24.50 to try to give a US company the chance to compete with the slave labor 50 cent part.

Shopping centers are filled with these small business niche creators that now have to pay for $120K for a $50K shipment they ordered last week. It's going to be devastating.

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Will Trump tariff more the GI Joe with the Kung Fu grip?

Good post Ronnie. Call it a tax and the people are outraged. Call it a tariff and they will gladly empty their pockets. SMMFH!!!

ron.reagan said:

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nein51 said:

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Mothra said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Breaking: There is no longer a "likelihood" of a recession; it's either coming or here, according to CEO and investors I speak to. Here's their logic: Companies clearly cut back on spending in run-up to the tariff war. When it hit, they went into full retrenchment mode. Now amid…

— Charles Gasparino (@CGasparino) April 13, 2025

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More unintended consequences.

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That's factually inaccurate. Recession was coming one way or the other.

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It absolutely wasn't coming. A lot of people are still gambling on it not coming even with all this **** Trump stirred up. We were in a position to get our dependency off of China but instead we got a trade war with our allies

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Bull***** All indications were that recession was coming.

Also, Trump definitely sped it up.

All you Democrats have been making so much noise in your rants, have to say you are probably about 80% of the way in convincing ... yourselves.

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All you Democrats have been making so much noise in your rants, have to say you are probably about 80% of the way in convincing ... yourselves.

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Like most democratic policies the one that Trump picked is dug up from the Nancy Pelosi archive to garner the support of losers with nothing to lose

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Oldbear83 said:

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All you Democrats have been making so much noise in your rants, have to say you are probably about 80% of the way in convincing ... yourselves.

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Like most democratic policies the one that Trump picked is dug up from the Nancy Pelosi archive to garner the support of losers with nothing to lose

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So working class blue collar people are losers?

And your type wonders why the Bush faction of Republicans are loathed dinosaurs.
Go back to your overpriced and overcooked chicken lunch at your bleeding membership country club.

JUST IN: 🇺🇸🇨🇳 White House says President Trump is open to negotiating a trade deal with China.

— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) April 15, 2025

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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ron.reagan said:

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ron.reagan said:

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nein51 said:

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Mothra said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Breaking: There is no longer a "likelihood" of a recession; it's either coming or here, according to CEO and investors I speak to. Here's their logic: Companies clearly cut back on spending in run-up to the tariff war. When it hit, they went into full retrenchment mode. Now amid…

— Charles Gasparino (@CGasparino) April 13, 2025

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More unintended consequences.

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That's factually inaccurate. Recession was coming one way or the other.

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It absolutely wasn't coming. A lot of people are still gambling on it not coming even with all this **** Trump stirred up. We were in a position to get our dependency off of China but instead we got a trade war with our allies

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Tariffs have replaced Climate Change in 2025 as the "new" creative way for our government to separate people from their hard earned money. Sadly, most Americans don't even understand. Thank you Sir! May I have another?

Gotta give him credit. Donald Trump is quite the salesmen.

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Imagine creating a new GI Joe toy. You get it designed, marketed, sold in US stores. You have US lawyers doing the paper work. You pay US logistic companies to move it around the country. You pay US marketers, US website designers etc... You pay china 50 cents per toy to manufacture and sell it for $25. We are throwing away the $24.50 to try to give a US company the chance to compete with the slave labor 50 cent part.

Shopping centers are filled with these small business niche creators that now have to pay for $120K for a $50K shipment they ordered last week. It's going to be devastating.

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Will Trump tariff more the GI Joe with the Kung Fu grip?

Good post Ronnie. Call it a tax and the people are outraged. Call it a tariff and they will gladly empty their pockets. SMMFH!!!

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That is where he will draw the line... Enough is enough. China, we will exempt all electronics. Cars, they deserve an exemption. GI JOe, no way. We have to get tough... Even if it puts that business in bankruptcy.

What a joke. The only ones hurt by this is going to be the normal working guy. Anyone that just goes to work and earns a paycheck will be crushed.

Adriacus Peratuun said:

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ron.reagan said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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All you Democrats have been making so much noise in your rants, have to say you are probably about 80% of the way in convincing ... yourselves.

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Like most democratic policies the one that Trump picked is dug up from the Nancy Pelosi archive to garner the support of losers with nothing to lose

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So working class blue collar people are losers?

And your type wonders why the Bush faction of Republicans are loathed dinosaurs.
Go back to your overpriced and overcooked chicken lunch at your bleeding membership country club.

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Only the ones asking government to create a job for them and asking everyone else to pay for it. Applies to white collar, bureaucrats, and others of the same ilk.

Tariffs working great. NVDIA takes a $5B charge to to Chinese tariffs. Stock getting hammered and costing folks a lot of money! Penalizing one of our very best and ground breaking companies and technologies.Way to go fat man.

Relax, FLBear, you'll still be able to add to your My Little Pony collection.

J.R. said:

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Tariffs working great. NVDIA takes a $5B charge to to Chinese tariffs. Stock getting hammered and costing folks a lot of money! Penalizing one of our very best and ground breaking companies and technologies.Way to go fat man.

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BREAKING: Nvidia, $NVDA, says the US government has banned them from selling H20 chips to China "for the indefinite future."

Nvidia says this will come with a $5.5 billion charge to Q1 earnings.

The stock is down over -5% on the news. pic.twitter.com/SZwoytMjn5

— The Kobeissi Letter (@KobeissiLetter) April 15, 2025

[NEWS] President Trump just signaled a possible softening on auto tariffs:

In a White House meeting Monday, he told reporters he might “help some of the car companies” with tariffs because they “need a little bit of time” to shift parts production to the U.S.

While there’s no…

— Car Dealership Guy (@GuyDealership) April 15, 2025

Dear President Trump, @realDonaldTrump

I am the founder of a clothing brand called CUTS. We are a bootstrapped business that has been around for eight years and are a true example of living the American dream. We’ve built this business to millions of dollars in revenue over the…

— Steven Borrelli (@stevenborrelli) April 15, 2025

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Relax, FLBear, you'll still be able to add to your My Little Pony collection.

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Yeah, maybe someday I can be a tough guy like you and root for policies that screw normal working people to go under.

Lecture anyone today on how they made poor financial decisions as their power is being turned off? Or lost their retirement? I am sure they would appreciate someone with your toughness and manliness to tell them what they did wrong. True MAGA style.

Well maybe one day you can go a day without pissing yourself.

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Well maybe one day you can go a day without pissing yourself.

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Huh? Come on. You can do better than that. I come here for sophisticated MAGA banter. Piss yourself? That is it. If you are not going to even try, I will f-ck with Married or Wang... Masters celebration, you get a Mulligan.

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Well maybe one day you can go a day without pissing yourself.

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Huh? Come on. You can do better than that. I come here for sophisticated MAGA banter. Piss yourself? That is it. If you are not going to even try, I will f-ck with Married or Wang... Masters celebration, you get a Mulligan.

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Sorry FLBear, your stuff is always the same. You lie about wanting Trump to succeed, then take every opportunity to go after him, and you have yet to offer a clear alternative to stop the obscene spending, solve the tax mess, or cut significantly into the federal debt.

There is a distinctly urinal quality to your posts viz a viz politics.

For any male who attended a game at Baylor's old FB stadium, urinal discussion triggers bad memories.

Please desist.

Adriacus Peratuun said:

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For any male who attended a game at Baylor's old FB stadium, urinal discussion triggers bad memories.

Please desist.

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Didn't remember that place, but yeah, it was like biowarfare just taking a leak mid-game.

JUST IN: 🇭🇰🇺🇸 Hong Kong suspends postal service for all goods being sent to the US.

— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) April 16, 2025

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For any male who attended a game at Baylor's old FB stadium, urinal discussion triggers bad memories.

Please desist.

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Start at the 2 minute mark

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JUST IN: 🇭🇰🇺🇸 Hong Kong suspends postal service for all goods being sent to the US.

— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) April 16, 2025

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First real blow of the tariff war waged by the United States against the entire world. Completely suspending postal services is quite a big deal. If China does as well, trade with China will grind to a halt. I wonder how many American businesses would go bankrupt? Trump better stop putting off deals.

Adriacus Peratuun said:

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For any male who attended a game at Baylor's old FB stadium, urinal discussion triggers bad memories.

Please desist.

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"the troughs"

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JUST IN: 🇭🇰🇺🇸 Hong Kong suspends postal service for all goods being sent to the US.

— Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru) April 16, 2025

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First real blow of the tariff war waged by the United States against the entire world. Completely suspending postal services is quite a big deal. If China does as well, trade with China will grind to a halt. I wonder how many American businesses would go bankrupt? Trump better stop putting off deals.

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Didn't the tariff war actually start when the other countries first put the tariffs on us? Please advise.

The troughs were a perfect depiction of efficiency. I did not have to wait in line. I do now. I blame all you sissies.